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Eliee
02-24-2007, 08:00 AM
hi, could any one please tell if it is possible to solo my lvl41 whm anywere:rolleyes: my sub job is lvl 20 blm, thanks

Mog
02-24-2007, 08:07 AM
hi, could any one please tell if it is possible to solo my lvl41 whm anywere:rolleyes: my sub job is lvl 20 blm, thanks

No. Why would you want to anyways? WHMs are needed in every xp party.

Eliee
02-24-2007, 08:09 AM
thanks, but i do have to wait sometimes along time for partys,:)

Mog
02-24-2007, 08:11 AM
thanks, but i do have to wait sometimes along time for partys,:)

The most you could do is easy prey, and even that's difficult by yourself. Save yourself the headache (and lost xp) and farm instead, while you wait for a party. :p

Eliee
02-24-2007, 08:14 AM
ok, thanks for advice:)

Murphie
02-24-2007, 10:03 AM
You can kill EP very slowly. I've done it several times on both my old WHM and on my WHM SJ on Murphie. It's painfully slow, but possible at that level.

Just be sure to invest in a Holy Breastplate, a nice Hammer of some sort (your AF Weapon works), and be sure to keep Stoneskin up on yourself at all times, while also keeping Paralyze, Slow, Dia 2 and other enfeebles up on the mob you're fighting.

Easier with your NPC companion (slightly) so if you haven't unlocked that yet, now would be a good time.

Illuen
02-24-2007, 11:15 AM
IIWY, and you're interested in soloing as WHM, I'd definitely look into leveling NIN. With WHM/NIN, dual wielding Hammers, and keeping Utsu and Stoneskin up, you should be able to take on EPs, depending on luck. I'd also bring a NPC buddy out.

It is all about your gear, in the end. Get a set of good DEF gear (Holy Breastplate, DEF/VIT rings, at 50 Phalanx Rings, Look into your RSE, Tarutaru have some rather good pieces for this) and this can become a good/fun way to skill up while waiting for a party. Just do not believe that you'll ever be able to solo for experience.

Jugil
02-26-2007, 05:04 AM
Also, if you have BST leveled to the same level as your WHM, you can solo pretty effectively [T/EM/DC's] as WHM/BST (e.g. your BST must be 41, or pretty close for this to work effectively).

Darkages
02-26-2007, 05:34 AM
hummm yes i hate partying with my whm im level 48 whm now and most my partys SUCK!!! no one can tank worth crap the hate goes every which way and then someone ends up dieing and down time and then get 300 more exp and then someone else dies and repeat i just stoped leveling it and now leveling drg which can solo but kinda hard

IfritnoItazura
02-26-2007, 05:58 AM
Solo'ing may be difficult without already having a BST 41 or higher under your belt to enable WHM/BST play. How about duo'ing or trio'ing instead? I've duo'ed as WHM/NIN with a BST/NIN friend around Lv.40(?) or so.

Find a friend or two with jobs near your level, and see if you can figure out some workable strategies to take down T or even VT monsters.

Mog
02-26-2007, 09:32 AM
You can kill EP very slowly. I've done it several times on both my old WHM and on my WHM SJ on Murphie. It's painfully slow, but possible at that level.

Just be sure to invest in a Holy Breastplate, a nice Hammer of some sort (your AF Weapon works), and be sure to keep Stoneskin up on yourself at all times, while also keeping Paralyze, Slow, Dia 2 and other enfeebles up on the mob you're fighting.

Easier with your NPC companion (slightly) so if you haven't unlocked that yet, now would be a good time.

Even if you do have an NPC for support, the xp will be even more less than it would be if you were soloing EP. It's just not worth it IMO.

Sodo_Leviathan
02-26-2007, 11:46 AM
yea like these people are saying either group, skill up, farm, or solo with your best gear. also find monsters that are weak (worms, bees, the one bat not 3,ect)also get refresh gear/drink it will help keep up Mp and I advise that if you lose more than 1k exp just stop doing it that day and work on your stratgies! Good luck!

Murphie
02-26-2007, 02:47 PM
Even if you do have an NPC for support, the xp will be even more less than it would be if you were soloing EP. It's just not worth it IMO.Eh, that NPC has to level at some point.

IfritnoItazura
02-26-2007, 03:31 PM
The wording ("even more less"?!) is a bit confusing, but maybe Mog is referring to the 30% cut to the player's exp when killing monsters with fellowship NPC out.

Murphie
02-26-2007, 03:33 PM
I know what he was referring to. Yeah, the NPC takes some of your exp, but it's better than dying and losing even more.

Raydeus
02-26-2007, 03:51 PM
About NPC.

It really depends on a number of factors, in my case having my NPC out more than makes up for the xp loss. I'd say I make around 50%ish more XP most of the times, in some cases more than that.

But it all depends on your job, your NPC's job, player skill, the mobs you are fighting, the SC you have set up, your lvl, etc. etc. etc.

One thing I'd suggest is having all the advanced jobs for your NPC before using it for xp, the starting jobs suck for most aplications, but the advanced jobs work pretty good. :thumbsup:

And you gotta pick a job/weapon combo for your NPC that matches your playstyle and the situation if you want it to work. Using your NPC without thinking about all these stuff will more likely than not just gimp your XP and increase downtime.

Murphie
02-26-2007, 04:00 PM
About NPC.

It really depends on a number of factors, in my case having my NPC out more than makes up for the xp loss. I'd say I make around 50%ish more XP most of the times, in some cases more than that.

But it all depends on your job, your NPC's job, player skill, the mobs you are fighting, the SC you have set up, your lvl, etc. etc. etc.

One thing I'd suggest is having all the advanced jobs for your NPC before using it for xp, the starting jobs suck for most aplications, but the advanced jobs work pretty good. :thumbsup:

And you gotta pick a job/weapon combo for your NPC that matches your playstyle and the situation if you want it to work. Using your NPC without thinking about all these stuff will more likely than not just gimp your XP and increase downtime.Exactly.

Eliee
02-26-2007, 11:07 PM
Hi everyone, thanks for your comments:love: and id also like to say what a great site this is, very friendly people, and great infermation on here:)

Darkages
02-27-2007, 05:41 AM
friendly....psshhh

Sabaron
02-27-2007, 10:47 AM
WHM soloing at 41, I'm not sure about because your Stoneskin isn't very powerful yet. WHM soloing is possible at higher levels with /NIN, Dual Wield II, and Utsusemi/Stoneskin. Recommended targets are Undead (Skeleton-type) and Pots.

A long time in WHM terms is probably not as long as you think. On RDM, I consider 20 minutes a long time to wait since I usually get invites within a few minutes of flagging up--before I finish my search comment and sometimes even with my flag off. WHM at 41 is a hot commodity--if you're thinking in terms of long waits for invites, you should try a DD job that's not WAR (since they seem to be all the rage these days). Most DDs are all grouped together for slots in pt, so instead of fighting with just a handful of people, you're fighting amongst all the DDs (WAR, RNG, SAM, MNK, THF are the non-mp-consuming DDs. DRK, BLU, and BLM are the mp-consuming DDs. DRG gets into the first group earlier on, but after 65 gets thrown into a category of it's own with PUP and BST). A DD can wait several hours before an invite, so you really don't have a reason to complain about 20 or even 40 minutes until you've stepped into the shoes of a DD job.

If you just can't find a party, just duo with someone like a NIN. You can tackle tougher mobs in a duo, and make ok XP as opposed to lousy XP soloing. The only jobs that are any good at soloing for XP are the pet jobs and the versatile melee mages BLU and RDM though they are rather lackluster at high levels since their time/xp ratio is pretty bad and in order to maintain their mp pool, they have to fight pretty low-class mobs--sword, even with good skill, is a pretty slow killer.

LyonheartLakshmi
02-27-2007, 11:14 AM
... you should try a DD job that's not WAR (since they seem to be all the rage these days).
LFG can be very, very streaky. Last week, I tried LFG on Thursday night. It me (70 WAR) an hour and a half to get an invite. The real kicker? A BRD in my level range was also seeking, and stayed that way for at least an hour. Strange. Very strange.

Theyaden
02-27-2007, 11:24 AM
hi, could any one please tell if it is possible to solo my lvl41 whm anywere:rolleyes: my sub job is lvl 20 blm, thanks
Once you have stoneskin it is possible to solo ep's, but you have to rest every other one. I killed beetles in ordello's cave with a holy maul and holy breastplate and a circlet that ups evasion (Can't remember the name offhand got it in a windurst quest). I did this to get the keys for my RSE hunt and to skillup club and later staff. I don't advise this for xp as you will wake up screaming from lack of serious xp progress, but it's not bad if your just trying to farm up items where the xp is just a very small bonus.
Here was my spell cycle

Stoneskin, protect, shell depending on target before fight
Cycle Pulling with Slow 1st due to slower casting, paralayze, Dia
Sometimes regen if going badly and timing to get stoneskin back up with less interuptions simular to casting utsemi. Also blink on occasion, when having trouble getting the long casting of stoneskin uninterupted.

I suppose nin sub at a high tool cost could allow you manage without resting after every other fight, but is not cost effective.
Another thing you could do is take a break from whm to let the buildup of healers leveling in your range get ahead of you so their no longer competing for the same pt slot and get your blm up another 5-10 levels or something else if it isn't a blm friendly strech. Maybe even unlock summoner for autorefresh as a sub once your whm hits 50.
Goodluck

Nazo
02-27-2007, 01:02 PM
I'm curious, why do you need bst to be the same level as your main when subbing it? I don't really know anything about beastmaster, this sounds interesting.

Theyaden
03-07-2007, 06:44 PM
I'm curious, why do you need bst to be the same level as your main when subbing it? I don't really know anything about beastmaster, this sounds interesting.

You don't really it's just 40 is where a lot of people like to take subjobs so they'll be usable in up to 40 level caps, BCNM's exc. 37 if your only leveling it to use as a sub, but why not take it 3 levels higher for those caps as long as it's so close.

IfritnoItazura
03-08-2007, 10:36 AM
I'm curious, why do you need bst to be the same level as your main when subbing it? I don't really know anything about beastmaster, this sounds interesting.

There is a theory going around that the success rate of Charm when used from (random job)/BST is dependent on the level of one's BST, capped by the current job.

So, roughly speaking, a WHM41/BST75 can charm nearly as well as BST41/(whatever).

Whether this is true or not at higher levels I cannot say from personal experience, but I have duo'ed BST22/WHM with a WHM22/BST before--the WHM22 was as charming to the critters as my PSE. There are many other people's testimony to effectiveness of this solo'ing method as high level THF/BST, etc., so it's reasonable to assume that (job)/BST works at higher levels.

What is not entirely clear (to me) is that when BST is only half as high as the current job's level (e.g. WHM41/BST20) or otherwise less than current job's level (e.g. WHM41/BST30), would Charm still be usable.

YMMV.

Malevolent
03-08-2007, 11:52 AM
Get yourself a holy breastplate and 2 mauls fill up on some Str food and head out to jungar forest or pashow marshlands with /nin and start farming...you should also get small amounts of XP but not nice or godly amounts...its hard but managable to solo as a whm/nin. I'm not tellin you not to by all means enjoy it i know i do ^^