Garliage Coffer, Half rant, Half...?

[hongman]

I dunno, I guess Im too hightly strung for this game :biggrin:

So I get a random invite from a distant friend in game (as in only met them brielfly), asking if was interested in the Garliage Coffer. Woot! That was my next one. And they had a 75 War/Nin to kill whilst we did support (2 x WHM/BLM, and me)

Spend 4 hours, got 3 Coffer Keys. Sweet.

Go back next day to find the coffer, thought it would be a piece of cake with Sneak/Invis (as it was for Elidieme after I had got the key).

Since then, have had trouble getting even 3 other people together to help Gate Breach. People came and went, lots of deaths (I take no responsibility for - at lvl 39-58 you would think they know how to avoid aggro).

So last night, after the last 2 deaths, I resigned to solo it with nothing but strangers to chance opening Gates. Whilst I am appreciative of people coming along to help, even if we are not 4/4, I am getting sick of people dying and then me having to feel guilty for their deaths. How comes I can manage to not die once? Is it that hard to run to a safe spot to sneak up/invis when you get 3 warnings?

This has got to be one of the worst coffers so far. Last night, I heard of 3 people /sh Woot I found the Coffer! whilst I was sitting behind Gate 1 trying to get through.

So now Im behind Gate 2. Next time I log in, I will get past that. Then Im camping the 4 spawns until I get it.

Half of me is thinking, everyone must have gone through this stage, and the other half of me thinking "I just dont know enough people". Maybe its becuase all my LS's are US? So time zones dont match? I help out eveyone else when I have time, and especially since I started AF and LB to make a point of helping out more.


There are a few things I need from BCNM60's. How am I going to get 2 or 5 other people together for a BCNM60 if I cant even get 3 ANY level people to help with this?

Yes, I know there is shouting in Jeuno/WG. But I like to be doing something - anything - productive with my limited playing time and not have to spend all evening shouting for help.

Boo hoo!

[Kirsteena]

Gate 3 is the better one to sit behind, you have the Sauro zone line closish.

I'm kinda busy Wednesday, got at least 3 Wild Wild Whiskers run, but if you still need by Thursday, should be ok then.

[hongman]

Thanks Kirst.

I am half tempted to go exp without my AF Legs until I know I can get a proper "event" setup. But I'm stubborn.

You know, all 3 Coffers found last night were behind Gate 3. But I thought, as there are 3 points behind Gate 3 and 4 behind Gate 2, I would have more chance at sitting behind Gate 2.

Dont get me wrong, I love a challenge. But being stuck just becuase the zone NEEDS 4 people - thats just frustrating for someone like me. It doesnt matter if you're lvl 1 or 75, still need 4 people to reliably progress through the zone.

I hope after getting the key for Castle Oztroja I can solo the coffer find ><

Hopefully I'll see you in-game Kirst :) I appreciate it.

[Kirsteena]

NP, it won't take long.

I just prefer gate 3, as it is easier to log in safely if you log out there.

[hongman]

I logged out round the corner from Gate 2 on the stairs. Its ok though, if I get aggro, I can still beat the bats down. Or Chainspell + Warp.

If you are definately around Thurs then ll try get a few levels in on Wednesday.

Still poses the questions tho, I need to make some good in-game contacts. Otherwise Im going to be one lonely 75RDM :)

[hongman]

Coffer {Found It!}

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

Gate 2, G-8. {Castle Oztroja} {Yes please}!!

[Visper]

Congrats!! Thats my next coffer for BST, not looking forward to it :/ lol

[Raydeus]

Since Astrals were removed from Castle-O it has become one of the easiest Coffers to get.

Edit > Congrats on Citadel coffer.

[hongman]

2 more baby and I'm on Full AF.

The wierd thing is, and I tested this last night, if I wear all the optimum gear I have for partying, which includes RSE and AF, man I look like a wierdo.

Haha, when I saw the Coffer pop, I was fumbling around so much it took me at lest 3 attempts to open it.

1st attempt it said I had to stand closer
2nd attemp my Inv was full
3rd attempt I traded my Water Staff (???) instead of the key

Ahhh it feels sooo good...I then went on to spend a total of 15-20 mins doing the Olduum quest which allows me to Tele straight to Wajoam Woodlands, since thats where my parties seem to be.

Not looking forward to Castle-O...I hate Yags

[Vyuru]

1st attempt it said I had to stand closer
2nd attemp my Inv was full
3rd attempt I traded my Water Staff (???) instead of the key


I suggest making a macro for opening the chests

/target npc
/item "Name Coffer Key" <t>

targets whatever npc that is in front of you and is closest to you including chests, and uses the coffer key on it. The Name Coffer Key part must be spelled EXACTLY like it is in the inventory. So if it is spelled Garliage Coff. Key the macro becomes:

/target npc
/item "Garliage Coff. Key" <t>

Make sure your inventory has at least one open spot before doing your other AF runs, and beware of competition.

GL with your other coffers, and if you can you might want to do them early, no real sense in waiting if you can get the help you need early, then they are out of the way and you have your gear ahead of time.

EDIT:

Forgot to emphasize, it must be spelled exactly like it is in the inventory, down to the capital letter placement, periods, commas, whatever, I can't stress that enough.

[SharMarali]

I hate the Garliage coffer too. I've had to get it for AF for 3 or 4 different jobs (sorry I lost count lol) and it has sucked every time. Because I have a couple of 75 jobs, I can solo any of the AF coffer keys with no problem. Then, for all areas EXCEPT Garlaige, I can go back with the proper job and sneak and invis around til I find the coffer. I really like being self-sufficient when it comes to AF, especially since I have 4 jobs with full AF that are *not* level 75 because I can't seem to find another job I've enjoyed playing as much as the two I DO have at 75, and so I really feel like it would be asking too much of people to keep helping me get AF for a job I might get bored of and stop playing. (Fortunately, when you already have two level 75 jobs, you have some freedom to bumble around and quit jobs in the 60's and even 70's lol)

That Garlaige coffer though, there's just no getting around it, you have to either get people to help you or stand outside the gates for, literally, HOURS hoping somebody else comes along and opens it. And if they do, you can bet they're looking for the coffer too, so you'll be standing around some more waiting for it to repop and hoping it repops on the side you happen to be on. Honestly I don't know why SE made that coffer so irritating.

[hongman]

I hope BLM and NIN are not there for AF.

I bet they are though.

[Mhurron]

I hope BLM and NIN are not there for AF.
I bet they are though.
I know BLM has AF in both Garliage and the Necropolis, don't know anything about NIN.

[Kirsteena]

Nin is SSG, Ifrit's and Kuftal iirc.

Blm is Eldieme, Garliage and Davoi. However, blm hands are Garliage, so you can actually trigger it on blm, and because it is a quest item, pop it on rdm. That is how I did it.

I have had 3 Garliage so far. Sucks. Next job is smn, so Torblahblah Canal, Uggy Temple, and SSG FUN.

[Raydeus]

EDIT:

Forgot to emphasize, it must be spelled exactly like it is in the inventory, down to the capital letter placement, periods, commas, whatever, I can't stress that enough.

What he said. :thumbsup:

The easiest way is using the Autotranslated word as in "<insert autotranslated stuff>", those " " are important if the name has more than one word.

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Garlaige is hands down the worst zone in the game. I can understand the way SE designed Eldieme -- grab a friend, and two people working together can reach every coffer spawn point. But Garlaige is just pure torture. I wish SE would consider reducing the requirements for opening each gate to something like 2-out-of-4 or even 3-out-of-4 pressure plates being pressed.

I had to get Garlaige coffer for BST AF not long ago. I had to suffer through working together with 3 strangers to get past Gate #3, having everyone wipe, and barely pulling off Reraising and surviving a fight with a nearby Fallen Major. My reward for getting past Gate #3? I had to compete with around a dozen RMT accounts doing their own coffer run. That was not a fun experience.

[hongman]

I had to try and co-ordinate with 3 other JP players on who stands on what plate. In the end I just ran to one and stood on it until they figured the rest out XD

[Murphie]

Every time I'm in Garlaige, there is always that one guy. You know, that guy who doesn't remember how to use the switches. Who never has his own method of sneak/invis, and who wants to go AFK when everyone is just getting into place.

He's the same guy who dies outside the door, and wants everyone else to come back around to raise him.

I hate that guy.

[Mhurron]

Every time I'm in Garlaige, there is always that one guy. You know, that guy who doesn't remember how to use the switches. Who never has his own method of sneak/invis, and who wants to go AFK when everyone is just getting into place.
He's the same guy who dies outside the door, and wants everyone else to come back around to raise him.
I hate that guy.
Dude, I'm sorry :(

[Murphie]

Hate!

[Kirsteena]

Wasn't that me last time? I seem to remember skele aggro....

[Murphie]

No, it wasn't you. I want to say it was Cass. Or Norr.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

BST will be my second (and hopefully last) time I have a coffer in this hellhole of a zone. I also have a CZB coffer (again), which is just as bad.

Could be worse, I guess, I could have temple of ugg or Ifrit's Cauldron again.

[LyonheartLakshmi]

BST will be my second (and hopefully last) time I have a coffer in this hellhole of a zone. I also have a CZB coffer (again), which is just as bad.

Could be worse, I guess, I could have temple of ugg or Ifrit's Cauldron again.
For me, getting the key for Castle Zvahl Coffer was bad. But actually finding the coffer wasn't that big of a deal.

Let me put it to you this way. A PLD friend of mine needed to find his Zvahl coffer at about the same time. He didn't have WHM or RDM leveled to sub. He was dirt poor/cheap, so he wasn't going to be using oils and powders. He'd helped me get my coffer key there, so when he asked me to help sneak/invis him to find the coffer, I decided to do it.

So as a lvl 56ish WAR/WHM, I kept both me and him sneaked and invised around Castle Zvahl Bailey long enough to check pretty much all of the coffer spawn points.

I'll do THAT any day over having to go to Garlaige to find a coffer.

[hongman]

When I'm 75RDM i sure hope I can solo my AF for BLM.

[Kirsteena]

You will be able to do most of it hehehe. I did, only really got help for killing the elemental for my hat, but that was only cause I couldn't be bothered to go change after Manafonting.

[hongman]

Kirst are you free (by any random miracle XD) Saturday by any chance for Castle-O?

[Vyuru]

I dunno, I think Garliage Citadel and Ifrit's Cauldron might be tied for worst coffer spawn points ever.

Ifrit's mostly because unless you want to fight Bombs or Bees with like 3k Final Stings you've got to wait until night falls and bats come out.

I can't say how hard finding the coffer itself is there, I literally stumbled across it like 3 minutes after getting my key, so I got lucky.

P.S

I got my coffer key from a bee, Super Jump > Final Sting =^.^= :D

[Kirsteena]

I'll be honest, I have no idea. I know I have Salvage, Dynamis and prolly HNM camping on Saturday, plus I promised a merit party to a friend, so I dunno...

[LyonheartLakshmi]

I dunno, I think Garliage Citadel and Ifrit's Cauldron might be tied for worst coffer spawn points ever.

Ifrit's mostly because unless you want to fight Bombs or Bees with like 3k Final Stings you've got to wait until night falls and bats come out.

I can't say how hard finding the coffer itself is there, I literally stumbled across it like 3 minutes after getting my key, so I got lucky.

P.S

I got my coffer key from a bee, Super Jump > Final Sting =^.^= :D
I've only helped hunt for an Ifrit's Cauldron Coffer Key once, and it dropped fairly quickly. I wasn't surprised by that, given that you need to loot a coffer there to obtain the map for the zone. In my experiences, coffer keys for zones where the map is obtained from the coffer seem to drop more often than other coffer keys. I don't have any substantial evidence to back this up, though.

[hongman]

How about I book you in advance, say 6 months ahead for my BLM? XD

I have also roped another UK friend into helping, a 75 WAR/NIN that did Eldieme for me, so Im gonna try catch him as well. Shame that progress in this game seems to (at least to me) rely more on how many 75's you know to help out on stuff like AF and LB than anything else :(

[hongman]

Iv never even been to Ifrits??

[Celeal]

Ifrit's Cauldron Coffer Key T_T

The MNK's Temple Crown is in Garliage Coffer too. Recently I am leveling MNK, and trying to get MNK AF. When I tried to start the AF gloves quest for MNK, the NPC won't let me... because I had AF gloves from other job incompleted. The NPC told me to go to Ifrit's Cauldron~

Sigh.. I have to finish NIN AF gloves before I can work on my MNK's AF >.<
Ifrit's Cauldron is going to sux~

My advice is, if you are working on AF for multiple jobs, plan ahead. The order of those quest matters~

[Kirsteena]

Lol sorry, just weekends tend to be quite busy, and we have had shuffles around blah blah blah....

[hongman]

You know I appreciate everything you do, even if you try and cant due to whatever. I cant wait till Im 75, I can start to repay the community XD

[LyonheartLakshmi]

You know I appreciate everything you do, even if you try and cant due to whatever. I cant wait till Im 75, I can start to repay the community XD
You don't have to wait until you hit 75 to help people. I remember helping out newer players when I still only in my mid 30s on my first job. You can help out higher level players by participating in level capped activities. The opportunities are out there.

[Shinhiryu_Kage]

On my previous character, I got WHM AF first thru my LS and an IRL friend. That prepared me for the jobs ahead in the future I would be getting keys and coffers for.

2nd job to 75 was RDM and was able to get help from same LS and IRL friends to get Garlaige Key and Coffer again.

However, after that I got AF on 6 other jobs and I was able to solo all the coffer keys and coffers all by myself...... save the one in Garliage Citadel where I always needed 3 other people.

I have always personally loathed that coffer in Garliage Citdel, simply because, like Murphie said, that -one- guy.

It's that one guy that is the type to ride a bull into a china glass shop and ask "why did everything break?" I just couldn't agree more with this concept lol.

Give me Castle Zhval, Temple of Uggalepih, Ifrit's Cauldron. Hell, give me Beadeaux and the outrageously hard to get to drop coffer key there and the precarious situations of looking for the coffer in such a small space and curse statues ANYDAY. I can deal with all of these situations all by myself, solo on RDM75.

But, my weakness, my achille's heel is that damnable Garlaige Citadel coffer where I am forced to depend on -yahoos.- lol

Hell... I even solo'ed BLM AF Hat by myself.... I'd do that anyday over GC.

Solo'ed BRD AF Ghost in Monastic Cavern. Even cleared out the whole room twice while soloing...... now that was a headache, but I did it.

However, I also tried to solo Chandallier for THF AF hands or w/e and I couldn't kill that thing solo to save my life. He's got alot of HP.

[Omni]

Nin is SSG, Ifrit's and Kuftal iirc.


and the TREE! :)

[Murphie]

and the TREE! :)Well yeah, but it's hardly difficult to get a Tree key. Heck, it's not hard to get a Kuftal key either. I've gotten more of both of these keys (and Quicksand) than I've ever been able to use. Very few folks exp later on in SSG, but that one is (again) not too rough. Ifrits could be a challenge though.

[Alshandra]

Garliage Coffer.... *shudders*
I had five friends with me for this one, so I was lucky, but for two keys and two coffers, it took a total of... *takes a deep breath*... EIGHT HOURS. That was killing mobs for the keys to drop and then camping two coffers... -.-
It was the worst eight hours of my FFXI life, even worse than ZM4 Ifrit's Cauldron, and that was Very Awful.
Great work that you got it though! I haven't had to do a coffer for Castle Oz yet, but that place is in my Top Five Places I Will Usually Need To Be Bribed To Go To...
Ifrit's Cauldron, Mount Zhaylom, Castle Oztroja, Den of Rancour, Labrynth of Onzozo... I think that's my top five currently.
*has vivid flashbacks of mass death and de-levelling*

Good luck in Castle Oz!

[seiyaa]

Garlaige Citadel Coffer is really a pain, I still remember when I'm trying to get my rdm af there, always need help for gate breach, which I hate the most, and all the coffer always swamp point is always behind gate 2 or gate 3.

Well I sort of figure out the best thing to do without gate breach is going through to the past (you need to have the wing of goddess expansion pack), head through gate 3 and camp for them for the coffer to repop. !!!

[Murphie]

Thanks for your timely advice!

[seiyaa]

^^ beside saving the time for gate breach, the percentage for you to get the coffer is much higher as compare to gate 2. ^.~

[Lambeaus]

Thanks for your timely advice! :rofl:

also, to comment on the thoughts made months ago....you don't need level 75 to help.

I had 4 people under 60 get the keys and coffers in Garliage and Ifrits. It was challenging, and really exciting.

[Nuriko]

It gets better ... you can actually avoid the Gate Breach at #2 using the past and some flowers!

Lycopodium (NPC) (http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Lycopodium_%28NPC%29)

[Feenicks]

Old thread is old.

[LyonheartLakshmi]

I feel like SE sorta kinda indirectly fulfilled my request: Could you make Banishing Gates easier to open in Garlaige Citadel? (http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/ask-squareenix-questions/64760-could-you-make-banishing-gates-easier-open-garlaige-citadel.html)

[Feba]

or maybe they just realized that banishing gates were fucking retarded, and it would be one more way to sell an expansion.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I LOVE door puzzles and such (like Necropolis), but Garlaige was just annoying.

[Ameroth]

I mean, don't get me wrong, I LOVE door puzzles and such (like Necropolis), but Garlaige was just annoying.

It's annoying because it's not a puzzle. It's a requirement that you find 3 other people willing to stand in the right spot for a few seconds so you can proceed. Not to mention, it's hard to get help for the gates because most people don't like to waste time unless they have a reason to get behind any of the gates.


go go gadget necro.

[Armando]

Eldieme's door puzzle also sucks because of the same reason as Garlaige's - you can't access the whole place on your own. But at least that one only requires 1 extra person, provided the both of you can navigate the dungeon solo without problems.

inb4mods, etc.

[Feba]

You can do necropolis on your own if your modem is buggy. *cough*

And in any case, I'd like to see more environmental puzzles in FFXI. Less "to make this map seem awesome we made it nearly impossible to navigate lol."

More things like the doors to Toraimorai and Moongate would be neat too (you CAN get in without a pass in certain situations; but you also have the option to get a pass to be able to open it all by yourself, whenever you want.

[Aksannyi]

The thing about Eldieme is that it's easily dual-boxable. I don't always have access to another account (except my own, but the highest level on it is 8) but it's so easy to sit someone at the switch to open and shut the door to your heart's content. And if I really wanted to, I could get a mule there for that exact purpose with enough oils and one powder to get past the bomb.

Garlaige though, you can't dual box that, or quadra box that. I can't even begin to imagine how difficult that would be, especially when you consider gate 3 and the holes nearby. You and a friend could each dual box it, but it still requires a lot more than the Necropolis.

Half the time I don't even take anyone with me to Eldieme, I'll just shout if there's someone in the zone. And if there isn't, then I'll get another character out there.

[Dymlos]

Necro wasn't that bad, but Garliage? Ugh I hated it so much. WTF were SE thinking that I should need people to help me get a coffer! Grabbing coffers should be soloable by one person and not require the use of other people!

[Malacite]

Wings of the Goddess {Please Check It}

[Murphie]

I was hoping someone would mention that Malacite. Thanks for finally helping us all out!