View Full Version : Galkas can do mage jobs you know!!!! <<<rant>>>
Jarre
01-16-2007, 11:33 PM
I got this tell from a lvl 56 RDM/BLM taru..
"WTF you doing as sumoner, Galkas are gimp for mage jobs, your such a noob"
I am gettting sick and tired of the Galka can't be a mage thing. Its all about Mp conservation and good decisions of when and what to cast. I dinged 10 a few nights ago (when there was actually no maintenance!!) with sumoner/whm and got my legionaires staff (mp+6) and two energy earings (mp+3 each) I use pineapple juice i can synth in the field (currently lvl 43 cooking) and ginger cookies while resting. Granted I probably rest more than a taru, but I hit harder with my staff when duoing even matches and toughs with carby therefore I have a higher kill percentage than taru's. it has taken me a total of 3 hours to get to lvl 10 from scratch in East Saratabuta and Taronghi canyon. I have not died once, my extra Hp helps keep me alive so i can take some hate off carby to keep him out longer on tough mobs and I havn't needed to 2 hour.
Why can't people get their heads out of their arses and realise that race is nothing to do with how well you do a job its the player and how they manage the job, mp etc. I am sick and tired of elitist taru's and hume races who think galkas are only good as meat sheilds. I am also a lvl 37 pld and i can out damage and outlast any hume PLD of my level, its all to do with how you manage your races limited abilities, not just be refused an invite because "Galka RDM, Gimp mp, no thanks" (I had that 3 weeks ago when looking for a Qufim party at lvl 19)
I love my character, I love his strength, vitality etc. yes his Mp may be gimped, but with gear and good mp management I can be just as good as any other race.
<<end rant>>
Cometgreen
01-16-2007, 11:37 PM
Tell him tarus are gimp for RDM. That'll show him.
(ignore the idiots of this game, no matter how vocal many of them are)
Jarre
01-16-2007, 11:41 PM
I know comet, just wanted to get it off my chest and persuade other Galkas we can do any job.
Icemage
01-17-2007, 12:12 AM
I love Galkas, but I have to admit it's harder to play Galka mage (same way that it's harder to play Taru tank). You can still succeed at any mage job as Galka, though as with any job that is HP or MP dependent, you'll need to choose your gear pretty carefully.
Galka SMN is probably the least affected by stats, since SMN are unusual in having NO base stat that is helpful to them (STR, DEX, INT, etc.). This leaves their power level to be based on Summoning Magic skill and MP - and as any dedicated mage should know, max MP only matters for one job - Red Mage. As long as your MP recovery is adequate, all mages perform pretty much the same - especially Summoners.
Really the only job where Galka are at a serious disadvantage is RDM at level 40+, due to really inefficient Convert ratios (you can even make up for a lot of that with HP>MP gear, but even all the conversion gear in the game won't quite get you to 1:1 ratio the way other races can manage).
For general XP purposes though, every race can play every job well with appropriate attention paid to gear and food - even Galka RDM.
Icemage
Auron517
01-17-2007, 04:04 AM
Just learn to ignore morons. I'm a Galka Mage who recently took Summoner to Level 37, and I never recieved any complaints. Honestly, this game has been out for so long, and now there are so many Elvaan and Galka Mages, and Taru Meele, that people should know it doesn't matter either way.
You will get players that automatically insult you, and other that make snide little jokes on the side. Ignore them and show what you can do. If you do a good job, they will be suprised and compliment you. To sum it all up, Skill > Race.
Davitron3000
01-17-2007, 04:41 AM
Of course you can do any mage job. In besieged the other night I got in a party that had two Galka whm and it brought tears of joy to my eyes :)
Don't listen to people when they say you can't. Also, if you plan on leveling a mage job to the higher levels, go ahead and "thicken" you skin up some, because I would suspect that you will get more /tells like that throughout your career. (not saying it is right, just saying it will probably happen)
Keep up the good fight.
*gives the secret Galkan handshake*
Kirsteena
01-17-2007, 04:51 AM
One xp party I was with a Galka whm, and he was one of the most efficient whm I have ever xp'ed with - everyone was as close to full hp as necessary, he never came close to running out of mp, always was there with the status spells...
Aeolus
01-17-2007, 05:20 AM
You dont need to tell the people on this forum Galka can play mages, we arnt the dickheads you meet in game :/
Eohmer
01-17-2007, 05:32 AM
Ignore the idiots dude.... hopefully this will make you feel better...
My FAV party of ALL time was with ALL Japanese in Crawler's Nest... I was the only English speaking person, and I was THF...
200-300 XP per battle for a couple hours straight....
The WHM? A Galka! :D He ROCKED!
Truece
01-17-2007, 06:07 AM
not just be refused an invite because "Galka RDM, Gimp mp, no thanks" (I had that 3 weeks ago when looking for a Qufim party at lvl 19)
When I went through the dunes as RDM, I had more HP than the tank and more MP than the SMN :) I ate pies and I've got some MP merits (which help a little), but ultimately you've just gotta prove to those nay-sayers that it can be done very well. Your skill will greatly outshine your race.
For my RDM, though, until I got to 22, I wasn't focusing on the right stuff. I was more worried about MP and found myself getting major resists. I decided to get some +INT gear and became much more efficient and beneficial to my PTs by being able to spend less MP and getting my debuffs to stick sooner.
Playing a Galka mage makes the game challenging and rewarding, so have fun with it!
Haggai
01-17-2007, 06:13 AM
The best White Mage I ever met was a Galka. He ruled. Funny, too... liked to call himself a tarutaru.
We'd say <Impossible to gauge> <Galka> in LS chat. He'd say <Huh?!>, and we'd turn around with <Excuse me...> <Impossible to gauge> <Tarutaru>. What a riot.
Alas, he's not around much anymore.
the best whm i know is a galka
the two best smns both galka
let the idiots run their mouth and just prove that you as a player are much better then the taru mages!
It stands to reason why this tarutaru is a complete moron. I'd be really surprised if he leveled to 75.
n00b elitist. He shamed our Tarutaru population.
n00b elitist. He shamed our Tarutaru population.
He's giving me a bad name! >:O
silentsteel
01-17-2007, 10:03 AM
Not just you but all us taru! We should hunt him down for saying that! >=(
Murphie
01-17-2007, 10:55 AM
He isn't giving me a bad name. I do that well enough on my own. :D
Shinhiryu_Kage
01-17-2007, 11:17 AM
As long as you have enough MP to cover what you need to accomplish and your playstayle, Galka Mage is alot of fun to play. It's fun because its challenging and requires you to stay on your toes. You got to have the right gear and make better decisions on when to use your MP and for what reason. It sometimes calls for a little more micromanagement than you're typical taru mage. [Tarus get to be lazy if they want, not us necessarily lol.]
Anyone who berates you, disdains your playstyle, or calls you names simply based off of prejudicial circumstances..... well, heh, basically they're quite hypocritical. Point being, to make ignorant, illogical assumptions based solely off of skin-deep appearances and call someone a fool for doing something that pertains to the assumptions, when obviously its possible to perform that which you speak of with a little gumption and intuition, is just hypocritical. Its like an idiot calling a smart person dumb for being smart. o.O lol like ok?
With this idea in mind, you can look opposition and adversity straight into the eyes and proclaim, "O death, where is thy sting now?" lol (sorry for the philosophical kick) Ppl (children) are going to point fingers at others and laugh. It's their station in life. Its when you get knocked down a peg or two and brought to your knees (humbled) that usually people grow up. Usually...
Anyway, its good to vent sometimes. But don't worry bro. You definitely are not a wtfomgzr0znoobkthxbai.
GALKA ROOL Ujo00rzorz w
Celeal
01-17-2007, 11:32 AM
An outstanding Galka mage always stand out from the crowd. People will remember you.
Neomage
01-17-2007, 11:50 AM
The interesting thing about playing "abnormal" race/job combinations is you stand out more. If your a Galka Mage and go do an awsome job, you will be noticed more then that other outstanding tarutaru. On the other hand, if you suck, people will think your worse then that equally bad tarutaru. Same with Tarutarus playing Paladin and Elvann playing Dark Knights.
Just don't let it get to you. There are jerks in every game. However, if you get several /tells from diffrent people giving critisism you might want to look at changing some things. That usually means your doing something wrong.
"lolorz galka mhagez are n00bs" is not helpful critisism, so just brush it off. "You really shouldn't sub Warrior when playing Summoner"(Not saying you do) should be considered though. Otherwise you just develop into the dictionary definition of
n00b, and we don't want that =D
Murphie
01-17-2007, 11:56 AM
The interesting thing about playing "abnormal" race/job combinations is you stand out more. If your a Galka Mage and go do an awsome job, you will be noticed more then that other outstanding tarutaru. On the other hand, if you suck, people will think your worse then that equally bad tarutaru. Same with Tarutarus playing Paladin and Elvann playing Dark Knights.
Just don't let it get to you. There are jerks in every game. However, if you get several /tells from diffrent people giving critisism you might want to look at changing some things. That usually means your doing something wrong.
"lolorz galka mhagez are n00bs" is not helpful critisism, so just brush it off. "You really shouldn't sub Warrior when playing Summoner"(Not saying you do) should be considered though. Otherwise you just develop into the dictionary definition of
n00b, and we don't want that =DExactly. You're likely to receive all sorts of comments as you level, and it's a good idea to know which ones you should pay attention to, and which ones you shouldn't.
If you're really good at your job, people are going to remember you. If you're not, then they are going to judge you more harshly. It's unfortunate, but true.
Jarre
01-17-2007, 02:45 PM
"You really shouldn't sub Warrior when playing Summoner"(Not saying you do) should be considered though. Otherwise you just develop into the dictionary definition of
n00b, and we don't want that =D
Nope I sub whm. now at lvl 11 I have legionaires staff (Mp+6), 2x energy earings (Mp+3 each) +1 doublet, +1 gaitors, slacks, Travellers hat, cape +1, Egg (the one that give vit+1 and MP+1%) 2x Saintley rings (Mnd +3), justice badge. I eat ginger cookies to speed up resting and make and drink pineapple juice. I also cancel carby after every mob and recast to help lvl sum magic and use bloodpacts regulary. And no I can't afford 500K each for astral rings!!! at lvl 15 I will use my fasting ring (-20HP, +10 MP) and energy ring (mp+3 lvl 14)
Murphie
01-17-2007, 02:49 PM
I'm sure you'll do just fine.
Tinythor
02-19-2007, 09:10 PM
Dont worry about it, skill is > race.
Besides real tarus play tank! :biggrin:
Telera
02-19-2007, 10:09 PM
the best whm i know is a galka
the two best smns both galka
I'm not a Galka, Boss. :p
j/k ;)
But yeah, you just have to ignore people like that. I've gotten some similar veined comments for being an Elvaan summoner. "You should've rolled Taru, you'd have more MP." :rolleyes: You learn after a while, people like this don't shut up. Best thing to do is show them up. As others have said, the best WHM I ever knew (in party and as a person) was a Galka.
Karinya
02-20-2007, 05:01 AM
I agree with the general point about unusual job/race combos standing out, but... Elvaan DRK? Common as dirt. Tarutaru DRK stand out much more.
Elvaan are pretty common in general, but I think an elvaan BLM or SMN would be unusual enough to be noticed.
Humes, on the other hand, can never stand out from the crowd; they ARE the crowd. Too bad for them.
P.S. I honestly can't advise anyone to take up tanking as a mithra or taru though. Not because they're less effective, but because there is a lot of prejudice. Poorly equipped galka, elvaan and humes will get picked first. People who don't know much about tanking place a very inflated value on maximum HP (it's not really that useful in most situations) and even though mithra have the same HP as humes, we're still not taken seriously as tanks. People get used to galka mages or taru DDs after a bit, but the nontraditional race tank can never escape prejudice.
Kirsteena
02-20-2007, 05:39 AM
Elvaan male blm are 10 a penny, Elvaan females tend to be rdm or bust. Rare to see a smn or a blm Elvaan female.
Was funny though, I sometimes go dynamis as blm - our ls is about speeding and killing as much in dynamis as possible, so we end up with a lot of blm. We were clearing the way to the rdm NM in Dyna-Windy, and both the Elvaan female blm suddenly took EES. Sacrifices helped, whm AF dropped soon after...
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c239/Kirsteena/EES.jpg
hongman
02-20-2007, 06:06 AM
Ouch
Telera
02-20-2007, 06:29 AM
Elvaan are pretty common in general, but I think an elvaan BLM or SMN would be unusual enough to be noticed.
So I got strike one.
Elvaan females tend to be rdm or bust. Rare to see a smn or a blm Elvaan female.
And strike two. Elvaan female who doesn't play Red Mage (not my thing) but Summoner instead. I might try Black Mage someday, but more likely than not, I'll do it on my Taru alt.
Come to think of it, I really haven't seen many fellow Female Elvaan summoners. Humes and Tarus, even a few Galkas. Not often an Elvaan. Though most 'women' in game aren't women anyway. I am, but I never assume any of the others are.
I've gotten noticed a few times, as I said, but its been rare overall. Most people quickly realize I truly don't give a damn about 'tarus have moar mp!!11one'. I was aware of this when I started the game. I was aware that I wanted to be a career summoner from day one. And I picked Elvaan anyway. That boggles some people's minds, but I've never really had MP problems like they must expect I do. Since Summoner doesn't really have a stat that it pulls heavily off of, I just use alot of MP+ accessories, - Perp Cost (staves, Austere), and the like.
Kirsteena
02-20-2007, 06:42 AM
Yeah I get the "why the hell do you want to play an Elvaan mage comment" too much. I manage my mp just fine! I'm probably going to do smn next, glad I am not playing a male character (hi there, I look like I have constapation when casting).
Elvaan females are generally rare tbh, and most are played by women (though a friend of mine who plays an Elvaan female is male himself).
hongman
02-20-2007, 06:44 AM
(hi there, I look like I have constapation when casting)..
Yeah. I cant count the amount of times I have gotten stick about that. I wish they would change it. :cry::biggrin:
Malevolent
02-20-2007, 06:51 AM
Yeah Galka Mages are a lil more difficult to play but thats what makes it so much fun...i stoped for a short time when i was lvlin whm and blm at 10 so i could rock out with dual astrals. Did 3 Petrify pair BCNMS and got both i needed. now my whm is 37 and i just started lvlin blm.
Telera
02-20-2007, 01:47 PM
Yeah I get the "why the hell do you want to play an Elvaan mage comment" too much. I manage my mp just fine! I'm probably going to do smn next, glad I am not playing a male character (hi there, I look like I have constapation when casting).
Elvaan females are generally rare tbh, and most are played by women (though a friend of mine who plays an Elvaan female is male himself).
Even a close friend of mine gets in moods where he tries to lecture me on my race choice. (Funny thing is, he's an Elvaan Red Mage...Figure that if you can.) I've had to get rather abrupt with him a few times, because my more passive comments go unheard and he just keeps nagging until I bust out bitch-mode. Then he generally shuts up and apologizes.
And male Elvaan summon animation is.. yeah, ick. Another friend of mine was showing me some avatars back when I was a starry-eyed newbie, and the first thing I thought when I saw his summoning animation was 'lol..'. I'm sorry, S-E, but that one really doesn't do it for me. The Elvaan female one somehow reminds me of FFX, that little prayer gesture thing they did. I've always liked that because of FFT and FFX being my main drive into taking up Summoner. It's like a little bit of an homage.
You're right about Elvaan women though, if you see one, there's a much higher chance it's actually a woman at the controls than say on a Mithra, or even on a Hume to some extent. Dunno why that is though.
Jrgsubzero
03-05-2007, 08:36 AM
I wish I could play a male Mithra. I don't want to be mistaken for a girl =/
Grizzlebeard
03-05-2007, 08:44 AM
If it's any comfort if I were to play from scratch again I'd play a Galka. I'd take their hit point bonus over their lack of MP any day of the week. You can equip gear to take your MP to a more acceptable level but the raw survivability of the Galka hit points will enable you to survive many more fights than your shorter counterparts.
Theyaden
03-05-2007, 08:47 AM
I'll be honest the worst whm I've ever partied with was a Galka, but it was due to him wanting to melee and not having any gear that added mp to make up for weaknesses. A Galka can be a decient mage you just have to spend a little more on gear at earlier levels and get good at mp conservation faster than the taru. In my opinion the stats may be gimp, but the player gets more skilled as a result of playing behind the 8 ball making a high quality mage or a complete bust depending on your playskill.
In short it was none of the redmages business since he wasn't in your xp party. (Even if he had been one should wait a few battles to see how good you are before passing judgement.)
Shinhiryu_Kage
03-05-2007, 09:23 AM
Went from LV50-70 RDM as Galka in less than a week and a half. That is playing every night straight for 4-6 hours. So much for Galka Mage stigma. :3
I even bypassed ppl in the guild that, when I started and was a newb, are still level 64. LOLdrkdrgftw
Theyaden
03-05-2007, 01:01 PM
The bias is still there but people will overlook it to have a mage in the party. Behold the power of scarce mage jobs ^..^
Gratz on the levels btw
Skylar
03-05-2007, 06:35 PM
If you ever get a /tell like that again , just /tell them back reading "lol gimped closed mind"
Pretty much ends the convo and you're back to being an uber mage kicking ass , waiting for another jealous /tell.
:thumbsup:
Omgwtfbbqkitten
03-05-2007, 06:40 PM
Went from LV50-70 RDM as Galka in less than a week and a half. That is playing every night straight for 4-6 hours. So much for Galka Mage stigma. :3
I even bypassed ppl in the guild that, when I started and was a newb, are still level 64. LOLdrkdrgftw
People would invite a chimp if it has Refresh, sounds mean, but its totally true. Scoff the DRGs and DRKs now, but they'll get to laugh when you ask for help on your 15th testimony, so I suppose it balances out :P Maat has broken the spirit of countless RDMs.
Clever Ninja
03-05-2007, 07:53 PM
I just quit playing my Galka cause I couldn't stand looking at him >_>. Nothing to do with being at a 'disadvantage' at mage jobs(I use that term loosely, I've seen plenty of good galka mages just as I've seen plenty of good Taru melee), but frankly, my Hume's mustache-beard thing is just AWESOME. Nothing beats it ;_;.
Shinhiryu_Kage
03-08-2007, 07:49 AM
People would invite a chimp if it has Refresh, sounds mean, but its totally true. Scoff the DRGs and DRKs now, but they'll get to laugh when you ask for help on your 15th testimony, so I suppose it balances out :P Maat has broken the spirit of countless RDMs.
Your thinking is terribly ridiculous.
While, sure, I can agree that people in general seem to favor inviting any Refresh job they can get their hands on, regardless of race, that doens't negate the fact that that the social stigma surrounding Galka mage jobs still isn't getting overlooked. I'm not sure what your basis for comparison is to offer your statement, and I don't think I'd like to really know. Except...
It still makes the fact of the matter the same, regardless.
If your intentions to disprove a point being made about the social stigma of Galka mage job invites existing because people in general will still invite a Galka if its a RDM for Refresh anyway, then you failed and, infact, proved such point. Because, simply put, in the hypothetical idea of a party leader looking for a refresher and seeing a galka, and trying to determine if he will work, then supposedly one can surmise the person "sees the word galka, thinks about how mp will be low for it and possibly how potentially a bad player is invovled, but invites anyway because it has refresh," then the terms and conditions for Galka Mage anything being overlooked is obviously proved false and the Galka is still invited. lol This helps Galkas in general.
So the original point being made is, its possible to evade the social stigma of Galka Mage jobs by playing a RDM. Which, obviously if I was able to level and gain levels in quite a short amount of time, the stigma obviously gets overlooked, and to our benefit as Galka Mage players.
On a side note, any educated RDM will know that its more than possible if not, easy, to solo your own testimonies as a RDM, without help. If no one is educated, please let it be known, its quite easy to solo them as yourself, without the help of a [insert job here.]
It's sad that Maat has broken the spirit of past RDM's, but.... if you ask my opinion, isn't challenge what we all lust after? Anything less..... well.... does not make sense lol.
Don't quit.
LyonheartLakshmi
03-08-2007, 07:57 AM
Skill > Gear > Race
Next time, respond that they must have picked their race to compensate for their lack of skill and gil.
Omgwtfbbqkitten
03-08-2007, 12:20 PM
If your intentions to disprove a point being made about the social stigma of Galka mage job invites existing because people in general will still invite a Galka if its a RDM for Refresh anyway, then you failed and, infact, proved such point. Because, simply put, in the hypothetical idea of a party leader looking for a refresher and seeing a galka, and trying to determine if he will work, then supposedly one can surmise the person "sees the word galka, thinks about how mp will be low for it and possibly how potentially a bad player is invovled, but invites anyway because it has refresh," then the terms and conditions for Galka Mage anything being overlooked is obviously proved false and the Galka is still invited. lol This helps Galkas in general.
Then why do Galka BRD/WHMs still get invited, or Mithra? By race they're the worst for the jobs, but they get invited anyway. I think you're just a little paranoid.
Additionally, Galka are able to make the largest HP to MP sarifice in the game, to levels that not only scare a Tarutaru, but bring Galka very close to competing with Tarutaru in all mage jobs.
I think you're too worried about the racial stigma held by a handful of players. Fact remains, if you're RDM, WHM, SMN or BLU as Galka, you're hardly suffering for invites, its just that if you're BLM you're boned these days no matter what race you picked.
Tarus have the lowest HP in the game and could be considered the worst potential for PLD, yet they make for the best Paladin race in EXP PTs, they're practically on par with any NIN for tanking in ToA zones if they play it right. Few PLDs of other races have been able to compete with Taru PLDs, but I have met Hume and Galka PLDs that still can.
The stigmas are easy to overcome if you prove yourself in EXP. COR is believed to be one of the slowest pullers in the game, but at merit level I'll give any BRD a run for their money because I know how to apply the tools I have at my disposal.
Its all about skill and knowing how to play to the strengths of your race and your job.
umm this is how i search for a refresher
brd-> (name)-> (lvl)-> (who ever responds first)
if no brd then
rdm- > (name)->(lvl)->(who ever responds first)
personally as Omgwtfbbqkitten said if you were a chimp and u kept my mages refreshed idc your in lol. I always look to see if i know the person first then who lvl is better for my pt then if there is more then one who ever wins the retell battle lol.
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