where to get the ice effect??

[DR2D2]

Can I get the ice effect for the quest to unlock smn from qufim or will I have to goto beceaudine? I would really like to get the ice effect for the ruby without having to death warp. Also, how long do I have to be in the zone for the weather effect to take hold(can I quick enter the zone and then quick zone out or do I have to at least spend some time in the zone?)

[Murphie]

Beaucedine is certainly the easiest way to get it, but you can occasionally get it in Battalia Downs, for instance.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/I_Can_Hear_a_Rainbow

[Neomage]

You need to enter the zone when it is snowing or there is a blizzard. No reason you you to stay in the zone except to wait for it to start snowing if it wasn't when you zoned in. If it starts snowing you must zone back to the pass then back in to get your element.

Their is also about a 0.0000001% chance of snow in Batillia Downs outside of Jeuno, but you have a better chance at getting a Kraken Club. As for the blood warping issue, I assume you have been leveling with signet? Four Words: Scroll of Instant Warp.

[Icemage]

Beaucedine Glacier, Xarcabard, and Uleguerand Range are the only outdoor zones in the game that have regular occurrences of blizzard weather. Batallia Downs has snow, as Onionsoilder mentioned, but it is horribly rare - I think I may have seen snow there twice in over three years of play. Unless you're feeling like you can win a lottery, your only choice is to go to Beaucedine Glacier (since both Xarcabard and Uleguerand connect to Beaucedine via the path on foot).


Icemage

[DR2D2]

I was afraid of that---1 related question what level do I have to be to outpost warp to beaucedine(I have done the supply run but am not sure when I'll be able to warp there--at least it would save the time getting there)----I have an idea(boots for the chocobo--would be cool seeing a chocobo try to navigate the area)

[Mog]

I believe it's level 45, so not for awhile.

[Shinhiryu_Kage]

I was afraid of that---1 related question what level do I have to be to outpost warp to beaucedine(I have done the supply run but am not sure when I'll be able to warp there--at least it would save the time getting there)----I have an idea(boots for the chocobo--would be cool seeing a chocobo try to navigate the area)

I'm not completely sure, but I assume its either 40 or 50, because the mobs in that area are 40+.

You could just bite the bullet and run thru the Ranguemont Pass (fabled location of the old refresh scroll phenomena w) that's located in the north part of East Ronfaure. It takes you directly through to Beaucedine Glacier.

On a sad, side note, I recently did SMN quest and went to BG to get ice weather. Later on, while chasing down thunder weather that same evening, I happened past Batallia Downs, for which much to my dismay, there was ice weather going on in Batallia.

Believe me, I wanted to stick a fork in myself because I was so done w/SMN that night and went and played Super Mario Kart........

[Murphie]

Running through the pass to get to Beacedine isn't really too rough. If you're not a mage, (which I would assume you'd have WHM leveled up if you're going to be leveling SMN, but you never know), then just bring some oil and powder and you're set.

Shouldn't take but a few minutes.

[DR2D2]

I'm actually RDM(that's how I did the supply quest)--The problem is not getting there but getting out of there without getting lost. I can keep sneak/invis up but without an in-game map it's going to be fun keeping track of my position. Last question can I get back through the pass or do I have to find another way out of the Glacer(the last time I was there I got locked into the pass and was told I couldn't go back the same way)?

[DakAttack]

You can have a friend open it for you, but there's no switch on the other side. You can run through Beaucidine to Batallia fairly easily with Sneak and Invis if you have a map with you.

[DR2D2]

I have a printed out 1 but I still have to manually track where I am--It can be done but it will be fun having to watch sneak/invis(as well as my magic points) and track on a printed out map(looks like i'll be having fun). At least I don't think I'll have to escort anyone so I'll only have to pay attention to me aggroing. At least I've been there(so it won't be a totally new place--but still)

[Icemage]

You can have a friend open it for you, but there's no switch on the other side. You can run through Beaucidine to Batallia fairly easily with Sneak and Invis if you have a map with you.
That's not true. You can indeed get back to East Ronfaure from the Beaucedine Glacier side of Ranguemont Pass.

Courtesy of FFXI-Atlas:
http://www.ffxi-atlas.com/maps_normal2/0051_ranguemont-pass.jpg

Note the EXIT ONLY door at E-10. That's how you get back.


Icemage

[Murphie]

Indeed. You just can't go back exactly the way you came in. Your best bet would be to print off a copy of the map, and then just check your POS periodically. But honestly, if you look, it's basically a left at the first intersection (after the door), and then you follow the right hand wall until you're out. So even if you don't have the map, you can remember that.

[DR2D2]

Last night I made it to Beaucedine but when I got there--no snow(clear as day)--my question is if I try to get to around the outpost will I have better luck or will I not have to walk that far to get the effect(do I have to be around the effect, or just in the same zone as the effect?)-

[Icemage]

Last night I made it to Beaucedine but when I got there--no snow(clear as day)--my question is if I try to get to around the outpost will I have better luck or will I not have to walk that far to get the effect(do I have to be around the effect, or just in the same zone as the effect?)-
You have to enter the zone while the weather is in effect.

The best thing to do is stay right at the zoneline - the moment you see the weather change, zone into Ranguemont Pass, then immediately zone back to Beaucedine Glacier and you'll collect your cutscene.


Icemage

[DR2D2]

Ice-- will it be snowing in the cave at the zoneline or will I have to at least go out of the cave at the beginning of the glacer to make sure it is snowing? also how often will the weather change(once every vana day or is it random?)--thanks for the info

[Caspian]

The weather marker will be next to your compass at the bottom left of your screen. If it shows up after you've zoned in, you'll have to zone back out and zone back in for it to count.
Weather seems to be pretty random, but it does seem like you have a higher chance of rain on watersday in some areas, fire on firesday, etc.

EDIT: Think I misread the question, weather can stop and start at random times, not necessarily at midnight and last until the next midnight.

[DR2D2]

Caspian--I was mainly wondering if I goto Beaucedine and don't get the effect how long will I have to wait to try to get it again(as happened to me last night--got to the zone but no snow for the effect)?--is there a set time frame for the weather to change or is it random like in real life?

[Caspian]

Its pretty random from what I've seen. There's times its more likely, but with somewhere like Beaucedine, you stand a really good chance of getting it as soon as you zone in, and if not then, just wait at the zone line for 30 mins. maximum and you should easily have it by then.

[DR2D2]

cool--hopefully I'll be able to do it without aggroing a tiger this time

[Murphie]

I've gotten the Ice Weather via Beacedine at least...god six times or so? It's very rare that you won't get it as soon as you zone in. If you don't, then log back into Rangemont Pass and log back out into the glacier after a minute or so. You have to zone in during the weather to get the effect, so just standing around in the zone won't be enough.

At no point should you have to wander within aggro range of anything. So just stay at the zone line.

[Aksannyi]

One other good way to know in advance so you don't waste your time going out there is talk to one of those weather NPCs scattered about Vana'diel. When it talks about days, of course, they mean in Vana'diel time. They'll tell you that day's weather and the weather for the next three in-game days. Very useful.

I got ice fairly easily. Waiting for fire and thunder was a bit of a pain, however.

[Icemage]

One other good way to know in advance so you don't waste your time going out there is talk to one of those weather NPCs scattered about Vana'diel. When it talks about days, of course, they mean in Vana'diel time. They'll tell you that day's weather and the weather for the next three in-game days. Very useful.

I got ice fairly easily. Waiting for fire and thunder was a bit of a pain, however.
The weather NPCs are pretty inaccurate (just as real weathermen are). They're somewhat handy, but they're also wrong quite often. I used them a lot when I did a lot of fishing, and they'd miss a prediction maybe one time in four.


Icemage

[Aksannyi]

The weather NPCs are pretty inaccurate (just as real weathermen are). They're somewhat handy, but they're also wrong quite often. I used them a lot when I did a lot of fishing, and they'd miss a prediction maybe one time in four.


Icemage
I did not know that. Thanks for pointing that out.