To party or not to party??

[Spiritbear]

I just made bst to 17 last night. I had been soloing in Fort Ghelsba, Giddeus and La Theine Plateau but was not getting that much exp. So I decided to start a pt with a buddy of mine that was a 17 drk. We tried to duo but weren't getting much of anything as far as exp goes. So I formed a pt consisting of 15 Bst (me), 17 drk, 17 bst, 16 pld, 16 whm, 16 nin. We headed to valkrum dunes and each got 2 lvls before we disbanded. All in all it was pretty fun and we did alright on the exp end, nothing lower then 125 while fighting. I was curious if anyone else parties with their bst and how it went?

[Aether]

I started partying at 37, haven't stopped yet (at 66). So I can't really say how it goes at that level, as I solo'd to 37. But i'm sure if you're geared properly you can keep up with the other dds, doesn't necassarily mean you're gonna get the invite rate they do though.

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Pros of partying for exp: safer exp sessions

Cons of partying for exp: don't get the practice of soloing (you can easily get enough practice to be proficient as a DD with half a dozen other jobs); have to split drops with 5 other people

[DR2D2]

I have bst upto 13. The reason why I like bst so much is that it allowes you to level any job solo(just use bst as sub and charm Em to help with toughs). Remember, alot of the higher level things require at least some form of a party so eventually we will all need to be able to party(which using bst gives at-least some form of practice). With my time restrants I feel soloing with bst is a better use of my limited time than trying to find/use a party(except in specific situations)

[Shadowffvi]

I solo'd until about level 15-16, then thats when my Thief character actually started to become useful (ie: with sneak attack), and I've been partying for exp pretty much ever since.

[Sabaron]

I'm not a BST, but I wish more of them would PT every now and again... I fully realize that a good percentage of the BST population chose it for its soloability, but I like seeing them in PT--they parse nicely with their pet.

[Susurrus]

If I see them seeking I invite them sometimes. But I never see them seeking!

[little ninja]

You can tell when the servers are starting to slow down when bst get into parties more an more. I remember alot of threads asking how the invite rates were since the patch where we didnt lose exp for having a call pet, an 9 out of 10 didnt see invites.

Great thing about bst you can seek while you exp. You can duo all the way up to 6 man bst parties. Then you can jump into norm parties.. 7 different forms of pts.. Thats what makes bst so fun..

As for your ??? I did 1 norm pt while i was in the dunes. i think it was arounf lvl 16. That was the only time i was in a normal pt. Otherwise i was soloing or in pts with other bsts. An even then that wasnt til the 60's

[Haggai]

I got to BST20 without any regular exp parties. I had two duo sessions with the same guy out in Buburimu. That was fun. I'd totally PT with my BST, though.

[Kurb]

I'm biased here because of my long line of crap parties so i say no

[XNihili]

If I were to have a decent DD equipment (as I had when I were lower lvl), I would party at any opportunity.
But I have sucky wucky equipment and am too poor to buy these Haubergeon and Maneater stuff, I shy away from them.

As the invite rate of BST is kinda low, I think you'll have plenty opportunity to solo (and learn to die) anyway. Some solo camps are so good it would be a waste not to enjoy them.

[Spiritbear]

I have now been in several pts and I enjoy both pting and soloning on bst. I think the thing I like the best about bst is the fact that I can solo while I'm seeking. Every pt I have been in so far I out dmg the others in the pt by just a little bit, but once I got the Call Beast ability my dmg went up (counting pet dmg). I have only had one bad pt and that happened to be with my best friend, he has been playing the game for about 3 months longer then me and didn't want to believe me when I told him that my jug pet didn't effect pt exp. He said that some 35+ bst told him it did. We argued about it for about 30 min. I then got on my bst ls and asked them to /t him and confirm that I was right. He wasn't to happy about that. Maybe next time he will listen to me when I'm the one playing the job. I have made it a pt to give every job a chance to be in a pt with me, and while I have them in pt I ask then about their job and how it is played so I get at least a basic understanding of what they do so I can set up a pt when I need to and there are only a limited amount of jobs seeking.

[seq]

to be honest, i do party and i do solo.
sometimes soloing for countless hours is boring, so usually i solo half my level and party the other half.
with my DD setup, i parse good and like any other DD with my pet (Sabersiravarde).

[Raydeus]

I think BST can be a good DD and perform other functions in the party so I would be open to party with a BST in a conventional XP party.

Then again I've only duo'd with BSTs, but the experiences have been really fun and productive both XP and skill-wise.

Just one thing, you call me or the party normie and I'll kick you out of it faster than you can say "I'll go back to soloing".

[Spiritbear]

Just one thing, you call me or the party normie and I'll kick you out of it faster than you can say "I'll go back to soloing".

What does that mean??????

[Raydeus]

What does that mean??????

Oh it's because most bitter BST use "normie" in a very despective way, and I don't tolerate that kinda thing. :biggrin:

[IfritnoItazura]

Oh it's because most bitter BST use "normie" in a very despective way, and I don't tolerate that kinda thing. :biggrin:

I don't think either "normie" or "despective" is a real word? >_>

Anyway, if a BST puts up a seek flag, he better have decent DD equipment. Also, I do not invite BST before jug pets--in fact, it's always the first question I ask of a BST who has seek flag up: "Do you have jug pets?"

[Aether]

Oh it's because most bitter BST use "normie" in a very despective way, and I don't tolerate that kinda thing. :biggrin:


Despective? (not a word I believe). If you mean disrespectful? Then I believe what he is asking is what exactly do you mean by normie... or do you mean noobie? iv'e never heard of this and iv'e got 4 75 jobs...

Edit: Ya beat me to it IfritnoItazura =P

[Raydeus]

I don't think either "normie" or "despective" is a real word? >_>

Despective? (not a word I believe). If you mean disrespectful?

Oh ya sorry, I don't know English very well so I use words that don't exist in this particular language at times. :wasted:

I meant contemptous or disparaging.

And normie isn't really a word but many BST use it to refer to conventional parties. :angry:

[Kholdstare]

I have BST at 52, and have since (hopefully temporarily) retired it in favor of BLU.

You want to know what I think? You should party as much as you want, as much as you can, but still learn the ropes of soloing. There will come a time where you just can't exp efficiently anymore. I say, learn to solo, then take any party that will have you. You'll learn to handle sticky situations (i.e. links) and such with efficiency, and if you can't party, you can go solo a little bit.

My personal problem is that a lot of "Solo" BST tend to say "if you party, you're not a real BST," to which I say bull. I'm sorry to say it, but a party where you DD and have to split your drops (oh noes!) yet still get a nice chunk of exp is a lot better than going for hours for meager, yet horribly more dangerous than anything, exp. One death, a lot of times, blows your whole exp session, and you shouldn't be FORCED to do that.

If you want to play BST, you should learn to solo, but when it actually comes to using those soloing skills, you should be doing it by CHOICE, not by FORCE.

[little ninja]

I have BST at 52, and have since (hopefully temporarily) retired it in favor of BLU.
You want to know what I think? You should party as much as you want, as much as you can, but still learn the ropes of soloing. There will come a time where you just can't exp efficiently anymore. I say, learn to solo, then take any party that will have you. You'll learn to handle sticky situations (i.e. links) and such with efficiency, and if you can't party, you can go solo a little bit.
My personal problem is that a lot of "Solo" BST tend to say "if you party, you're not a real BST," to which I say bull. I'm sorry to say it, but a party where you DD and have to split your drops (oh noes!) yet still get a nice chunk of exp is a lot better than going for hours for meager, yet horribly more dangerous than anything, exp. One death, a lot of times, blows your whole exp session, and you shouldn't be FORCED to do that.
If you want to play BST, you should learn to solo, but when it actually comes to using those soloing skills, you should be doing it by CHOICE, not by FORCE.

I soloed 90% of my 1-75 lvls, an you can include all the merits al well. the other 9.5% was in bst only pts. An the other .5% was a lvl or 2 way back in V.D when i waasnt seeking, but the pt needed a 6th member.

I agree. As a bst party when you can. An solo when you cant. Seek to find not only normal parties, But to meet other Bsts. Some of the best exp i had were in Duo an Trio parties. But i beg please dont shy away from playing solo. I have seen some 75 bsts who didnt know how to handle mass links, how to solo Hnms, an Nms becuase they spent most of there bst lives in NORMIE exp parties..

[Knumskull]

I love to party as a bst, but alas i don't have much time to spend online i play solo and don't put up lfg flag. I accept an invite if i get one(which has come mostly from times when i didn't seek a pt).

Bst's are made for party, but with a great soloing ability. And as it is now only blu and sam out pars me in a pt.

[luisa]

well i van say i lvl bst 10-60 in pt and pt only, didnt solo anything after lvl 10. Having a bst in a party does have its award specially after they get the abil leave, thats when any unwanted agro can be charmed and then decharmed to make it despawn and saving the day, but just incase any one doesnt know, if the charmed monster is even match to bstmaster it only affects the beast masters exp, but if its higher it affects the pt exp as well, i might be wrong but thats what i have found out on my own, but any ways i used jug pets and the funguar is pretty awsome and so is the h.q of fly trap, they are bloodthirsty lol, diremite at lvl 42 is not bad, dies too fast but i used the antlion fam alot along with the hq of the tiger back in those lvl, but watch out when it comes to use the pets w.s alot of jug pets have an area of attack and can cause agro, but if that happens let them kill your pet, they will de spawn or leave u alone, as long as the pt doesnt mess with it, i would recomend subbing thf but im currently working on diff sub see wich can be the best at the 60+ lvl fights but once im done with sam ill let you guys know.