Question about the Dark Knight etc.

[Sollet]

I was wondering (I am new here btw, and I have no what so ever knowledge of FFXI in game)

Anyway I was wondering how this whole class thingie works I was thinking of start of as a monk later on take on the quest to become a Dark Knight (Is it possible for a monk to become a dark knight anyway?)....

Another thing I wonder is what happens to the monks skills if I now change into a Dark Knight? Also will I be learning the monks skills even though I've changed into a Dark Knight?

Will Dark Knight now be my "Main class" meaning I can pick a "sub class" later on? I was thinking of a Paladin...

Yet another question; What race is best suited for this combination I had in mind (Monk->DarkKnight/Paladin).

That's all I can think of at the moment... Thanks.

[Chipmunk777]

ill take a stab at it :spin:

you can start as one of 6 jobs (black mage, white mage, red mage, warrior, monk, and theif). You can change between any of these anytime in a Mog House. If you were to start as a Monk, and wanted to become dark knight, you would have to get Monk to level 30, and then do the job for the dark knight (the dark knight quest, you must get any job to level 30, then, if your level 30 job isnt warrior, you must switch to warrior, and kill a certain number of a certain type of monster with a lvl 1 warrior sword. after you complete this quest, you can become a dark knight.) when you change jobs, all the stats and abilities from that job STAY with the job. (EG. if you get a black mage to level 60, then change to a monk, your monk will not have level 60 BLM stats and skills). but, if you change back to the job, the job will have all the same stats and skills it had when you changed.

oh yeah, and at level 18, you can do a quest which allows you to get a sub job, which gives your character the stats and abilities of any job UP TO half of the level of your main job. (EG. you have a level 18 monk, you do the sub job quest, change your main job to warrior, and put your monk as the sub job, your warrior will be lvl 1, and your monk will be level 1. but, if you get your warrior to level 6, your monk sub job will have all stats and skills of a level 3 monk. understand?)

you as a character do not have levels, but the jobs do. so, you only gain skills, stats, etc for the job.

dark knight/paladin is not a good combo. you get a fair character, that wont really be wanted in a party. i suggest being a warrior, get to level 30, then do the dark knight quest, or paladin quest (depending on which you choose), and sub warrior (because the warrior has the Taunt ability, which draws enemies away from casters in the party, and to him, who can take more damage.) this skill is needed in a party. but, in the end, you do what you want, or think is fun.

and, best Tank class (highest defence, pretty good attack) is Galka. best Melee class (Highest attack, pretty good defence) is Elvaan. Dark Knight is more power based than the Paladin (and has some black magic), so an Elvaan dark knight would be best. Paladin is more defence based than Dark knight (and has some white magic), so a Galka would make the best paladin.

I hope i was of assistance, tell me if i was unclear, so i can try to clear it up. :thumbsup:

[Sollet]

Interesting, mind telling me why a Dark Knight / Warrior is a better combo than Dark Knight / Paladin??

I mean the paladin has good DEF (which the Dark Knight lacks) also it can learn white magic and other supportive skill/spells.

[Chipmunk777]

well, paladin/warrior is better than dark knight/warrior, imo, because paladin has higher defence, and with the extra defence, the warrior's taunt ability (which is extremely important in parties) will be able to work better (take more hits, whereas a dark knight would die much faster. dark knights are not meant to be tanks).

and, a dark knight/paladin would not be very good, because:

1. its not THAT needed/wanted in PT's. its more of a solo combo
2. the two stats (STR and DEF) would, in theory, cancel out, giving you mediocre stats in both.
3. I cant think of a three :spin:

the main difference is Taunt. Im not saying you wont get into parties, but im just saying if you're a DRK/PAL, standing next to a PAL/WAR, and theres 1 spot in the party, the leader will choose the PAL/WAR.

i think i explained it. im not too good at explaining tho, so you might want to check around the site (look at Twisted_Jenius's FAQ. its a sticky in the FAQ board. ill get the link for you.)

Here (http://ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2790) is the FAQ. it is very helpful. :thumbsup:

[Sollet]

Hmm okay, so what sub job would you recommend as a dark knight? Dragoon perhaps - Do you know anything about this new class at all? (I am very interested in it)

Another question: Is Warrior the only class that can become dark knight? or can I use a Red Mage? Also is a Red Mage/ Dark Knight combo any good?

[Xellos]

So what your saying is that if I leveled up a monk to level 30, I need to switch to a (level 1) warrior and beat 100 enemies to get dark knight? In that case I'll use the Warrior till I'm level 30 and then switch to a Dark Knight.

[IleDeusMorpheus]

hmm, I see where the confusion is arising here: Dark Knight is the only class-specific job quest. To get Dark Knight, you have to kill 100 fairly difficult enemies in a certain area with a level 1 Warrior sword. Of course, most people cannot accomplish this unless their Warrior is leveled at least above 25. It's theoretically, but not practically, possible to become a DRK without seriously leveling your WAR.

RDM/DRK: Wow! In all my months of learning about this game I have never ever thought of that combo, mostly because RDMs usually sub WHM or BLM for MP purposes ... but wow! That could really work ... because if you have the enchant spells plus the attack power of the Dark Knight, then your melee skills are gonna be good, although your defense will be low, but you can fix that by casting Protect on yourself ... it all seems to balance out ... you could even draw hate from the monster if there are no other DRKs or THFs around ... until somebody proves me horribly wrong (and if you can, please do so, as 'know-it-alls' like myself handing out fallacious info to newbies would be a bad thing indeed), I vote DRK the second best non-mage RDM sub! (the best being THF) :spin: :spin: :spin:

[Sollet]

So you say that the best combo is Dark Knight/Thief?

Is it because the AGL? Please explain.

[Chipmunk777]

well, i suggest (if u wanna use RDM) go DRK/RDM. because of the stuffs that Morpheus said. and, as for the theif sub, thats all a matter of opinion. It sounds really good on paper, but ive heard it cannot be executed well. The theif sub gives higher ACC for the Dark Knight, and allows the DRK to evade more attacks, making it a better tank. and, the theif's abilities with the DRK's power allow for fairly good accuracy, with great damage. but, for some reason, some people seem to think that doesnt work...

[Sollet]

Well let's say I'll go with a thief or a red mage once I reach level 30 which allows me to change job ...

Now I need to change to Warrior to complete that quest right? What happens with my stats and skills when I become a level 1 warrior?

[Hisdon]

wait a fugging minute...I thought you could be a level 30 Warrior and go into a newb area and rape the little monsters untill you get 100 kills, but you say that they need to be fairly difficult but peeps usually do it when they are lvl 25...wouldn't you have a hard time killing them if you where using a lvl 1 sword against lvl 22 monsters?

I have now decided that I shall be a Warrior untill lvl18, then a Thief/Warrior to 30, then a DRK/Thief for the rest of my time. Of corse, that could change when we get more info on Dragoons (which I will have one of as another char...Hume or Mithra, I dunno...)

[Janus Zeal]

Originally posted by Sollet
Well let's say I'll go with a thief or a red mage once I reach level 30 which allows me to change job ...

Now I need to change to Warrior to complete that quest right? What happens with my stats and skills when I become a level 1 warrior?

You can change jobs anytime at your MogHouse. You would only need Level 30 for a job to try Advanced job quests, which means any non-basic job (six basic jobs are: warrior, thief, monk, w mage, b mage, red mage)

Stats are those of the job, not of the character, if you change job you get the stats from your new job, at the level this job is.

Example: I'm a level 50 Dark Knight (support job is irrelevant for example), and I want to change my Main job to Monk instead.

I go to my MogHouse, select Monk, and now I'll be a Monk Level 1 because I didnt level it previously, I'll have stats any level 1 Monk (without sub) of my race would have. I can change it again to Dark Knight and be a Level 50 Dark Knight (with stats from Level 50 DRK as well)