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Spider-Dan
10-30-2006, 06:21 AM
I recently dinged 75COR and I decided to take this time to compile all my logs for an answer to the endless question of "how much does COR cost?" I've also included accuracy numbers just for the sake of reference.

Just for the record, I'm a Mithra COR that's had maxed marksmanship merits during my entire COR career, as well as most of the +RACC gear in the game (I already had a great deal of it for my RNG). Although I have occasionally used other subjobs and eaten a coeurl sub or two, I would say that during the vast majority of my LV22-75 playtime (well over 90% of all kills), I was COR/RNG eating squid sushi. So I think it's pretty fair to say that my accuracy numbers are representative of the high end of COR accuracy.

With that being said:

LV22-40:
Ranged 1940/2512 (77.23%), WS 299/333 (89.79%)

LV40-50:
Ranged 1632/2205 (74.01%), WS 223/264 (84.47%)

LV50-60:
Ranged 2263/2917 (77.58%), WS 291/347 (83.86%)

LV60-67:
Ranged 2097/2485 (84.39%), WS 397/454 (87.44%)

LV67-72:
Ranged 1822/2132 (85.46%), WS 362/429 (84.38%)

LV72-75:
Ranged 946/1099 (86.08%), WS 232/269 (86.24%)

Total:
Ranged 10700/13350 (80.15%), WS 1804/2096 (86.07%)

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Bullets- 5314
@current AH value of 14k/99 = 760,420G

Iron Bullets- 10132
@current AH value of 13k/99 = 1,364,579G

Total ammo cost to 75 = 2,124,999G

Note that the above does not include Barrage or Quick Draw; I'd probably call it an even 2.25m, all told.

Omgwtfbbqkitten
10-30-2006, 11:38 AM
Titan had irons going at 20k a stack for months, but now they're thankfully down to 11k-9k a stack. Maybe the RMT are just skilling on them right now, though the COR population has really dropped on the server as of late, that could be a leading factor as well.

I don't see COR breaking 30 people on /sea these days. I'd say that makes me sad, but, it doesn't, really.

Jei
10-30-2006, 12:00 PM
just hit 48. I think I've spent 12x7 bullet pouches so far... about 12k per 12 if I buy bullets from NPC. A bit cheaper to pick it up from AH at 90k. >_< That's almost a million spent already and I still have a long way to do. Maybe I should start meleeing more. Been shooting at range like exclusively.

tdh
10-30-2006, 12:01 PM
2.25M to go from Lv.22 to Lv.75? That seems pretty low actually, I figured it would be way more expensive than that. Of course these are current prices, and just about ever server's prices have been going down slowly but surely.

How long did it take you to go from Lv.22 to Lv.75?

Spider-Dan
10-30-2006, 01:00 PM
How long did it take you to go from Lv.22 to Lv.75?
Hard to say. I've been leveling COR since TAU came out, but I've had other endgame stuff to do (Dynamis, etc.) and there was a 3-month window from early May to late July where I was working two jobs and didn't have much chance to play.

Jei
11-05-2006, 08:07 AM
iron bullet just shot up to 18k/99 170k/pouches on Titan...
I'm seriously considering /nin to melee for TP now...

TenchiHawkwing
11-05-2006, 09:21 AM
If you're gonna melee for TP stick to /RNG, /NIN won't be any faster as far as TP gain is concerned, only higher DoT... well, before you factor in the Accuracy bonuses from /RNG anyway.

Karinya
11-06-2006, 11:35 AM
Maybe he's considering /NIN for melee to fight things with point blank AOEs like Whirl of Rage? A COR/RNG standing back and shooting won't be hit (unless it does it while you're running up to roll), but a COR/RNG in melee would be hit every time.


Note also that this is not including food cost, and since he's /RNG, there is no shihei cost, so your costs may vary (even aside from the normal market fluctuation). It also doesn't include gear (although that's usually more of an investment than a cost).


I'm a bit surprised to see worse accuracy in the 40s than in the 50s; my experience has been that in general, players have their worst accuracy in the 50s, before they get to the levels where they gain skill quite rapidly and catch up to monster evasion. Why do you think you had more accuracy problems in the 40s? (The large jump in accuracy at 60 is of course not surprising at all, since you were /RNG and gained Accuracy Bonus II, not to mention AF.)

Omgwtfbbqkitten
11-06-2006, 05:34 PM
I'm a bit surprised to see worse accuracy in the 40s than in the 50s; my experience has been that in general, players have their worst accuracy in the 50s, before they get to the levels where they gain skill quite rapidly and catch up to monster evasion. Why do you think you had more accuracy problems in the 40s? (The large jump in accuracy at 60 is of course not surprising at all, since you were /RNG and gained Accuracy Bonus II, not to mention AF.)

B Rating in gun.

CORs accuracy is the dumps pre-30. Not to mention the craptacular copper bullets from levels 15-21. If anyone had problems from 30-50, they weren't wearing either Noct Set (which unfortunately I've seen a lot of from zomgimapirate people). Even without the P Charm at these levels, accuracy was good with noct, Feather Necklace +1 and the respective rings for that level. Subbing /NIN over /RNG would mean losing some accuracy as well, perhaps not too much, but still enough to make a difference. If you're using sushi on COR by 50, hitting shouldn't be a problem at all.

AF works out most of the kinks on accuracy otherewise, then Deadeyes, Precise/Hurling Belt and the like come in to play as well. I'm lucky in that I also have a P Charm I've won from BCNM40, so I hardly miss now, even if I do go /NIN (which I still never do save for CoPs and BCNM).

Jei
11-06-2006, 05:50 PM
I miss my first slug shot :( Slug shot misses almost 50%, not sure. When it misses, it misses 4-5 times in a row. Then I'll hit 4-5 shots in a row too.

I'm 59 now. Hoping the AF Hat will help that a little.

Omgwtfbbqkitten
11-06-2006, 10:30 PM
I miss my first slug shot :( Slug shot misses almost 50%, not sure. When it misses, it misses 4-5 times in a row. Then I'll hit 4-5 shots in a row too.

I'm 59 now. Hoping the AF Hat will help that a little.

What are you wearing/eating?

eva00r
11-07-2006, 12:39 AM
If you don't /NIN, your Slug won't miss so many times. Also, standing at the sweet spot does help.

/RNG with Squid Sushi will give you more than good accuracy.

Jei
11-07-2006, 08:27 AM
60 Cor/Rng.
the +# are RACC.

MAtchlock Gun - no RACC
Head - AF +8
Body - AF +8
Hands - Jahrida +2
Legs - Jahrida +2
Feet - AF +2
Nect - Peacock +10
Back - Nomad's (Amemit+1 soon)
Waist - Gun Belt 5 Gun skill
Ear - Beater's +3
Ring - Scorpion+1 +16

My Slug is really unpredictable. 50% seem about right, it hits and misses about equally...

I eat Sole/Squid Sushi. Both seem to give me equal damage with Slug Shot.

Omgwtfbbqkitten
11-07-2006, 08:52 AM
Well, with gear like that, the only reason I could think of is that you may have been invited to EXP on mobs well ahead of your level or IT++. Its not uncommon for a "refresher" class to be the lowest invited and COR seems to get a lot of invites out of desparation for PTs to have that. That's the only possible reason I can think of.

Even before the P Charm, Deadeye Gloves, Vision Earring and Hurling belt (all recent additions for me at 63), my Slugs landed pretty consistantly and I used sole or squid sushi. I might have missed a few Slugs in a PT pre-update, I only miss one or two tops now in EXP, if at all.

Lmnop
11-07-2006, 01:38 PM
do RNGs/CORs spam Slugshot every 100% these days? Or should a Corsair be waiting a bit longer for some added acc?

Spider-Dan
11-07-2006, 04:32 PM
I'm a bit surprised to see worse accuracy in the 40s than in the 50s; my experience has been that in general, players have their worst accuracy in the 50s, before they get to the levels where they gain skill quite rapidly and catch up to monster evasion. Why do you think you had more accuracy problems in the 40s? (The large jump in accuracy at 60 is of course not surprising at all, since you were /RNG and gained Accuracy Bonus II, not to mention AF.)
I think that's due to a leveling off of bonuses. Remember, COR gets Accuracy Up at 20, Archer's at 28, and Gun Belt/Beater's/Noct at 30... then virtually nothing at all until the 50s, where you get Jaridah and AF.

I don't think it's skill-related, though; my COR had more marksmanship skill than any unmerited DD using their main weapon. B rank skill isn't that big of a factor. Even at 75, my 271 marksmanship skill is better than a natural A- weapon.

As far as slug TP goes, I was firing slugs at around 150% up until the late 60s. I fire slugs at 100% now.

Zempten
12-03-2006, 05:30 PM
Hi, I just hit lvl 22 with my COR and I have a few questions.

1) Where exactly is this sweet spot? I've heard from some that it's right outside of meeling range where it says so and so is too far. However we were fighting Goblins/ Giants in Lower Def. Tower and for some reason it seems to be sorta of where the tip of my gun touches the mob. If someone could give me a good description I'd be very thankful

2) Do CORs like to meele for TP? or is it like a RNG? Which is better in terms of DDing while keeping your rolls up? I'm subbing /RNG for the Accuracy Bonus and sometimes to use Sharpshot as well. I don't think I'll have too much problem with hate.

3) This is a question based on equipment with /RNG. Since I'm /RNG I'm wondering do you guys use anything for your shield slot? Also what should I wear for my other ear? I'm going to use the Beater's Earring for ear2. Rings are ranged accuracy+ of course and I have a set of Noct +1 for when I hit 30 as well. Also after 51, is it okay to use a Vulcan's Staff instead of the Archer's Knife?

Omgwtfbbqkitten
12-07-2006, 02:33 AM
Hi, I just hit lvl 22 with my COR and I have a few questions.

1) Where exactly is this sweet spot? I've heard from some that it's right outside of meeling range where it says so and so is too far. However we were fighting Goblins/ Giants in Lower Def. Tower and for some reason it seems to be sorta of where the tip of my gun touches the mob. If someone could give me a good description I'd be very thankful

It can vary a little depending on the mobs size, but in general you can be in melee range with a gun as of the last update. There are situations, however, you may wish to just shoot outside of AoE range just for the sake of not becoming an MP sponge.

2) Do CORs like to meele for TP? or is it like a RNG? Which is better in terms of DDing while keeping your rolls up? I'm subbing /RNG for the Accuracy Bonus and sometimes to use Sharpshot as well. I don't think I'll have too much problem with hate.

Cheap CORs like to poke the mob with knives and swords to TP, but until you can get a Joyeuse, its not really a good way to go about getting TP. Use the gun and use it as your main means to TP. If you time your shots right you can get in a few swings to grab TP as well. The core of our damage and TP is going to be through the gun and not direct melee combat.

3) This is a question based on equipment with /RNG. Since I'm /RNG I'm wondering do you guys use anything for your shield slot? Also what should I wear for my other ear? I'm going to use the Beater's Earring for ear2. Rings are ranged accuracy+ of course and I have a set of Noct +1 for when I hit 30 as well. Also after 51, is it okay to use a Vulcan's Staff instead of the Archer's Knife?

Before Vision earring, you can use drone earring to cover the other or just stick with drone if you prefer. In fact, you may wish to keep a set of drone's handy for Quick Draw macros now that SE has stated AGI will be a modifier for QD.

As for Fire Staff... its a hard sell for me personally. While COR's B Rating is nothing to be worried about on the damage end in EXP, but with /RNG you're only ever going to get two Ranged Accuracy traits.

RNG has the luxury to shed accuracy gear for attack and STR gear at 70 because they get their last accuaracy bonus trait. Its a lot of Accuracy. I wore my Optical Hat til 73 on RNG and then just stopped using it in EXP. I'm working on my STR/Attack build for RNG right now and I may try some of it when COR gets to that same point, but I'm not getting my hopes up that it will be just as good as RNG.

In your case, I'd just favor accuracy over attack. Remember, COR's not just a DD class, its support, too, and you're going to spend some time on buffs and Quick Draws. Its more important that you're able to make those shots land and do some respectable damage than to try to go all out on the melee end and try to compete with the other DDS. You'll lose out to them eventually.

Zempten
12-08-2006, 07:24 PM
Thanks ^ ^ I appreciate it very much.