Level 51 pld and besiged

[Frazzle]

Are PLDs at level 50ish any good in besiged?
Its my highest job and iv been wanting to try it out for ages
Thanks in advance.

[Icemage]

No more so than a Summoner would be. You won't be able to hit anything, you can't take hits from enemies at that level (well unless you used Invincible), but you could still cast Cures and Raises. That's about it, though.

If you don't fancy being a glorified healer in heavy armor, don't do Besieged on Paladin at that level. :P


Icemage

[Frazzle]

/sigh looks like il have to wait then. Whats a good level to start at?

[Icemage]

/sigh looks like il have to wait then. Whats a good level to start at?
70?


Icemage

[Frazzle]

ah ok thanks for your help i better get back to the level slog then :P

[DrivenTooFar]

Healing is fine especially if you sub White mage for the extras. You can run around healing and if you get hate you can take damage better then a regular healer.

[Icemage]

Healing is fine especially if you sub White mage for the extras. You can run around healing and if you get hate you can take damage better then a regular healer.
Not at level 50 he can't. :P I take way less damage as WHM75 than a level 50 Paladin (unless he has invincible up). More importantly I can cast Reraise and get myself back into action if for some reason I can't shake whatever is hitting me.


Icemage

[Frazzle]

well i suppose i could run in like a brave paladin should then go invincible and run around till some one helps/ i die :P

[TenchiHawkwing]

Don't let anyone tell you that you can't do much in Besieged... hell, I play my cousin's 59PLD when Besieged is up on his server, the only things that hit too hard (outside of special attacks) are the NMs, I swear Medusa hit him for like 450DMG on a regular strike, OUCH.

You should be able to handle just about anything else they throw at you unless you have TONs of hate, which as a Paladin you should know how to manage(It's your job after all!). Also, if you're good at kiting, you can be useful in Besieged at almost any level. Also mentioned you can cure and raise as was said before. Trust me, I'm not talking out of my ass here, this is all stuff that I have done, I'm pretty sure someone more resourceful could think of even more stuff you could do to make yourself useful.

[Aksannyi]

I was always doing Besieged from 50 and up on my RDM, basically healing was all I did, save for the occasional Refresh, of course. Buff up your party with some Protects, cast some cures, and Raise people. And if you die, it's not such a terrible thing because there's no xp loss. Anyone who says it's stupid for you to suck up raises is a jerk, level 75s can suck up as many raises as the rest of us.

My advice is to stay away from the NM and hang outside of AoE range (if you can) and just have fun.

[DrivenTooFar]

Not at level 50 he can't. :P I take way less damage as WHM75 than a level 50 Paladin (unless he has invincible up). More importantly I can cast Reraise and get myself back into action if for some reason I can't shake whatever is hitting me.


Icemage

Hmm... I'm not sure if I was that low when I started Besieged but don't say it can't be done. I do it all the time and if I do get hit I usually dont die. Plus Reraise isn't much of an issue seeing as 5 people are there to raise you when you die.

[Icemage]

Hmm... I'm not sure if I was that low when I started Besieged but don't say it can't be done. I do it all the time and if I do get hit I usually dont die. Plus Reraise isn't much of an issue seeing as 5 people are there to raise you when you die.
I didn't say he couldn't participate. I was taking issue with your assertion that a level 50 PLD will take less damage than a level 75 mage, which just isn't true.


Icemage

[Taskmage]

Unfortunately, melees under level 65 at the very least probably aren't even going to be able to hit the mobs in a level 5 besieged, much less do any damage. As far as tanking, that's certainly out of the question until at least the 70s. I'm not even sure tanking is possible in besieged. Some people just take longer to die than others before the mob moves on to the next target.

[ikkleste]

Unfortunately, melees under level 65 at the very least probably aren't even going to be able to hit the mobs in a level 5 besieged, much less do any damage. As far as tanking, that's certainly out of the question until at least the 70s. I'm not even sure tanking is possible in besieged. Some people just take longer to die than others before the mob moves on to the next target.

could he not participate better in the lower level beseige's?

i don't know much about it all as i'm only just approaching 50 (very slowly), but it's just a thought.

[Haggai]

could he not participate better in the lower level beseige's?

i don't know much about it all as i'm only just approaching 50 (very slowly), but it's just a thought.
Maybe, but all I ever see are Level 5 Besieged.

Basic rule in besieged is if you have at least Cure III and Raise, you are useful.

Last night was pretty fun, though. I was in an Undead Swarm Besieged as BLM63/WHM31 with my WAR62 friend. We were chasing around whacking on Lamia No. 9's elementals. They were the only things we could do damage to! Between the two of us, we eventually took out one of her Ice Elementals. I'd cast the occasional Fire 3 for kicks. I did get some nice Aspirs, though. The funniest thing was that we could whack and whack and the elemental never bothered us much, it just kept following Lamia No. 9 around.

The best part is when you get charmed and you start attacking another person. I just hope I never get attacked by a WAR75 while he's charmed. ><

[Slip]

I've been Besieging from 60 -> 70 Paladin and it's only now at 70 that I'm starting to be able to hit and do damage to things. That said though Cures, Raises and Flashes are still very handy at any level.

Ideally at lower levels you either want to be in a party and/or go find one of the Generals. The Generals can take a lot of punishment but they also collect a truckload of aggro so if there's not a solid healing corp at work on them they'll drop (which is a component of losing the candy). What's especially dangerous is that people can't coordinate their healing well with all the lag so you may have 6 whm's all buffing one general but if they all tap out of mp at the same time you're in trouble.

It sounds like with the update we'll be seeing level 6 Besiege battles too, which I'm guessing will mean more lost Candys and more beseiged battles at different levels (especially since the battle to rescue the Candy is getting much easier as well).

[Celeal]

Not much in melee department (tank or DD) for besiged at level 50. However, battle medic is always useful: Curing and Raise is always needed in Besiged.

A Dark Staff and a mage subjob is nice for PLD at level 50 in Besiged. A nice way to skill up healing magic :D

[Armando]

I agree. Don't stay out of Beseiged just because you're level 50; you can earn full EXP and IS simply by playing ghetto medic. You're still being useful, and you can't turn down free IS, can you?

[Frazzle]

Thanks for the advice all unfortunatley iv not got any mages worth subbing (none above 10 :P) il give it a try next time its on and and might post how it goes. Once again thanks for all the advice.

Frazzle. Ifrit.