View Full Version : what food do i need(lvl 10 partyies)
the_ultimate_shadow
10-04-2006, 11:29 AM
im soon gonna hit 10, and i can finally start doing parties, and i haven't even touched food yet, what kind of food do i need, where can i get it(im in sand doria) and how much will it cost me?
Hantz
10-04-2006, 11:31 AM
Lv. 10? I might be wrong, but I'd just grab some Meat Jerky (http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Meat_Jerky)in town off an NPC and get going. It's not much gil either.
neighbortaru
10-04-2006, 11:46 AM
Meat Jerky is fine for lvl 10. If you are placed in the tank role and find you are talking too much damage, 1) update your armor 2) try some Boiled Crayfish (http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/3741)
btw, here's a generally good food guide:
http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/food.php
the_ultimate_shadow
10-04-2006, 12:03 PM
ok, hm, how much food do i need
neighbortaru
10-04-2006, 12:08 PM
well, one piece usually lasts for 30 minutes. how long do you plan on playing? ;)
Raydeus
10-04-2006, 12:13 PM
well, one piece usually lasts for 30 minutes. how long do you plan on playing? ;)
Or 30 seconds if you get killed right after you ate. :thumbsup:
Or 30 seconds if you get killed right after you ate. :thumbsup:
Let's give the war the benefit of the doubt, Ray. :p
eticket109
10-04-2006, 12:41 PM
Let's give the war the benefit of the doubt, Ray. :p
whether he gets killed that fast or not probably won't be up to him anyway.
If you plan on staying in the dunes for a while Iwould recommend a couple stacks of meat jerky and meat mithkabobs. By the time you burn through the meat jerky you should be nearly to the point where you would use mithkabobs
the_ultimate_shadow
10-04-2006, 12:47 PM
ok, when i look for a party should i stay in sand dora or should i go to the dunes and wait for a party? regardless can i get to the dune from sand doria?
neighbortaru
10-04-2006, 12:58 PM
most people start putting their flag up when they zone into la theine.
and yes, you can get to valkurm from sandy. W Ron -> La Theine -> Valkurm.
Murphie
10-04-2006, 01:00 PM
You can also continue to solo exp in LaTheine or Konschtat while you wait for someone to invite you to group in Valkurm. In fact, that's what I'd recommend. Getting some exp by killing Easy Prey is preferable to standing around and getting no exp. At least for most folks.
eticket109
10-04-2006, 01:00 PM
South SanD'Oria ~> West Rounfare ~> La Thiene Plateau ~> Valkurm Dunes
I would recommend going there to LFG as people will usually take party members with less travel time. You can wait in a number of places.
1) Selbina: nice quaint port town (south center section of the dunes, no mobs at all, lots of quests start here.
2) Just outside of Selbina: With the new anti-mpk patches, its very tough to get aggro here, and people unfamiliar with searching a region will find you easier. (then again, if they are forming a pt and can't '/sea region inv' then you may be better off without them
3) Right by the Dunes zone in La Thiene Plateau: fairly safe but I wouldn't recommend it as you'll have to travel farther to camp most likely
4) Nation flag near Konschat Highlands zone: tougher to get to from San D'Oria but if you're starting at 10 you'll need to level near there anyway.
Raises are few and far between in the dunes. I recommend setting your HP in Selbina unless your nation controls the region and you can set your hp for free at the outpost or nation flag near the Highlands
raidenn
10-04-2006, 01:57 PM
The lake in La Thiene is a good place to solo around level 13-15. Crabs spawn continously.
Just watch out for water elementals and the occasional 2nd tier goblin.
For food, I usually get some selbina milk, its good for soloing. If you have lower level cooking skill - roast corn if you can make it is good too.
Theyaden
10-04-2006, 02:14 PM
If you can get to Bastok I'ld advise using Meat Jerky for Melee characters since it's sold by an NPC (much cheaper than ah) in Bastok Mines at the inn (Top area of the map) much cheaper than the AH. Beef Jerky is like junior meatkabobs which are perfect at the dunes level.
Murphie
10-04-2006, 02:26 PM
If you can get to Bastok I'ld advise using Meat Jerky for Melee characters since it's sold by an NPC (much cheaper than ah) in Bastok Mines at the inn (Top area of the map) much cheaper than the AH. Beef Jerky is like junior meatkabobs which are perfect at the dunes level.Meat Jerky is actually available in all three starting nations. In Windurst you buy it at the Rarab Tail Hostelery (where Chumama is), and in San'doria, you can find it at the hotel in North Sandy.
Rice Dumplings (http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/3942) - STR+3 VIT+2 Atk+20% (Cap: 45@225 Base Attack) Acc+5 , blah blah blah
Jack-o'-Lantern (http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/3893) - Acc+10 Eva+10 CHR-10
Those are other options as well. The Jack-o'-Lantern's CHR-10 isn't too ideal if you're tanking, but the added Acc and Eva is nice if you're a DD. So when you do Provoke, might help you evade one outta 20 hits. lol
Depending on where you're going, and for how long, you'd take varying amounts of food. The dumplings stack, but the Pumpkins do not. So I would take 8-12 Dumplings, and then 2 Pumpkins in that instance. At Lv.61, I bring along at least a full stack of Sushi, and maybe 3 or 4 pieces of attack food.
Armando
10-04-2006, 02:32 PM
Rice Dumplings are expensive, though, and provide a lesser Attack bonus. Jack-o-Lanterns won't help as much as defensive food, or as much as Attack food. Besides, Shield Break is all you need to get rid of the mob's Evasion.
eticket109
10-04-2006, 02:35 PM
Those are good foods but seem a bit extravagant for a level 10 char... especially in a first time dunes party
raidenn
10-04-2006, 02:59 PM
Is there a fire - resistance food?
Celeal
10-04-2006, 03:01 PM
Meat Jerky is more practical for novice players. Expect to die a lot in Dunes for the 1st run.
Heck, even a lot of new player don't use or don't know about effects of food in Dunes for the 1st run.
Mhurron
10-04-2006, 03:26 PM
Rice Dumplings (http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/3942) - STR+3 VIT+2 Atk+20% (Cap: 45@225 Base Attack) Acc+5 , blah blah blah
Jack-o'-Lantern (http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/3893) - Acc+10 Eva+10 CHR-10
Those are other options as well. The Jack-o'-Lantern's CHR-10 isn't too ideal if you're tanking, but the added Acc and Eva is nice if you're a DD. Nothing gives larger ACC before lvl20 for most jobs. CHR- won't do anything unless you're a BRD or BST. Dumplings are far too expensive for a dunes party, first time or 15th time through.
Armando
10-04-2006, 04:15 PM
Oh, yeah, forgot to mention (or reaffirm, in this case) that CHR does nothing for hate. Sorry, there is no fire resistance food. And, again, Shield Break gives Evasion -40, that makes any sort of Accuracy food obsolete as long as you're using Great Axe (and there's no good reason not to use one early on unless you're tanking some overhunted IT mobs...but in that case, it's better to fix a problem than its symptoms.)
Shield Break + Meat > Armor Break + Sushi > Axes :3
Caspian
10-04-2006, 04:30 PM
Oh, yeah, forgot to mention (or reaffirm, in this case) that CHR does nothing for hate. Sorry, there is no fire resistance food. And, again, Shield Break gives Evasion -40, that makes any sort of Accuracy food obsolete as long as you're using Great Axe (and there's no good reason not to use one early on unless you're tanking some overhunted IT mobs...but in that case, it's better to fix a problem than its symptoms.)
Shield Break + Meat > Armor Break + Sushi > Axes :3
Which brings us to the next part of this thread. Are you using a 2 handed axe? I know it gives you a sword when you first start (stupid SE), but I'd make it a point to buy a cheap 2h axe asap and go kill a few mobs outside sandy to get you to your first WS.
You can use axes later (much later), but for now I'd stick with your G.Axe and like Armando said, use Shield break.
I believe a weapons dealer in sandy sells a low level Great Axe for rather cheap. Maybe some kind soul with access can check ffxi.somepage for it.
Armando
10-04-2006, 05:06 PM
The Level 5 Butterfly Axe (http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/375) can be bought in Mhaura, Whitegate, or Bastok. Inferno Axe (http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/377) (Lv.8) is crafted only, so you need to AH it. Greataxe (http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/379) (Lv.12) can be bought in Selbina, Whitegate, or Bastok; Hydro Axe (http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/3826) (Lv.12) is crafted only as well. Moth Axe (http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/381) (Lv.16) is obtained from Horutoto Ruin chests (buy from AH.) Post-20, you can just buy your great axes at the Jeuno AH 99% of the time.
Greataxe and Hydro Axe are basically the same thing, although IF you manage to get Hydro Pumps, I believe Spider-Dan had done some tests and found that the added effect kicks in about 20-25% of the time. He had tested the mid-level Hydro Pumps, which did about 30 damage per proc. I think the lower level ones do about 15-ish.
EDIT: Oh, while we're at it, the reason Shield Break + Meat beats Armor Break + Sushi usually is that -40 Evasion + 25% Attack > -25% Mob Defense + 15% Accuracy. It takes about 270 total skill to get +40 Accuracy, and by the time you can get that much Accuracy, you probably won't be using a Great Axe. Plus, Shield Break helps you land Acid Bolts, which don't stack with Armor Break. However, there ARE reasons to use Armor Break over Shield Break. The first one would be overwrites - most Stat Ups and Stat Downs overwrite each other with equal priority. While Shield Break may overwrite Rhino Guard, Rhino Guard can overwrite Shield Break right back, essentially leading to wasted TP if you get unlucky. Also, because Attack doesn't increase Blue Magic damage, Sushi is the optimal food for BLUs. However, lowering the mob's Defense WILL increase the damage from physical Blue Magic, so Armor Break serves as a double bonus for BLUs. On the other hand, you must remember that Cocoon and the likes overwrite Armor Break, and that Armor Break doesn't stack with Acid Bolts.
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