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the_ultimate_shadow
10-01-2006, 06:56 PM
i just got the game the other day, and im level 6(dropped from 7) and i had full health and fought something that was decent competition, so i should be fine....he DESTROYED me, and i have no abilities that help me...and i heard u have to solo to 13...so the warrior right now...is ALL luck if i win or not, i cant do anything...the only thing i can do has a 2 hour cooldown...am i doing something wrong, im tired of losing hundreds and hundreds of EXP

Theyaden
10-01-2006, 07:03 PM
i just got the game the other day, and im level 6(dropped from 7) and i had full health and fought something that was decent competition, so i should be fine....he DESTROYED me, and i have no abilities that help me...and i heard u have to solo to 13...so the warrior right now...is ALL luck if i win or not, i cant do anything...the only thing i can do has a 2 hour cooldown...am i doing something wrong, im tired of losing hundreds and hundreds of EXP

Actually you can goto the dunes at level 10. My first job was whitemage so I had it a bit easier, but as a warrior you should have no problem getting an invite to tank even with no subjob. I sugest carrying a shield and axe, but if you can afford it also carry a 2handed axe if the pt wants you as a damage dealer instead. set your homepoint on the bastok facing side of the dunes and solo minor stuff with your flag up to pass the time once your tenth level before that Vomp hill and the area below it is excellent for xp. Worms and bee's are usually easier for you to fight try to avoid goblins and quadoff. Also pick up armor pieces for each of your slots even if it's not very good individually and you'll find better luck both solo and pt. No expensive stuff is realy necesary, but having your slots all covered even with cheap stuff makes a huge difference with 1 or 2 defence each.
Welcome to Vandiel!

Note: I'ld use leather gear for the entry to the dunes it's level 7 stuff and very cheap last I checked. If you can't afford it level off bee's and sell the chips for 10-15k for a stack. One stack will probably buy you your leather gear. also check the signet NPC to see if there is any armor available for conquest points although I believe that is level 10. (Been awhile since I picked it up I'm afraid)

Bricklayer
10-01-2006, 07:04 PM
i just got the game the other day, and im level 6(dropped from 7) and i had full health and fought something that was decent competition, so i should be fine....he DESTROYED me, and i have no abilities that help me...and i heard u have to solo to 13...so the warrior right now...is ALL luck if i win or not, i cant do anything...the only thing i can do has a 2 hour cooldown...am i doing something wrong, im tired of losing hundreds and hundreds of EXP

What weapon are you using? Are you keeping your armor updated? Do you have your first weaponskill yet? Are you using it?

One tip: Go get some "meat jerky" and use it before you go fight stuff. It raises your attack by 25% IIRC.

the_ultimate_shadow
10-01-2006, 07:16 PM
i have no money now, i spent it on a shield i can use at level 8, so i can't really upgrade gear, and what do u mean weapon ability....do i have to buy it?

Bricklayer
10-01-2006, 07:20 PM
What weapon are you using? This can affect your ability to hit enemies, because all weapons have a skill cap. Warriors skill is capped highest for Axe and Great Axe.

Weaponskills are abilities you learn naturally when your skill reaches a certain level, e.g. 10, 30, 70, etc. If you are level 6, you should already have your first weaponskill. You can find it under Abilities -> Weapon Skill. When your TP hits 100%, you can use your weaponskill to do more damage than a normal hit (for most weapons).

Nekomieu
10-01-2006, 07:47 PM
Another good tip is to not buy basic armour off the Auction house, but go find a shop that sells it. Go to Deegis armor in Bastok Mines (if you're Bastokian, there are corisponding armor shops in all three nations) you will find that what is sold there is usually much cheaper than what you will find on the AH. Plus, make sure you have an Axe, not sword, Axe is much better for a warrior thanswords are.

Also, don't be afraid to plough through a horde of Easy Prey, instead of one DC, and resting, or even death... I often have spots with sub jobs where I can't take down DC's for love or money, so I plough through every ep I run across, not the most self satisfying, but it gets you there.

the_ultimate_shadow
10-01-2006, 07:50 PM
ok, thanks guys, im a compltee newb at this game, and im not even using the AH yet, someone explained how to use it to me, and its WAY different then im used to, i dont like that its basically a guesing game.... question, what happens if u bid, and find out its under the amount that its selling for(from what ive been explained to they gues the bid, and if they bid high enough the person who had the least bid up gets theirs sold for the ques bid that u put in...)

FFVIIMidgar
10-01-2006, 07:53 PM
As for the weaponskill you can use it when the TP reaches 100% but it's bes tif you wait for the TP to charge up to 300%, it deals an immaculate amount of damage compared to your normal attack.

Bricklayer
10-01-2006, 07:55 PM
ok, thanks guys, im a compltee newb at this game, and im not even using the AH yet, someone explained how to use it to me, and its WAY different then im used to, i dont like that its basically a guesing game.... question, what happens if u bid, and find out its under the amount that its selling for(from what ive been explained to they gues the bid, and if they bid high enough the person who had the least bid up gets theirs sold for the ques bid that u put in...)

I think you've got it right on the AH.

Buyer: Must bid higher than the lowest available price for item.
Seller: Sells if item is lowest price (longest standing at same price?). Sells for the amount bid by the bidder.


You'll probably get a few stacks of crystals by fighting (talk to the gate guard to get Signet cast on you). The economy is in a slight recession, otherwise I would suggest selling your stacks at the AH. Of course, you could sell them now if you wanted. You will probably need the money desperately.

FFVIIMidgar
10-01-2006, 07:56 PM
As for the weaponskill you can use it when the TP reaches 100% but it's best if you wait for the TP to charge up to 300%, it deals an immaculate amount of damage compared to your normal attack.

FFVIIMidgar
10-01-2006, 07:57 PM
Whoops sorry for the double post.

the_ultimate_shadow
10-01-2006, 07:58 PM
signet? i haven't gotten any crystals yet, im kiling stuff outside of sad oria ....or something like that, the elvaan starting place, with worms, rabbits, and orcs

FFVIIMidgar
10-01-2006, 08:01 PM
Get Signet cast on you! You need to talk to a W.W. (if you're from Windurst) a R.K. (if you're from San d'Oria), or an I.M. (if you're from Bastok). Usually it's the guard standing right in front of the entrance to the outskirts of the city.

Bricklayer
10-01-2006, 08:02 PM
As for the weaponskill you can use it when the TP reaches 100% but it's bes tif you wait for the TP to charge up to 300%, it deals an immaculate amount of damage compared to your normal attack.

There's differing opinion on this point...

1) You get TP from your weaponskill, so throwing it the second you hit 100% is more efficient, assuming the amount of damage increase scales appropriately from 100%-300%. If you throw your WS at 100%, you get back roughly 6% TP, and you'll get to your next WS faster.

2) Some WSs* do not increase in damage based on TP used, so you won't see a difference at 100% and 300%.


* If you're using Axe, your damage does increase with TP, IIRC.

FFVIIMidgar
10-01-2006, 08:05 PM
2) Some WSs* do not increase in damage based on TP used, so you won't see a difference at 100% and 300%.


Oh wow I didn't know that.

the_ultimate_shadow
10-01-2006, 08:05 PM
ok...may i ask one thing..can you please not use abbreviations, lol, as i am a newb, i dunno what those abbreviations mean, and what does getting a signet casted on you do?

FFVIIMidgar
10-01-2006, 08:06 PM
ok...may i ask one thing..can you please not use abbreviations, lol, as i am a newb, i dunno what those abbreviations mean, and what does getting a signet casted on you do?

Don't worry, you'll see those abbreviations as part of their name.

FFVIIMidgar
10-01-2006, 08:08 PM
Having Signet cast upon you means you are participating in Conquest for your nation. You are able to get crystals so you can synthesize items (it's primary usage). Also you are able to obtain Conquest Points (CP's) in which you can spend on various things like getting your Empress band charged up (Empress band when used gives you 50% extra experience), or other useful items like warp, auto-raise, etc.

the_ultimate_shadow
10-01-2006, 08:12 PM
ok, so should i synthesize crystals or just sell em, and to get them, i just get a signet put on me, and kill stuff and the crystals will drop off mobs?

Bricklayer
10-01-2006, 08:15 PM
Oh wow I didn't know that.


Dagger Weaponskills (http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/wskills.html?fwsclass=Dagger) (see Wasp Sting (http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/wskills.html?fwskill=31), Shadow Stitch (http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/wskills.html?fwskill=33))

Couldn't find any other examples, but I wouldn't be surprised if Shield Break (Great Axe 10, lowers evasion) were similar.

FFVIIMidgar
10-01-2006, 08:16 PM
ok, so should i synthesize crystals or just sell em, and to get them, i just get a signet put on me, and kill stuff and the crystals will drop off mobs?

You don't synthesize crystals itself, you synthesize with crystals. of course you can sell crystals, either one by one, or in stacks (better to sell in stacks) but usually people do that if they are desperate for money or just want to get rid of their overabundance in crystals. Most people use crystals for synthing things. As synthing things raise your craft points (for whatever kind of item you're synthing - woodworking for example) and also to create things that you can use or to give to others or to sell at the auction houses. Some items you make are so rare that you can sell them for lots of money.

As for Signet, yes if you defeat mobs you are most likely able to get crystals. The kinds of crystals depends on the enemies. Check online to see which crystals drop from which mobs. But make good habit to have Signet cast upon you whenever you can!

FFVIIMidgar
10-01-2006, 08:18 PM
Dagger Weaponskills (http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/wskills.html?fwsclass=Dagger) (see Wasp Sting (http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/wskills.html?fwskill=31), Shadow Stitch (http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/wskills.html?fwskill=33))

Couldn't find any other examples, but I wouldn't be surprised if Shield Break (Great Axe 10, lowers evasion) were similar.

Thank you.

the_ultimate_shadow
10-01-2006, 08:35 PM
ok thanks, u guys are alot of help, im such a newb, lol, when im in town i look like a chicken with my head chopped off

Bricklayer
10-01-2006, 09:20 PM
ok thanks, u guys are alot of help, im such a newb, lol, when im in town i look like a chicken with my head chopped off

I still look that way from time to time. Glad we could help :)

Nekomieu
10-01-2006, 09:55 PM
Don't worry, we were all new once. Knowing you'r in sandy helps, You want to go to Rosel's Armours in South San'doria, you can check the /map for the exact location.

Also, for food you can go to Rambroy's Grocery and buy a couple dried Marjoram, kill some rabbits and orks for Hare meat (rabbits) and Fire Crystals (orks/goblins) in your inventory select to use the crystal, and you will get the synthesys menu, it's like the trade window, only it's for crafting. You then want to put the hare meat, and dried marjoram in the window and select Ok. It's a level 6 synth, so it may fail a few times, but it's: Strength +2, Intelligence -1, Attack +30% Great stuff early on, and cheap and easy to make. Plus when you make it yourself, it tastes much better ;)

the_ultimate_shadow
10-01-2006, 10:25 PM
ok, you lost me...i know about the armor spot, but i have NO idea how any of the synth works...

Bricklayer
10-01-2006, 10:35 PM
ok, you lost me...i know about the armor spot, but i have NO idea how any of the synth works...

Synthesis is when you use the power of a crystal to transform materials into items.

For example, if you go into your items menu, you should see some crystals (Fire Crystal, Earth Crystal, etc.). One of the easiest synths to make is a copper ingot (Fire Crystal + 4 Copper Ores). To do so, select a Fire Crystal, select "Use". A little window will pop up with 8 slots. Put one copper ore in each of 4 slots by selecting a slot, then selecting Copper Ore from your inventory. When you have four copper ores in four slots, select "ok", and your character will begin the synthesis. If you are successful, you will get a copper ingot. If not, you will lose the crystal, and may lose some materials. Another easy one is an Arrowhead Lumber (Wind Crystal + Arrowhead Log). You can get the log from the woodworkers' guild in N. Sandoria.

Hope this helps.

the_ultimate_shadow
10-01-2006, 10:39 PM
definetly, i kind of need detailed explainations like that for most of this game, this game is...complicated, that was perfect thanks brick layer, that makes sense now, i have one question, do you have to learn a profession to do things of that trait, like in WoW you need to go and learn tailoring before you could make any tailoring items.

Bricklayer
10-01-2006, 10:50 PM
definetly, i kind of need detailed explainations like that for most of this game, this game is...complicated, that was perfect thanks brick layer, that makes sense now, i have one question, do you have to learn a profession to do things of that trait, like in WoW you need to go and learn tailoring before you could make any tailoring items.

Honestly, I like crafting in FFXI way more than in WoW, for a few reasons:

1) You can level ANY craft at any time.
2) You don't have to buy recipes, just crystals and mats.
3) Crafting takes more patience in FFXI, but that means you rarely see people who have really leveled their crafts.

Compared to WoW, I would say this game is like Bach to John Williams, or Starbucks to Folgers. Things take longer, but they are also far more enjoyable, if you can acquire the taste.

Nekomieu
10-01-2006, 10:52 PM
Sorry, I try to explain things simply, but I tend to think differently than others, so I confuse people. If you go to a guild, they will tell you how crafting works (and give you a crystal =D) No, you do not need to learn anything for crafting, and you can do all the crafts up to 60, and only one past though.

But, you will need to take a crafting test to be able to advance past 10 (and 20, and 30, etc)

Also, talk to npcs, they will explain a lot of things, like crafting.

What server are you on?

Bricklayer
10-01-2006, 10:59 PM
Sorry, I try to explain things simply, but I tend to think differently than others, so I confuse people. If you go to a guild, they will tell you how crafting works (and give you a crystal =D) No, you do not need to learn anything for crafting, and you can do all the crafts up to 60, and only one past though.

But, you will need to take a crafting test to be able to advance past 10 (and 20, and 30, etc)

Also, talk to npcs, they will explain a lot of things, like crafting.

What server are you on?

Your explanation made complete sense to me :thumbsup:

the_ultimate_shadow
10-01-2006, 11:06 PM
lol, to be honest, i have no idea what server im on, i dont even know how to check

Bricklayer
10-01-2006, 11:10 PM
lol, to be honest, i have no idea what server im on, i dont even know how to check

It should be in the "Select Character" screen, on the left-hand side.

the_ultimate_shadow
10-01-2006, 11:26 PM
it says "World Sylth" does that wound correct?

Bricklayer
10-01-2006, 11:32 PM
it says "World Sylth" does that wound correct?

You're close. It's Sylph.

You can post world-specific questions in the Sylph forum (http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/sylph-88/).

You might want to post a thread introducing yourself either there or in the New Player forum (http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/new-user-introduction-access-problem-how-341/), as well.

Welcome to FFXIOnline :)

the_ultimate_shadow
10-01-2006, 11:48 PM
ty, i've been getting alot of help from people, which i heard is rare in this game so it makes this hard time not so hard and frustrating :D

Jei
10-02-2006, 12:36 AM
:O
helping isn't that rare in this game.
just need a bit of luck to meet the right kind of people.

Balfree
10-02-2006, 12:38 AM
I have this unmeasurable desire of starting a character in sylph just to help you out o.O;

Dunno why... lol

FFVIIMidgar
10-02-2006, 04:38 AM
I've had a good handful of people help me out when I started out in this game. People will help you if they see you are stuck or are unsure of things. It never hurts to ask for help.

For a lot of things in the game (seeing what items do for example) you may need to check online. Some good sites are http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org and http://ffxi.allahkazam.com, among others. I personally use http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org. I definitely wouldn't call it cheating. I only use it to find out what an item does, etc. because there is no other way you can find out unless you ask other people.

Mhurron
10-02-2006, 05:07 AM
Starbucks
Starbucks sucks.
Anyway, crafting can be expensive before it becomes really profitable. For new players who are still trying to get the hang of things and find a steady income I wouldn't recommend starting a craft until you're a little more settled. Find something that you can sell, like crystals are often a good choice plus around San d'oreo there is rabbit hides and meat and sheep meat and hides. Once you get to around level 11-12 you should be able to slaughter almost anything in the zones right outside the city and get drops pretty fast. I would just sell them for now.
Just don't do like I did and put crafting off too long. Once you have a steady income, hopefully by the time you've leveled your first subjob to 15-20 or so, you can start looking into starting to level a craft if you're so inclined.

Celeal
10-02-2006, 05:31 AM
You may try get info from some beginner's reference too. The guide from this site is very nice ^^

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/frequently-asked-questions/32359-beginners-guide-please-read.html

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/frequently-asked-questions/188-ffxi-infomation.html

LyonheartLakshmi
10-02-2006, 06:23 AM
- I've always found the grind to get from level 6 to level 7 to be one of the harder levels to solo. With most melee jobs, you're stuck with level 1 armor until level 7. Once you hit level 7, and can equip some better gear, you'll notice things get a little easier again.

- As you solo from level 1 to level 10+, you'll notice that mobs become stronger, even with the same difficulty rating. At level 1, you can probably take down a Tough mob. Some where around level 5, Toughs become too much, and you will want to stick with Even Match mobs. And then in a few levels, the Even Match mobs feel like too much. If Decent Challenge mobs are consistently giving you trouble, just swallow your pride and go after Easy Prey ones. They might give a little less exp per kill, but you will probably kill more of them in the same amount of time.

- Also, not all mobs are of equal difficulty. I wouldn't suggest trying to solo against Lizard, Crawler, or Funguar type mobs unless you either A) buy a bunch of antidotes, or B) are a lvl 6+ WHM with Poisona. Undead are usually bad news.

Haggai
10-02-2006, 07:31 AM
- Also, not all mobs are of equal difficulty. I wouldn't suggest trying to solo against Lizard, Crawler, or Funguar type mobs unless you either A) buy a bunch of antidotes, or B) are a lvl 6+ WHM with Poisona. Undead are usually bad news.
Sheep are also more difficult than they check. They hit much harder than any other monster in that area that checks the same.

the_ultimate_shadow
10-02-2006, 09:30 PM
i've noticed some of this, i just sold two crystals worth 200 gil each, and i got 1,500 for one of them and 1,900 for the other ^^...i swear people paying WAY more then they need but hey, its their gil, lol, anyways, it got me my new set of lvl 7 armor, and a shield, AND i will be able to buy a new weapon with left over money, mobs got WAY easier. someone who said this was right, from like 5-7 is hard cause ur stuck with really bad gear. thanks everyone, you've all helped SO much, and i honestly appreciate it from the bottum of my heart. this would be so diffacult without u guys, especially if i didn't know about the signet part ^^

Bricklayer
10-02-2006, 10:04 PM
Starbucks sucks.


I know. But saying "Batdorf and Bronson to Folgers" just wouldn't have had quite the same effect...

FFVIIMidgar
10-04-2006, 04:31 AM
i've noticed some of this, i just sold two crystals worth 200 gil each, and i got 1,500 for one of them and 1,900 for the other ^^...i swear people paying WAY more then they need but hey, its their gil, lol, anyways, it got me my new set of lvl 7 armor, and a shield, AND i will be able to buy a new weapon with left over money, mobs got WAY easier. someone who said this was right, from like 5-7 is hard cause ur stuck with really bad gear. thanks everyone, you've all helped SO much, and i honestly appreciate it from the bottum of my heart. this would be so diffacult without u guys, especially if i didn't know about the signet part ^^

You're very welcome! Congratulations on getting your new armor. You are certainly learning well. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. The FFXI community is a great one.

Mhurron
10-04-2006, 04:52 AM
i've noticed some of this, i just sold two crystals worth 200 gil each, and i got 1,500 for one of them and 1,900 for the other ^^...i swear people paying WAY more then they need Thats usually someone making a mistake and bidding on a single crystal when they thought they were bidding on a stack.

the_ultimate_shadow
10-04-2006, 11:19 AM
lol, thats why im OCD and paranoid, i always making sure i pick the right things, i usually double check and triple check before i do anything

FFVIIMidgar
10-04-2006, 06:05 PM
Good idea. It's too bad you're not on the Siren server. I'd be helping you.