Will the USA and the Jap. be using the same servers?

[cameronmd]

Topic???:handsdown

[Laguna]

Wow....i wanna flame you so bad :rolleyes: I'm not an importer but from everyone says yes US will share servers with Japan

screw it...anyone know the URL to that red dragon web site for FF XI?

[TakeshiEiketsu]

Id like to know this simply for transfering items when I get NA version.

[Huck]

No. The US and Japanese Server will NOT be together.

[Janus Zeal]

I agree with Huck on this one but I don't want to get into a flame and hatred debate on this so...

*zooms out of the topic* lol

[Saulo]

No they WONT share servers. We will have our own. Most likely Europeons will share with us like in most MMORPGs. Dont you wanna flame Laguna so bad :rolleyes:

:p

[stent]

Yes we will most likely have dif. severs

[AKosygin]

Not entirely true. The US players will have a new set of servers, HOWEVER, it does not prevent you from getting on a Japanese server via a World Pass.

I think you will get to cross if you wish.

[aspa]

Originally posted by AKosygin
Not entirely true. The US players will have a new set of servers, HOWEVER, it does not prevent you from getting on a Japanese server via a World Pass.

I think you will get to cross if you wish.

Yes, this will probably be an option for beginning NA players, but importers like TakeshiEiketsu who are thinking of transferring in the other direction will be in a more difficult situation. Even if they are able to come to the new servers via World Pass (which seems likely), a World Pass doesn't allow you to transfer an existing character, it only allows you to start over with a new one on the designated server. So the importers won't be able to keep their original characters (and items, TE) unless there is a special Worldshifter implemented at that time... which is also possible (although I can't imagine a good reason for Square to want to allow it) but then they won't get to choose which of the new servers they come to.
/shrugs * just speculation...
But this is why I didn't import. This and my crappy computer, that is. :o

[Maxim]

I still have reason to believe that they'll both share servers. Otherwise, the ability to set which language you speak in the game will be utterly useless, pointless, and meaningless. If you don't understand what I mean, here's the menu -

http://april-showers.com/maxim/ffxi/clp550.jpg

If they're going to keep the servers separate, they won't need something like that since everyone will be speaking the same language.

[CrimsonDeath]

Unless...

( No, I'm not going to finish that...Or this either. )

[Janus Zeal]

Japanese people still can speak English you know, why would the names be shown in English then? Even on their site, PlayOnline.com the name is in English no?

English is the most known language on the planet, its the closest to universal a language we could have, so it's not meaningless.

Back to what if they would want everyone to share servers they would have put Italian, French, Spanish and other languages as well.

[Sindinista]

I hope the NA does have different servers. But I hope I can at least use my NA version and still keep my old Sindinista while making a new one on an NA servers. I will be a very happy man if that happens. Plus it would be very interesting to start out on a completely new server with all level ones.

[AKosygin]

Originally posted by Janus Zeal
Japanese people still can speak English you know, why would the names be shown in English then? Even on their site, PlayOnline.com the name is in English no?

Yes, but why would you put "English Only" if you were not going to integrate it. While in Japan, you would think that everyone will speak Japanese, and then some that will also speak English; that would only give two options, Japanese only and Japanese with English. But there is an option where you only speak English! Which definitely implies something.

Back to what if they would want everyone to share servers they would have put Italian, French, Spanish and other languages as well.

This is presuming that they will have the Italian, French, Spanish, etc. dedicated. The only confirmed releases are Japan and US, hence only two languages. I haven't heard anything about a special release for the French, or Spanish speakers. In addition, it also doesn't mean they can't add the option later.

[Maxim]

Actually, English isn't the "most known language in the world." When you think about it, it's really Chinese that's the most well known language seeing as how 1/6 of the world can speak it. Being that as it may, it wouldn't it make sense for Square to put Chinese as one of the language you can change to? The answer is no, simply because Square isn't planning on releasing the game and merging servers in China any time soon. The same goes for why Square didn't put Italian, French, Spanish, and any other language - they're not going to be releasing commercial versions of FFXI in France, Spain, Mexico, or Italy any time in the near future and placing them on the same server as the Japanese.

However, that isn't the case with the United States. Square from the beginning has probably planned to integrate both countries on to the same server, hence the reason why you can switch your language to English. Sure, some people in Japan know English, but that isn't enough of a reason to merit having a whole option dedicated to a language which only 1/3 of the country can speak - in fact, most of them can't speak it very well anyway. The primary language of a Japanese person living in Japan is Japanese, and they don't speak English 100% of the time since it's just not an efficient means of communication. Every time I'm in a party with one importer and four Japanese people, I have to constantly translate because the Japanese people rarely understand English well enough, which once again proves that Japanese people can't speak it. I've had Japanese foreign exchange students who have been learning English for four years, and trust me, they don't know a lot of English. They haven't been exposed to it enough in Japan to actually get a good grasp on it. English isn't an easy language to learn as a second language.

I'm pretty sure the reason why the names are all in English is because it's easier. If Square allowed you to have names written in Japanese, then you'll have to use either hiragana or katakana, which is already over 100 characters, and then there's the possibility of people mixing hiragana and katakana in their names and it just becomes ugly and confusing (which is also why Square made it so that you always have to have the first letter capitalized when inputting your name and the rest of them is all in lower case. Numbers aren't allowed in your name either). All of this is probably just for cosmetic reasons. That way you don't have people who run around with names like "uLtRaFreAkYd00deTTe69696xxx‚³‚Á‚Û‚ëƒCƒ`ƒoƒ“". Seriously, that's just plain ugly, and Square is anything BUT a company that supports ugliness.

[Dwimordene]

I believe we will get our own servers, but they won't be cut off from the Japanese. I'm sure we could get on each other's servers using a world pass. There will not be any character transfers though.

[Fallnight]

Okay, here is MY take on this subject.

There well be at least 10 new World set up when NA version is released. (well... thati is my guess.....really depends on number of games sold at the game 1st released)

Howver, the way that how each new player get in to each world will be the same. Which is:

No world pass, you will be randomly put on a server which is more then likely on a newer or lesser player world.

With world pass form a world, you can get in to that world. (btw, world pass are on use now)

so YES and NO to combine servers.

[Janus Zeal]

Originally posted by Dwimordene
I believe we will get our own servers, but they won't be cut off from the Japanese. I'm sure we could get on each other's servers using a world pass. There will not be any character transfers though.

Yes I might concede you that, that would be the best of both worlds:

-Those who want to play on Japanese servers can
-Those who want to play on US servers can
-There isn't transfer of character, therefore all US servers would be blank from the start, even though Japanese and importers could go there (but not their already existing characters)

However, that isn't the case with the United States. Square from the beginning has probably planned to integrate both countries on to the same server, hence the reason why you can switch your language to English

I'd just like to make a comment to that:
It is not United States version, it is North American version, therefore it includes Canada as well. Nearly 20-25% of Canada is French, but its not enough to actually consider it as an option for FFXI I know (I'm not cynical, only stating a fact).

I know for a fact that they would release versions supporting the languages I mentioned (Italian, French, German and others) because of the European release. I'm pretty sure it won't be added as an option in the Japan or NA releases, only time will tell...again my last sentence is speculation, but the beginning is a fact.

Also you can only assume that this option is useless, and heck even if it was totally useless, how much does it cost them to implement it? You can only speculate on that uselessness.

[Fallnight]

Originally posted by Janus Zeal


-There isn't transfer of character, therefore all US servers would be blank from the start, even though Japanese and importers could go there (but not their already existing characters)



that is not entirely true IMO
according to my comment. IF it is done according to what SE has done before when they added new worlds, there will be World Shifters set up.
So YES to transfer, but limited. For Example, you are only limited to "Shift" to certin world depends on which world the player is in right now. For more infomation, check the past posts about world shifters


General comments about how I view the differences between Jpn and NA or future European version is that.... the language that the options, story lines items are different, what really makes the world "MORE" North American or anything is the players in it not the version type.

As for the so called the "Useless" language option, I guess we will only find out how useless it i when the game is released or details announced by SE

[Janus Zeal]

Originally posted by Fallnight



that is not entirely true IMO
according to my comment. IF it is done according to what SE has done before when they added new worlds, there will be World Shifters set up.
So YES to transfer, but limited. For Example, you are only limited to "Shift" to certin world depends on which world the player is in right now. For more infomation, check the past posts about world shifters


General comments about how I view the differences between Jpn and NA or future European version is that.... the language that the options, story lines items are different, what really makes the world "MORE" North American or anything is the players in it not the version type.

As for the so called the "Useless" language option, I guess we will only find out how useless it i when the game is released or details announced by SE

Well I say there wouldn't be transfers for a reason. Why did they make transfer possible from Japanese to Japanese servers in the past is because some servers were overpopulated, while some were nearly empty, it creates a disbalance and they wanted to remedy to that.

Considering the volume of North American players, I don't see why they would need World Shifters set up at all. If indeed they needed to do that, they would only do it later, much later, once they see the NA servers are undercrowded or something...

[TakeshiEiketsu]

Originally posted by Janus Zeal

If indeed they needed to do that, they would only do it later, much later, once they see the NA servers are undercrowded or something...



I agree to some extent...Square is big on level balacing players, so I think they would give option to transfer some high level chars to the NA servers from JP, or JP to NA just for the fun, I always liked playing JP servers in PSO.

[Fallnight]

Originally posted by Janus Zeal


Well I say there wouldn't be transfers for a reason. Why did they make transfer possible from Japanese to Japanese servers in the past is because some servers were overpopulated, while some were nearly empty, it creates a disbalance and they wanted to remedy to that.

Considering the volume of North American players, I don't see why they would need World Shifters set up at all. If indeed they needed to do that, they would only do it later, much later, once they see the NA servers are undercrowded or something...

A. IMO IF what I said about sever is true ...there will be no such thing as a JPN or NA sever, there will be more world that Have more of one or the other.

B. Disbalance?? from what I know (AKA I might be wrong) the World Shifters were set up last tiem because they opend 2 new worlds

C. World Shifters also allows LV balance of the server. I am not going in to the big argument about the having or with out having higher lv people are is a good thing or bad thing.... I simply just want to point out that... if a world is brand new all lv 1s ....... REALLY .....75% of the world will be empty .... (including Expension IMO expension in NA will come out roughly the same time as the core game) so will that be Effective interms of FOR sever useage (I really have no idea for this one) or Balance ?