Goblin Drink Found !!!

[ValisOfValefor]

Well as of today I have seen the internet sprawled with the recipe for the goblin drink, Though it was found at BG forums.

Cooking : 80

Crystal: Water
1 La Thiene Cabbage
1 Wild Onion
1 Gyshal Green
1 Frost Turnip
1 Distilled Water
1 San d'Orian Carrot
1 Elshimo Newt
1 Watermelon


I dont have this skill anywhere close to testing this, anyone with this high of skill want to (and I'll love you forever if you do :love:)

[Mhurron]

1 Elshimo Newt Is this as much of a pain in the ass to get as the Elshimo frog is? Also, what is a Goblin drink supposed to do?

[ValisOfValefor]

The goblin drink pops the goblin wolfman supposedly (read: nm for parade gorget (http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Parade_Gorget))

[Icemage]

Well as of today I have seen the internet sprawled with the recipe for the goblin drink, Though it was found at BG forums.
Cooking : 80
Crystal: Water
1 La Thiene Cabbage
1 Wild Onion
1 Gyshal Green
1 Frost Turnip
1 Distilled Water
1 San d'Orian Carrot
1 Elshimo Newt
1 Watermelon
I dont have this skill anywhere close to testing this, anyone with this high of skill want to (and I'll love you forever if you do :love:)

I have a mule with the necessary skills, and my main has more than enough Fishing skill to get an Elshimo Newt (which are a pain, but that "that" much of a pain if you know what you're doing).

Will try this in a bit and report back.

Icemage

[DakAttack]

Few people have already obtained the Parade Gorget long before hte ingrediants were hinted to, maybe about two or three. It's amazing that they could possibly guess the ingrediants from the description, and even more amazing that they guessed Elshimo Newt would be one of them.

Newts are fished up as Rare/Ex, and are usually traded to a Tonberry for a roasted newt. The roasted newt is used in the Mithran Tracker BCNM for CoP.

[Icemage]

Newts are fished up as Rare/Ex, and are usually traded to a Tonberry for a roasted newt. The roasted newt is used in the Mithran Tracker BCNM for CoP.
Incorrect. Elshimo Newts come from Yuhtunga Jungle's waters, and are not R or EX (though fairly challenging for those without a good fishing rod and a fair amount of fishing skill).

You're thinking of the muddy siredon, which is fished in Phanauet Channel and is turned into Blackened Siredon for the BC.


Icemage

[DakAttack]

Incorrect. Elshimo Newts come from Yuhtunga Jungle's waters, and are not R or EX (though fairly challenging for those without a good fishing rod and a fair amount of fishing skill).

You're thinking of the muddy siredon, which is fished in Phanauet Channel and is turned into Blackened Siredon for the BC.


Icemage

Sorry, today's not my day. -_-

Damn, that was a stupid mix up.

[ValisOfValefor]

Speaking of elshimo newts, might want to start farming them now, they just jumped up to 20k on my server (hello moeny to get paladin to 60 ^^).

[Icemage]

Speaking of elshimo newts, might want to start farming them now, they just jumped up to 20k on my server (hello moeny to get paladin to 60 ^^).

I just fished up 4 of them. Going to go test the recipe now. Will post back when I know more.


Icemage

[Jei]

Just checked the fish market (after 3 months,) newt are still cheap o_O; like 5-6k each. 1 or 2 shot up to 50k tho.

[Icemage]

Recipe confirmed.

I was able to make 4 bottles of Goblin Drink with 4 Elshimo Newts on my level 98 cooking mule.


Icemage

[ValisOfValefor]

Thank you Icemage, now I can go get that Parade Gorget with some friends :handsdown

[Davitron3000]

is it confirmed that this pops the 'wolfman'? Not sure if I would wear this over my shield torque but would still like to have it, and I have 2 ingame friends with high cooking and fishing :biggrin:

[Loial]

is it confirmed that this pops the 'wolfman'? Not sure if I would wear this over my shield torque but would still like to have it, and I have 2 ingame friends with high cooking and fishing :biggrin:
Yes. Initial tests show that 85% or more of your baseHP triggers the latent.

So, 850/1000 = latent on. If you add 200 in hp gear, 850/1200 = latent on as well.

[KoukiRyu]

Prices are already jumping up on my server as well newts are reaching more than 40k I think now...also for anyone going to try this, Elshimo newts can drop from Sahagin in Sea Serpent Grotto...this is also heavily camped on my server already. -_-

[Davitron3000]

Yes. Initial tests show that 85% or more of your baseHP triggers the latent.
So, 850/1000 = latent on. If you add 200 in hp gear, 850/1200 = latent on as well.

Thanks for that info ^_^

[Armando]

Yes. Initial tests show that 85% or more of your baseHP triggers the latent.

So, 850/1000 = latent on. If you add 200 in hp gear, 850/1200 = latent on as well.Um...that's contradictory >.> If you need more than 85% HP, adding 200 will put you below that. So, do you need more, or less than 85%?

Also, I'm amazed there's nothing in this recipe that's worth hundreds of thousands of gil. It's almost too good to be true. Anyone know if this is a 100% drop?

EDIT: Never mind, got the answer, it's not 100% drop, although the drop rate doesn't seem too bad either.

[Icemage]

I think the operative word here is "base" HP.

If what Loial is saying is if your normal (naked) max HP is 1000, you need 850 or more HP to get the effect. Adding more HP via gear/food/etc. shouldn't affect the trigger point - even if you add 500 more HP from gear and food, you'll still trigger it above 850 (which is actually rather cool if true).


Icemage

[Ziero]

If this was confirmed, a mod should prolly take the '(supposedly)' out of the title >_>

[Loial]

I think Icemage clarified it nicely. I'm not sure about food effects. I'd think +HP food would work the same as +HP gear, however I can't confirm this myself atm. I also believe that baseHP *includes* HP merits. I'll see if I can verify that.

And I do agree about being skeptical. Nothing in that recipe list is hard to acquire. I think Wild Onions and newts are the only items that originate from something other than an NPC vendor.

[Armando]

I think the operative word here is "base" HP.Ah, I see, I overlooked that. If it really worked that way, it'd be fantastic...

[Icemage]

If this was confirmed, a mod should prolly take the '(supposedly)' out of the title >_>
What an excellent idea. Done!


Icemage

[Raydeus]

Question:

How strong is the Regen effect?

[Aeni]

Question:

How strong is the Regen effect?

Refresh effect, not regen. It's probably another 1 mp/tick.

[Raydeus]

Refresh effect, not regen. It's probably another 1 mp/tick.

Ara, that's weird, Mystery says Regen but Somepage says Refresh. :biggrin:


If it's refresh indeed then I guess I'll be getting one soon. :thumbsup:

[Herrisa]

Could anybody test the 2nd recipe given?

1 x La Theine Cabbage
1 x Frost Turnip
1 x Wild Onion
1 x Gysahl Greens
1 x Distilled Water
1 x San d'Orian Carrot
1 x Phanauet Newt
1 x Watermelon

Found here: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Goblin_Drink

Phanauet Newt Info: http://www.finalfishing.com/Fish.aspx - select Phanauet Newt

I get these suckers all the time at the middle landing (Carpenter's Landing) fishing for giant catfish.

[Karinya]

Another site has a screenshot showing refresh in the item stats box and people have supposedly tested it at 1/tick refresh.

I have to say, while it's probably good for PLD leveling up and maybe good in merit, it doesn't seem appealing for Dynamis, Limbus or HNM. MP just isn't a major concern in those situations, especially since any spell other than Flash is highly likely to be interrupted while there are any monsters attacking you. I'll stick with harmonia's or shield torque, thanks.

It may be better for DRK, though, since they don't always get refresh even when there's one in the party, they don't have auto-refresh trait, and not everything can be aspired to make up for it.

I'm going to wait until the drink drops back to the 5-10k range and there's nobody competing for the spawn point. Shouldn't be more than a couple weeks, people are just hung up on the newness of it.

[Davitron3000]

Another site has a screenshot showing refresh in the item stats box and people have supposedly tested it at 1/tick refresh.
I have to say, while it's probably good for PLD leveling up and maybe good in merit, it doesn't seem appealing for Dynamis, Limbus or HNM. MP just isn't a major concern in those situations, especially since any spell other than Flash is highly likely to be interrupted while there are any monsters attacking you. I'll stick with harmonia's or shield torque, thanks.
It may be better for DRK, though, since they don't always get refresh even when there's one in the party, they don't have auto-refresh trait, and not everything can be aspired to make up for it.
I'm going to wait until the drink drops back to the 5-10k range and there's nobody competing for the spawn point. Shouldn't be more than a couple weeks, people are just hung up on the newness of it.

I agree. I can't see myself using this over Shield or Harmonia's Torque. But I still want one :P I think I would probably use it on 50 and 60 capped stuff. (not sure)

I tried to get one last night. There were about 10 people at each spawn point. I saw the Wolfman several times, but never actually saw the spawn point because people were 'claiming' so fast. So like you Karinya, I will just wait it out and get one later.

[Loial]

I used my new parade gorget last night at lolHydra. I got the sanction refresh effect so I had 3mp/tick. It worked like a charm. I haven't had the chance to try it anywhere else though. But, so far I like what I see. Is 1mp/tick > 3 enmity or 7 shield skill? That's debateable.

For the time being, I swap it out for an enmity torque when my HP is low or my MP is near full.

/targetnpc
/item "Goblin Drink"

Spam that with no mobs in front of you and it will likely increase your chances. I went 2/3 on the drop with a friend.

[Daver]

Here's some results as an fyi:

I fished up 5 newts in about 90 mins at the waterfall before Sea Serpent in Yuhtunga Jungle. My fishing skill is 38. I used a fly lure and a Halcyon Rod.

I made 4 drinks with one failure. My cooking skill is 81. So I think the drink skill cap info above is correct as well.

[Davitron3000]

I used my new parade gorget last night at lolHydra. I got the sanction refresh effect so I had 3mp/tick. It worked like a charm. I haven't had the chance to try it anywhere else though. But, so far I like what I see. Is 1mp/tick > 3 enmity or 7 shield skill? That's debateable.
For the time being, I swap it out for an enmity torque when my HP is low or my MP is near full.
/targetnpc
/item "Goblin Drink"
Spam that with no mobs in front of you and it will likely increase your chances. I went 2/3 on the drop with a friend.

I think I would only take 1 mp/tick over +3 enmity or +7 shield skill if I had no one to refresh me. (but that is just me)

I used that macro set up and still got beat everytime, but it is not a big deal. I can wait.

[Loial]

I was PLD/NIN with double march at the time. 3mp/tick myself had its uses. At least as /NIN, shield skill is not as relevant as /WAR.

Like I said, its pretty debateable which is better. It is situational if you need the extra mp or if you need the extra enmity. I'll probably find myself wearing the shield or enmity torque and only using the MP torque if I feel I need some extra regen and hate is under control.

[I'm just a guy]

yea.. another uber camping time, and soon almost everyone will have it and itll go down once i try and camp them >_>:;

[Karinya]

This would have been a lot sexier if it had been discovered before we all got auto-refresh trait and before sanction was introduced. If you already have 2/tick plus whatever MP-support jobs are in your party, another 1/tick doesn't look so hot.

For tanking, that is. Auto-refresh, sanction, parade gorget is 3/tick *without* a refresher, which is enough to make me take another look at the melee/healer concept that was posted here a bit ago. (4 if you have VC, but I don't know if it will be worth it compared to O.hat/turban + AJ/hauby.) I think it was PLD/WHM... you put that in a party with a RDM or BRD and four melees (at least two NIN or /NIN) and murder some helpless VTs. Don't load up on enmity because you want hate to bounce around the /NINs (and spread out damage for Curagas). The idea is *not* to tank, but to provide as much healing as the party needs while still contributing some melee damage.

MP *recovery* is what lets you cast more spells per minute, not MP maximum (although effectiveness per MP also plays a role, which is why you want to use curagas as much as possible). PLD are pretty good at it now, especially in a situation where nobody can rest.


There's also solo, but solo you might as well just wear Hercules Ring and live in orange HP; you get a free 3/tick regen that way too, which is nearly as good as another MP/tick.

[Althrun]

Why not just macro the PG in and out b/w fights? it would make downtime smaller and you could macro your normal equip back in for the fight. I mean, if you're a PLD, odds are during most a fight you're going to be <75% HP anyways (you have to be >75% to trigger), no?