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greydaze
09-15-2006, 05:18 AM
Is it to have spider/enfeebling torque?

I tried maat today, my very first ever maat fight (yes yes, and I have been playing since near NA release). My strategy was:

Flare >>> Ele Seal >>> Sleep2 >>> Manafont >>> Freeze >>> Stun >>> Sleep2 >>> -aga3

It all went well until my second sleep was resisted twice. Normally, I'm very good with sleeping things. I had dark staff and Wizard's Coat macro'd in for sleep, but I don't own a spider/enfeebling torque. Would I have won with one of tese? Should I get one?

Icemage
09-15-2006, 05:29 AM
Enfeebling gear definitely helps. Also helps a little to fight him on Darksday if you're worried about Sleep.

You'll probably want the torque anyway if you start doing Dynamis. Getting partially resisted on Sleepga II is extremely unpleasant. :)


Icemage

Zamphire
09-15-2006, 05:33 AM
Cap off your INT as much as you can, food, gear, anything. I had +30 INT as a RDM when I fought him and was only resisted once, though my enfeebling skill is probably higher then yours.

Mog
09-15-2006, 06:54 AM
I'm gonna try maat at 66 or 67. Definitely picking up Elemental torque and Pens rope for the fight. (waiting for my SH to sell first though, bah!) But really, it depends on the level you fight him at. What level are you greydaze? If you're 70, you should have no problem taking him on w/o the torque.

oh yeah! another question for you. How much health did you bring him down to?

Off topic: how the hell did you sig do that Zamph......hax!

Zamphire
09-15-2006, 06:58 AM
Off topic: how the hell did you sig do that Zamph......hax!

I plead the fif! 1, 2, 3, 4, FIIIIFF!

Mog
09-15-2006, 06:59 AM
I plead the fif! 1, 2, 3, 4, FIIIIFF!

fizith! XD <3 chapelle.

On topic again. I just recently thought of something. Probably the best thing to do, would be to use hi-ethers in the place of manafont, and buy a reraise earring before the fight and use it. That way, when/if you die, you'll have one more chance to one shot him down.....plus you'll be able to stun him and use an aga 3 spell if you're lucky.

This is probably what I'm gonna do if I wanna have a chance against him at my level. x.x

Zamphire
09-15-2006, 07:09 AM
fizith! XD <3 chapelle.

On topic again. I just recently thought of something. Probably the best thing to do, would be to use hi-ethers in the place of manafont, and buy a reraise earring before the fight and use it. That way, when/if you die, you'll have one more chance to one shot him down.....plus you'll be able to stun him and use an aga 3 spell if you're lucky.

This is probably what I'm gonna do if I wanna have a chance against him at my level. x.x

Seriously though, if you just go to danasoft.com you can get your own sig like mine.

Corthaemus
09-15-2006, 07:54 AM
It is definitely possible to kill Maat w/o the torque. I did not have it when I went to fight him. I'm also a hume. I think you just hit a stroke of bad luck. BLM Maat is one of the easiest. I didn't even try to sleep him the second time, I just stunned him after my second nuke, and started casting Firaga III. Maat, in turn, started casting an 'aga. Obviously, mine hit first ftw.

greydaze
09-16-2006, 12:42 AM
I'm gonna try maat at 66 or 67. Definitely picking up Elemental torque and Pens rope for the fight. (waiting for my SH to sell first though, bah!) But really, it depends on the level you fight him at. What level are you greydaze? If you're 70, you should have no problem taking him on w/o the torque.

oh yeah! another question for you. How much health did you bring him down to?

Off topic: how the hell did you sig do that Zamph......hax!

He had less than a quarter, because I got Flare, ES, Sleep, Manafont, Freeze, stun. Then. he resisted two sleeps and I was done for.

I'm a hume 69 BLM with capped-at-68 skill. I'm a Hume with the following gear:

Black Cloak
Wizard's Hat
Wizard's Coat
Wizard's Tonban
Wizard's Gloves
DRuid's Slops
Wizard's Feet
Sapient Cloak
Penitent's Rope
Genius Rings +1
Moldavite Earring
Morion Earring +1
All Staves, with Ice HQ
Phantom Tathlum
Elemental Torque

I switch in items by macro depending on what I've cast.

I used Sweet Rice Cake and Yag Drink, plus brought a hi-ether and x-potion. I have every spell up to 70, with the exception of Tornado.

Balfree
09-16-2006, 01:35 AM
FOr the record i never got a enfeeb / spider torque, i beat him at 70 with mostly sub-par gear, i scored very lucky when he decided enfeebling me was a smart move, i lost to him twice, but third time hes like poison -> bind -> firaga 3 that got stunned -> frost

i lol'd

Mog
09-17-2006, 01:07 PM
Genius Rings +1.

Wow. I didn't even know it was possible to HQ those. Howd you pull that off? o.O

On another topic, I took on maat today! I was really nervous about the fight, and I just obtained 67 last night. So, I go and camp the test, get it about after an hour or so, then set up my maat-mashing macro-pallette and trade him the test.

I go in, put reraise earring on and activate it. Then I cast Freeze on maat. For some reason, my elemental seal macro wasn't working, and what I didn't realize is that I was supposed to target myself for it to work. -.-; So maat casts Waterga III on me and comes charging at me until I'm down to about 100 health. I manually ES, then I cast Sleep II on him(miracle). I back up a bit and take a breather. Next, I cast Flare, then I was able to stun him and cast waterga III with only 100 health left.

and here's my gear, if you're interested:
Ice Staff, Fire Staff
Wizards Petatos
Justaucorps
Wizards Tonban
Elemental Torque
Wizards Gloves
Wizards Feet
Red Cape +1
Penitents Rope
Phantum Earring
Moldavite Earring
Genius Ring X2
Phantom Tathlum

I am one lucky tarutaru.....

Mhurron
09-17-2006, 01:13 PM
my elemental seal macro wasn't working, and what I didn't realize is that I was supposed to target myself for it to work. -.-; So maat casts Waterga III on me and comes charging at me until I'm down to about 100 health. I manually ES, then I cast Sleep II on him(miracle). I back up a bit and take a breather. Next, I cast Flare, then I was able to stun him and cast waterga III with only 100 health left. ...
I am one lucky tarutaru.....BLM have it so easy.

greydaze
09-18-2006, 12:02 AM
Errr,, not +1, the genius rings. It is possible to HQ i think, but I dont have the HQs.

UnnamedGalka
09-18-2006, 07:35 AM
You don't need the torque, as Maat is extremely resistant to Sleep; no matter how high you pump your enfeebling skill, your Sleep most likely won't stick without the use of Elemental Seal.

My strat was this:

Stocked up on INT gear, brought the appropriate elemental staves and went in on Iceday. Used a Blink Band before engaging.

Freeze -> Elemental Seal + Sleep II -> Manafont -> Flare -> Stun -> Waterga III

Worked like a charm.

Mog
09-18-2006, 08:19 AM
Stocked up on INT gear, brought the appropriate elemental staves and went in on Iceday. Used a Blink Band before engaging.

Freeze -> Elemental Seal + Sleep II -> Manafont -> Flare -> Stun -> Waterga III

.

Great minds think alike. Ice staff aside, I believe I had 34 int counting the apple pie. I could have had extra intelligence going for me, but I wanted to keep the Elemental Torque on and not take any chances with landing my spells.

kuu
09-18-2006, 10:14 AM
You can do it the old fashion way.

nuke his ass, runaway from his counter attack, watch him come, kick his rear again, repeat.

Maat is as stupid as any other mage npc in that respect.

TheMidg
09-18-2006, 02:44 PM
Is it to have spider/enfeebling torque?
I tried maat today, my very first ever maat fight (yes yes, and I have been playing since near NA release). My strategy was:
Flare >>> Ele Seal >>> Sleep2 >>> Manafont >>> Freeze >>> Stun >>> Sleep2 >>> -aga3
It all went well until my second sleep was resisted twice. Normally, I'm very good with sleeping things. I had dark staff and Wizard's Coat macro'd in for sleep, but I don't own a spider/enfeebling torque. Would I have won with one of tese? Should I get one?
Hmm I dunno why you would do flare then freeze o.o Freeze weakens fire resitance so I suggest at the very least switching that order around :P Do Freeze -> Flare D:

greydaze
09-18-2006, 09:20 PM
Well, I did it! Third time really IS the charm!

Freeze >>> ES >>> Sleep2 >>> Flare >>> Stun >>> Firaga3

I thought I was done for. The first time, you know what went wrong. Then I came back and he one-shotted me with firaga3. The last time, I came back determined and had everything in order. I thought I was dead when, instead of hitting my Firaga3 macdro, I hit dead air. He has only used poisonga and bind till now, but then he started flood. I finally for my firaga macro and prayed my spell would land first. And it did! :evil:

Mog
09-18-2006, 09:26 PM
I thought I was dead when, instead of hitting my Firaga3 macdro, I hit dead air.

Heh, I know the feeling. My heart literally sunk into the ground when my elemental seal macro wouldn't go off and he was charging me with his fists. >_<

Yuanlung
09-19-2006, 10:59 AM
Probably the best thing to do, would be to use hi-ethers in the place of manafont, and buy a reraise earring before the fight and use it. That way, when/if you die, you'll have one more chance to one shot him down.....


Couple draw back on using hi-ether...

Manafont not just offers 0 MP cost on your spells. It also protects you from spell interruption, like, when a cheating BLM+MNK geezer pounding on your ass while you are trying to nuke him down.

Also, there is the item lock. You are unable to take actions for a few brief seconds after you use some items. This might do you in if Maat is actively trying to put you down.

Most BLM would have enough MP for the 3 nukes anyways, if you are short, just take a yag drink and use it before you start the fight.



Another problem is that Maat regen HP very quickly when he goes back to yellow after you go down. One stradegy that I saw people doing was to apply a DoT on him after the second nuke, before the stun, so if you go down, he won't be able to regen HP before you get back up can font nuke him.






FYI, it is possible to defeat Maat in 2 shots.

HQ staves, int food, full +elem and +int gears.

I went in on a firesday, and did Flare>ES Sleep>Flood. I was going to follow up with a stun and another nuke, but he surrunder at that point.

Mog
09-19-2006, 11:19 AM
It also protects you from spell interruption, like, when a cheating BLM+MNK geezer pounding on your ass while you are trying to nuke him down.

That I did not know. I was always wondering if there's no spell interruption with manafont.

Cruton
09-20-2006, 05:26 AM
Heya,

Grats on your win.

Couple things:
First, I'm pretty sure you cannot sleep Maat twice, no matter how hard you try/what gear you use.

Second, for my fight, I brought blink band, melon pie, yag drink and scroll reraise (just incase). Ended up doing Flare >> E. Seal + Sleep >> Flood >> Win.

Blink band was nice because when I was casting sleep and he was meleeing me, he did not hit me.

Good luck everyone else trying Maat.

Mhurron
09-20-2006, 05:35 AM
First, I'm pretty sure you cannot sleep Maat twice, no matter how hard you try/what gear you use.Yes you can.

Buzer
09-20-2006, 06:44 AM
Wow. I didn't even know it was possible to HQ those. Howd you pull that off? o.O

If FFXI Wiki is telling the truth,
Goldsmithing (80)
Yield: Zircon Ring
HQ 1: Genius Ring +1
Earth Crystal
1 x Gold Ring +1
1 x Zircon

Then again, they also say the only boost is def+3 when compared to regular one.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Genius_Ring_Plus_1

Neomage
10-21-2006, 06:49 AM
There are Omniscient Earrings +1... I want a pair of those! Like Phantom+1s but cooler!

Meepster
10-23-2006, 08:29 AM
hmmm... i had basically the same gear at that lv... hell i didnt even have my af body to macro in for sleep at that time and i didnt have problems.... I went in on Firesday and did Flare > ES Sleep II > Firaga III and he gave up

try that out

Divi
10-24-2006, 09:53 PM
My strat for maat as 70 blm was Melon pie +1 and a blink band, I had regular lvl 70 gear on and actually was a little gimped with some pieces. I popped a Yag. Drink and started Firaga III >> Ele seal >> Sleep II >> Bind >> Manafront >> Burst >> Stun >> Firaga III. My bind actually got resisted but firaga went off w/o a hitch. I did get a little lucky, after burst he started casting AM, so I was able to get my Firaga III off.