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PTT
08-07-2006, 06:44 AM
Question: Would the developers please consider allowing more than one music file per Bard instrument, based on the 'type' of bard song that is being cast? In other words, when a bard plays a "March" , could it please sound like a March, and when he plays an "Elegy" , could it sound different than say, a "Ballad" ?

The bard music isn't bad, but I'd like some variety, some upbeat and dirge-y song files to break up the mix. Because sometimes, "Doot doo doo do-dah dah!" doesn't convey the type of song cast, y'know?

Akai
08-07-2006, 06:50 AM
pleeeasseee! i cant stand listening to the same stuff, over, and over, and over~ ; ; just make them different, i dont care how D:

ikkleste
08-07-2006, 08:15 AM
yes please!

Akai
08-07-2006, 08:20 AM
ahh its just so boring, listening to the same song, over and over D: especially since brd is already a boring job, to me atleast >_<
maybe some more floating notes, instead of just the onpu, #, and whatever else there is :X

Mhurron
08-07-2006, 08:21 AM
Make it sound like the Bard carries a symphony orchestra with them. Not making fun of the idea, I would appreciate it since I'll probably be giving Bard a go eventually, but it would just seem funny to have a little Taru bard break out in Beethoven's 5th or something.

Bards need drums for Marches though.

Akai
08-07-2006, 08:25 AM
hmm maybe they should add drums and guitars also? O.o but, that would kinda be gimp, without new spells, and i dont see any new things new brd songs could do :x

Mhurron
08-07-2006, 08:30 AM
Just saying, how do you play a march on a harp?

Sabaron
08-07-2006, 09:30 AM
I'd love to see guitar/mandolin. Even if the songs only differed on class and not individually, it would be a major improvement. It doesn't take very long to come up with short little MIDI diddies either esp. since they're only 6-8 seconds long at the most--and you can always borrow from the classics. Besides, with MIDI, you can write one melody and play it on any number of instruments. Come on, SE, one song per instrument is lame especially considering all the bard does is play music. If you've got the time to have artists develop 3 second 3D animations for all those spells, surely you can spare a couple of hours of musician time to do some 6 second songs...

Macht
08-07-2006, 10:30 AM
You guys do realize that the song being played is a part of the games story. It's the song of the "Memories of the Stone, the People, and the Wind". Though they are only playing the first verse of it(Which is also story related as to why). So for some more potent songs they might add later I see no reason why they would not have it sing the second or third verse to the song.

To also add in the song "Memories of the Stone, the People, and the Wind" I do not recall any drumbs in it. A March is a song that inspires courage not a cadence song, a cadence song is a dumb beat following the marching pattern.

So for the Marches that song being played on harp creates the true form of the song for the intent of inspiring courage, as you find in the story too you'll hear more of the reasons why the songs lyrics are generally not sung either(It's mearly the tone of the song, not the actual words). Which if the options becomes available later would be presented also for even stronger songs.

Lasswyn
08-08-2006, 06:37 AM
Bards really ought to have a mandolin or a lute anyway. At least, that's how medieval bards are usually portrayed. Adding more tunes would be excellent, and we needn't worry about what a certain style would sound like on an instrument that doesn't seem fitting, because if it's well written (and well-played) it'll still make sense. Remember shows you've seen about the Civil War...that lone Yankee drummer is always accompanied by a piccolo. ;)

Macht
08-08-2006, 09:00 AM
It may still make sense that it's the same song played on a different instrument I'm sure, just it wouldn't follow the story so tightly. That's one of the things I find so enchanting about the game is the detail they went too on it, everything ties together in one way or another. Creating a new song for it is just undermining their own story.

Also much of fantisy type or romanced stories don't tend to use drums. It's always a flute, ocarina, harp, and violins or something similar. Even chimes in a few occasions.

PTT
08-08-2006, 12:41 PM
That's nice that it ties into the story, but if you look at it from another point of view...

Bard's aren't playing "Memories of the Stone, the People, and the Wind" every time they're hitting a macro. They're playing "Mage's Ballad," "Blade Madrigal," "Chocobo Mazurka," and so on.

If every song had to be written around "Memories of the Stone, the People, and the Wind" to have any magic power at all, then why on earth did they become bards, masters of music, in the first place? It's like they've wasted their bard apprenticeship learning to write one song that anyone could learn how to do.

Newbusarcanemus
08-08-2006, 04:42 PM
Personally, i agree with this idea. Let's think of this logically, is a song that inspires defense and one that inspires strength going to be exactly the same? I think not (even if you change instruments, it is still the same melody all the same). They need variety, they need new notes.

Nakti
08-08-2006, 06:22 PM
Question: Would the developers please consider allowing more than one music file per Bard instrument, based on the 'type' of bard song that is being cast? In other words, when a bard plays a "March" , could it please sound like a March, and when he plays an "Elegy" , could it sound different than say, a "Ballad" ?
yes yes yes yes YES PLEASE!

I actually submitted this as a suggestion through POL a long time ago. Maybe if enough players want it, they might consider it.

For example, I would love to play the "chocobo" theme for Chocobo Mazurka. ^^

lionx
08-11-2006, 02:12 PM
Or they can have different instruments pop up..if i remember right like..if a Bard sings in RO different instruments pop up next to them and some orchestra appears. I really would enjoy BRD more of that was the case.

Macht
08-11-2006, 02:34 PM
That's nice that it ties into the story, but if you look at it from another point of view...

Bard's aren't playing "Memories of the Stone, the People, and the Wind" every time they're hitting a macro. They're playing "Mage's Ballad," "Blade Madrigal," "Chocobo Mazurka," and so on.

If every song had to be written around "Memories of the Stone, the People, and the Wind" to have any magic power at all, then why on earth did they become bards, masters of music, in the first place? It's like they've wasted their bard apprenticeship learning to write one song that anyone could learn how to do.

Songs are also considered Magic (In the FFXI world). Hence they possess a spiritual strength, the song is only to channel it. It's the spiritual strength within of the BRD that influences the effect of the song on the listeners. So it can be that just that song works for channeling.

That's why INT and MND play parts on some of the BRDs songs. Really though as far as the FFXI's world, the story states that song is only the true song possessing mystic power. It's even the reason why few will not dare sing it to it's actual end.