On my way through Ronfaure....

[Vair]

I've been keeping tabs on suspected Gilsellers since the ban a few weeks back. I've seen some interesting things too. And I can say one thing: They're coming back and in greater number.

I first began to notice them coming back when I was out in Quifim killing undead to burn time. I saw a Taru run by in his Starter Armor and get aggroed by a wight. So, naturally I voked it and killed it. But the strange thing is that the Taru didn't seem to take notice that I just saved his life. Curiosity overwhelming me I decided to follow him. What did I find? A whole party of subless Taru in Starter armor with a PL. I nearly staggered and went "Oh, man..." And the economy was just getting back to normal.

Over the next few weeks I noticed a party here and there. Some in the Crawler's nest, some out in Rolanberry fields. I even noticed a party of them going out to get the NIN job when I was out there doing it myself. I didn't think anything of it at first, but when I checked one of them their LS read "ttttttttttt". They seemed completly lost and they kept stopping to heal ever few feet. And while just standing there one of them threatened to call a GM on me. I couldn't help but laugh. At this point I counted about 100+

But here's the real kicker. A friend of mine wanted to go kill some Tigers at the Glaciar and me and a few others decided to tag along. So there we are in Ronfaure riding around playing the usual "Kentucky Derby" game we do and as we began to approach Rangumount Pass I hit some major lag. I'm talkin worse than Lower Jeuno. I've never hit this kind of Lag and survived before. Anyways, you get the point. My comp was slow to load them, but they all popped up eventually. At first I noticed a few Tarus running around with their flags up. But then more and more and more popped up. There had to be at least 50-60 there. This could not be an alliance for anything, it had to be gilsellers. Everyone I check had a Subjob, yes, but none of them were above level 5. It was the strangest thing. But just to make sure, I said the magic words, "[GM]{Do you need it?}" You should have seen how fast they took off. I swear to god it was the biggest train of gilsellers I've ever seen. We followed them for a bit poking fun. Eventually they scattered and all logged out. Well, we went on to Kill Tonberrys in Pso'Xja and had a good laugh about the whole thing.

Anyways, just thought I'd share this interesting occurance with the rest of you. Please keep it flame free, I'm not interested in starting any arguments. XD

[Ritual]

lmao oh if only the devs saw this thed have a fit:rofl:

[Eohmer]

50-60? yeesh...

[Vair]

50-60? yeesh...

Swear to god. XD

[Eohmer]

Sometimes I wonder what their playing environment looks like.... are they normal people like you and I in their homes, or is there like a cave in a mountain where people sit side by side wearing the same clothes for days straight? :-P

Especially now that SO MANY are showing up everywhere...

[Etra]

Sometimes I wonder what their playing environment looks like.... are they normal people like you and I in their homes, or is there like a cave in a mountain where people sit side by side wearing the same clothes for days straight? :-P

Especially now that SO MANY are showing up everywhere...
Actually, the playing environment is quite nice (for some of them). I know [not saying the name of the RMT 'company'] has a real nice all white setup with wtf awesome chairs.

But, yeah, that's insane. I woulda screenshoted it and posted it.

Edit: OMG! Maybe that's what I saw yesterday? There were these two tarutaru in all starter gear following around my PT with LFG up. They kept asking in broken English if they could join us. D:

[Ashady]

But just to make sure, I said the magic words, "[GM]{Do you need it?}" You should have seen how fast they took off. I swear to god it was the biggest train of gilsellers I've ever seen.



:rofl:

[Dadelon]

Seen the same thing in Korroloka all the time now.
1. screen names that mostly make no sense in any language.
2.10-20 of them in starter gear.
3. all lvl 20+with no sub-job
4.all mages of some sort................
I guess we all need to get ready for another inflation explosion real soon.
5. Sad!

[durecellrabbit]

I miss out on all the fun. I don't think I've ever come across a gilseller yet or at least not a chinese rank1 with no/underlevel sub and smashed keyboard name gilseller :cry:.

[Eohmer]

"[GM]{Do you need it?}" You should have seen how fast they took off.

Kinda like when you turn on the lights at night and all the roaches scatter... :-P

Double Post Edited:
with wtf awesome chairs.

I want one of those... lol

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I miss out on all the fun. I don't think I've ever come across a gilseller yet or at least not a chinese rank1 with no/underlevel sub and smashed keyboard name gilseller :cry:.

I'm really sure you have already, just hadn't noticed it. It's like an infestation now.

[fallenintoshadows]

I've never seen anything like that on Sylph but when I started playing on Levi... well.. it's just shocking really. I keep seeing the same large group of tarus (mages/starter gear/stupid names etc) with one pl, there's like 10-15 of them so no where near the number you saw but still.

They're like building an army?! When should we start panicking?

[Matera]

We don't.

My main is a Blm, so naturally I should be pissed about the upcoming nerf.

Nope.

The nerf fucks them in the ass so bad that it's not even close to funny.

[Shykin]

Bismarck gilsellers are whm, war, thf, blm, mnk, whm(or blm or war) parties. Only the wars have decent gear. I think ours are smarter. We should make a multi-server gilseller war.

[Nimrod4154]

Hahahaha, that's priceless.

[Tirrock]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Tirrock/lolgilsellers.jpg

That's just a search of rank 1's in the zone. I ran into them last night at the zone to the tunnel while I was headed to bastok. They started checking me and I told them that they should just form a LS called "RMT". ._.

[Kadenmire]

What is it that gilsellers love so much about Taru. Every time I see gilsellers they are almost all Taru. It looks funny to see big herds of mindless Taru running around in Qufim casting provoke on every thing in range. Too bad I can't MPK them like I used to.

[Murphie]

What is it that gilsellers love so much about Taru. Every time I see gilsellers they are almost all Taru. It looks funny to see big herds of mindless Taru running around in Qufim casting provoke on every thing in range. Too bad I can't MPK them like I used to.I assume it's because of the Manaburn parties.

[Saerik]

Guessing the influx is happening on all servers, whether its related to the mass banning or not idk but hopefully it is.

Had another wave of them on Seraph piling their way through the starter zones with PL's and no sense. From what i gather the partys are played by a single person, possibly 2 or 3, either on multiple machines or via illegal methods. Although i don't have anything to back that up.

Editted to add to the race thing~

They tend to pick the stereotypical race to suite whatever job that char is going to use, alot of the tank characters are Galka etc. The reason most are taru as most are due to become BLM's.

Also~ The BLM update is gonna be a real kick in the head for the mindless BLM drone armies of RMT, gonna be a hell of alot harder for them to adapt and they have been prevented from taking on higher HNM's and possibly gods for now atleast. As their previous methods just involved their BLM armys ^^

[Oogami]

I do wonder why all of them are from Bastok though.

The ones in Seraph are all Rank 1 Bastok too.

[DakAttack]

This whole problem is a big turn off. I havn't actually reached end game in my three or so years of playing, but I don't like the idea of having to buy it from people. Eventually we'll be purchasing claims because their bots will be top of the line and SE will keep their blind eyes shut.

I don't even think the economy matters anymore. Most ways of making money are dominated by gil farmers, and it seems there's some inverse ration of the value of gil compared to the value of a dollar. When the economy is good and the items are cheap, the dollar amount to purchase gil is high, and when the economy is poor and everything is expensive, the dollar amount to purchase gil is low. So even if I did have the means to waste my money like that, I'd still be screwed in the end.

I really hope SE's next MMO will take advantage of limited secondary and tertiary markets, to take the stress off of open primary markets. I think it would make a world of difference.

[ultimaknight]

I guess that explains the ten starter gear taru's I saw in Lower Jeuno yesterday with level 30 jobs without any subjob what so ever. I didn't think much of it, except they were all following a hume male as he headed towards Rolanberry Fields.

[Darkages]

hummmm gilsellers how fun i went somewhere and i saw about 10 or 15 of them eating sirt near a nm and i ran up and just killed the nm and walked off stupid gilsellers!!! being so weak i miss being able to pk them!!!!and also on my sever there is one well known gilseller about 40-50% of the sever has him blacklisted bc he runs a casino in jueno almost every day his name is.....my service drops the call......so thats why i switched to cingular wireless!!! but really his name was [B][U]rinste!!!

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Yeah I've encountered some of the noob RMTs on the Titan server this week. Twice I EXPed in East Altepa in my Taru BST, once solo and once in PT. Solo I did the BST courtesy of stealing all their giant spiders to EXP on for myself. It was fun.

When I joined up with a PT the next day, one of the galkas in this new RMT group would try to MPK us thinking last year's MPK style was still intacked. He'd provoke a dhamel and zone it near our camp.

Despawned.

Tried a scorpion.

Despawned.

Beetles.

Despawned.

Another Dhamel.

Acutally linked on to my pet and killed it, after that it... despawned, lol.

As I've said before, SE will delete them and they'll just come back with new accounts.

[Irisjir Callard]

I ran into the Midgard group of taru-armies in Dunes. It really freaked me out. They had a high-level RDM babysitting them all, though. I stared for awhile, then just kinda continued on.

And yeah, I think the gilsellers are getting very very arrogant about their activities, I mean come on, 30 of the same face, race, body size, and job all registering into the same country and getting the same linkshell on the same day? There isn't a world where that's not suspicious.

I wouldn't have beleived it a year ago, but now I'm going to grit my teeth and say that this is a slap in the face of SE, and something tells me they don't expect to get re-banned.

[Etra]

I wouldn't have beleived it a year ago, but now I'm going to grit my teeth and say that this is a slap in the face of SE, and something tells me they don't expect to get re-banned.
Yep...A year ago I would have reported every single RMT I found. Now, it's just like, "Oh, there goes a herd of RMTs.../walks off."

That's just sad. :s

[Jekk]

I don't really pay attention to gil sellers, but I will now. I actually need to go to Bastok to raise Alchemy, so while I'm there I'll search Rank 1s.

It really does scare me though :| they're taking over FFXI, it's just going to get worse.

[Kadenmire]

Don't the gilsellers know it is a self destructive cycle they have started? The more RL players they push out of the game the fewer profits Sqare is making which in the end will cause the total shut down of FFXI and the gilsellers market as well.

[Saerik]

Whence they will move on to another MMORPG.

[Herrisa]

Like somebody mentioned above RMT is like a cockroach infestation. Once their source of food (money) is gone, they'll just move on to another MMORPG and start the cycle all over again.

It's very disheartening. :/

[Kamui]

Well, it's not like we can just sit around and do nothing about it. That aside, I have been seeing PTs of these RMT people as well on Diabolos. Leveling RNG for my COR's SJ, I saw about 4-5 groups of these people :/ All without linkshells, very few with subjobs, and in starter gear or very poor gear. Recently I saw one of the groups had gotten a neon red linkshell...never checked to see the name, though. And yeah, most of the groups had a PL of some sort...
It's sort of funny. First you used to have to watch for the names, such as Diabolos used to have the Xables. Now they all just seem to group together, which personally, I think is a bigger red flag than the names.

I really hope SE develops some way to fix this, if not for the GMs to do, but for normal players as well. It'll be impossible to clear them out permanently, so there has to be some sort of system, like if they get a certain amount of calls against a person in a period of time, they're banned, but only if the calls are made by reliable and honest people....
Sort of like having server-selected moderators that works something like the mentor system.
I always thought it would be better to have GMs for specifically one server :/ Would help them understand things more, because each server varies in their HNM LSs, whatever else.
And besides. Let them get to 50, then delete their characters. Keeps them occupied for a while before they can actually do anything harmful, then they have the joy of starting all over again. And again. And again.

[Jinjo]

There are ways to grief them, the other day I found a group of 5 people being power leveled by a notoriously known gilseller, it was 3 BLM and 2 NIN in yuhtunga wearing gear just barely above starting armor... I went into Kazham changed to RDM/PLD, ran outside, cast Blaze Spikes and started healing the NINs, when the mandies hit me spikes would do damage and they would say hello to 0 exp. The PL and one of the NINs tried to talk to me in broken english, they tried to turn blockaid on, but they couldn't actually manage battles by themselves without the PL so when one would be close to death they'd turn it off and I'd hit Cure 4, then Sentinel and take hate. Eventually all but one of the NINs and PL logged off and they called a GM on me, GM didn't send me to jail all he said was, "I know they're probably RMT, but what you're doing is griefing and against the ToS." So I was forced to stop >.>

Most aren't brave enough to call GM like that, I know in sky There's an all BLM LS that camped Despot 24/7 (They stopped recently, I think all of them had west gems, they had 15 last i counted) They'd pull all the groundskeepers from the walls sleep then -ga nuke until dead... After the first -ga goes off we would cast diaga. They never talk or anything to us, it became a game of who could kill the most gilsellers each pull, 10 points a BLM, 30 points for one of the 2 PLDs(the pullers).

[Kamui]

There are ways to grief them, the other day I found a group of 5 people being power leveled by a notoriously known gilseller, it was 3 BLM and 2 NIN in yuhtunga wearing gear just barely above starting armor... I went into Kazham changed to RDM/PLD, ran outside, cast Blaze Spikes and started healing the NINs, when the mandies hit me spikes would do damage and they would say hello to 0 exp. The PL and one of the NINs tried to talk to me in broken english, they tried to turn blockaid on, but they couldn't actually manage battles by themselves without the PL so when one would be close to death they'd turn it off and I'd hit Cure 4, then Sentinel and take hate. Eventually all but one of the NINs and PL logged off and they called a GM on me, GM didn't send me to jail all he said was, "I know they're probably RMT, but what you're doing is griefing and against the ToS." So I was forced to stop >.>


Hahaha...that's quite brilliant. I'll have to try that myself sometime....

[Theyaden]

I really hope SE develops some way to fix this, if not for the GMs to do, but for normal players as well. It'll be impossible to clear them out permanently, so there has to be some sort of system, like if they get a certain amount of calls against a person in a period of time, they're banned, but only if the calls are made by reliable and honest people....

We'ld have no HNM shells inside of a week with how much fighting goes on over some of the gods :+D and differing groups complaing about holding, stealing, exc


Sort of like having server-selected moderators that works something like the mentor system.
I always thought it would be better to have GMs for specifically one server :/ Would help them understand things more, because each server varies in their HNM LSs, whatever else.
And besides. Let them get to 50, then delete their characters. Keeps them occupied for a while before they can actually do anything harmful, then they have the joy of starting all over again. And again. And again.

This I do agree with I don't know what their staffing is otherwise I'ld put a rough idea of where I think the breakdown would be good. Taking what they have and setting senior GM's and all normal GM's not attached to a specific server as roaming. Have a set # devoted to each server, but not enough to take the normal volume of that server by themselves this way you have the majority of your force available to hop servers avoiding waisted workforce on days that certain servers are busy while others are slow.
(example if you had 10 servers and 17 GM's you'ld dedicate one GM to each server and have the remaining 7 roam where needed)
I love the idea of nailing them after enough work is put in to get to 50. Not to mention the company has to get another registration key for each gillseller shot down which does add up if you run into mass bannings and keeping tabs on which names are in the same pt with them.

[fiercedeity]

this is happening on shiva too, i reported it to a GM. but they wont do anything about it.

try this on you're server to count all the new RMT: /sea all level 20-75 rank 1
all the ones without a sub are almost garenteed to be a gil seller.

[Matera]

Most aren't brave enough to call GM like that, I know in sky There's an all BLM LS that camped Despot 24/7 (They stopped recently, I think all of them had west gems, they had 15 last i counted) They'd pull all the groundskeepers from the walls sleep then -ga nuke until dead... After the first -ga goes off we would cast diaga. They never talk or anything to us, it became a game of who could kill the most gilsellers each pull, 10 points a BLM, 30 points for one of the 2 PLDs(the pullers).

Thank god for the new Blm patch.

A group of similarily named, identically equiped Tarus was camping Despot Wednesday against my LS. We puta couple of people at the spawn to help us claim, but they got it anyways. They nuked it, and dropped one by one, then when 4 were left, our thief used Steal to claim. :)

[Irisjir Callard]

Everyone seems to be so hot on the problem for gilsellers, but there's a peculiar silence onht e other side of the coin.

We can all recognize a RMT solo or in a group, they have so many dog-ears and markers. Did you ever stop to think about the REASON they let themselves be so obvious?

Myself, I think it's a way to draw in customers. I KNOW most gil is bought through 3rd party sites, the banner links on most FFXI forums, ebay, other similar sites...but I think by letting themselves be seen, so blatantly and in such numbers, is a more insidious form of advertising.

"We are here, and we have the gil...you gonna buy or not?"


Which leads one on to consider....

Who exactly are they advertising to?

Myself, I pity the gilsellers. What we consider relaxation, is their job. They probably don't even get a lunch break. Admit it, if you were chained to a desk for forty hours a week, doing what some OTHER person instructed you to, you wouldn't enjoy FFXI much at all.

I don't intend to go inviting them to EXP and helping them with rank missions, but I do feel sorry for the individuals behind the screen.

No, the ones I blame, the people I truly hate with an undeniable seething passion, the ones I want to be able to identify, single out, and would take indescribeable near-orgasmic pleasure from individually blacklisting every single one of them, is the gil buyers.

THEY are the reason the sellers are here.

THEY are the ones who can't get over "omgwtf must have this item..."

THEY are the ones that drive the economy to ruin, when such a thing as an item that costs 14 mil to begin with "isn't good enough" and the high quality version is considered a must-have...

THEY are the ones with the unhealthy obsession.

THEY are the ones trying to use false ego to cover up their own deep-seated insecurities and incompetence.






And I'm willing to bet money I know how to identify them.

I'm willing to bet my good-enough-for-me NQ crow jupon and my good-enough-for-me NQ dark staff and ALL MY OTHER GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME GEAR that it's the 'eletists'.

The people in my last party who thought my dark staff wasn't good enough because it was just a dark staff, not a pluto's staff.


FOR A WHITEMAGE?

Honestly. There's no additional hMP. I don't melee with it. If I'm standing up, I have my light staff equipped so it's not like ONE MORE MIND is going to be a huge affect.

I'd lay my bottom gil he was a gilbuyer.


Oh and the really funny thing...he bitched about my NQ dark staff, but he didn't say a peep about my NQ light staff.

He did complain that I had a light staff and not a healing staff.

I asked him if I'd run out of MP yet, and he said no. So then I asked how having fifty more MP would help, if I didn't need what I already had. He never answered. I considered mentioning that the healing staff had even less MND+ than NQ light staff, but I decided to drop it...


Oh and yes, as BLM, he had all eight HQ staves (of which four were in his bazzar not even getting used) (Including the one with elemental skill +10). He was using plutos, vulcans, whatever hte thunder one is, and I forget the fourth.


But my bottom line is, I want to see the BUYERS flagged. Without buyers, gilsellers are a minor annoyance. It's the buyers that give them their power.

[Zamphire]

As I've admitted I was one of the people banned in that 2k banning last weekend for cheating. I've been watching lots of hacker forums and from what I've noticed, not one RMT got banned, I know none of them did from my server.

[Meatproduct]

Yeah, I was playing thru Qufim as my Ninja last week, a day didnt go by without
seeing a full party of subless tarus in starting RSE. Although the economy hasn't changed much on my server, maybe the gilsellers aren't getting anywhere.

[Lakai]

Everyone seems to be so hot on the problem for gilsellers, but there's a peculiar silence onht e other side of the coin.

We can all recognize a RMT solo or in a group, they have so many dog-ears and markers. Did you ever stop to think about the REASON they let themselves be so obvious?

Myself, I think it's a way to draw in customers. I KNOW most gil is bought through 3rd party sites, the banner links on most FFXI forums, ebay, other similar sites...but I think by letting themselves be seen, so blatantly and in such numbers, is a more insidious form of advertising.

"We are here, and we have the gil...you gonna buy or not?"


Which leads one on to consider....

Who exactly are they advertising to?

Myself, I pity the gilsellers. What we consider relaxation, is their job. They probably don't even get a lunch break. Admit it, if you were chained to a desk for forty hours a week, doing what some OTHER person instructed you to, you wouldn't enjoy FFXI much at all.

I don't intend to go inviting them to EXP and helping them with rank missions, but I do feel sorry for the individuals behind the screen.

No, the ones I blame, the people I truly hate with an undeniable seething passion, the ones I want to be able to identify, single out, and would take indescribeable near-orgasmic pleasure from individually blacklisting every single one of them, is the gil buyers.

THEY are the reason the sellers are here.

THEY are the ones who can't get over "omgwtf must have this item..."

THEY are the ones that drive the economy to ruin, when such a thing as an item that costs 14 mil to begin with "isn't good enough" and the high quality version is considered a must-have...

THEY are the ones with the unhealthy obsession.

THEY are the ones trying to use false ego to cover up their own deep-seated insecurities and incompetence.






And I'm willing to bet money I know how to identify them.

I'm willing to bet my good-enough-for-me NQ crow jupon and my good-enough-for-me NQ dark staff and ALL MY OTHER GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME GEAR that it's the 'eletists'.

The people in my last party who thought my dark staff wasn't good enough because it was just a dark staff, not a pluto's staff.


FOR A WHITEMAGE?

Honestly. There's no additional hMP. I don't melee with it. If I'm standing up, I have my light staff equipped so it's not like ONE MORE MIND is going to be a huge affect.

I'd lay my bottom gil he was a gilbuyer.


Oh and the really funny thing...he bitched about my NQ dark staff, but he didn't say a peep about my NQ light staff.

He did complain that I had a light staff and not a healing staff.

I asked him if I'd run out of MP yet, and he said no. So then I asked how having fifty more MP would help, if I didn't need what I already had. He never answered. I considered mentioning that the healing staff had even less MND+ than NQ light staff, but I decided to drop it...


Oh and yes, as BLM, he had all eight HQ staves (of which four were in his bazzar not even getting used) (Including the one with elemental skill +10). He was using plutos, vulcans, whatever hte thunder one is, and I forget the fourth.


But my bottom line is, I want to see the BUYERS flagged. Without buyers, gilsellers are a minor annoyance. It's the buyers that give them their power.


Yeah but not every person who is an elitist gets their gil from RMT obviously enough. The people that do buy gil are usually pretty easy to spot because they have good gear, but they still suck at playing their job. I've seen this plenty of times where the person thinks they have such good gear they don't really need to do anything but sit there and let their gear work for them. But hey theres apples and oranges for every situation and stereotype to begin with I suppose. I think the only way to really end RMT in this game and bring the economy back down at this point is to kind of make this games item system similar to WoW's wich that didn't completely stop RMT(but it made things alot better then what we have been dealing with IMO); I like though that items bind to you when you equip them, no more RMTs camping OCHY kote, and then using them whiel they have them.... then selling them when they get to jeuno. Plus make it a unique item, only one in your inv at a time, stops hording items. Also maybe implement some of the commonly camped equipment NMS to "bind when picked up". Don't get me wrong I'm not saying ffxi is worse then wow or anything of that nature, but after playing both I definitely think that WoW is much more protected against RMT problems when it comes to equipping your character and making money, others probably disagree though. Anyway theres my 2cents :)

[Aeni]

this is happening on shiva too, i reported it to a GM. but they wont do anything about it.

try this on you're server to count all the new RMT: /sea all level 20-75 rank 1
all the ones without a sub are almost garenteed to be a gil seller.

Not really. A group of new players just figured out how to make yourself subjobless with a trick and abused it in Rabao. You'd search and find them, reasonble sounding names, some of them low ranked and no subjobs at 40...

[Macht]

Yeah, well on a side note I totally ripped a friend of mine a new one when I found out he was buying gil. Especially since he was with me complaining on how all these gilsellers were getting in our way. Told the idiot it was his fault for that.

As for the 2k banned they said specifically it was for those who speed hacked. If a gilseller didn't get banned it is because he didn't speedhack. See issue with banning RMT is definitive proof, you can look for markers and indicators all day long but none of it is definitive proof.

As for their such huge masses, all I can figure out of it is that likely the gilsellers are being caught so they are trying to run illegal alien tactics in crossing a boarder. You flood it with huge numbers, less likely for the law to catch all of them. What's funny though is if the database and record keeping is good enough, this tactic will eventually fail misserably. Of course due to the obvious methods of spotting potential RMT like people here have done.

Creates a nice list for them to work on, then trace back IPs find common sources and then proof definitivly that even 1 is a gillseller and likely to knock out a huge group.

[Kadenmire]

What about bots. I see more and more every day and they are obvious why don't the GMs do somthing about them?:angry:

[Eohmer]

Not really. A group of new players just figured out how to make yourself subjobless

o.O

[Tedz]

iv saw nothing on phoenix sespicous yet though my freind was campin a NM and the mob was lottery spawnd and every time it was gonna spawn thr gill seller would flee to a dirent place all the time and the NM would pop were he went. it was sad for my friend he camped the NM for 8 hours and the gill seller got it all the time

[Kamui]

No, the ones I blame, the people I truly hate with an undeniable seething passion, the ones I want to be able to identify, single out, and would take indescribeable near-orgasmic pleasure from individually blacklisting every single one of them, is the gil buyers.

THEY are the reason the sellers are here.

THEY are the ones who can't get over "omgwtf must have this item..."

THEY are the ones that drive the economy to ruin, when such a thing as an item that costs 14 mil to begin with "isn't good enough" and the high quality version is considered a must-have...

THEY are the ones with the unhealthy obsession.

THEY are the ones trying to use false ego to cover up their own deep-seated insecurities and incompetence.



I have to admit, your are very right. The gil sellers will keep coming back as long as their fish are biting...

There's someone in my social LS that I want to pin sooo badly. One day, he told us he got all the items for Excalibur, he was only missing the rare/ex items.
Good for him, right? Cheers and all that.
He was only Lv40 at the time.
I asked him how he got all his money, and he said he farmed ALOT (which I never recall him /ever/ farming.)
That same day, later someone was saying how they never have time for FFXI anymore because they were too busy with IRL things... and the same person said "Yeah, I'm always too busy to play too."
Oohhh I wanted to get him so bad... But before then, he had always seemed like a decent guy. He did farm, at some point, when I first joined the LS and he was always with us doing missions and such...
Come to think of it, lately, that whole LS has been acting strange...>.>
What was I here for?
Oh yeah. COR info. *wanders away*

[Shanisasha]

The fun part is when you try to help a friend with their LB1 paper and you have to fight against 50 Rank 1s, few of them with a subjob, all in crap gear, and all with names generated by the monkey-smash-keyboard method.

We did end up getting paper, got a second, too (always happens) and gave it to another player that had been in Eldieme forever competing for Lichs.

[avhmia]

He did complain that I had a light staff and not a healing staff.

Say what now? No comment on that person being a gilbuyer or not, but what an idiot. That just screams of "OMG HEELING STAF COSTS 5M MORE TAHN LITE STAF SO IT MSUT B BETTAR!1!" What use is a healing staff outside of a max mp build for starting some big fight?

As for the new breed of gillies, I dunno. I get the impression that they're actually new to FFXI. Maybe some new shop has just opened up, or it's just decided to finally tap in to the FFXI market. They don't behave at all like the "older" gillies we've come to know and love. :/