Feeling the Corsair sting

[Ahinjel]

I don't know if its just bad timing, bad luck, or a fluke, but as late I'v noticed something. Getting PT invites has declined for me, rapidly. Then I did some checking, and for each level range I was in, I noticed there would be 1-2 BRDs online, compared to maybe the 5-7 Corsairs. And it was the Corsair's who were in the PT's. From the time I started my BRD job, I heard the same thing from my LS over and over, "It's so easy to lvl BRD, you'll get PT invites to the point you'll be going ANON"...that, has yet to happen heh. It's not the reason I started playing a BRD to begin w/, ya the proposition of getting into party's is always a nice perk, but I just genuinely like the job. I'm not sitting in the same spot hitting the same button(s) over and over. I get to move around an do it! =p

Seriously though, have any of you other guys/gals noticed this? Or, like I said, is i just me? I thought maybe I was doing something wrong in PT's and was getting a bad rep, so I checked w/each PT I did get, to make sure everyone was happy and satisfied w/the job I was doing, and they were, even got a few friend invites out of it....but that's where it started and stopped. /sigh.. I dunno, maybe I hit a dry spell in PT's. But I went thru this kinda thing on my THF way back when, ugh, no way I can go thru that again.

[Icemage]

Things should pick up for you once you hit level 55. Corsairs can offer +hMP and MP regeneration, which makes them very potent, but they lack the ability to Dispel/Finale buffs, which is one of the other reasons RDMs and BRDs get invited.

Until then, struggle on as best you can - make your own parties. :P Trust me, people tend not to turn down party invites when they see it's a bard inviting them.


Icemage

[Ahinjel]

Ya, have been doing that, when I can find a WHM and NIN/PLD. I've noticed something else though, compared to when I first played, PLD's are don't seem to be as common in PT's as they use to. I remember when they were literally /shouting for PT's in Jeuno. Also, the NIN's that I've been in PT's with, are using their Ninjitsu skills to my extreme delight. Before, you'd hardly ever see one using it. Definitely a good change, but I do miss PTing w/PLDs.

Also, its good to see your still around Icemage, not sure if you remember me or not(I use to post on the WHM boards). But you were always someone I could count on for giving good tips and advice. I forget the other WHM, she was German(and rather cute lol), the 2 of you really pushed me to get my WHM to 70+ for Dynamis. Anyway, good to see you, hope all has been well for you. Thx again for the encouragment.

Z

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Its not COR, its COR and RDM getting the edge on BRD because of Evoker's Roll and Refresh post 40 and pre-Ballad II. I experienced this lull as well back in my BRD days. Just stick with it, you'll still get through it.

[Wanta]

COR has no debuffs, no sleep, no dispel. They are NO replacement for RDM or BRD.

[Zamphire]

COR has no debuffs, no sleep, no dispel. They are NO replacement for RDM or BRD.

Actually, they very well can be replacments for Bards. With the addition of the new area you can go from 1-75 without ever needing dispel.

[Murphie]

What new area allows you to go from 1-75?

[Ziero]

What cors lack in debuffs they make up for in raw dmg so I can see them replacing a Brd. But in certain pts set ups (war/ninx4+Rdm) Brd can't be beat. There's also the fact that a Brd can be constantly pulling even while the pt is still fighting. If you get a good pt that kills mobs fast and doesn't need constant attention maybe you should try the pull > sleep trick. Even in the 40s this thing works great as I've seen first hand. While lvling my nin 39-41 we had a galka Brd for a short period of time. From the moment he showed up to the moment he d/ced all he did was buff then pull. Never stopped, didn't talk (though he was JP) just pulled pulled pulled. It was awesome EXP. @_@

[Ellipses]

What new area allows you to go from 1-75?
I'd guess he means you can use existing leveling areas without needing dispel until you get to ToAU levels (58ish?).

[Murphie]

I figured. But you get Dispel and Finale considerably earlier than that. And I don't know about anyone else, but I've found them pretty useful right away. If there are some great mobs out there that don't require Dispel, I'd love to hear about them.

[Ellipses]

Well, post-dispel? I've had parties that took out Crawlers, Dhalmels, Bats, Scorpions, Funguars and Spiders without a lot of problems. Crawlers can be a bit rough, but they're still squishy even with Coccoon.

It's not that going from Dispel/Finale - 75 without ever having a party with one of the two is a great idea, but if you can't find a RDM or BRD, it doesn't mean you can't level.

[Murphie]

Oh absolutely. But if the spell is out there, and there are RDMs and/or BRDs available, I don't see why I wouldn't grab one. So it's not like COR is really a replacement for either of them, which is the whole point of this thread. Or so I thought. I get confused easily. :/

[Mhurron]

Actually, they very well can be replacments for Bards. With the addition of the new area you can go from 1-75 without ever needing dispel.COR has no debuffs, no sleep, no dispel.Well you hit one out of three. Personally, I wouldn't invite a COR over a BRD.

[Wanta]

Actually, they very well can be replacments for Bards. With the addition of the new area you can go from 1-75 without ever needing dispel.
Also without Sleep/Lullaby? Nuh-uh. COR is a nice addition to a party with a RDM or BRD, not a replacement.

By the way, have fun leveling 1-58 in Aht Urhgan.

[Ellipses]

I don't think it's a case of a BRD or RDM seeking and a COR being picked over them (except maybe based on reputation or LS-member-iness or something). But when none of the three are seeking, it used to be that people would wait on a BRD or RDM to start a party, or fill their party out. Now there's a third job that people are taking instead. So by the time RandomBRD39 logs in, some of the people who would've been waiting on a BRD or RDM have already grabbed a COR and gone off.

41-55 is a bit slower to begin with, and that just adds to it. Just because y'all might wait for a RDM or BRD doesn't mean everyone will. Hell, I wouldn't. BLM and WHM have debuffs and sleep, too. It's almost like they're mages or something! And then there's BLU in the mix, now, too.

[Zamphire]

1-10~12 Respective newb leveling according to city
10-20 Valkrum
20-25 Qufim
25-27 Jungel 1
27-30 Jungel 2
30-32 Weapons in Saramung.
32-35 Easteran Altep, Garliage Citidal
35-37 Behemoths Dominion on bats
38-40 Second Teir Gobs or Gustav Tunnel
40-43 Western Altep on beetles (Bettles can be dispelled, but easily killable without it)
43-47 QUicksand caves off Ants, Spiders, and beetles (PLD Ants hard to kill without dispel but you can easily avoid them)
47-50 Garliage Citidal in basment
50-55 Helm Beetles in Crawlers Nest
55-60 Lesser Colobris in wajoom
60-62 Puk in Wajoom
62-65 Aydeewa Subterrane on the Aydeewa Diremite
65-67 Bibiki Bay Catoblepas/1st-tier Hobgoblin
67-72 Bhaflau Thickets Marid/Chigoe
70-75 Bhaflau Thickets Sea Puk/Mamool Ja/Jurik

Not one camp that absolutly requires Dispel. And there are many more like this. And best of all, no fucking crabs. Man I hate crabs.

[silentsteel]

Sry, not to bash you or anything, but the spelling hurts my eyes. >.<;;

I think that Cor is a welcome addition to pts when no brd or rdm is seeking, even then sometimes, depending on the mobs & the pt set up, a person might want to pick the cor over brd/rdm, idk, prolly not, I have yet to get any of them really high.

[Wanta]

Beetles' rhino guard is a bloody pain in the butt.

Weapons is Sauromugue? Those are RDM types and have like 10 buffs on them when you pull them including blink, stoneskin, protect and regen. Only a group of masochists takes those on without dispel.

Other than that, yeah a lot of those work without dispel, but most of them are usually disgustingly overcrowded.

[Zamphire]

Umm... what job has dispel at 30? I've killed them many many times without dispel.

Yea, Rhino Guard sucks, but can be over come easily with a BLU or as BLM in the party. Or even really good ACC gear