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Ashady
07-16-2006, 01:06 PM
Hi there!

I just ordered the game today and should get it in soon, i was wondering stuff about the game, (mostly everything, the official web page doesnt explain much) Im an old EQ and EQ2 player and was looking for somthing new.

Any ideas on what servers are good for new players and what class would be easy enough to start out in? Im reading through the new players post now (its GREAT)

Thanks!
-Ashady

Double Post Edited:
Ohm, and i was reading somthing about nine hours to get it form retail to start playing? im hoping that was an old thread or somthing :|

Shopee
07-16-2006, 01:15 PM
what class would be easy enough to start out in? Im reading through the new players post now (its GREAT)

Double Post Edited:
Ohm, and i was reading somthing about nine hours to get it form retail to start playing? im hoping that was an old thread or somthing :|

Glad to have you on board (well, right now you're packing and preparing to board, but you are, for all intents and purposes, boarded).

I wouldn't go for the easy class to start in, I'd go for one you'd be more likely to enjoy playing. The starting levels (1-10) have little bearing on the rest of the game. The starting party levels (11-20) don't really have an easiest class, only classes that fit some people's tastes.

Best thing to do is ask what you liked playing in EQ/EQ 2. While you are looking for something new, there may be a play style or flavor you prefer, and it would be good to try and go for that.

(I've never heard issues about nine hours to set up, but if you have a slow connection that might happen when downloading updates).

Ashady
07-16-2006, 01:18 PM
I didnt really mean an easy class, I meant more along the lines of a class that isnt unbalanced or one that is extreamly hard to play

At the moment im thinking about a black mage or a monk

Zamphire
07-16-2006, 01:18 PM
Well, you don't get to choose your server so you'll just be put where they want you. Also, if your looking for a fun class I'd go with monk or war, maybe thf. If you're looking for a job that gets parties easy, try WHM, maybe BLM. And yea, if you're on dial up, it takes forever to download the updates, but if your on broadband, hour, two tops.

Shopee
07-16-2006, 01:19 PM
I didnt really mean an easy class, I meant more along the lines of a class that isnt unbalanced or one that is extreamly hard to play

When you start off, there aren't any classes that really fit this description fortunately =)

At the moment im thinking about a black mage or a monk

Sounds good. And remember: you can always switch classes.

Ashady
07-16-2006, 01:19 PM
You dont get to choose your server? thats odd, i was wondering about that buddy program thing.

Matera
07-16-2006, 01:39 PM
Well, if you get a world pass, you can choose your server, but for all intensive purposes, they're the same.

Shopee
07-16-2006, 01:42 PM
Well, if you get a world pass, you can choose your server, but for all intensive purposes, they're the same.

What about more casual, less focused purposes ;)

(The phrase you seek is "All intents and purposes")

DakAttack
07-16-2006, 01:45 PM
Seraph prices are low now, so if you'd like to join up I can find you a pass.

All jobs have places where they shine and other places where they don't shine so well, so I'd suggest picking a job you'd have more fun with. Look around in the forums here for some information on each one.

Shopee
07-16-2006, 01:49 PM
Just as a warning, if someone on Seraph informs you you are partying with "RMT" or "Gilsellers", leave the party.

There is a list of all people thought to be RMT or Gilsellers, and those that wilfully and knowingly associate with them. The writer of The List encourages the people of Seraph to avoid/ignore/other generally negative verbs those on The List.

You don't want that to happen.

(I am not discussing The List here, nor attempting to state anything other than the facts, if you try to start something I will ignore you.)

Hamlet
07-16-2006, 01:53 PM
What about more casual, less focused purposes ;)

(The phrase you seek is "All intents and purposes")

Actually, "all intensive purposes" makes sense, although it's slightly redundant. But, then again, "all intents and purposes" is probably even more redundant, although yeah, you're right, it's the common phrase.

Server choice really doesn't matter and it's SE's way of balancing them out. When a new player joins, it puts you on the lowest population server. But, if for some reason (you have friends on a server), there's a need to join a server, you can using the buddy passes. But if you're just starting out, there's no reason to pick one over another. Prices may be low, but that just means the stuff you sell will sell for less.

Ashady
07-16-2006, 01:56 PM
Alright guys, thanks for the tips! keep them coming! :D

Im already having withdrawals from the game and I havn't even played yet :|

Hamlet
07-16-2006, 01:59 PM
Alright guys, thanks for the tips! keep them coming! :D

Im already having withdrawals from the game and I havn't even played yet :|

lol, that's a bad sign.

Shopee
07-16-2006, 02:01 PM
Im already having withdrawals from the game and I havn't even played yet :|

I'd hate to see your Evercrack withdrawals :P

Ashady
07-16-2006, 02:05 PM
Lol I played it, then i tryed to go back, and i hated it... no evercrack withdrawals from me!!

And i was a casual player there, only got to level 55 49 and 25 within 3 years :|

With that said, what do you get when leveling up? How fast is it to level up in this game?

Shopee
07-16-2006, 02:12 PM
With that said, what do you get when leveling up?

New abilities (Activated or Passive), New Spells* (if your class casts them), stat increases and the ability to wear better gear.

*- You must buy scrolls for spells. Use it to learn the spell, and your character will know it (but not necessarily be able to cast it, depending on what class you are currently using) forever and always.

How fast is it to level up in this game?

It depends on the quality of your parties. Either very fast, or very slow.

I also find that in this, getting into that flow where you lost track of time is very easy in an effective and efficient party, so often times it seems even quicker.

Also:

Race will never prevent you from playing your job as effectively as the next Joe. Race changes where you might want to focus your equipment in some cases (Galka Mages will want MP+ gear), but overall your choice in race won't have a large impact on how effectively you play.

Skill > equipment > race is the typical inequality used to express this.

Ashady
07-16-2006, 02:16 PM
Skill > all? im liking that!!!! EQ2 was just WAY too easy.

So it looks like that spell system is the same as EQs, works for me.

And it seems this games community is VERY good :D thanks guys and gals.

Ah yeah and im in belgium, will that effect lag or does lag not matter? I already know the populations will be lower at my high time but I can deal with that.

Shopee
07-16-2006, 02:19 PM
Skill > all? im liking that!!!!

I like it too.

I'm sure this is already obvious, but quantity can sometimes overtake quality.
If you have crap gear it can override whatever skill you may have.

Ah yeah and im in belgium, will that effect lag or does lag not matter? I already know the populations will be lower at my high time but I can deal with that.

Nope. Lag is hardly ever an issue as far as I am aware. People with 56k connections according to all accounts I have heard can run the game fine, so I'm sure your location will have little effect on how smooth it runs.

Ashady
07-16-2006, 02:20 PM
Yeah, thats a basic for all MMOs

And whats the Gil thing on the side here for? <<

Shopee
07-16-2006, 02:22 PM
It increases by 15 per post (if I count properly), and you can donate it to people.

Also, I think it may increase upon receiving a rate up (or decrease on rate down), though I am not sure.

I actually have questions about it myself, but I haven't felt the need to ask. I'm rather unsure about any other purpose it may have (and I notice people with many posts will have it drop rather suddenly to low levels. I am unsure if this is from donation, or something else).

Ashady
07-16-2006, 02:40 PM
And also sence im in belgium, it will take me about a week to get the game, i forsee lots of reading and posting here in the mean time :D

Double Post Edited:
And Crafting, ive read the posts on it, but is it a EQ styple crafter, or an EQ2 style? where in EQ1 you put items in a box and click, or EQ2 where you have to fend of bad htings while doing so

Aeolus
07-16-2006, 02:47 PM
You select a crystal then a window shows up where you place ingredients to craft. I believe you can get aggro from monsters and fail the synth tho. Bats that normally would aggro didnt aggro me the other day tho.

Shopee
07-16-2006, 02:49 PM
I believe you can get aggro from monsters and fail the synth tho. Bats that normally would aggro didnt aggro me the other day tho.


Actually in EQ 2, the "bad things" are chemical imbalances, extra-soft sections of metal or other flaws in the being-crafted-items as opposed to monsters (just to clarify)

Ashady
07-16-2006, 03:14 PM
At least i have an eve online trial to hold me down untill it gets here :|

soonk
07-16-2006, 05:53 PM
this game will take over your life,,, read the warning carefully each time you start it up =)

Shopee
07-16-2006, 05:55 PM
this game will take over your life,,, read the warning carefully each time you start it up =)

Yes.

It has to specifically warn you in writing not to let it take over your life ;)

It'll either hook you or you won't like it and quit. There isn't much of a middle ground that I've seen so far.

Ashady
07-17-2006, 01:23 AM
:)

So how are the newbie areas, are they completly empty? or are they middle group or completly packed? (unlikly)

Murphie
07-17-2006, 01:33 AM
They are moderately busy. People are leveling new jobs all the time, even if they aren't new players (since you play all jobs on one character, you'll find yourself in the newbie areas a lot).

Zamphire
07-17-2006, 08:16 AM
I'd say down right packed at time, it's hard to find a place to camp 90% of the time.