wow the auctions are expensive

[Aeronus]

Why is every thing in the auctions expensive. Im finally lv 10 and i need to upgrade my amour and stuff, and i dont even know how thats possable when its like 2,000 just for a onion sword.

[Aeolus]

By lv 10 you can make 100-200k from crystals alone on the AH. You can buy w/e you want. If you havnt bothered to make cash this way buy from shops around the town, venders will sell stuff for 100-1000gil for lv10 stuff, its real cheap.

[Mazon]

More often than not, you can find most of the equipment you need at NPC's throughout the starting cities Bastok, San dOria, Windurst.

You just need to know who sells what, where and how much.

For this: http://ffxi.somepage.com/

You will usually end up paying more on the Auction House than at an NPC shop.
If there is gear in another starting city that you can't get to, you may consider creating a mule in each of the other two starting cities. You'll end up needing them later.

[Aeronus]

Where do i get crystals from.

[Aeolus]

Killing monsters with signet on. Signet can be casted on you by any of the gate gaurds with names ending in I.M (Iron Musketeer).

[Linra]

By lv 10 you can make 100-200k from crystals alone on the AH. You can buy w/e you want. If you havnt bothered to make cash this way buy from shops around the town, venders will sell stuff for 100-1000gil for lv10 stuff, its real cheap.

When you say 100-200k... was that a typo for 1,000-2,000... or do you really mean 1,000,000-2,000,000? Because if you do... I'm going crystal farming...

[Aeolus]

1ook is 1oo,ooo not 1oo,ooo,ooo.

[Linra]

1ook is 1oo,ooo not 1oo,ooo,ooo.
I work the night shift, I just got home from work, I should be in bed, leave me alone ;.;

But really is 100k-200k true?

[Aeolus]

Yes, made 200k on crystals on my new char then I changed race and did it again. Im lv29 sitting ontop of about 2mil and my equip is pretty pimped as well. Moneys not that hard too make.

[Linra]

Okay thank you, I think I'll try leveling a few low jobs and see how it works out for me. ^^

[GereOfRemora]

Whenever possible buy everything from npcs and sell everything on the ah.

[Shopee]

Okay thank you, I think I'll try leveling a few low jobs and see how it works out for me. ^^

Lemme know how that goes.

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[Mhurron]

I work the night shift, I just got home from work, I should be in bed, leave me alone ;.;

But really is 100k-200k true?If you know what your doing probably. A completely new player won't make that though.

New Player != New Character

To the OP, since a lot of at least your low levels will be funded by farming, you need to find what drops in areas that you can safely farm that is worth while.

In Bastok, you have bees which drop beehive chips
In San d'Oria there are Funguars that drop sleepshrooms, bunnies for rabbit hides
In Windurst, there's bees and bunnies and crawlers for silk (low drop rate)

Since you're around lvl 10 you can still get EXP from them so with Signet on you can also get Crystals to drop. You'll also still get Beastmen's Seals which can help you make gil farther on down the road.

[Tirrock]

If you know what you're doing and you're trying to farm up crystals (and beastmen seals at the same time), then I could see 100k-200k on the way to level 10.

San - Fire/Dark/Lightning crystals - Orcs/Lizards/Goblins (some dropping lightning)/Fungar.

I never really tried doing it anywhere else. Windurst doesn't seem too good for crystal farming. Mostly water/earth/wind, save for goblins. Bastok could be good if the lizards there drop fire crystals, although I keep thinking that they drop earth... Otherwise it's just goblins for crystals too.

[durecellrabbit]

It's mainly earth crystals in Bastok and some wind as well. I was only getting 100gil per stack of earth crystals when I started, so you don't always get a lot of money from them.

[Nakti]

Compare prices from NPC vendors vs. the Auction House.

At your level, you shouldn't need to buy expensive items from the AH. And there isn't any reason for you to buy an Onion anything right now (people buy those for a quest that you can get later on).

[Moaku Hyena]

Wow. This is info I could have used a long time ago. I have trouble making past 10-20k a day. o_O;
Now I suppose I can just farm stuff while LFG.

[DakAttack]

It's impossible to make money from crystals anymore, the newer Xbox players have flooded the market. Everybody is going for less than 3k a stack, when most went for more than 5k a stack.

[Mog]

Wow. This is info I could have used a long time ago. I have trouble making past 10-20k a day. o_O;
Now I suppose I can just farm stuff while LFG.

You're 67 and you don't know farming fundamentals? o.o! I guess it's better to learn later rather than never.

[Hamlet]

Why is every thing in the auctions expensive. Im finally lv 10 and i need to upgrade my amour and stuff, and i dont even know how thats possable when its like 2,000 just for a onion sword.

Keep in mind that an onion sword isn't actually worth 2k as far as what it can do to kill stuff. It's worth that much to get higher fame in selbina by turning in Onion gear.

So, don't let it scew your opinion on stuff. Just because an onion sword is 2k doesn't mean that everything else will be equally expensive compared to usefullness.

Also, remember that because everything is expensive, that means that everything you sell is also worth more, so it works out in the end.

[jwalton]

Before immediately going to the auction house, research your purchases. For example, people pay 20-25K a stack for fish mithkabobs on the auction house, when you can buy them from a vendor in Kazham for 12K a stack.

That's just one example, but there are many others. A lot of people go straight to the auction house for all their answers, and they throw a lot of gil away as a result.

[Aeronus]

Hmmm crystal farming hu can some one run me threw how that works..... i try to sell my earth crystals but no one is buying. A matter fact know one is buying any thing i sell amour etc.. i just end up going to the shops were i get like 15 for them blah :wasted:

[Mhurron]

Hmmm crystal farming hu can some one run me threw how that works..... i try to sell my earth crystals but no one is buying. A matter fact know one is buying any thing i sell amour etc.. i just end up going to the shops were i get like 15 for them blah :wasted:Are you putting them up for more then what they have recently sold for? If the purchase history shows 2k for a stack and you put it up for 3k, chances are high that they will be returned to you. Also the chances that while the history shows 2k they may drop to 1k because of people trying to move crystals quickly.

[Oogami]

Bastok is flooded with Earth Crystals. I think the more 'profitable' crystal you can get in Bastok would be Water Crytals from Quadavs and Crabs.

Stacks (12) of Grain Seeds and Bird Feathers should sell pretty good though.

[Jarre]

Don't forget to join a guild. Some of teh items you can farm make great guild crafting items. Keep your behive chips and fire crystals as you can make beeswax, these sell for 50k a stack (3 stacks behive chips 1 stack fire crystals required) if you can't be arsed to do that beehive chips are still selling for 15k on garuda in bastok.

If you in sandy farm sheep to get sheep skin, buy low cost consumables i.e. distilled water and windy tea leaves and whalla, with tehdark crystals yu have farmed from fungar you make sheep leather. as you level up you rabbit hides can be sued for rabit mantels (you c an use one and sell rest, not a money maker as such, but helps skill up to money makers) also rabbit hides can be used in production of animal glue which makes a good amount of money, around 15-20k in Bastok AH.

[Szkol]

fire crystals are profitable in Bastok

[Ellipses]

Hmmm crystal farming hu can some one run me threw how that works..... i try to sell my earth crystals but no one is buying. A matter fact know one is buying any thing i sell amour etc.. i just end up going to the shops were i get like 15 for them blah :wasted:
How long did you wait? If you put full stacks of crystals up for a bit less than the going rate they'll usually sell pretty quickly. Anything else could take up to a few days, depending on what it is, how much is in stock, etc.

Here's how it works. When someone bids on an item, and their bid is equal to or more than the price at which anyone listed it, the AH gives them the item, and the gil goes to whoever put it up for the lowest price; if prices are tied, it goes to whoever put it up for that price first. Let's say there are three Bronze Harnesses on the AH. PlayerA put one up for 200 gil, PlayerB for 200 gil five minutes later, and PlayerC for 195 gil five hours later. PlayerD comes along and bids 200 gil. PlayerC is going to get the gil for that.

This does not mean "put everything up for a really low price." You want to go just a bit under the going rate. Enough that people aren't going to bother finding the right price. If Earth Crystals are going for 2000, I'd go for about 1910 gil. 90 gil isn't much to miss if someone does bid that much, but most people are going to try 1900 then skip right to 2000.

Also, hardly anybody buys single crystals. For the most part, anything that sells in stacks, you want to sell in stacks. There are a few exceptions, but not many.

[Awilo]

or if you dont like farming in southern san doria there is a merchant selling a fishing rod for 238 gil and little worm for 10-12 gil each, buy a stack or two of little worms and a fishing rod and go fish in Northern sandoria to get moat carp, a stack of moat carp is worth 10k and it should take you about 15 min to get a stack of moat carp, have fun.

[Idzor]

Are Beastmen Seals valuable? I have trown away about 15 of them ´cause no1 is buying ém, im Bastoker

[Ellipses]

Are Beastmen Seals valuable? I have trown away about 15 of them ´cause no1 is buying ém, im Bastoker
You will notice a green dot on the image of Beastmen Seals. If you look closely, you will see that this green dot says "Ex." This means that the item is Exclusive to your character, and can not be sold, sent, or traded to any other character. Some Ex items can be sold to shops, but not Beastmen Seals.

Do not throw any more of them away. Ever.

They are used for BCNMs (http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php/Category:BCNM), which are level-capped fights against specific monsters. Sort of like a boss/arena fight. BCNMs are the source of some of the most expensive gear and spells in the game, and can be a fantastic source of income once you're of the appropriate level/job and can get enough people together for them.

[neighbortaru]

It's impossible to make money from crystals anymore, the newer Xbox players have flooded the market. Everybody is going for less than 3k a stack, when most went for more than 5k a stack.i'm gonna have to agree with impaction here. unless you've spent a whole week farming crystals, I don't see how you can get 100-200k with the current market prices

Aeronus, you are in bastok, check the armor and weapon NPC shops in Markets and Mines.

[Aeronus]

people actually buy these crystals??? what for lol

[Ellipses]

Crystals are used in crafting.

[GangsterMan]

I still believe making windurst your starting nation the best way to get money.

Bees = Beehive chips
Crawler = Slik Thread

Just these 2 things drop soo easily as a low level. If you only kill these creatures up to lvl 15 or so youll have stacks and stacks of silk and beehive chips and you will be rolling in gil.

[neighbortaru]

dunno what you've been doing, but the drop on silk from crawlers is horrible. I'd consider it lucky to get half a sack in 2 hours...

not to mention their poison lasts for quite a long time. many times has bandicoot died to these cute, but deadly, critters.

[Mhurron]

dunno what you've been doing, but the drop on silk from crawlers is horrible. I'd consider it lucky to get half a sack in 2 hours...

not to mention their poison lasts for quite a long time. many times has bandicoot died to these cute, but deadly, critters.I usually could get a stack in Sarutabaruta in about 3h, it was faster in Shakhrami on the lower leveled Crawlers in there. That was my primary source of income for a long time, spend a day or two farming instead of leveling for 3-4 stacks and then live of that for a while.

Spipi also added a little boost to that from time to time.

[Aeolus]

i'm gonna have to agree with impaction here. unless you've spent a whole week farming crystals, I don't see how you can get 100-200k with the current market prices

Aeronus, you are in bastok, check the armor and weapon NPC shops in Markets and Mines.

Prices have dropped alot since 3weeks ago. Used to get 7-8k for fire and 4-5k for others but now theyre all 1-2k o.O Anyway all the other items are still good gils. Beehive chips are 19-25k and honey is 5k rock salt 3k. It all adds up even with the crystals for 1-2k and will pay off in the end.

[levish]

I don't think you'd make money as a lowbie alchemy crafter making chips into wax, on Ramuh at least a stack of chips is about 17k and a stack of wax is about 40-50k

so 17k x3 + 12 Fire crystals + distilled water = loosing out on about 10-20k depending on which server you are on. Maybe if we were talking a higher level alchemist but a player complaining about making 2k for a onion sword will not be worrying about Tier3 on Beeswax

[Ellipses]

I'd be surprised if Beeswax were more profitable than just selling the chips on any server at this point. With the market for Silent Oil as cut-throat as it is, nobody would buy Beeswax if it were a profit synth without HQ, since anyone the slightest bit competetive in Silent Oils can HQ Beeswax.

If you want to level Alchemy anyway, farming beehive chips and making Beeswax isn't a bad strategy, but once you hit the cap for Beeswax, just start selling the chips.

[avhmia]

Yeah, chips->wax is a harsh loss without HQ. I'm in the 51+ tier for oils, and if I buy all my materials (wax and slime), I might make a 10% profit on a good day.

[Esoa]

I recently leveled thief to 15 on a character, starting in windurst. I focused on crawlers/bees and maybe made 150k by 15. I think people who claim to make tons of money leveling up are full of it. It's not like crawlers and bees drop silk/chips 100%...not even close.

I've come to the realization that there is no easy way to make money. I've looked at many many suggestions and they usually earn <100k per hour. When it takes my lvl 41 monk 7+ million to be equipped for her level that's 70+ hours of solid farming, not to mention all the time it takes to sell on the AH and transfer to storage characters. That's time spent not leveling, so you feel like you're not making any progress.

IMO the best thing to do is find a cheap class like bard, red mage, or white mage to level to 75. Then the money comes much more easily. The reason prices are so expensive on many items is because they are purchased by experienced players who have 1 or more lvl 75's already and 10's of millions of gil.

[neighbortaru]

IMO the best thing to do is find a cheap class like bard, red mage, or white mage to level to 75. none of those jobs are particularly cheap unless you want to gimp your way to 75

[Mog]

none of those jobs are particularly cheap unless you want to gimp your way to 75

Define "cheap"

Relative to the other jobs, bard is the cheapest job in game.

[Aeni]

Define "cheap"

Relative to the other jobs, bard is the cheapest job in game.

I agree. Only job class that can be forgiven for being slightly "gimped." And we're talking exp here, nevermind BC.

BTW, someone said they couldn't get anything profitable from Windy (Crystals)

I always get about a stack of fire, a stack of earth, a stack of wind, a stack of lightining and a stack of water when leveling my lowbie to at least 5-6 from 1. Triple that from level 5 to 10.

-Vultures drop fire. Goblin Thugs do to. I rather fight thugs than weavers, since I want to avoid anything with dia/poison/paralyze (Unless I'm being PL'd)

-Crabs and Pugils drop water.

-Goblin Fishers drop lightning. Plenty of them in W. Sarutabaruta.

-Earth is dropped by rabbits, crawlers and mandies.

-Wind off bees and god knows there's plenty of them. Yags drop wind too, but I'd rather pick soft targets for the same exp (Yags are usually too evasive for my tastes)

[Esoa]

none of those jobs are particularly cheap unless you want to gimp your way to 75

I'm confused what expensive gear do I need pre-70? Enfeebling torque on RDM? Oh noes. Not to mention that you greatly overstate the value of any gear a RDM/WHM/BRD might get. It's not like +5 enfeebling skill or +50 MP or +5 singing skill (or whatever gear bards go for) is going to take me from gimp to uber. I look at lvl 75 RDM and WHM gear and it's meh. OMG auto-refresh +20 mp/minute! That's soooo going to make or break my performance in a PT.

[Aeni]

I'm confused what expensive gear do I need pre-70? Enfeebling torque on RDM? Oh noes. Not to mention that you greatly overstate the value of any gear a RDM/WHM/BRD might get. It's not like +5 enfeebling skill or +50 MP or +5 singing skill (or whatever gear bards go for) is going to take me from gimp to uber. I look at lvl 75 RDM and WHM gear and it's meh. OMG auto-refresh +20 mp/minute! That's soooo going to make or break my performance in a PT.

I think in the case of WHM, Raise 2 and Erase are the only ones I can think of that is borderline pricey. Most of the other scrolls can be quested or bought from NPCs (Including all the Teleport scrolls, although Vazhl is based on a coffer hunt) You don't need a Noble's/VC either.

I think among the mage jobs, BLM job is easily the most expensive if you include tier IV spells, -ga and AMs. Even if you decided not to buy any AM spells, you're still looking at millions for a complete spell set that you are required in order to NOT be gimp. Since spells are pretty much the only reason anyone would p/u a BLM, you really do _need_ to buy them and the drops isn't exactly questable either (Even a couple of quested scrolls require 75s to fight trigger NMs)

[Rai|Kye]

I'm confused what expensive gear do I need pre-70? Enfeebling torque on RDM? Oh noes. Not to mention that you greatly overstate the value of any gear a RDM/WHM/BRD might get. It's not like +5 enfeebling skill or +50 MP or +5 singing skill (or whatever gear bards go for) is going to take me from gimp to uber. I look at lvl 75 RDM and WHM gear and it's meh. OMG auto-refresh +20 mp/minute! That's soooo going to make or break my performance in a PT.

You Sir have no fucking clue what the hell you are talking about.
if you think +Enfeebling magic skill or a Dalmatica dont matter to rdm just quit the job right now and go play something other you need no brain nor skill for.


there should be some sort of IQ TEST before you are able to unlock RDM...

[Jarre]

I got a Tree cutting of a gobbue in Parshow last night while just messing about with Brickshouse's lvl 32 war, sold in 10 minutes on Sandy AH for 10,000gil a stack of 12 if you can farm that many goes for 200k in Garuda!!