Aspiring Samurai

[Hustler_One]

Well over the weekend I hit level 30 and also have been gathering up gear for my journey to 75.

But I just want to make sure it's smooth sailing. I got my O.Kotes, Jujitsu Gi, and I camped Bugbear strongman for the Shinimusa Haidate lvl50 Store TP+6. Also wearing Balance Ring+Rajas Ring until I hit 40. I have woodsman ring to replace the Balance. And I got a Soboro GK for when I hit 50.

I've been gathering up gear before I need it. Also got some AF2 and AF1+1 items to repare for that when I get there.

So I was just wondering if there are any armor or weapons to look for on my way up. lol

Also, wondering how often Zanshin takes effect? Good enough to forgo Sushi and just have ATK Food? My main job is DRK so I use a bit of both depending on what I'm fighting.

I've read up on Meditate so I'm sure I can use it effectively.


Also I tossed my Mumieto lol Am I able to get it back to do AF1? Or am I SOL?

[DakAttack]

When you start AF1 you can purchase another Mumieto from an NPC for 30,000G.

The big ticket items are Ochiudo's Kote, Jujitsu Gi, and Fuma Kyhan, with those you'll be set for a while. There's also the level 50 JSE chest quest in Phomiuna Aqueducts. It seems like you've got all your equipment covered for the most part, but I'd also make sure I have /War, /Thf, and /Rng leveled up for the hell of it.

[Hustler_One]

Yeah I have all three subjobs leveled.

I leveled /war /thf /nin for DRK as subs. And since I had /nin ready. I went ahead and did /rng ahead of time. Though that was before the patch where they messed with the ranged attacks.


Is /rng still viable? Since we're always in melee. Do the WS do as decent enough damage as before?

I was thinking of just going mostly /war since I have the Soboro. And /thf if the party really needs it. I haven't put too much thought into /rng since that patch. lol

[DakAttack]

I hear it's still pretty good because you can just Meditate, back up a bit, and fire them off pretty quickly. Skillchain options might be a bit limited, but with the Soboro you'd be firing one off every minute or so.

It's still probably a more situational sub job, but interesting nonetheless. You'd learn Sidewinder at 57 as Samurai, as opposed to 55 as a Ranger.

[IxX3xil3d0n3XxI]

I hear that the O Kote is very overrated for samurai, if i purchase one i will probably sell it later just to buy a Haubergeon. i also dont plan on doing any AF other than the AF GK and the head piece, imo sam AF just is not very good. i definitly recomment a hauby tho, very nice body piece

[Hustler_One]

Yeah I have a Haubergeon+1 from my DRK job.
Also max STR merits / crit rates

[DakAttack]

I hear that the O Kote is very overrated for samurai, if i purchase one i will probably sell it later just to buy a Haubergeon. i also dont plan on doing any AF other than the AF GK and the head piece, imo sam AF just is not very good. i definitly recomment a hauby tho, very nice body piece

If you're really dedicated to the job you'll obtain all pieces. Cutting corners is weak and for Bards.

[Omni]

Sam AF legs is a good piece too. has +STR iirc.

[Murphie]

I'm too OCD not to get all of my AF (even if I don't necessarily get it right when I need it). Plus, AF Storage can't be undervalued.

[Drive]

Cutting corners is weak and for Bards.
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To topic starter: Well I can't answer your Zanshin question and all the gear has already been said(fuma kya, JSE body brigad quest). With your gear setup so far you seem just fine.

[Omni]

heh, i dont think he meant that to insult brds if thats what you are thinking.
my guess is that since brd af isnt as useful. theres maybe 2 pieces that are ok (legs and hands), but other than that, brd af doesnt really do anything for the job like other afs do and thats why brds tend to not bother with af unless for novelty's sake. I know a few brds that didnt even bother getting their AF and spent time getting items like gaudy harness or minstrel's coat.

[Drive]

reminds me of thief AF pants. only thing i really need.

[Tadekatsu]

FYI, Exiled, If you wanna get only the Samurai AF Helm, you have to get the feet in order to start the quest for the helm. And the Great Katana, but why WOULDNT you get that? Just letting you know so you dont pull out your hair trying to figure out why Jaucabrix wont give you the quest, lol. ( ^^)b

[Nodachi]

The big ticket items are Ochiudo's Kote, Jujitsu Gi, and Fuma Kyhan, with those you'll be set for a while.

Actually, with a 450 delay GKT, Fuma Kyahan are fairly worthless without haste at that level, I would avoid buying them all together to be honest. Here's a list of the haste and the amount of hits it will net you in a 50 and 60 second interval.

50 Second Fight - 6 Hits Standard
Hits - Haste
7 - 4.76%
8 - 16.67%
9 - 29.93%
10 - 33.33%
11 - 39.39%
12 - 44.44%
13 - 48.72%
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60 Second Fight - 8 Hits Standard
Hits - Haste
9 - 11.11%
10 - 20.0%
11 - 27.27%
12 - 33.33%
13 - 38.46%
14 - 42.86%
15 - 46.67%
16 - 50.0%

Also, Ochidos Kote, I duno how people get on this kick that they're over-rated. +20 attack at that level is perhaps one of the best single things you could do to improve your overall damage. Sure they're often ridiculously expensive nowadays, but cost aside they are the best handpiece you could be wearing, for a very long time.

EDIT: Haste chart given to me by Dalrek of Midgardsomr

[AcidReignOfRag]

On the topic of zanshin, it kicks in fairly often if you miss the initial swing but I wouldn't rely on it heavily for making up on lack of accuracy. I'd still use sushi or other food that will give +att/str and +dex/acc. Once you get a haubergeon (you said you had +1) you could test how well your acc goes with different foods and determine which you want to go with. Especially important to do that depending on the type of mobs you will be fighting (acc more for IT++++ mobs and not so much if you are fighting IT-- or VT type mobs).

I'd suggest doing all of the af pieces also...sure the body isn't that great but having the full set allows you to store the gear in the case that you have or end up having multiple af sets for jobs. I liked using the af pants, boots, gloves, and helm for different occassions but it's more dependent on what pieces you have available to you.

Later on, you probably already know but snagging up a hachiman domaru is a nice little bonus at 70 for your str modifier with yukikaze, gekko, kasha so it's another piece you'll want to snag once you get up there.

Overall, I think you are better prepared than I was for the most part when I was that level lol.

[IxX3xil3d0n3XxI]

Tadekatsu- Thank you for the specification, i didnt know you had to get the legs, i knew a piece but not which one.

O kote is a good hand...but..maybe i was thinking overrated at the time because of price, they really shouldnt cost that damn much.

and i dont think ill be any less of a good samurai without the AF. the emnity on the pieces are undesireable to me. The head is nice, and ill get the AF weapon and the other piece needed to get the head. but why bother to get the rest? i dont have a huge amount of time to play so i see myself just using Hauby for body and O kote for hands get AF legs and ill figure out something with feet.

I just dont think its right to catagorize a player that do not get every possible piece of gear for their job as "undedicated" if i did obtain every piece, half would be sitting in my mog house >.<

[Feba]

I'd recommend you replace your balance ring with a courage ring.

1ACC and a minimal bonus to crits won't help as much as STR for your WS mods and attacks.

[Hustler_One]

Thanks for the advice so far guys. I'm steaming along fine at the moment. Right now for food using Rice Dumplings. Since Im in my 30s and sushi isnt as potent as later levels.
So the atk%+ and the +5acc is still pretty useful.

Hachiman Domaru, is that JSE Body?

Thanks again so far everyone. :D

[Feba]

Rice Dumplings are an excellent choice, glad you were able to pick those out for yourself.

You might want to try Dhalmel Pies at least until you break 34, as otherwise you're wasting a lot of ATK, and thus gil. Of course, if Rice Dumplings and Dhalmel Pies are close enough on your server, better off with Dumplins.

[Hustler_One]

My wifes my personal chef. So she made me a buncha stacks for free. So I'm set for a while.

[LadyPeorth]

Hachiman Domaru is indeed the JSE.

* Strength +8
* Store TP +6
* Weapon Skill Accuracy +8

Are the stats

[AcidReignOfRag]

Yeah the Hachiman Domaru is the jse body at 70 as someone posted the stats for you. Figured it'd be a little ways off but I find that looking at the ah for future gear is beneficial in the case that someone decides to drop the price of it a ton. Typically every other month the price of domaru on ragnarok will slip a little before going back up. Of course that can be said about a lot of gear for every job but I said h.domaru since you already have quite a bit of nice gear to use already.

[Itatchi]

Gear: Accuracy & Attack Gear for building TP, swap to +STR gear for WS (if your /thf for sneak attack so ya don't miss)

Sell the Fuma and the Juju, I never needed em, unless you wanna use em for something else. O-kotes are WAY overpriced, but also awesome. If ya can't afford them (I dont blame ya) see if ya can manage to camp em. Can be pretty much til endgame.

[Hustler_One]

Well actually, Going to pass on the Fuma. I don't see it as performing a lot of difference. Most of the WHM I've partied with don't like hasting. lol So I don't really think the 3% alone will be worth the price tag.

The O.Kotes are on loan from someone who doesn't need them anymore. So I got them until whenever.

The Juju I bought but will sellback once I get to Royal Knight Chainmail.

[samarium]

Well actually, Going to pass on the Fuma. I don't see it as performing a lot of difference. Most of the WHM I've partied with don't like hasting. lol So I don't really think the 3% alone will be worth the price tag.

The O.Kotes are on loan from someone who doesn't need them anymore. So I got them until whenever.

The Juju I bought but will sellback once I get to Royal Knight Chainmail.

Hey, we have your safety in mind! If I Haste my samurai, especially with a ninja tank, he has a bad habit of dying on the business end of a crab. :thumbsup:

You're all just too powerful. :cool:

-sam

[Hustler_One]

That is true. Especially since I have a Soboro. I'm going to be a tanks worst nightmare lol.


XD Thanks for looking out lol

[Itatchi]

Holy crap, your on Bahamut, hook me up with some O-kotes too ~.^

[Hustler_One]

Yeah, I'm in Guts too ocassionally. XD

:P

I was trying to get some of you guys to go to kill the Unstable Cluster for Soboro last sunday.

Only Chix and Tyronica showed up though XD You should have come. 5/5 Soboros! XD

[Hustler_One]

Woohoo I got Saotome Kotes over the weekend. ^_^

Now to just gain like 40 levels to use them. >_>;

Anyway, I had another question.

I'm 75 DRK and leveling PLD to 75 [67 at the moment] aswell, and definately taking SAM to 75 too... (I'm ambitious. -_- )

But I had a question about Merits.

Since I will have 3 jobs for sure at 75, I was wondering how to make use of my combat skill Merit Points.

Right now, I have Scythe Merit up to level 4. If I remember correctly. You can have a total of 12 Units of Combat Skills I think?

So I'm trying to make the best use as I can from them.

So I was thinking of leaving scythe alone now. Doing 4 levels of sword, leaving me with 4 Levels for Great Katana.

What do you guys think?

I could just forgo sword skill I think and do 6 scythe and 6 GK.

Too many options >_<

[Gwynn]

On the AF issue, you could go ahead and get all of them for upgrading to AF+1 (you mentioned you were planning on it). I haven't looked at the AF+1 stats in a while, but I do seem to recall Samurai getting some pretty good boosts to certain pieces.

[Itatchi]

I'm on minotaur/aquaducts so I don't think I even have access to the area where that GKT drops. Grats on drops though.

[Hustler_One]

Oh dude, that sucks.

But hey. If you ever need some help after you get access. Tell chixy to ask me. I'd be glad to help out. A friend of mine is also around the sam mission. So maybe could help the both of you at the same time.

[Itatchi]

cool beans