Corsair Asks Rangers a Question!

[WishMaster3K]

Well, ok, from reading the older posts, I think it all boild down to this:

"When using a gun, for maximum efficiency, stand a little bit out of melee range."

Right?

My real question now, is how this is affected by stats such as AGI, STR and Ranged Accuracy. I've noticed that RNGs are now moving towards stacking their STR and RATCK, but it that because of their latent job traits?

As a COR, I am a pt buffer, but I have (what appears to be, at lvl 15) a B in marksmanship. In addition, although it seems that the bullet choice we get sucks, we can do some nifty things with guns.

In any case, I just want to be more effective, and the archaic posts about the circles on the radar escape me. . .

Any help is appreciated, thank you!

[Caspian]

If I remember correctly, max damage range for gun is a little outside xbow best range, but inside bow range (hardly ever use gun anymore). Xbow is just outside of melee range, so gun range is just a little bit farther outside that. Best bet is just to play around a little with it until you find the best point. And for the most part, its pretty easy to see if your damage is going up or down based on distance.
2nd part of your question: the distance thing is basically based off of your perfect damage at ideal positioning. Based on distance, its all percentrages of 100% at the "sweet spot". Raising str and r.atk. will boost the damage in any of those positions. The rng's you see boosting those stats are, 9 times out of 10, rngs at endgame doing VT meripo parties and the like. Reason being, at that level, you don't need all the extra ranged accuracy that is usually required for a normal xp party pre-endgame. Usually the lower level rangers you see running around in str gear are doing so because thats what hi-level rangers do and they think thats is whats appropriate. There are a few cases where I'd sacrifice a couple points of ranged accuracy for many points of ranged attack, like the Shikaree Aketon for the Noct doublet +1, but thats about it (still haven't decided on food yet, since I'll be subbing WAR and don't get the extra accuracy from the offhand dagger). Really its one of those balancing games where you want enough accuracy to hit consistently, but not so much that you get too much of a diminishing return or just flat out cap it and get no returns at all.
(Honestly I haven't been able to see much of a difference in accuracy using atk food over accuracy food so far, think it was a side effect of the patch last year, but could just be my imagination)

[WishMaster3K]

Blast, ok. So that means I'll have to think about my food choices.

WELL- I do have Hunter's Roll, and regardless of what pt's want, they don't have a clue what rolls do, so sometime's I'll cycle between Hunter, Chaos and Corsair's. (I've found that if they sese two dice icons and they get more exp, they don't care >.>)

So I'll stick with Hunter and Corsair until pts request otherwise. (Attack bonus from Chaos is negligable. . . at best. . . even with DRK in the PT and I roll an 11)

Then I guess that means going with AGI gear and looking into more economy-based foods(cause Sushi is still expensive. . .) And here I thought I was going to run rampant eatting meat.

Thanks, Caspian!

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Just between Xbow and Bow does sound about right, though I do wish COR at least got access to Xbows so they could have something else to gauge things by in-game (windowers can burn in hell). Plus, status bolts would be a compliment to a job that does status boosts.

As for food, I think STR plays into guns, so sole sushi long term for the r. acc bonus.

(I've found that if they sese two dice icons and they get more exp, they don't care >.>)

Honestly, I'd take the minor boost of Chaos Roll w/ Hunter's Roll over any EXP Corsair's Roll may add. Chains > EXP bonus. Cutting me off from a useful buff for a gimmick buff just leaves me inclined to think there's a bad COR in PT.

And I'll say this as somone who's levelled BRD 1-75 - Look at PT gear/jobs/food before you decide what the best buffs are, don't just whore out a buff because someone asks you to.

If Hunter's Roll is anything like Prelude or Madrigal, it'll be losing out to +Accuracy gear and food in due time. There's really no reason for an accuracy buff past 40 unless you melee member's gear just flat-out sucks. I've had members try to get me to switch to Madrigal so they could eat +Attack foods, but they just didn't realize how much more +Attack Minuet was already giving them. I don't know how Minuet and Chaos Roll stack up against each other, but I'd take either over an EXP buff because they'll bring me closer to Chain 5.

[WishMaster3K]

That's a good point. My friend is raising BRD and tells me the insane ATK boost you get from Minuet, and I can only hope that since COR get's one roll, it get's stronger as we level.

Also, keep in mind that we have different rolls we can achieve.

And we are affected by pt jobs when we roll.

When I get an unlucky number on Chaos roll w/o DRK in the PT, the attack bonus is simply negated (roll is there, but no buff). When I get unlucky while DRK is in the pt there is at least a minimal boost, so it's alright.

I can't help shake the fact that the COR AF is going to be real friggin awsome. Good job I'm leveling it now and not a month ago.

With Healer's Roll for the backline and Chaos and Hunter's for the frontline, I think I'm finally passed the point where I have to use Cosair's. Besides, in comparison to raising Accuracy, raising EXP at the expense of ACC or ATK at lvl 22 just doesn't seem feasable to me.

And feel free to go more in-depth about BRD, even if it's a PM. You have no idea how many times I've seen arguments from people refusing to eat sushi at level 60, because they have a BRD in their static (they also ALWAYS have a BRD in their static, no matter what job they level. Don't get me started on that. . .). Then when they ask a forum for help on helping their damage, they don't want to sacrifice ATK food and ACC buffs. . .

Post Sushi, I think that people can now mix/match ATK and ACC gear and just eat Squid/Sole. I've tried ACC gear and ATK food on WAR and it just doesn't work :(

[Spider-Dan]

Gun optimal range is just outside of melee (~6.5), xbow is a little further back than that (~7.5), bow is far back (~10.0).

As far as I can tell, U# on Chaos is exactly ATK+1 (without DRK).

As for food/gear, I'm of the opinion that CORs should always eat sushi and wear primarily RACC. There are a few exceptions; I'll wear Fed. Gloves/Fed. Gaiters (AGI+1, RATK+7 each) over Noct Gloves+1 (RACC+2) and Leaping Boots (AGI+3) if I'm in an area where they work, and I wear Republic Subligar (RATK+5) over Noct Brais+1 (RACC+2). But I have lots of Marksmanship merits, /RNG, and a Gun Belt/Beater's Earring, so I have a little more wiggle room on RACC than others might.

With COR having other duties as a priority, I try to make sure that my accuracy is as high as possible for the shots I do get off.