View Full Version : HQs while skilling up...
Sethe
05-20-2006, 04:30 AM
Just wondered how often this happened to you while skilling up..
When I was 92.x I got a HQ animation on an Icarus Wing synth (93 cap)
Then today I got HQ on platinum nuggets when only 1 level above cap (synthing off that damn panacea) not really skilling up, but near enough.
Anyways, I'm sure some of you other crafters have HQd something wicked - makes me wish I had skilled up on cursed armour ;)
AngryUndead
05-20-2006, 06:10 AM
When I was doing carrot broth, before I was even level 1 cooking, I got the HQ of it. Since then the only thing I've HQ'd while skilling was some low level leather pants.
Its rare enough that its still cool when you're doing it.
Taskmage
05-20-2006, 06:29 AM
I've gotten one craft to 99, and two others to 60, and in that time I think I've gotten HQs while skilling up three or four times. It's super rare. I wouldn't skill up on something expensive hoping for an HQ. The odds are just impossible. But it is pretty neat when it happens. Depending on what it is, it might even pay back your level.
kiffkin
05-20-2006, 08:04 AM
I had a Tender Navarin a couple of weeks ago and my cooking is 75.8 (cap is 77). Sold for 30k, which is nice (nq goes for 8-10k).
I also remember getting a couple of famous carrot broths a very, very long time ago. Had no idea what they were and couldn't sell them on the ah, so ended up npcing them. Might make some more now, just to see what they're like.
Nakti
05-20-2006, 08:42 AM
I've gotten 2 HQs while skilling up a total of 272 crafting levels (not including fishing).
The first was an Alchemy item which had HQ items the same as the NQ.
And the other was a Heko Obi +1! I was so happy I /cheered! Too bad I couldn't have signed it, lol.
Both times I was using advanced synth support and I was within 1 to 2 levels of the synth cap.
Neomage
05-20-2006, 08:53 AM
I never had a S/U HQ ; ;
Ive only ever hqd synths that dont have a HQ result when skilling -.- I did manage to HQ a wood synth when i was level 1, think it was a level 6 or something synth.
Its almost as rare as desynth skill ups for me >.>
0-60 cooking skilling up I got a few HQ. On items that HQ result the same as NQ -.-
0-60 leather alchemy
0-79 woodworking
0-53 weaving
never HQ.
blackmajick
05-21-2006, 01:22 PM
I have had a couple items HQ while I was skilling up on my Clothcraft, but lately some wierd things happened while I was leveling leather for a sub to my weaving.
http://ffxi.darkmage.org/ss/crafting/leather_ring+1.png
although it was darksday full moon... i still think this is pretty rare to do that twice in a row...
http://ffxi.darkmage.org/ss/crafting/2parchment.png
maybe leatherworking is special :D
Lilani
05-21-2006, 02:58 PM
I went from 35-40 in mythril ingots made from ores and I saw the HQ effect on one of them :( And that's the only craft I have taken up so far, so I don't know any others :x And I don't remember seeing any HQs during other skill ups in the past either.
However I do know that the rate of HQs you get increases as your levels go up, so who knows where I'll be 60+ lol.
LyonheartLakshmi
05-22-2006, 08:23 PM
In about 800 crafting levels between two of my characters, I have gotten a grand total of 3 HQs. The first was a Spatha +1, during my early early days of crafting. I didn't pay much attention to recipe caps and such back then, so I don't know if image support pushed me up to / past the recipe's cap.
The 2nd time I HQed during a skill up was a Tiger Ring. Early in my crafting career, I noticed that the skill up rate I was seeing dropped when I reached the recipe's cap with my effective crafting skill (i.e. accounting for the image support). After that point, and basically for almost all of my crafting career, I religiously followed a guideline where I stopped using support when I got within 3 levels of cap. That Tiger Ring was one case where I forgot to let image support wear off before continuing a skill up session.
The 3rd time was when I intentionally kept support on even after reaching recipe cap on Iron Chains. This was fairly recent. I wanted to test to see what affect having image support take me above cap would have on skill up rates. Over the course of 3 levels, the skill up rate averaged out to what I normally expect. And I got an HQ during that time.
Some players claim that you should expect an HQ from skill ups once every 3 to 4 levels once you're past 60. I suspect that these players have image support and guild equipment pushing their effective skill past recipe caps on a consistent basis. My current belief is that there is a Tier 0 (at or above recipe cap) where your HQ rate reaches 1-2%, and your HQ chances are 0% (or very close to it) when you are below the cap.
Icemage
05-22-2006, 09:37 PM
The above theory sounds correct to me. I've gotten a few skillup + HQ results in various crafts and now that I think about it, I think I had synth support every time.
I'm not convinced that pushing your effective skill limit above the cap for your recipe doesn't hurt your skillup rates though...
Icemage
Anishia
05-22-2006, 09:50 PM
On average i've seen the HQ animation on things that don't actaully have a HQ more than those that do when i've leveled off them. I think there might be a higher chance to see a HQ when the item can't, but why they'd do that I don't know.
I have seen a few skill HQ's, most recently when I was skilling up Alchemy I mananged to HQ Mercury once.
Tirrock
05-22-2006, 10:16 PM
I can only remember two synths that I HQed while I was skilling on them. First was 66 darksteel bolts. Second was a few levels later with 66 bodkin arrows. I'm sure I had advanced support on for both.
I've HQed things I wasn't 11 levels past the cap on...I always just assumed it was like 1 in 100 or 1 in 200 shot of HQing something you were 0 to 10 levels higher than. Off hand, I can think of a few things I've HQed past the cap, but below the first HQ teir. That always makes me smile a bit too.
LyonheartLakshmi
05-23-2006, 08:34 AM
Off hand, I can think of a few things I've HQed past the cap, but below the first HQ teir. That always makes me smile a bit too.
Sometimes, this makes me curse my luck. I haven't done any level 96+ recipes for profit yet. So when this happens, it's usually a guild point item. One time, I HQed my test item. And the guild won't accept the HQ version of the item for your rank test :(
Haggai
05-23-2006, 08:53 AM
When skilling up cooking, I got HQs on skillups all the time. It was only ever on juices, though. So annoying.
Switch
05-23-2006, 09:25 AM
I only remember two that were worth mentioning from all my levels of Crafting.
I used to have Cooking 100 and while I was at 91 I made a HQ Tonosama Rice Ball (Shogun Rice Ball) which caps at 94.
Tavnazian Salad 92 Cap. When these first came out I was the first to list the Leremieu Salad. I was such a happy noob. ;p
My HQ luck on any tier is horrid. Getting a HQ while skilling up on something that has no HQ result is SE rubbing in my horrid luck. :(
zagex
05-23-2006, 03:22 PM
I guess I got lucky... I got 3 HQs while skilling up on Jester's headbands from Cloth 80-81. Naturally, those 3 HQs paid for my entire level and then some.
kamalii
05-23-2006, 07:02 PM
I have gotten some hq results while skilling, the most notable being Dance Shoes +1 (paid for all my dance shoes losses, since I got two of them).
While leveling gold, I got a few HQ animations while synthing the lvl 75 Bead rings, but of course, I don't think the HQ exists in the game yet.
I've gotten a few HQ1 and HQ2 with desynthing (Still getting skill points for the particular bonecraft level as well) which I thought was cool. But on a normal bone synth, I have not had a single occurence.
Cooking on the other hand ... seems to follow a different set of rules. But in the case of Krynn, I'm willing to bet that your clothcraft levels did something it shouldn't have done if the leather recipe didnt' require skill in the cloth. That is, it contributed to your chances. Thus, since it's (I'm assuming) really high, it kicked in and you got two HQ synths in a row. And then again later for other leather recipes.
Taskmage
05-30-2006, 03:39 PM
I'm 99.9 cooking, just did a Cursed Soup (100) synth on watersday full moon 100% and got an HQ animation. No support or chef's hat or anything. Make of that what you will.
Yeah, I know, not the best time to try for skillups, but I only need .1 so I was just synthing the jelly as it dropped.
Jamibian
05-31-2006, 11:16 PM
Managed to HQ a nodowa while skilling -.- ended up giving the thing away as no-one would buy it. HQ's during skilling do happen but as stated in some of the previous post amazingly rare so its not even worth doing an expensive synth in the hope the HQ during skilling
Maybe i should think about skilling on stuff that has an hq rather than consumables from now on...
pearlsea
06-01-2006, 05:58 AM
I have never gotten a skill up HQ synth yet but i have gotten many HQ desynths that i was not anywhere near the skill cap.
LyonheartLakshmi
06-01-2006, 06:55 AM
Maybe i should think about skilling on stuff that has an hq rather than consumables from now on...
I'd suggest playing around with a lower level synth, to test what skill up rates are like when image support pushes your effective skill above the recipe's cap. If you find the skill up rates are still acceptable, then I'd suggest giving this approach a try. However, if image support doesn't get you up to or beyond the cap, I don't suggest this approach. I'm not convinced that the HQ rate below recipe cap is anywhere near 1-2%.
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