ok heres the thing

[Ravd]

im only level 18 war thats my main with 7 theif for sub but i dont really like war all that much im wondering if u think i should switch to rdm because it seems better cause i like mage and i like melee or if i should just get the 30 with my war so i can get the extra jobs but heres the other thing these r the jobs i would eventually like to get

drg sum nin drk and pal so i dont kno wat would end up being a better sub for them im gonna guess war for must and whm for sum but i dont kno

... yes this is basicly like my last post lol but a lil different i mean blue mage is an option i guess but im an elf so i dont get much magic lol i might do drk and pal and elf for this guy and magic ones on a new taru i might make im not sure yet ... i already have 3 content ids somehow lol i only bought 2 ... did it come with one?? o well lol ill delete one or make a mule im only level 18 and i already need one thats pritty bad lol alright im thankful of ur comments

:shocked: I NEED HELP

o yeah and i know this has nothing to do with this but ... wats the point of gil on the site?????:huh:

[neighbortaru]

at some point in your life, it's always a good idea to get WAR to 30 if you plan on playing any melee or tank job. whether you do it now and get it over with or later is up to you.

that being said, RDM is not melee and magic damnit! /slap /slap /slap Support is always your first priority!

As you already guessed, BLU is more the route you should go if you want to melee and cast.

[ioshua]

that being said, RDM is not melee and magic damnit! /slap /slap /slap Support is always your first priority!

Had I known this at NA release (or if maybe someone had told me that RDM/THF is a bad idea...) I imagine my first trip to 30 would have gone a lot more smoothly. RDM is definately not a melee job. You'll swing a sword when solo, of course, but not in groups.

[Ravd]

ok so no one seems to be able to answer my question u got close with the ull eventually need to but just to get to 30 wat do u think i should do

[Icemage]

ok so no one seems to be able to answer my question u got close with the ull eventually need to but just to get to 30 wat do u think i should do

Well, if your original post didn't have have missing punctuation, perhaps people wouldn't overlook them. The only "questions" you asked were:

Q: What is the point of gil on the forum?
A: You can use it to buy neat forum perks like custom colors on your name or boldfaced text.

Q: Did FFXI come with a free contentID?
A: No. You must have created a third character and deleted it at some point. Make sure you've cancelled this unused ID or you'll get charged extra for it.

If your real question was "Should I get to level 30 on WAR or switch to another job" - the answer is do whatever you like. The servers will still be there one way or another, and it's not a race.


Icemage

[Ravd]

lol thank u for finally clearing that up

[Ravd]

i finally figured out wat im doing, im gonna level rdm to 30 get extra jobs nin pal drk drg and sum and level them up with a war sub for most but change it up for sum and go with a rdm sub for sum. ill prob start on nin or drk maybe drg but i kno i need alot of money for nin so maybe not. ill start sum when i get higher rdm (gonna stay my main probally) and get summons for it and thats basicly my plan if anyone has any sigjestions to make my life ezer i would appresiate it.

[BurningPanther]

A word of advice: Don't sub RDM for SMN. Level White Mage to 37, then go for SMN. RDM offers practically nothing for a SMN main.

For your other jobs, you'd do better to level WAR to 37 as well, since NIN or DRK are better places with WAR. Many DRKs will tell you that you whould level THF to sub for DRK, so take that into consderation.

[TheGrandMom]

Level whm and blm for subs for your rdm main.

[nazlfrag]

Don't worry about being an elvaan mage, there is gear and food that makes up for your low MP and INT, and your MND score, used for White Magic, is highest out of all the races. Redmage is a good mage job, but that is what it is, a mage job. You will be swinging your sword plenty outside of parties, but sitting up the back with the other mages gripping your wand or staff the rest of the time. If you like magic and melee, drk, pld or blu would be better choices.

Oh, and level your subjob to above where you need it right now, so it can last you for a while, ie. war18/thf7, you should have your thf at least 9, and prefrerably at 15 so it can lasr your war to 30.

Remember not to rush, take your time to experiment with the jobs and find one you like. Good luck ^^

[Aksannyi]

Had I known this at NA release (or if maybe someone had told me that RDM/THF is a bad idea...) I imagine my first trip to 30 would have gone a lot more smoothly. RDM is definately not a melee job. You'll swing a sword when solo, of course, but not in groups. That's not always true. Granted, most often at this level I spend time in the back of the party, especially because I get stuck being the Pink Mage, but I've meleed at least somewhat through every level in exp. I know that's about to change, but RDM isn't totally lost when it comes to melee. I do agree that if the OP wants to melee and cast he should be BLU, as it appears that BLU is more designed to be what most people thought RDM was going to be.

If you're going to be a RDM though, don't sub a melee job in lower levels. Subbing WAR, NIN, or DRK comes about later in the game for special situations, but do nothing for you pretty much up through your 60's. Level BLM and WHM for subs for RDM. Trust me, I made the mistake of subbing WAR for 30 levels. >.<

[Feba]

I think the biggest advice you need is...





DON'T USE "NETSPEAK"!


Good lord, if "'ud stop tlkin like this so we cud red wut ur sayin insted of luking at it and our i's bledin lol", it would be a lot easier to get a response.

It says you hardly ANY time to say "you" over "u". And Punctuation is your friend.


Using net-speak might work in other games, but in FFXI, you NEED to speak properly.

[Lilani]

drg sum nin drk and pal so i dont kno wat would end up being a better sub for them im gonna guess war for must and whm for sum but i dont kno
Out of those, NIN is the best sub for WAR, at least after level 20. At level 20 you get dual weild, and at that point you should dual weild axes. At 24+ you'll get utsusemi which will be the greatest thing next to God for you. You can subtank for a NIN or PLD, or you could fully tank if your heart desires.

As for your RDM idea: WHM, BLM, and SMN are your best choices for subs. WHM for more MND and buffs; BLM for +INT, a better MP boost, warp, and things like aspir and drain; and SMN for a balanced INT and MND boost and a major MP boost. I use BLM myself for warp, aspir, and drain. Warp is great for traveling, aspir is great for any situation with mobs with MP, and drain is fun after convert (a level 40 RDM ability).

... yes this is basicly like my last post lol but a lil different i mean blue mage is an option i guess but im an elf so i dont get much magic lol i might do drk and pal and elf for this guy and magic ones on a new taru i might make im not sure yet ... i already have 3 content ids somehow lol i only bought 2 ... did it come with one?? o well lol ill delete one or make a mule im only level 18 and i already need one thats pritty bad lol alright im thankful of ur comments
I don't know much about BLU, but I do know that if you want to play BLU then do it anyway. Just get some +MP gear and use pies for food.

And on a side note, to be able to play the jobs other than WAR, MNK, RDM, BLM, WHM, and THF you have to be level 30 with one of those six jobs and you need to complete a/some quest(s). So you might want to do a bit of research on where you have to go and fame, lol. And remember: to play BLU, PUP, and COR you need the newest expansion pack (Treasures of Aht Urhgan).\

EDIT: And yes, I'm all for Feba's suggestion. I could barely understand what you were asking exactly...I just kind of guessed my way through it o-o Sentences and punctuation...that's all we're asking for....

[lionx]

I dont think a NIN sub would be worthwhile pre 50 due to the fact that you have two Axes delay recalculated so that you would get LESS TP than two swings of a normal single wielded Axe, sub MNK for Boost and the HP Bonus if nothing else. Only around 24 should NIN sub be considered and only as an alternative and for specific situations only.

i also disagree with SMN sub, since you dont get status cures/group buffs with WHM sub nor the enfeebles and -ga spells of the BLM sub, you only really get more MP....which might or might not be fine depending on the party but in the end i dont feel its worth giving those up especially with Conserve MP and Ele/Divine Seal.

[Ravd]

Don't worry about being an elvaan mage, there is gear and food that makes up for your low MP and INT, and your MND score, used for White Magic, is highest out of all the races. Redmage is a good mage job, but that is what it is, a mage job. You will be swinging your sword plenty outside of parties, but sitting up the back with the other mages gripping your wand or staff the rest of the time. If you like magic and melee, drk, pld or blu would be better choices.

Oh, and level your subjob to above where you need it right now, so it can last you for a while, ie. war18/thf7, you should have your thf at least 9, and prefrerably at 15 so it can lasr your war to 30.

Remember not to rush, take your time to experiment with the jobs and find one you like. Good luck ^^

yeah my theif is 9 i might just have forgot to change it and i need to level that and my blm up cause im 15 now and thats only 7

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I think the biggest advice you need is...





DON'T USE "NETSPEAK"!


Good lord, if "'ud stop tlkin like this so we cud red wut ur sayin insted of luking at it and our i's bledin lol", it would be a lot easier to get a response.

It says you hardly ANY time to say "you" over "u". And Punctuation is your friend.


Using net-speak might work in other games, but in FFXI, you NEED to speak properly.

yeah iv been yelled at for it before. this was an older post that i restarted up with a new reply, so my net speaking has gotten better

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and yeah i do use blm for sub rdm, but i heard around 50ish ishould change to whm?????

[Ellipses]

Whether you use /BLM or /WHM for RDM largely depends on your party make-up, what you're fighting, your gear, etc. If your party has a WHM and no BLM, you're better off subbing BLM. If they have a BLM and no WHM, you might be better off subbing WHM, especially if you're going to be fighting something that has a lot of status-effect attacks (poison, paralyze, etc.). You should have them both leveled. And like someone else already said, it's a good idea to pre-level your subjobs at least a few levels, so that it never lags behind. (And also so you don't have to worry about it for a while; that's why a lot of people just level their subjobs all the way to 37 in one big push and then never touch them again.)

[Ravd]

lol my main job isnt even close to 37 yet lol so ill work on that first

[Taskmage]

Imo, there's not much reason to sub blm instead of whm before level 34 for Warp or level 40 for Conserve MP. The difference in mp is miniscule and /whm gives you a lot of useful status cures and Curaga. I subbed almost exclusively whm until the mid 30s and since then I've used only blm unless the party's target mobs have strong status attacks.

I meleed in every party I had until 30. With Enspell my damage wasn't all that bad, and you're much less busy at that point since you mostly just enfeeble and backup cure and your spells don't get resisted as much. At 32 when you get Dispel things get much busier, and as you progress through the 30s you see your melee attacks get less and less potent. If you haven't stopped meleeing by 41 when you get Refresh, stop. If you're doing your job right at that point, keeping up with Refresh, Dispel, enfeebles, curing, and later Haste, you will be so busy casting spells you won't have time to think about swinging a sword anyway.

[Ravd]

y do people say u should get to 37??? is it just because its half of 75 or is there some good like ablility there

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[avhmia]

y do people say u should get to 37??? is it just because its half of 75 or is there some good like ablility there

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Because it's half of 75. :p

Paladins and Dark Knights get Flash and Stun (respectively) at 37. NIN, famously, gets Utsusemi: NI. I'm sure some other jobs get something nifty at that level as well, but yeah, the main reason to level a job to 37 is so that it won't be gimped when subbed at level 74+.

[Ravd]

ooo ok ty