omg ... wtf ... lolorz?

[Aeni]

Worst BLM ever. I won't name this player ... but I'll post some screenies later (I'll go blur names out ... ain't I nice?)

Anyway, if you really wanna know and you're from Hades, PM me.

Don't waste time partying with this player.

And another reason why JPs hate NA.

:vent::vent::vent:

[Jei]

it's one of the rare dead fish that ruin us all eh ^^;

[Mog]

This I've gotta see.

Was he meleeing?

Better yet, was he nuking the living hell out of the mob?

[Aeni]

Screens 1, 2 and 3 ...

Double Post Edited:
Screen 4 ...

So ... here's the deal.

I get this invite from this BLM. We'll name the BLM sux0r. So, sux0r then tells me if I would mind main healing. At this point, I go on LS and say, omg I should've listened to you Bob! Bob's all like, see, no one ever listens to me. I told you not to take that invite.

I offered to change my sub to WHM and main heal. Aren't I nice? :rolleyes:

Once the PT is assembled, we couldn't figure out where to camp. sux0r was clueless as hell and it was the NIN that ended up taking control of the PT and organizing everything.

We fought our first borer beetle. This fight drained me of my MP. What I noticed was that this BLM was not healing at all. Nuking hard from the first voke and I ended up healing sux0r.

This continued until the 4th fight, where we were in front of the Banishing Gate. I couldn't SS or anything because I was way too busy watching people's HP and keeping them alive.

BTW, did I tell you that sux0r invited me into a party of 32s ... I was 34 with very little tnl to 35 ... >.> There was another RDM who was 33 ...

Well, karma was good to me. The disaster party disbanded, I was in stunned disbelief that such a thing occurred and went to Jeuno. Stayed in MH for all of 10 min before getting an invite. Mix JP and NA, we pulled in massive exp and I got 2 levels in an hour.

That at least made up for the bad experience.

[Balfree]

on the topic of main healing rdm..

i do it all the time, up until 47 (thats where i'm at atm) ive almost allways been main healer since i was in a set without a whm

honestly? i think it beats the crap out of refreshx4 and around 5 debuffs, wash rinse and repeat it got boring fast, with main healing pts go like WOAH! busy busy busy D:

well i like it <.<

and thats horribly off topic >.>

on that blm i say.. "no" D:

[Kildem]

This guy is........... ugh.

[Jei]

remeinds me of the notorious noob blm on my server... his name begins with a D. I think Titan players know who im talking about.

[Jarre]

I noticed on the fourth image near the bottom, it wouldn't allow you to Blacklist the blm, have you managed to blist him now?

sounds like "it" had an attitude. I love the game but it really gets at me when an arsehole (sorry in fuming mode :vent: ) who doesn't care about the party only that it gets what it wants out of it, blow everyone else. Where was the warning, find another player I'm loggin in 20 minutes, where were his tactics? (other than nuke and nuke and make sure I'm healed (even though it could have done it itself)) Bought character? or just a P poor attitude to everything. It sounds like you were doing your best to keep the party together and alive, well done. I have been in many parties where people don't listen, they do "what they wish, F everyone else" i.e. pulling before mages have chance to heal then call everyone stupid (or other more harsh comments) for not healing properly when the party is defeated.

This unfortunately goes with the territory, I love having parties that work and hate it when noobs or aragant players are in a party who want to do things their way and not listen to the general consensus.

On a positive note I was invited into a party (I was Galka RDM lvl 12) in the dunes, party consisted of lvl 9 war (don't ask) lvl 12 whm, lvl 11blm, lvl 10 sum/whm lvl 11 bard/whm (and me of course). The partying situation in the dunes Sunday night was terrible so we made do with a high end mage party. War was useless so i tanked as a RDM/war and did pretty well. no one died, the whm and blm were Jp's and were very good at their jobs. The leader, an American who was sum/whm congratulated me, when i had to leave the party for how well i did my job, it was funny his last comment "Thank you for not being a noob" it made my night that comment.

The moral of the story is it doesdn't matter what you have in the party, if you can work together and all know how to use your jobs, you will do well. Learn your job, play it well and you'll get recognised and get a good repuation where decent parties will start to invite you, the aragant and selfish players and the non moving noobs (i.e. don't want to learn) will be left behind.

[Gawaine]

on the second thumb i think you missed blurring his name once hehe

[Jei]

on the second thumb i think you missed blurring his name once hehe ... hmm someone casted water II...

[Kildem]

Wisdom...

Great Gawaine for noticing it.

[Mog]

So much for the name-blurring....

[Gawaine]

if im ever on Hades server ill be sure to stay away from him

[TheGrandMom]

Well I can't tell much about the pt from the screenies really. I see someone telling someone to heal a lot and then someone leaving the pt. I'm assuming the person being told to heal is the blm and the person leaving is the blm. Can't tell how long the pt stayed together by the chat though. Also hard to see what job was being healed so much since all the names are blurred. Ninja taking too much dmg? Might have been a combination of a bad blm and other bad members, just kind of hard to tell.

I really hate blms with the "I'm only a nuker" mentality though. When I play my blm in pick up pts, I ALWAYS get someone /t'ing me thanking me for healing so I really don't understand blm's that refuse to do it. I had one blm tell me that if he could get away with it he would not sub any job or sub nin. In his eyes, blms don't naturally come with cure spells so why should he cure? Mind you he's lvl 75 and brags about never EVER curing through all his lvls.

[Sharinu]

Don't think I've ever PT'd with our Water II'er. It's unfortunate that people don't realize how difficult it really can be with a RDM or SMN main healing...also with a Ninja pre-Utsu: Ni it seems? I've had experiences where I have died several times as a result of a BLM not healing me, it's frustrating to say the least.

[Taskmage]

The "I'm paying for this game and I'll play it however I want" line always rubs me the wrong way beacuse it entirely disregards that everyone else is paying too and you're affecting their play experiences as well.

So, bad blm I guess .. don't really get a clear picture from the screens. I can't criticize much since I'm terrible at rationing hate when I play blm also, but really by the time you're out of the jungles you should have learned not to nuke full tilt right from the first voke.

I've had worse though. I partied with a rdm once who had this metality that if he threw out a single cure then hell itself would open up and devour the party, because his 75rdm friend told him rdms shouldn't heal. /sigh The behavior itself wasn't so much of a problem as the fact that he decided to abuse other members of the party for suggesting such an absurd idea. :rolleyes: Rdm healing indeed. *huff*

My order of preference for party members: Cool people with 1337 skill - Nice people with no skill - Jerks with 1337 skill - Jerks with no skill
I can't tell whether your blm falls into tier 2 or 4, but I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and assume 2.

[TheGrandMom]

The "I'm paying for this game and I'll play it however I want" line always rubs me the wrong way beacuse it entirely disregards that everyone else is paying too and you're affecting their play experiences as well.



So true, so true! That attitude makes a person like that go on my do not pt with list and "you get a no vote if you apply to my ls" list. Yes, we all pay to play the game but this isn't an offline game. You interact with other human beings in this game and they do pay to play the game too. It doesn't give you the right to make their experience playing a bad one because its the way you want to play. Thats like someone saying "I'll get cell calls and chat all I want in the movie theatre because I paid with my hard earned money to watch this movie so I'll do as I please." It's just not acceptable. I wish more people would keep lists of players like this and refuse to pt with them. If 1/2 the server wouldn't give them the time of day, I think there might be a slight adjustment in how they look at things eventually.

[Aeni]

:eek:

Sorry about the mis-blur. I will ... fix it ... later. I'm at work and can't get remote accesss to my FRAPs folder. OMG I r teh sux wif fotoshop >.<

Well I can't tell much about the pt from the screenies really. I see someone telling someone to heal a lot and then someone leaving the pt. I'm assuming the person being told to heal is the blm and the person leaving is the blm. Can't tell how long the pt stayed together by the chat though. Also hard to see what job was being healed so much since all the names are blurred. Ninja taking too much dmg? Might have been a combination of a bad blm and other bad members, just kind of hard to tell.

The party didn't stay together for long. :rofl: Can you guess why? :cry:

Anyway, I only screened the last two fights (or was it really just one fight, because a party below us started spamming avatars -- chamber beetle PT -- and my filters failed me) The reason being that this was mostly on what the exchange was.

The PT was actually decent, but there was way too much melee and not enough mp. The problem was that I was 34 ... one other player 33 (Ninja) and the rest were 32. So of course, at 32, these monsters are really challenging, no matter what your expertise or skill level. At 34, these aren't bad and at 35 is when the exp becomes really *really* good.

And yeah, you can't tell too well because the names are blurred, but for the sake of not having people's name drawn out ... alas for that BLM, it's too little too late >.>a

I should forward my screens to Gawaine for proofing before I upload. :rofl:

[Gawaine]

lol hey i just have a good eye is all. it was a good effort anyways if i were you i would want people to know that fool for being ignorant to the parties needs

[TheGrandMom]

The PT was actually decent, but there was way too much melee and not enough mp. The problem was that I was 34 ... one other player 33 (Ninja) and the rest were 32. So of course, at 32, these monsters are really challenging, no matter what your expertise or skill level. At 34, these aren't bad and at 35 is when the exp becomes really *really* good.



This is one of the things I HATE about this game. I don't have the best memory and trying to remember at what lvl the exp drops in each zone is a pain in my patoot! Now for new players, they just plain don't know and I can't even help them with it! LOL Does anyone know of a chart where someone compiled all this type of info? What I'm basically looking for is info on different areas where you exp, what lvls are good to exp there, AND what lvl you ding at that makes the exp absolute poop! I know the first two basically but its the last one, when you hit that certain lvl and exp drops like a stone, that I just can't seem to remember! I need to buy some Ginkgo biloba..... :P

[Mog]

That would be fricken awesome. I make a lot of parties, and it would really be helpful to have a guide on where to party at my level.

but on topic, that black mage needs to learn a thing or two about hate control....

[Aeni]

This is one of the things I HATE about this game. I don't have the best memory and trying to remember at what lvl the exp drops in each zone is a pain in my patoot! Now for new players, they just plain don't know and I can't even help them with it! LOL Does anyone know of a chart where someone compiled all this type of info? What I'm basically looking for is info on different areas where you exp, what lvls are good to exp there, AND what lvl you ding at that makes the exp absolute poop! I know the first two basically but its the last one, when you hit that certain lvl and exp drops like a stone, that I just can't seem to remember! I need to buy some Ginkgo biloba..... :P

http://mysterytour.web.infoseek.co.jp/ffxi/us/tips/hunt.htm

This is kind of outdated and some of the information is a bit ... meh. I mean, they tell you what's "appropriate" but don't take into account of these situations:


Tank is a ninja or paladin?
Main healer is a whitemage or another mage?
Do you have a blackmage?
Is your party geared optimally or are they woefully inadequate?
Food?
Knowledge of the zone/terrain?
Seriously, I cannot tell you how many times the first point crops up in all my mishaps with finding exp camps on my first main. Many times our static party just had to live it to believe it and felt the exp was great. Other times we literally wanted to quit the game, thinking that what we experienced in one place was a foreshadowing of things to come...

BTW, our static only had 2 mages and a paladin tank. Yes, it was a harsh life (Pre-sushi, Pre-COP, first main for everyone)

[Taskmage]

This one is good too: http://campsitarus.blogspot.com/

This guide (http://ffxi.somepage.com/links/exp_table.html) on somepage has a bunch of charts and mathematical explanation of how the game determines how much experience you get per kill. It seems like before level 50 there's a big hit to the exp you get when someone gets within 4 levels of the mobs you're fighting.

[Mog]

sweeeett. I;m gonna print this bad-boy out. Thanks a lot. :thumbsup:

[TheGrandMom]

This one is good too: http://campsitarus.blogspot.com/

This guide (http://ffxi.somepage.com/links/exp_table.html) on somepage has a bunch of charts and mathematical explanation of how the game determines how much experience you get per kill. It seems like before level 50 there's a big hit to the exp you get when someone gets within 4 levels of the mobs you're fighting.

You can always count on FFXIO'ers! /bow

[Jei]

I never have a static exp PT due to my random play time D:
For my CoP static, twice a week I have to wake up at 3AM because they schedule for mission around thai time ><

[Taiko]

For a minute I thought the BLM was me, and soon realised it wasn't.

I've always been relatively good with hate control, think the only time I tend to pull hate is on the 1600 MB's I pull out from time to time. Or if the tank is lazy as I've found. I had a PLD in Bibiki Bay the other day who rarely done anything to keep hate other than provoke. I took hate from him in 3 spells, Choke, Shock and Thunder 1. Wasn't brilliant, but I had nothing better to do.

People need to learn their jobs though, and I've always believed the reason for people not knowing them is that they've been PL'd all their lives. When I leveled RDM to 37, I put in my search comment "PL {No Thanks}". With that, I ended up soloing to Lv19, then hitting Qufim. Even then there were still the PL's, so I spent a while soloing worms.

[Ellamir]

My bf (Arcadio) plays too, so basically we static all our jobs (with the exception of my BLM, which i may someday take up lfp) and we also have good combinations for them to make up a third of a working party. (THF+NIN, RDM+PLD, NIN+WHM, etc)

With our curent mains, BRD and DRG, we had a static with the only other person from my country, Kata, from levels 10 to 50. When midgame levels came, i chose to disband the static, because they were our first lvl50's, and we preferred to go through the process of GKs and AFs without being pushed by him, cause his endgame LS wanted another NIN, so he was rushing to get his third job to 75.

we played just the 2 of us and got invited to parties or made our own, until at level 60 we picked up 2 other LightWarrior linkshell members, and we stood together, with Daraco to 70 and Guildenstern to 75.

static pt pros: you need less pickup members, you can rely 100% on your static, you get used to their abilities and know how to work to your max.
cons: you dont get to see many different job combinations (i never did a ~burn until merit pt), you need to wait on each other, and you cant learn of a neat new place where you may have gone if you had been invited to pick-up.