anyone have any idea if there will EVER be male Mithras Officaly Playable i got a few ideas how they can look (Attachments) and if SE ever did that i would instantly make a Male Mithra in a Heart Beat Named Kyero, Kitsune, Fox or maybe Nogitsune(evil Kitsunes)

S-E said "some day"

SE's going to have to make it to where all the manthras can switch over to the male mithra characters. Otherwise, there's no point of having male mithras introduced in the game.

OP:

That brings another question, do any male mithra NPC's exist in the game?

If I remember correctly, the story says that male mithras are a kind of protected species given the implication that they are "rare". Man, that must be lots of fun.... the honor to be with lots of Mithra girls.... :P

Kept to keep the population up. :P

Yes that true BUT! they said "Some Day"

which means the story can change ... prob something like

1. Male Mithras have Raisen to Fight along side there love ones
2. Male Mithra are sick and tired of being Dormant from the world and want to get out to Fight! and explore insted of having the Woman do the work
3. Female Mithra are Tired of there lazy asses and kick them out lol >.>

so many ways to change the story...

1. Male Mithras have Raisen to Fight along side there love ones
2. Male Mithra are sick and tired of being Dormant from the world and want to get out to Fight! and explore insted of having the Woman do the work
3. Female Mithra are Tired of there lazy asses and kick them out lol >.>


4. Male mithra's are getting jealous of all the tarus sleeping with the mithras.

>.>;

HAHAHHAHHAHAHAAH!....................... no never will happen

if a TaruTaru male even got close to a Mithra in that way.

Kyero uses Sneak Attack
Kyero uses Trick Attack
Kyero readies Tachi: Gekko
Kyero uses Tachi:Gekko
Kyero hits <insert Random Tarutaru Name here> for 5210 Damage
<Insert random TaruTaru name here> is Killed by Kyero
*Spits on Taru Guts on the Floor*

Kyero Fox "AKA: Mithra Guardian/Protecter"

The instruction book says the the Males never venture into the 'outside world'.
So... expect Male mithras to look something like the average American nerd.

uh i think they will most likely look like the Pic i posted here or something like these guys (see attachments)

I'm personally really not looking forward to male mithra characters, let alone playable ones. Mithra's have always had a only-female image in the game... It'd ruin it if there would be male ones. Well, my gameplay would be destroyed. And I don't even do RP or anything.

I thought "Some day" was in reference to a question of "will we ever see male mithra" not "will they every be playable" though I wasn't at Santa Monica so I don't know what the actual question asked was.

Those 2 pics u posted...The one on the left which was cg, im curious but isnt that the cat dude from Chrono Cross??

Correct me if wrong :P

yea it's lynx

I guess the males are all locked up in a harlem and not allowed to even walk out of his room. He has repruduction jobs to be done... all day all night.

I doubt theyre complaining

"Hmm should i go out and adventure and risk dying? Or should i stay here and be seduced by one if not many females? Hmm tough choice...........*sigh*"

=P

lol correct there you are.

this is how i see it realy if SE would make it where Males in RL cant make Mithras i would care less if they made Male Mithras because having Guys Walk around as Females and pretend they are and mess with others like Straight guys or Lesbians. Saying oh im a Girl in RL hehehe ^^ BS there are a lot of Sick people in this word so there .... What am i saying I do care if they put Male mithra in the game

but whats so wrong about having Cat guys..... cant us GUYS! in RL have some Fun? oh and Sweetkitty if u dont RP how will it effect you? i doesnt make sense. having males suddenly come out to the world to fight witht here Mates would open up a whole Can of RPing for us RPers. also im tired of being a Hume and im not gona be Elvaan because.
1. Stupid Emots
2.Gorilla Arms
3. they act all that

im sertainly not gona be some Small ass big headed Sissy boy character(TaruTaru) for that reason only and im not gona be some Giant Sexless Tank and i never make a Character the Opps sex of me. and ill never leave FFXI(completly) so the only alternative is Male Mithra some Day


anyways did u know that Even Male Cats, Dogs and W.e Actualy get tired of having sex all the time. also maybe all the Mithras are falling for the Other Males? if i was a Mithra i wouldnt want my Man (... god i cant belive im even saying this) to be sitting around waiting for my ass lol.. also its been over 400 years sense the war or .. something i forgot realy. anyways dont you think over that time there would be enough Male Mithra to let them out. i Mean COME ON if there constatly Fing it on all day and night i think they would. if i was a Male Mithra i would prob get tired of :shocked: you know and wona do something Challanging.

and the question they answered about Male Mithra was true. straight from SE Q&A

So..

<Male> <Mithra> <Yes Please!> <Not Today But Someday>

and yea that is lynx, Lynx kicks ass ... Bahamut Ass too.

lol correct there you are.

if i was a Mithra i wouldnt want my Man (... god i cant belive im even saying this) to be sitting around waiting for my ass lol.. also its been over 400 years sense the war or .. something i forgot realy. anyways dont you think over that time there would be enough Male Mithra to let them out. i Mean COME ON if there constatly Fing it on all day and night i think they would. if i was a Male Mithra i would prob get tired of :shocked: you know and wona do something Challanging.



I would wait for your ass if i was a male mithra :thumbsup:

And i think they see having more than one female mithra "Challanging" :evil:


Alright anyways back on track, I always thought it was nice to have 3 races with both genders and 2 single gender races. Kinda made it i dont know eh unique? But to be honest i thought they made the Galkans so ugly that i would actually put a thumbs up for a male mithra =P

But if you think about it, if you make a male mithra available, the mithra race wont seem so unique dont you think? it will eventually branch out to be being "normal" race as Hume, Elvaan and Taru are. I dont know this is just me rambling on........ *goes and fills up another cup of coffee*

:cool:

yyyeeaaa ooooooooook that was ... creapy.

the only prob i have with Guys making Female Characters is if they Lie about Being a Female in RL... its just wrong .. if a guy made a Mithra and Said they are male in RL its ok.

and i dont give a rats ass if its unique. you see WoW ALL THE races have male and Female when in the Warcraft games u only see Female NE and Male Orcs and Trolls but whats this OH there are females Orcs and Trolls and NE Men in the game O.O

The Races dont make the game Unique ITS THE GAME THAT MAKES THE GAME UNIQUE

the game play, the Quests,the Story, the monsters, the Bosses,the NPC, many many things in the game make it unique its self.

its not like people are gona say "oh no they made male Mithras IM GONA KILL MY SELF .. or just stop playing"

i bet if everyone who played FFXI Voted if they wanted Male Mithras Most of them would say HELL YES!

personaly no MMO should have a 1sex race. it messes with peoples minds when some GUY! is playing a Female character and they ACT female for kicks or to get stuff...

I would have played a male mithra if the option had been avaliable ... I was a big fan of Kimahri

I would be especially pleased to choose that race now, considering that they've added blue mage :thumbsup:

When I first started I wanted to be a mithra, but I didn't wanna have to deal with gender ambiguity, so I went Taru instead.

BRING ON THE RACE CHANGE!

Mithra is actually one of those long forgotten mythological societies. I'm sure everyone's familiar with how Square fits those into it's games.

The "Mithran" society was one of very few men. Men were regarded by the Mithran Women as sacred, because the large majority of the population was women, who would do ALL of the hunting, cooking, governement, and even religious activities.

Bringing a playable Male Mithra into the game would be going again the ideals of the mythological Mithra, and therefore SE will probably/hopefully never do it.

(In regards to previous post of Kyero Fox)



OK WHOAH CALM DOWN *runs away in fear*

I personally think its pretty cool with one sex races (but thats my opinion) And second of all you cant just compare the game to WoW and then say that it shuold follow it. Yes its true what you say abuot RL guys playing as a female and then saying they are in RL females. Thats creepy.

Secondly i was just saying that it was a unique aspect of the game the thing with the single gender races. I didnt mean that just that aspect made FF11 "unique".

And i did say i would say yes for a mithra male.

Btw there are male night elves in WC3 *cough* Ilidan *cough*

ANYWAYS, final conclusion yes i think it would be a nice addition with a male mithra. The question is then, would anyone wanna see a female Galka? ;)

Female Galkas would be so hawt.

from the Dev panel:

There are no female galkas, except on the internet.

We might see male mithras someday (doesn't imply playable though).

I am inclinded to agree with Neighbortaru and others that think we'll probably "see" male mithra- as in NPC form, but they wont be playable by players

hell yea Kimahri hmmm it might be possible Male Mithra actualy look like that ... Without the Horn of corse :P

also i bet the Few Classes Male mithra would be good at ....(Mithra) is Blue Mage and Corisar<--- so gona be a Vincent Rip off >.> or Ivrian(cow boy from FF8)

too the last 2 posts before me

that might be so but .. you have to think realy ... if they did make it NPC only SE would get a Bunch of hate mail saying "WTH why didnt u make them playable" also

if ur gona make NPC's there gona have emotions and if they do that WHY not make them playable?

Most of my friends left FFXI because of the Sex mix with Mithra.. they got sick of it and went to WoW because there is none realy besides weird people in RL.
If SE did make Male Mithra Playable it would Spark a lot of lost FFXI players to come back and Make SE even more money.

I dont see any bad reason of Making Male Mithra playable do you?

If they added a new race, they'd probably also need to allow existing players to change their race, which would be kind of a problem with RSE and whanot. Not too big an issue, though.

Yadda yadda yadda ... Most of my friends left FFXI because of the Sex mix with Mithra.. they got sick of it and went to WoW because there is none realy besides weird people in RL. ... etc, etc, etc.

My wife plays WoW. I've watched it.

You're going to honestly tell me, or believe yourself, that over half of WoW's population is made up of female players and 'wierd' people. (|No Thanks.|)

There are just as many wierd people, and if your friend left because Male Players play a character that has stat bonuses over other races, then maybe He's the one with issues. Aside from the Mythological History of "Real" Mithra's, and considering the type of society they would have in the game, they are actually more of a Mal-Type character anyway.

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Their's no reason why SE needs to sacrifice story line and "historical" accurracy to make a new PC based on a small population. Especially, when that Race would lack any kind of usefull bonus unless they added Skill-Ups for 'idle' and eating.

Their's no reason why SE needs to sacrifice story line and "historical" accurracy to make a new PC based on a small population. Especially, when that Race would lack any kind of usefull bonus unless they added Skill-Ups for 'idle' and eating.lol. i envision male mithras to look like garfield all of the sudden :biggrin:

My wife plays WoW. I've watched it.

You're going to honestly tell me, or believe yourself, that over half of WoW's population is made up of female players and 'wierd' people. (|No Thanks.|)

There are just as many wierd people, and if your friend left because Male Players play a character that has stat bonuses over other races, then maybe He's the one with issues. Aside from the Mythological History of "Real" Mithra's, and considering the type of society they would have in the game, they are actually more of a Mal-Type character anyway.

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Their's no reason why SE needs to sacrifice story line and "historical" accurracy to make a new PC based on a small population. Especially, when that Race would lack any kind of usefull bonus unless they added Skill-Ups for 'idle' and eating.

I played WoW prob more than ur wife and im going back when the Expansion comes. and no most of the people on WoW are guys and sometimes women and some times Guys playing Females because "I want something to look at when they play" or something like that. which isnt a Problem. im only saying that when a Guy plays a Female Character and ACTS to be a Female and LIES its weird and makes somepeople unpleased. i also some times meet a Guy character who is actualy female in RL which is reasonable because some women dont wona be Flirted, Hit on, or sexualy Harrased by other players.

another thing how could Male Mithras mess up the story? they already mentioned Male Mithras in the Story. Time dont stay still in RL so i would asume that the Population if Male Mithra would Grow and be able to Roam the world. all they have to do is say " over the years the Male Mithra have been Dormant from the world yada yada. now the time has come for the Male Mithra to Rise and Fight by there love ones(mates w.e they want)"

and if i offended you in any way of what i said im sorry :(

i realy need to stop bring other MMOs into the game lol

lol. i envision male mithras to look like garfield all of the sudden :biggrin:

lol i dont think so :rofl:

If they added a new race, they'd probably also need to allow existing players to change their race, which would be kind of a problem with RSE and whanot. Not too big an issue, though.

if SE decides to add another Race it will be Mithra Males. if they added a entarely NEW race THAT would Mess up the Story

I don't think an option to switch race would be so bad ... as long as it was controled. You can already switch nations and also servers should the need arise.

Does alot of the limitations with char customization come from the Ps2?
Frankly, I think SE should look into more options for customization in the future .... since the Ps2 is getting rather old ... but maybe that's just me looking for an exuse to support my wishfull thinking.

OH .. you could be a BST and have the horn :-D

im only saying that when a Guy plays a Female Character and ACTS to be a Female and LIES its weird and makes somepeople unpleased. i also some times meet a Guy character who is actualy female in RL which is reasonable because some women dont wona be Flirted, Hit on, or sexualy Harrased by other players.

You'll only have this problem is you treat a MMORPG like a sleazy cybersex channel. WoW + RP server has occasionally reminded me of a/s/l spamming in IRC. Don't play WoW anymore but I'd bet you they're still around.

Remember, RP is like folk dance - it sounds nice but they'll both eventually turn into sex.

i sincerely doubt they will allow you to switch races in the future. someone even asked in the dev panel if it would be possible to change your character appearance in the future and the answer was a quick no.

IF they added male mithras as a playable race, you'll probably have to start over to get it.

im only saying that when a Guy plays a Female Character and ACTS to be a Female and LIES its weird and makes somepeople unpleased. i also some times meet a Guy character who is actualy female in RL which is reasonable because some women dont wona be Flirted, Hit on, or sexualy Harrased by other players.


Does that really happen ... i've never encountered any "flirting" in an MMORPG.

I really don't give too much thought about the real gender of the player as long as they do their job

.. hell I played the crap out of some Tomb Raider back in the day ... and i've never had any gender confusion .. LOL :biggrin:

Alright anyways back on track, I always thought it was nice to have 3 races with both genders and 2 single gender races. Kinda made it i dont know eh unique? But to be honest i thought they made the Galkans so ugly that i would actually put a thumbs up for a male mithra =P




Nice work, you made Bog cry.

Bog: Mean man say Bog ugly! ; ;

Lenny: It's ok Bog, don't listen to that mean person. I know! I'll make you a sandwich! You want a sandwich?

Bog: Bog would like sandwich, but Bog needs hug more. ; ;

Lenny: *Gives Bog a big hug*

So...I'm dumb. Anyway, Galkas = <3.

Just so I'm not completely off topic, male Mithras would probably not work as playable characters for reasons mentioned above concerning their mythological background. However, SE isn't very accurate concerning alot of their mythological creatures, so eh..Though I wouldn't mind seeing one in a cutscene or something. Though he'd probably be rather submissive and lazy.

Does that really happen ... i've never encountered any "flirting" in an MMORPG.



I really don't give too much thought about the real gender of the player as long as they do their job



.. hell I played the crap out of some Tomb Raider back in the day ... and i've never had any gender confusion .. LOL

lol your lucky i guess >.> but yea lots of my Female Friends in RL and in Games tell me they get Hit on or w.e

i sincerely doubt they will allow you to switch races in the future. someone even asked in the dev panel if it would be possible to change your character appearance in the future and the answer was a quick no.



IF they added male mithras as a playable race, you'll probably have to start over to get it.

i dont think so if u have a Mithra character. Possibly POSSIBLY be able to Swich it to a Male if you realy want to. you would prob have to sacrafice some of the RSE gear and Sex Gear.
not sure but im not worried about that lol i dont have a Mithra.

Personaly i would Totaly Start over as a Male Mithra and Go THF,SAM,COR all over again.

You'll only have this problem is you treat a MMORPG like a sleazy cybersex channel. WoW + RP server has occasionally reminded me of a/s/l spamming in IRC. Don't play WoW anymore but I'd bet you they're still around.



Remember, RP is like folk dance - it sounds nice but they'll both eventually turn into sex.

I dont Flirt in game but i love to RP and it doesnt end up in Sex. i Basicly RP in every MMO a Male Kitsune or Yoko that has sliped through into the world SOMEHOW and Posseses a male Child of the Human Race of the Game unless they have a Male Humaniod Race lets say Male Mithra. in FFXI's Case a Hume that doesnt want any relation ship with anyone. but just wants to get back to where he came. if i happen to meet a Female Character and is Female in RL maybe i would change that only if the Relation ship in RL got close which it did ... once but i dont wona talk about it ........


lets say they wont make them playable. I got no problem with that i'll continue my male Hume. But if they do i wouldnt hesiatate to make a one just like many others would

I can undertstand where you're comin from Kyero, and btw, I'm rarely offended. See my current Red Light List as to what offends me >=)

But, for SE to bring in PLAYABLE Male Mithra's would be to go against their ideal of Mithra characters to begin with. I agree with people that they should have a FEW in the storyline, but even then it would have to be some remote area that's not easily traversed due to the fact that the very few Mithran Males are completely protected and isolated by their counterparts. I'm talking like, "Lord of the Rings" type travelling to reach this Holy Land of Mithra's.

I can undertstand where you're comin from Kyero, and btw, I'm rarely offended. See my current Red Light List as to what offends me >=)

But, for SE to bring in PLAYABLE Male Mithra's would be to go against their ideal of Mithra characters to begin with. I agree with people that they should have a FEW in the storyline, but even then it would have to be some remote area that's not easily traversed due to the fact that the very few Mithran Males are completely protected and isolated by their counterparts. I'm talking like, "Lord of the Rings" type travelling to reach this Holy Land of Mithra's.

your right. But what if they do decide to make them Playable. how do u think the Story would be effected? i think my self it wouldnt hurt because Many MANY years have passed sense the war and with all the constant mating they would sometime in life wont have to keep them protected like the Night Elf Men in Warcraft. there was only one NE Male in the whole game.

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That's becasue all them Non-Wierdo playing Manthra are tired of getting flirted with, lmao! There's interest in pressing the topic.

Lol hahaha i guess

a Reason im tired of not being able to be Male Mithra is because that NPC Mithra Bitch in Kazham thats bitching why would a mithra want a mate that cant keep the sent of there Pray. And she says it the Everyone including to Male Humes and Elvaan

i so wona slap her and say "Why do we need to keep there Sent when there gona be Dead also if they even get away we could track them down like a Hunter Tracks Deers and such"

if u track something down by there Sent it can easly be False and lead you into a Trap

Death by snoo snoo has probably claimed most of what little men existed in the Mithran society.

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actualy i just remembered something. if they did Ever make Playable Male Mithra i will prob be playing Middle Earth Online :wasted: depending if its good or not also i will prob be spending lost free time on MEO or Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion....regardless

if they do make them Playable... WHootz im making one.

if they DONT make them playable ... ooohhh well :cry: ....:rofl:

1 thing SE Could do that would make everyone happy is ... MORE CHARACTER CREATION CHOICES

Lol hahaha i guess
why would a mithra want a mate that cant keep the sent of there Pray

I was assuming male mithras didn't hunt prey .. LOL

as for the storyline .. maybe someone is cloning them .. ;)

I was assuming male mithras didn't hunt prey .. LOL

as for the storyline .. maybe someone is cloning them .. ;)

lol .... i still want to Bitch slap her and stab her in the Gut with my Great Katana for being a complete Dumb ass.

Character Creation choices is already a good sounding NO. As long as PS2 is supported there is memory issues to consider which defeats that option. Which if you read the stuff posted at the last conference confirmed that, the SE rep even apologized for it *sheesh*.

As for Male Mithra's you have consider not only the Mythology (Hebrew if I remember right) but that they are also Cat Elves as the manual stated. Being so they carry many qualities of a society that cats do, that means that the Females are the adventurers, hunters, gatherers, etc...

In the cat society the males only major role is to protect their main territory and reproduction, in this case the main territory it would be the Mithra's true homeland. To make one that adventures out in the sense being stated just breaks that societies order. Even though Sweetkitty doesn't RP her opposition to the change shows her to be an RPer at heart, so lay off the underhanded attack statements like presented to her.

As far as anyone complaining if a Male Mithra NPC was made and not playable then yeah... why not complain that you can't play a goblin, or a child character (Who cares if you can wear a costume right?). Common major part of this fight is an groups ego and gender issues vs. RPers view. With one guy almost sounding like he's tried to use the game as a dating service for some silly reason, if you believe the person to be female and turns out they are not it's solely your fault.

Just RP the game and keep your RL issues out of the damn thing as much as possible, you'll be better off and the others playing it can have more fun with it.

you know what your right everything you said is right but the part about "With one guy almost sounding like he's tried to use the game as a dating service for some silly reason."

i never attended to make it a Dating service i played the game just as a Game and somehow got into a relation ship with someone.

and the Fact that i dont give a rats ass if they make Male Mithra at all

if they do(for some reason) Cool im gona make one
if they dont(and they wont) Oh Freakin well..


"Fin"

Solly, no mare mithla fol you! PS2 rimitations!

I always wanted to see a male mithra NPC. I always pictured them as a kind of chieftan/pimp hybrid. Keepin' their "hoes" in check with backhands, wearing gaudy facepaint and loincloths, etc.

Im fine with them just making NPC because that means ill just make a Mod that my Hume Male will look like them .... at least Try. the same way they did for Avatars such as Garuda or w.e

they prob would look like this

I think if they kept the game the way it is, that's enough for me. Additional races or sex to races (pun intended) isn't needed nor is it necessary to continue the story, even if NPCs were not added, the story won't crash and burn. The game is successful and will continue to be, even without these proposed changes.

Honestly I'm a guy I have no issues playing my mithra. If they made male mithra playable it would destroy the storyline in my opinion. I do not see myself as werid and when people hit on me I just laugh it off because it doesn't bother me. If you wanted to play a mithra and be a male well then the mithra isn't the race for you bottom line.

My question is how would it ruin the story line? I have yet to see the mithras say anything about the males anywhere in the game, therefor they would not ruin the story line, they can just stack it by adding a male mithra. =P of corse i would be glad to be a male mithra, but i am a hume male at the moment and it does not bug me. (^_^; all though theres times i was a taru)

They didn't say Male Mithras would be playable, they said we would see them.

anyone have any idea if there will EVER be male Mithras Officaly Playable i got a few ideas how they can look (Attachments) and if SE ever did that i would instantly make a Male Kitsune in a Heart Beat Named Kyero, Kitsune, Fox or maybe Nogitsune(evil Kitsunes Basicly)

If they made a Kitsune I would go over to their offices bearing fresh sacrafices for their servers.

My question is how would it ruin the story line? I have yet to see the mithras say anything about the males anywhere in the game, therefor they would not ruin the story line, they can just stack it by adding a male mithra. =P of corse i would be glad to be a male mithra, but i am a hume male at the moment and it does not bug me. (^_^; all though theres times i was a taru)

amen brother

If they made a Kitsune I would go over to their offices bearing fresh sacrafices for their servers.


*Eye twiches* i wanted to say something like that but i kept thinking people would laugh. personaly if SE told me they would make Kitsunes or Yoko if i killed someone and they would cover it so i wouldnt go to Jail i would go Ape Shit and Punch who everys head off they wanted :evil: lol but that will NEVER!!!!!!! happen :cry: so yea. i got a few number of reasons it would totaly Fuck over FFXI's Story

1. No such thing as a Kitsune in FFXI
2. the Tail or Tails would be too Much editing
3. Kitsune ,Nogitsune,Youko/Yoko are to Powerful to even been in the game or any MMO

(Sorry about the over board nonsense of Kitsunes in FFXI im just Ubsest with Kitsunes ive been studing them for a very long time)

Somebody is way too into male mithra...

Personally if Male mithra's were put into the game as playable characters, there would be two problems: 1) I wouldnt like it (most important, I know :P ) 2) The story line would be completely screwed. "There are very few male mithra, and only the females venture out into the world." *Pictures Jeuno full of Male mithra's* Sorry if this has been brought up many times in this thread before, I didnt feel like reading the 2nd page >.>.

Personally if Male mithra's were put into the game as playable characters, there would be two problems: 1) I wouldnt like it (most important, I know :P ) 2) The story line would be completely screwed. "There are very few male mithra, and only the females venture out into the world." *Pictures Jeuno full of Male mithra's* Sorry if this has been brought up many times in this thread before, I didnt feel like reading the 2nd page >.>.

They could probably make a spin that for a long time there have been few male mithra, but a new tribe was found or enough time has accumulated for them to finally go out and explore Vanadiel...

Or we could bust into the restricted section of Kazham and kidnap a few (althought I have no clue how this would help the story line/character creation thing).

Well from everything that I've read it wasn't something new or recent that caused a lack of male mithras, it's the way their culture is. Look at lions, there's usually one or two males at most and the rest of the pride is all female, who are also the ones who do the hunting and such. The story about the mithras is that males are rarely born and thus protected, not just that they were killed in the war. When SE said there might male mithra, that's most likely hinting at future expansions that will deal with the area that mithra originated from.

As for guys irl who play mithras in game and act like girls, they do that with female humes and elvaan too. If someone wants to act like a female in game they'll play a female character regardless of other choices. That's not a problem that will be fixed by adding male mithras.

They could probably make a spin that for a long time there have been few male mithra, but a new tribe was found or enough time has accumulated for them to finally go out and explore Vanadiel...

exactly what ive been saying most of the time... also i was thinking what if the Mithra started Mating with Hume Guys seeing their almost the same size. their children could be Male from the Hume Side and Still Mithra and that would make them Male Mithra or Humethra >.> lol

(... sorry elvaans ur just too tall and ur kids would look funky lol, Galka+Mithra= 0kids do to loss of uh you know ... sexless. and no way in hell would Mithra and TaruTaru ever get it on. so its down too us Humes to save the Mithra race XD)

Well from everything that I've read it wasn't something new or recent that caused a lack of male mithras, it's the way their culture is. Look at lions, there's usually one or two males at most and the rest of the pride is all female, who are also the ones who do the hunting and such. The story about the mithras is that males are rarely born and thus protected, not just that they were killed in the war. When SE said there might male mithra, that's most likely hinting at future expansions that will deal with the area that mithra originated from.

As for guys irl who play mithras in game and act like girls, they do that with female humes and elvaan too. If someone wants to act like a female in game they'll play a female character regardless of other choices. That's not a problem that will be fixed by adding male mithras.
we talked a lot about it and i didnt even mean to bring up the Males playing Female characters but thats is NOT! why i want Male Mithras. im just stating trying to keep it withen Mithras. but yea people are creepy and make Female characters even if male are playable. there are diffrent type of people then
People who say "im a guy, i just made a Female character because of the races stats" or "I want something to look at when i play (ass boobs ... pixles)

and people who say "Hi ^.^ hehe, im a woman/girl/female (w.e)" but lie and they are realy a Guy in RL just doing it because there either messed up in the head or just doing it for kicks.
the people who Confess there a guy In RL and dont mess with you i dont have a Problem.
but the people who lie and mess with you for Laughs or to get Items piss me off.. and i have one thing too say.
"Get some damn Dignity you sick fuck"
but its also the person who falls for it's fault so i give them a
"You shouldnt have fell for it..."

Yeah, you know, it would be sort of stupid to see Male Mithras as new characters...
Firstly, because it does break the current image of male Mithras, and S-E isn't really one to break the image of anything they create in this game.

Secondly, because of the 'limitations' of the PS2- I'm sure if storage somehow cuts into it, this would too... the addition of a whole new race.

And thirdly, it wouldn't make much sense to have the race added, especially for those of us with 5+ lv75 jobs. We'd have to start a new character just to play it- and there isn't going to be a surplus of new players joining FFXI (except for when it goes retail on the 360), but I don't think they said they'd be adding that at Aht Urhgan launch.

Of corse not. but personaly i think FFXI should have came out for PS2 to begin with. if S-E had avoided making it playable on PS2 and waited for PS3 and 360 to come out to release it. now S-E has to Deal with PS2 and PC and Xbox 360.

Of corse not. but personaly i think FFXI should have came out for PS2 to begin with. if S-E had avoided making it playable on PS2 and waited for PS3 and 360 to come out to release it. now S-E has to Deal with PS2 and PC and Xbox 360.

Im sorry im confused what are you trying to say?

Do you mean if FFXI had come out WITH MALE MITHRA RACE out for ps2 to begin with?

if so please be a bit clearer

Plus i think it will just be NPC male mithras due to the limitations of PS2. WoW could manage something like this because its PC/MAC only.

But keep in mind this is a Console MMORPG therefore comes console limitations. Yes it sucks that its that way but hey im still loving the game.

Im sorry im confused what are you trying to say?

Do you mean if FFXI had come out WITH MALE MITHRA RACE out for ps2 to begin with?

if so please be a bit clearer

Plus i think it will just be NPC male mithras due to the limitations of PS2. WoW could manage something like this because its PC/MAC only.

But keep in mind this is a Console MMORPG therefore comes console limitations. Yes it sucks that its that way but hey im still loving the game.

No, he's saying that it shouldn't have come out for PS2.
And I agree... if you're eager enough to play the game, you could dish out the cash for a PC (which you'll need in life, at some point, either way). I don't think it should've been released for the 360, either, because soon, support for the PS2 will be discontinued (when PS3 comes out), and 360 will just be another limitation for Square. Sure, it's got nice specs, but it not infinite HDD space, like PCs.

If they aimed a bit higher, they could've created a much more open-ended world- just image getting rid of zones and having it be all seamless... ; ;

After you've played the game as long as I have, everything has a 'technical' feel to it. You stop looking at the environments, level design, etc, and it's all just another 'zone'. In other MMORPGs, however, a seamless world really helps that...

I don't think it should've been released for the 360, either, because soon, support for the PS2 will be discontinued (when PS3 comes out), and 360 will just be another limitation for Square. Sure, it's got nice specs, but it not infinite HDD space, like PCs.

Im gonna have to disagree with you there. I am not really fond of the xbox line but hey there are lots who are, and i think that introducing the game for Xbox360 players will bring new interest to the game and also alot of fresh blood. Whenever people think MMORPG nowadays most of them think WoW, therefore any reaching out to new people to join the game of FF11 is more than welcome in my opinion :thumbsup:

Im gonna have to disagree with you there. I am not really fond of the xbox line but hey there are lots who are, and i think that introducing the game for Xbox360 players will bring new interest to the game and also alot of fresh blood. Whenever people think MMORPG nowadays most of them think WoW, therefore any reaching out to new people to join the game of FF11 is more than welcome in my opinion :thumbsup:

You know, after playing Halo 2 at a friend's house, I'm scared to see the type of crowd FFXI will attract on the Xbox ><;;

No, he's saying that it shouldn't have come out for PS2.

And I agree... if you're eager enough to play the game, you could dish out the cash for a PC (which you'll need in life, at some point, either way). I don't think it should've been released for the 360, either, because soon, support for the PS2 will be discontinued (when PS3 comes out), and 360 will just be another limitation for Square. Sure, it's got nice specs, but it not infinite HDD space, like PCs.



If they aimed a bit higher, they could've created a much more open-ended world- just image getting rid of zones and having it be all seamless... ; ;



After you've played the game as long as I have, everything has a 'technical' feel to it. You stop looking at the environments, level design, etc, and it's all just another 'zone'. In other MMORPGs, however, a seamless world really helps that...

thats basicly what i ment to say everything else i have to dissagree with. Its ok if it comes out for Xbox 360 because that System is basicly a Super Computer put into a Xbox and would have more than enough capability to play FFXI for many generations(if they dont spice up the Graphics to WoW. Look at Elder Scrolls 4 : Oblivion 360 is gona be able to play it too and Oblivion makes every RPG game look like Pong.

now for the PS3 we will have to wait if it can handle the Online capability. i dont think it would have any other probs than that.

If S-E only made FFXI for the PC to begin with we would prob have more Character Designs, Weapons, Armor, Emotions(damn u PS2) etc etc and maybe a new Race(Male Mithra) NPC or playable some time in the near Future

If S-E would have done the same thing as WoW there would be much more to the game than there is today.

You know, after playing Halo 2 at a friend's house, I'm scared to see the type of crowd FFXI will attract on the Xbox ><;;

HAHAHAHAHA!:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: yea thats true

Give it a few weeks, they'll leave after meeting Actual players on regular servers. :thumbsup:

They could probably make a spin that for a long time there have been few male mithra, but a new tribe was found or enough time has accumulated for them to finally go out and explore Vanadiel...

New tribe was found? When they gave detail of the races they were doing it in the omnipresence state, how can the "all knowing" state not know a races' status. To finish the description does not state directly that there are very few males mithras, the closest it comes is to such a suggestion is the vaigue wording predominantly female.

Predominantly doesn't mean strickly that females are greater in number, it can also mean that the race's strength or control is mainly female. It leaves the races status of population fairly vaigue. Yes though, much of every race is described in the game. The more you talk to each NPCs and even some missions/quests touch on describing the races.

If they were to add Male Mithra it would have to carry on a line more of a culture change, not population and definatly not going against an omnipresence statment. Like I stated they are cat elvaan race, and so are doing the same culture as cats do. With cats the females are the predominate gender, they are the hunters, gatherers, child raisers, etc.. Otherwise the male cat's role is usually just to defend territory.

So with that stated only way I could think of male mithra's being shown is likely in the situations of a Garrison type fight or like those Raids planned to be in ToA. SE is far more likely if they have to do something race wise to tie it into a birth of a new race, in this way they could offer the potential of players wanting they could be "reborn" as this new race. Idea is along a story line you find in the game about the Tonberries, something to that nature or line sounds far more likely.

New tribe was found? When they gave detail of the races they were doing it in the omnipresence state, how can the "all knowing" state not know a races' status. To finish the description does not state directly that there are very few males mithras, the closest it comes is to such a suggestion is the vaigue wording predominantly female.

Predominantly doesn't mean strickly that females are greater in number, it can also mean that the race's strength or control is mainly female. It leaves the races status of population fairly vaigue. Yes though, much of every race is described in the game. The more you talk to each NPCs and even some missions/quests touch on describing the races.

If they were to add Male Mithra it would have to carry on a line more of a culture change, not population and definatly not going against an omnipresence statment. Like I stated they are cat elvaan race, and so are doing the same culture as cats do. With cats the females are the predominate gender, they are the hunters, gatherers, child raisers, etc.. Otherwise the male cat's role is usually just to defend territory.

So with that stated only way I could think of male mithra's being shown is likely in the situations of a Garrison type fight or like those Raids planned to be in ToA. SE is far more likely if they have to do something race wise to tie it into a birth of a new race, in this way they could offer the potential of players wanting they could be "reborn" as this new race. Idea is along a story line you find in the game about the Tonberries, something to that nature or line sounds far more likely.

But what if they did the story with Mithras Mating with Humes? or Elvaans .... just a thought lol

That's the thing with the word 'race' in games like these, it's rather misleading. If these races could crossbread, it would have happened before...many many times. In fact it would probably be a very common sight as many NPCs in the game, both story and non story related fall for members of different 'races'. Scientifically speaking creatures of the same race can breed and produce offspring, yet no signs of that ever happening in the FFXI world are shown. Due to that fact it can only mean that the 'races' in this game are actually different spieces, which can't reproduce to create offspring. So a new race based on the idea of two pre-existing races mating seems highly unlikely as an event like that should have happened before if it were possible.

Also, it does say that the reason Male Mithra are kept secret is because they are so rare not because of culturally dominant females. They specifically state that male mithras are rarely born and because of this they are kept protected and safe from the outside world (which also adds to the "different races can't mate" concept). I'm sure there will be male mithras introduced in the storyline a bit further down the road, mainly because the mithra homeland has yet to be released as of yet. Kazham is a settlement of mithras who left their homes and the ones in windurst were mainly travelers looking for a more open life style.

All signs point to male mithras never being a playable race, in fact I think SE even stated that they don't want to add more races.

I would have also been a male mithra if the there would have been the option.
Given how the story is..... male mitras do the hose chores etc, while the females do all the work. However, this tends me to belive that there is MUCH MORE to be added to the game, Because so fare there is not a signe MALE mithra NPC to my knowledge... not in windy... not even in khazam.

So where are they? This can lead us to some theories.

1. This will be left as a huge plot hole that will never be answered by SE as to where male mitras are
2. They are in that locked up area that you cant enter in Khazam, b
3. In future patches or expansions, we will have access to info a bout the TRUE mitra nation.

Male mithras are suposed to be VERY rare, so why keep the poor guys all hidden?

This is interesting!

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Give it a few weeks, they'll leave after meeting Actual players on regular servers. :thumbsup:

I would like to know...in what way are xbox live players differetn than us that play ffxi? This is an interestng point of view!

People keep saying "Kitsune". I don't know if you have realized that Mithra are cat people, not Fox people. And that Kitsune means Fox in Japanese. So there will be no Kitsune's, as far as I know. :(

People keep saying "Kitsune". I don't know if you have realized that Mithra are cat people, not Fox people. And that Kitsune means Fox in Japanese. So there will be no Kitsune's, as far as I know. :(

wow ........ simply wow ... u need to read the Kitsune posts a little more carfuly .......

I would have also been a male mithra if the there would have been the option.
Given how the story is..... male mitras do the hose chores etc, while the females do all the work. However, this tends me to belive that there is MUCH MORE to be added to the game, Because so fare there is not a signe MALE mithra NPC to my knowledge... not in windy... not even in khazam.

So where are they? This can lead us to some theories.

1. This will be left as a huge plot hole that will never be answered by SE as to where male mitras are
2. They are in that locked up area that you cant enter in Khazam, b
3. In future patches or expansions, we will have access to info a bout the TRUE mitra nation.

Male mithras are suposed to be VERY rare, so why keep the poor guys all hidden?

This is interesting!

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I would like to know...in what way are xbox live players differetn than us that play ffxi? This is an interestng point of view!


no Male Mithra in these areas because Windurst and khazam or Outposts...and there for Males are not needed there, expect the Mithra home land to apear in the next expansion (not ToA the one after it)

I got a feeling this Topic is gona go on for a few weeks

I got a feeling this Topic is gona go on for a few weeks

It is quite possible. It is a fun topic. ^.^

lol yea

uh ... is it me or is my Rank"Im a Mithra" because if its a joke its not funny unless you mean Male..:(

lol yea

uh ... is it me or is my Rank"Im a Mithra" because if its a joke its not funny unless you mean Male..:(

Oh that is cool. I wish I had something like that :P

lol yea

uh ... is it me or is my Rank"Im a Mithra" because if its a joke its not funny unless you mean Male..:(
lol, i think they added that to you because you seem so intent on Male mithra.

At least they have a sense of humor, unlike some mods on other sites. >.>

it wqas not a mod that gave him that title, someone payed to have it changed ti it, useing the little mini game thingy they have on these forums

The instruction book says the the Males never venture into the 'outside world'.
So... expect Male mithras to look something like the average American nerd.

zing!

lol >.> ooook

i k now who did it and thats nice of you .... i think .....

could you change it too Nogitune (Demon Fox)

it wqas not a mod that gave him that title, someone payed to have it changed ti it, useing the little mini game thingy they have on these forums

Wow, really? I never really paid attention to the "Gil" thing. Still, the mods here have a decent sense of humor compared to other fansites.

what about them gurlkas :p

Make another Topic .... but i realy think no one cares lol

I'd like to see male mithras with some distictive breed qualities... tabby, tiger, black panther... If they made male mithras I think i'd make one... Why should guys be the only ones with a harem of mithra mules... If male mithras are the harem type then I'll place a few on order (6_6)!

I would have also been a male mithra if the there would have been the option.
Given how the story is..... male mitras do the hose chores etc, while the females do all the work. However, this tends me to belive that there is MUCH MORE to be added to the game, Because so fare there is not a signe MALE mithra NPC to my knowledge... not in windy... not even in khazam.

So where are they? This can lead us to some theories.

1. This will be left as a huge plot hole that will never be answered by SE as to where male mitras are
2. They are in that locked up area that you cant enter in Khazam, b
3. In future patches or expansions, we will have access to info a bout the TRUE mitra nation.

Male mithras are suposed to be VERY rare, so why keep the poor guys all hidden?

This is interesting!


They already said where the male mithra are, kept safe in mithran homelands. Possibly that area of Kazham that's locked off may have a few, but windurst most likely has none as that's not the Mithra's real home. Mithras in Windurst live along side Taru Taru as guests and mutual protectors of the city, but they are not originally born there. The real mithra homeland is a southern isle not yet released so it will be some time before male mithra are actually shown. I actually see them as more of a prison/harem thing then home makers. Females in that society do all the work while they keep the males locked up safe away from the rest of the world to insure their spiecies survival.

your all repeating your self now ... we all know there being protected. So what. Maybe sometime the Male Mithra will Decide they want to Explore the world. its not up too us its up too them.

what most people dont understand is that you cant just change or alter part of a story that has been solid for over 3 years.....it was stated and hinted that Males of the race are rare and do the house things. There is no herm thing or slave crap like many have decribed -.- think of it like this..........

Males are rare, for every 10 females born a male might be, so there for to keep the race strong, the males are kept safe by staying in their homeland.

now I cant see why people can not understand this, its not that hard -.-

NOw SE has said that one day we will see them SEE not PLAY them, now that most likely will be in the next expansion since ToA is on the east, the next one will be on the south and then we will have the Mithra homeland and there see male Mithra.

now just drop this before it get even stupider -.-

Least they could do is SHOW a manthra.. What are they slaves in a reproduction chamber??

also they Did NOT say they wont be playable. they said they WONT be playable in the exansion.

anyways they prob wont. i dont care anymore. Male cats are lazy so why would i want to be a Lazy Catguy? ill stick to my Normal RP and Play as a Hume Possesed by a Demon.

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Some people are getting a bit too in to this topic...

My two cents on male mithras - They'll be NPCs. In games where you level characters like jobs, I can see adding in new races. But when your character is independent of the jobs, like FFXI, it just doesn't seem reasonable to make a new race.

lol >.> ooook

i k now who did it and thats nice of you .... i think .....

could you change it too Nogitune (Demon Fox)
Only because you took it well and had a sense of humor. :thumbsup:

Sweetness thanks

Males are rare, for every 10 females born a male might be, so there for to keep the race strong, the males are kept safe by staying in their homeland.


I'd say it'd be a bigger ratio then that as many major cities in the US have a 10 to 1 ratio of female to male. With mithra it could easily be 100 to 1 if not higher.

your all repeating your self now ... we all know there being protected. So what. Maybe sometime the Male Mithra will Decide they want to Explore the world. its not up too us its up too them.

True, it is possible a male mithra might want to break out and see the world. But all the male mithra getting up and deciding to run away, I don't see that happening. One or two breaking out would work great in the story but making them a playable race won't.

I'm pretty sure it's fairly even between the number of males and females worldwide. It's just females tend to get out more... I don't know about you guys, but when I shop, I try to get as much as I need so I don't have to go back the next day...or week(s) if I can help it.

I just want to clear up some misconceptions that have been posted about cats in the real world to justify the current state of mithras.

First of all most spcies of cats are solitary. Meaning they live alone without other of their species. That means they need to hunt and protect themselves. Both males and females. So saying that with cats the females are nessacarily superiours hunters is false.

To the best of my knowlege the only cats that form family groups (prides) are Lions and Cheetahs. Though Lions are the only species with a single male and that only the females hunt. Cheetah prides vary from all male to all female groups and any mixture in between and every memer of the pride hunts, the purpose of these groups is to help drive away larger predidors that often steal prey from loan cheetah (such as lions and Hyenas).

And in both species of social cat there are a roughly equal ratio of male and female born. However with lions the ratio changes as they reach adulthood. For one male lions will kill any male cubs left alone for too long by their mothers, presumibly to prevent future competition. After the male cubs reach a certain age the are chaced away from the pride to fiend of themselfs, Some of these die do to enviromental hardship, or are wounded it fights with other male lions or other preditors in such a way that they can no longer survive on there own.

Mithran socitety in fact is nothing like the socail aspects of real cats. I personally believe that most people see mithra as more cat like than they really are. Beyond apperances and a few jokes and puns the NPC mithra are really not all that cat like.

I just want to clear up some misconceptions that have been posted about cats in the real world to justify the current state of mithras.

First of all most spcies of cats are solitary. Meaning they live alone without other of their species. That means they need to hunt and protect themselves. Both males and females. So saying that with cats the females are nessacarily superiours hunters is false.

To the best of my knowlege the only cats that form family groups (prides) are Lions and Cheetahs. Though Lions are the only species with a single male and that only the females hunt. Cheetah prides vary from all male to all female groups and any mixture in between and every memer of the pride hunts, the purpose of these groups is to help drive away larger predidors that often steal prey from loan cheetah (such as lions and Hyenas).

And in both species of social cat there are a roughly equal ratio of male and female born. However with lions the ratio changes as they reach adulthood. For one male lions will kill any male cubs left alone for too long by their mothers, presumibly to prevent future competition. After the male cubs reach a certain age the are chaced away from the pride to fiend of themselfs, Some of these die do to enviromental hardship, or are wounded it fights with other male lions or other preditors in such a way that they can no longer survive on there own.

Mithran socitety in fact is nothing like the socail aspects of real cats. I personally believe that most people see mithra as more cat like than they really are. Beyond apperances and a few jokes and puns the NPC mithra are really not all that cat like.

dont think anyone hear said anything to what you are talking about..... "Mithra are nothing like real cats" no duh -.-

dont think anyone hear said anything to what you are talking about..... "Mithra are nothing like real cats" no duh -.-

Hey there's no need to get snippy, it was a valid contribution.

altho lots of people do say there more cat than Women like people say about Furrys

Furry= Fur all over

Cat Girl (Which is also Mithra) are Fur in some spots like ... down there . Hair,Tail,Ears, maybe some uniqe places like Mithra face markings ... yea there fur.

shave your mithra!

/slap Ouija

;-)

dont think anyone hear said anything to what you are talking about..... "Mithra are nothing like real cats" no duh -.-

Nope, he debunking what I've been stating. Or at least trying too, with cats if you want their overall "offical" statements all cats preffer to be loners. They in general only form social groups when it is to their benefit.

The majority of cat species when in a social group it is the responsibility of the females to be the child raisers, hunters, and gatherers. The males responsibility in a majority of cat species is to defend territories. This happens with any species of cat if they form a society with large enough numbers to support this.

Otherwise Lions, Cheetahs, Panthers, etc... do form male societies commonly of brothers with intent main goal of protecting a terrirtory. Also an FYI not all Lion social groups formed consist of solely 1 male, some do happen to have 2 or more usually are brothers and usually evolves from the male society originaly formed called a Coalation.

That behavior as I stated from start only happens when cats form a society and they only form one when it to their benefit otherwise they do prefer to be loners. Now in the game the Mithras are clearly a developed society with the backing of the cat's most common behavior when forming a social group. So my statement bears it due justice.

Umm... is this zoo-ology 101? If not I must have stepped into the wrong thread.

Umm... is this zoo-ology 101? If not I must have stepped into the wrong thread.

Lol, sorry just this debate is something stated so much and last resolution I ran into with was following that Mithra's also being reffered to as cat elvaans by the manual had common traits to that of cats when they form a society.

No it's cool, I was just playing. BTW, is there anything you don't know Macht? You seem to know everything when I read through these forums o.O

No it's cool, I was just playing. BTW, is there anything you don't know Macht? You seem to know everything when I read through these forums o.O

There is tons I don't know, and every challenge someone presents to me just pushes me to learn more of it. I do research when someone challenges my statements, I love debates they are sort of something my family thrives on. My family from my father side almost gets into every range of debates to expand everyone's knowledge as a whole. It works pretty well considering that two cousins are doctors they tend to debate on health topics. My father, an uncle, and me are into technology so we tend to debate about everything technical wise. My mother and Aunt has extensive knowledge in animals so a great deal of knowledge about animals and behaviors I've gotten from them.

Ask me about cooking related topics or other arts and craft and I'll be at loss. There's probably many others you can ask about and I'll likely be at loss, just I pick my battles carefully :thumbsup:

I think bringing out a male mithra would be brilliant. I happen to agree I am tired of seeing males portray themselves as females and give my friends who are women just like me, a bad name. The pics above made me so want a pet male mithra lmao. I play an elvaan female though. I tried to be a mithra but I got real tired of either being totally sexually harrassed or called a man lol.

I think bringing out a male mithra would be brilliant. I happen to agree I am tired of seeing males portray themselves as females and give my friends who are women just like me, a bad name. The pics above made me so want a pet male mithra lmao. I play an elvaan female though. I tried to be a mithra but I got real tired of either being totally sexually harrassed or called a man lol.

not all of use are bad or slutty or whatever you are getting at when we play Mithra, I have been doing it since PC release, and I just Roleplay and I ahve the rule you ask I tell, then it is in noway my fault if someone does somethign stupid, I like playing Mithra and I know this has been said many times....but letting Male Mithra be palyable qould be against the storylines path and would mess the flow of the story they have created, you cant change a story just to please some people, it would be a bad choice.

If I remember correctly, the story says that male mithras are a kind of protected species given the implication that they are "rare". Man, that must be lots of fun.... the honor to be with lots of Mithra girls.... :P

Kept to keep the population up. :P

Ever been in the cave near the Kazham Auction House? :)

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Cat Girl (Which is also Mithra) are Fur in some spots like ... down there . Hair,Tail,Ears, maybe some uniqe places like Mithra face markings ... yea there fur.

That what it all about huh? "Down there."
Well anyway, any real life woman should be able to have "fur" "down there." (Just for if anyone doesn't know yet.)

who eles thinks that a mithra male will look like a thudercat :P or a warren from B.O.F 3/4 personaly i think that males should be introduced but as an NPC only since there so rare

not trying to start this topic again but.

Having male mithra would not hurt the Story line because that is the Past this is the future. Maybe they could be Half breeds like Human/Mithra is the only half breed I could possibly see that fits Elvaans. Eh.. Taru. No way. Galkas. dont get me started again. all Square has to do is start working up the ladder. Like First Male Mithra Mystery Quests(something like that) then Male mithra NPC. and then some day there could be Male mithra to be playable ... the only problem is Galka would be the only 1 sex race... seeing not many people are galkas .. i dont see the problem.

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btw... does anyone even look at the pic on my first post? that is what a male mithra would possibly look like :)

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also the Topic is FUTURE male mithra .. not We want male mithra now! we gotta give S-E time. and if they decide not too.... curse them but its up too them not us :(

Just curious Kyero you seem to have a real problem with tarus lolz. i just noticed through some of your posts. why is that? I chose to play a taru for the simple fact that I wanted to be a mage. and no one does mages better then a taru ^^ :)

I did not say thatr you are I said that a lot of mithra get sexuallky harrassed by men on my server. I did not say in any way mithra were bad. There are however a lot of men that play them on my server that give the females who play them bad names by, pretending they are female to get free stuff its been posted a lot about people like that. What I am saying that is if they make a male mithra and give the option for males to switch females who play them will be free to play without having to defend themselves a lot like they do on my server.

Pfff, sexually harrassed. /blist add nerd does it really.
What I am saying that is if they make a male mithra and give the option for males to switch females who play them will be free to play without having to defend themselves a lot like they do on my server.
That's a very good one, but do female galka players mind as much? It's a game, with the story and fantasy of such, if a guy decides playing Mithra, to act as girl, Male Mithra won't change his choice. If he just wants to play mithra, not to act as girl, and he's bothered by other men or anything, he can either /blacklist or just make a male character if he minds it that much. A girl playing mithra and gets harrassed, can also just make like.. a female hume, or /blacklist. Remember though, this game just has tard players, and you're never able to completely stop that.

Pfff, sexually harrassed. /blist add nerd does it really.

That's a very good one, but do female galka players mind as much? It's a game, with the story and fantasy of such, if a guy decides playing Mithra, to act as girl, Male Mithra won't change his choice. If he just wants to play mithra, not to act as girl, and he's bothered by other men or anything, he can either /blacklist or just make a male character if he minds it that much. A girl playing mithra and gets harrassed, can also just make like.. a female hume, or /blacklist. Remember though, this game just has tard players, and you're never able to completely stop that.

You know my /blist stopped working though after I got like about 200-300 names. Not certain if it just a bug or an actual limit though the error message is so damn vague on that system when it hits an error.

You know though some people are so imursed in RP that when they turn on their game they are a Mithra all be it female adventureing through the world. Nothing wrong with that. A healthy imaginaion is fun sometimes.

You know though some people are so imursed in RP that when they turn on their game they are a Mithra all be it female adventureing through the world. Nothing wrong with that. A healthy imaginaion is fun sometimes.

Except when it just goes worse. o.O

Except when it just goes worse. o.O

True some can take it too far. way too far.

You know my /blist stopped working though after I got like about 200-300 names. Not certain if it just a bug or an actual limit though the error message is so damn vague on that system when it hits an error.

I'm sure some names can be deleted. Or, your server is the worst of all.

Well in my RPLs we actually have a handfull of male mithra wandering about that are basically run-aways, and several have made actual .dat changes for their models. In order to stay safe they disguise themselves as female while training to avoid notice. So in the reguards, it would be easy to make mithra males playable not by a race change but by a lengthy quest to reveal your real identity.

As far as the crossbreeds thing goes, we have a few of those too, and adopted the rule that humes, mithra and elvaan can breed, but the offsrping will always be the mothers race but with small influences from the fatehr such as being slightly taller or more pale.

Lol the cat women theme is since forever the most famous japanese erotic fantasy, and finally they made a great game with them! They will not had mithras male so easily...

If they made male Mithra playable, they'd have to make a female version of the Galka.

Enough said.

If they made male Mithra playable, they'd have to make a female version of the Galka.

Enough said.

Actually they couldn't since mithra's are female, and males do exist *somewhere* while galka aren't male, they have no gender and are reborn through reincarnation

If they made male Mithra playable, they'd have to make a female version of the Galka.

Enough said.

You sure you play FFXI, right? lol

soooo male mithras... hmmm how about female galkas :rolleyes:
and mithras that are played by doods or chicks idc, as long as you know how to play i can care less.
<3 llamas.

I'm sure some names can be deleted. Or, your server is the worst of all.

That's what makes me wonder if my /blist is bad or what. I'm thinking the way the /blist is if the player deletes that character it gets stuck in your /blist and so far everyone of them I've tried to delete didn't work. Idea was nice but somewere in development it horribly awry.

Aww, a male Mithra would be so cute >.< I hope they have one soon, the backround story did say there's few male Mithra.

Well in my RPLs we actually have a handfull of male mithra wandering about that are basically run-aways, and several have made actual .dat changes for their models. In order to stay safe they disguise themselves as female while training to avoid notice. So in the reguards, it would be easy to make mithra males playable not by a race change but by a lengthy quest to reveal your real identity.

As far as the crossbreeds thing goes, we have a few of those too, and adopted the rule that humes, mithra and elvaan can breed, but the offsrping will always be the mothers race but with small influences from the fatehr such as being slightly taller or more pale.

even tho u have DATs that make u look like a Male Mithra. too others your just a Female :( so DATs dont change a thing it just changes what your computer sees.

and no i dont have anything agenst them. just lots of Taru Guy players think they rule everyone or know every think :P the ones i come accros but thats it.

also Drop this damn subject. Its up too S-E not us too make Male mithra playable. so no reason to continue this Thread.

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plus im not even playing FFXI anymore every sense the expansion came out.im playin WoW,CoV and Auto Assult which is actualy a Good game ;)

Just my 2 gil.
Had male Mithra been available I would've been a Mithra instead of an Elvan for the more unique look. Since it wasn't availble my curent choice is where I stay even if it becomes available later. Not going to start over with a new character just for anything, too much tim e invested where I am.
Personally I'ld love to see people be able to choose their sex as a mithra however I suspect most mithra characters would remain female anyway even given a choice.
I'm still curious where all the male Mitha are hiding since the current concensious seems to be chained to a bedpost in their homelands :+D

Actually they couldn't since mithra's are female, and males do exist *somewhere* while galka aren't male, they have no gender and are reborn through reincarnation

True, but the whole point was to have the game gender-balanced.

4 female types, 4 male types.

And uh... At least something that resembles each.

I also hear Mithra are hermaphrodites. Not sure on the credibility on that though.

It was all about balance.

I'd like to see male mithras with some distictive breed qualities... tabby, tiger, black panther... If they made male mithras I think i'd make one... Why should guys be the only ones with a harem of mithra mules... If male mithras are the harem type then I'll place a few on order (6_6)!

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True, but the whole point was to have the game gender-balanced.

4 female types, 4 male types.

And uh... At least something that resembles each.

I also hear Mithra are hermaphrodites. Not sure on the credibility on that though.

It was all about balance.


lol Mithra are not hermaphrodites, who in the hell started that stupid rumor lol -.-

lol Mithra are not hermaphrodites, who in the hell started that stupid rumor lol -.-

oh god. Do I have to make a mspaint picture about this too!?

The JP handbook says they are, from what I've heard.

Lol the cat women theme is since forever the most famous japanese erotic fantasy, and finally they made a great game with them! They will not had mithras male so easily...
This is the truth of it right here, kildem has the right of it.
cat girls= good
cat man= no ones erotic fantasy
good luck getting that mithra man character, the majority favors not.

lol Mithra are not hermaphrodites, who in the hell started that stupid rumor lol -.-

i said the same thing. that is the most stupidest thing i ever heard.:eek:

This is the truth of it right here, kildem has the right of it.

cat man= no ones erotic fantasy



HAH:rofl:AHAHA:rofl:HAA... 1 sec ... HAHAH:rofl:AHAHAH you have no idea.( not saying i do. i just wona be a CatGuy to get closer to RPing a Kitsune. also im tired of that mithra in Kazham sayin "why would a Mithra want a Hume ... the cant even keep the sent of there prey" We humes dont let our Prey Get away"

I have been listening to an audio book by C.J Cherryh called the Chanur Saga when I saw this thread as I was reading I noticed something. I don't know if the designers of FFXI got thire idea from this book but Cherryhs Hannie and FFIXs Mithra verry much alike. The Hannie males are kept home and shelterd because they are to unstable to handle the outside world.:huh:

cat girls= good
cat man= no ones erotic fantasy
good luck getting that mithra man character, the majority favors not.

My husband and his boyfriend would argue that one :P

Plus there are a *ton* of male Twinks (stat mongers) who picked mithra based purely and stats and would *love* to change gender to stop the harressment they get from time to time.

This is the truth of it right here, kildem has the right of it.
cat girls= good
cat man= no ones erotic fantasy
good luck getting that mithra man character, the majority favors not.

So you are saying women don't fantasize as much as men?

My husband and his boyfriend would argue that one

Okay, that's confusing. ><

You know my /blist stopped working though after I got like about 200-300 names. Not certain if it just a bug or an actual limit though the error message is so damn vague on that system when it hits an error.

Just like the friend's list there is a limit on the blist to 200 names. Best to take off the names of people who did things looooong ago that you don't remember and may have even quit since you added their names.

As for the OT, the only thing that would stop them from adding male mithra as a playable race is the fact that the story says that male mithra *can't* leave their homelands. I doubt SE would go and suddenly change a major socialogical story aspect to a race in this game. It has nothing to do with any 'balance' or lack of desire by the fan base to see male mithra, but everything to do with the fantasy world SE is trying to create. There will be male mithra NPCs, that's pretty much gaurenteed. But a playable male mithra race will most likely never happen.

I highly doubt SE would make male mithra.


At the most, they would release the Mithra's homeland zone and there would be some Male Mithra NPC.

But I doubt it.

So you are saying women don't fantasize as much as men?
I'm just saying its not as popular (the catman fantasy that is), and more guys play the game.
more and more women are getting into it so maybe one day they will throw them a bone but I don't think it will be this game.

I'm just saying its not as popular (the catman fantasy that is), and more guys play the game.
more and more women are getting into it so maybe one day they will throw them a bone but I don't think it will be this game.

You do realize why all the main FF heros for the past...5 games have been 'pretty' boys right?

Plenty of girls play FF games, including this one, and SE has been 'throwing them bones' for years. Hell half the male characters *in* FFXI are 'metrosexual' pretty boys because that's what most girls want. There is already plenty of fanbase from both male and female players who want to see male mithra, but they most likely will never be added as a playable race. It has nothing to do with popularity or the gender of the person playing but the fact that it just would not fit in the story. But then again SE has thrown curveballs out there before so with them you never know. But lack of desire by females playing this game is NOT the reason there are no male mithra.

The JP handbook says they are, from what I've heard.

This 'JP handbook' you have wouldn't happen to be a Hentai Manga would it? That would explain the misguidance to that idea. :worry:

This 'JP handbook' you have wouldn't happen to be a Hentai Manga would it? That would explain the misguidance to that idea. :worry:
yeah lol that book must have not been translated right, or someoen is BSing...because Mithra that we all play as are FEMALE lol

If you were a male mithra, would you ever go outside and fight monsters, or would you just relax in relative comfort all day, and by "relax in relative comfort" I mean "have sex with hot mithra girls"

Bloody, stabbity death, or all the sex you could ever want.

Tough call >.>

I have faith I could maintain the endurance needed for both ;+D
Besides anything gets dull if it's the only thing you do, Kept like that for the first 20 days might be cool, but an escape to the forbiden outside is a desire anyone calling themselves adventurer should feel. Happy roleplaying all.

If you were a male mithra, would you ever go outside and fight monsters, or would you just relax in relative comfort all day, and by "relax in relative comfort" I mean "have sex with hot mithra girls"

Bloody, stabbity death, or all the sex you could ever want.

Tough call >.>

Yes, yes that is.
I think I would take the bloody death.
Wait..... no.
I think I'll stick with the sex, thank you.

Why not have both?:evil: Sex on the weekends and Adventuring on the Weekdays ;3

Can't wait for Male Mithrils. The female ones are cool anywa though.

If you were a male mithra, would you ever go outside and fight monsters, or would you just relax in relative comfort all day, and by "relax in relative comfort" I mean "have sex with hot mithra girls"

Bloody, stabbity death, or all the sex you could ever want.

Tough call >.>

Only problem is that all the Female Mithra are out fighting monsters, and the poor male Mithra are all alone, with only each other......


Who says nobody has fantasies about male Mithras :D

Only problem is that all the Female Mithra are out fighting monsters, and the poor male Mithra are all alone, with only each other......


Who says nobody has fantasies about male Mithras :D

exactly. I know a few girls in RL that want Catguys to cuddle with on FFXI ;3

they gave in and gave us blue mages. there's no reason for them not to do the same with Male mithra.

Anyone who has ever played an FF game should know that rediculous plot twists are what SE are all about.

they gave in and gave us blue mages. there's no reason for them not to do the same with Male mithra.

Anyone who has ever played an FF game should know that rediculous plot twists are what SE are all about.

Blue Mage and Corsair were inevitable, those jobs are staples of the series that couldn't remain ignored. Making male mithras playable, however, would break part of FFXI's story and story isn't something SE backpedals on.

I don't forsee a male mithra liberation movement happening. And, quite frankly, a male mithra's place is in the kitchen.

:p what story did they really put in place there? basically 'we need an excuse not to make male mithra' 'i know, we could say they're house husbands!' 'excellent, it's better than making them hermaphrodites!'

The Mithra are a predominantly female race of hunters who live alongside the Tarutaru in Windurst. They are easily identified by their characteristic ears, which give them spectacular hearing ability, and their long tails, which result in an unparalleled sense of balance. They are known for their energy, curiosity, and their penchant for causing playful mischief. The Mithra enjoy a friendly relationship with the Tarutaru, and this attitude of mutual cooperation has made Windurst a nation of peace and prosperity.

predominantly, preponderantly
much greater in number or influence

in other words, to every 1 male, there are most likely 10-20female if not more, most likeyl due to genetics, and the males most likely are weaker physically then the females

Blue Mage and Corsair were inevitable, those jobs are staples of the series that couldn't remain ignored. Making male mithras playable, however, would break part of FFXI's story and story isn't something SE backpedals on.

I don't forsee a male mithra liberation movement happening. And, quite frankly, a male mithra's place is in the kitchen.

again im gona say it again.....

Making male mithras playable will NOT! break FFXI's story. Because they dont HAVE to make them Pure Mithra. They can be Crossbreeds of Humes and Mithras or Elvaans.

and that Kichen comment is Sexist

I do find this interesting indeed. Yet I see Mithra Male as only NPC potential. Seeing one playable is as likely as seeing a female galka.

I do find this interesting indeed. Yet I see Mithra Male as only NPC potential. Seeing one playable is as likely as seeing a female galka.

There is no such thing as Female Galka in the FFXI's story so they cant just pop out.

There is no such thing as Female Galka in the FFXI's story so they cant just pop out.

I know I know. I wasn't disagreeing with you or anything. I was merely using a metaphor.

I personally have no objection to a playable Mithra Male in the story. I just feel that it probably won't happen due to the amount of people that will just suddenly drop their old characters/jobs and start on it fresh. Though I am sure many would do this. :)

I know I know. I wasn't disagreeing with you or anything. I was merely using a metaphor.

I personally have no objection to a playable Mithra Male in the story. I just feel that it probably won't happen due to the amount of people that will just suddenly drop their old characters/jobs and start on it fresh. Though I am sure many would do this. :)

I would make a new Character (Manthra) If they were playable.

I don't think they will add playable male Mithra's to the game.

I saw someone mentioning female Galkas.
You sadist, such an unpleasant sight is not meant for the human eye to percieve.

I don't think they will add playable male Mithra's to the game.

I saw someone mentioning female Galkas.
You sadist, such an unpleasant sight is not meant for the human eye to percieve.

No one knows. The reason i made the tread was to discuse if there was gona be Male Mithra.

The only reason I have always doubted it, is because of the way the game is structured. Most folks aren't going to want to start over from scratch if they were to introduce a male Mithra as a playable race. I mean, I'm sure some folks would, and I'll bet there would be a ton of mules made as one, but there just doesn't seem to be much reason to do it.

Now on the other hand, I could totally see them introducing them as NPCs only. That seems fair.

No one knows. The reason i made the tread was to discuse if there was gona be Male Mithra.

and there wont be.... they will show up as NPC only in the Mithran homeland when an expansion comes out that has that palce in it. and I am preety sure the way the races DNA works.... you cant have crossbreeds, and SE would not make a crossbreed a playable race, infact I think SE said that they dont want to ahve anymore playable races. One more might be added in the next to expansions, but I dont think it will be male Mithra, it WILL screw with the Mithras base storyline.

I don't think they will ever add another playable race seens as so many people won't want to restart. Mind you, would be cool if only 100 or so of a race were kicking about on the servers :)

I'm personally really not looking forward to male mithra characters, let alone playable ones. Mithra's have always had a only-female image in the game... It'd ruin it if there would be male ones. Well, my gameplay would be destroyed. And I don't even do RP or anything.
But the thing is, they already do exist, we just haven't gotten to the part of Vana'diel that they reside in yet.

I'm looking forward to it, it will finally give us some respect (hopefully). I hate the fact that mithra have become the porno stars of FFXI, and the fact that every other person I meet asks me if I'm a girl or not. It's just plain sad....

But the thing is, they already do exist, we just haven't gotten to the part of Vana'diel that they reside in yet.

I'm looking forward to it, it will finally give us some respect (hopefully). I hate the fact that mithra have become the porno stars of FFXI, and the fact that every other person I meet asks me if I'm a girl or not. It's just plain sad....

Well, that's just stupidity. I played a Mithra for the better part of a year, and it's a good, solid race. While there are the occasional idiots that assum you're a girl just because your character is one (although I've never understood why they would assume that an all-female [playable] race wouldn't have more than it's fair share of male gamers ), most people know it's not so, and they treat Mithra accordingly.

In my LS we have a number of Mithra, and I think only one of them is a bona fide RL girl.

People play for the stats, damn it! And because they look good in nearly all of the gear out there.

Anyway, long rambling post to basically say: Mithra are only the porn stars of Vana'diel to people who aren't very good critical thinkers. :P

again im gona say it again.....

Making male mithras playable will NOT! break FFXI's story. Because they dont HAVE to make them Pure Mithra. They can be Crossbreeds of Humes and Mithras or Elvaans.

and that Kichen comment is Sexist

Well, there have been no playable male mithra for about 4+ years now. Were SE to add them now, it would disrupt the mythos they've worked to create. I'd agree it would be nice to see a male mithra NPC or have some plotline

But making the male playable takes away from the idea that the female is the dominant side of the mithran race. Suddenly, you'd have like hundreds of male mithra all over world. Chalking it up to breeding with hume or Elvaan... or Tarus.... wouldn't make much sense because other crossbreeds wouldn't exist... and it would seem kinda wrong for them to exist. Humes with bigger ears, Elvaans with dog-like noses... tall, skinny tarus. I'd assume that if a Hume guy and a Mithra female hooked up, she'd probably end up having a female mithra because their genetics are just too strong to let males happen often.

Plus, the rest of the races have gender equity. You know what that means. First there's some suffarage movement, then they'll be able to vote, then they get access to better jobs and start to take over the workplace, colleges and political office. No, we're just gonna keep the male mithra in the kitchen and working at the auction houses of the four nations. Otherwise, we're just going to keep them in that cave in Kazham Tio Moshroca guards. Their attempts to escape have been so laughable she wears lighter armor now :evil:

What I find odd is that SE said they where going to add the mithra homeland in Aht Urgan, but didn't even mention it in the storyline.

Theyre still adding updates tho right?

Mithran homeland is to the far south... not far east, you wont see it in this expansion, but maybe the next. I dont think SE said that they would add the homeland, I think they said somethign along the lines of "you just wait and see" it was a respose to someone asling that question at the fan festival.

We just have to wait for the future. No one knows what the future holds.

As for Male Mithra's you have consider not only the Mythology (Hebrew if I remember right) but that they are also Cat Elves as the manual stated. Being so they carry many qualities of a society that cats do, that means that the Females are the adventurers, hunters, gatherers, etc...

Hebraism has nothing mithra.

Males are rare, for every 10 females born a male might be, so there for to keep the race strong, the males are kept safe by staying in their homeland.

If they're actually rare as described by SE, it'd have to be more like 1% of the entire population. Otherwise, they wouldn't be so protected if they're 10% of the population.



My thoughts...

SE is a company. Companies eventually evolve, as well as their products-unless they want to be left in hell. Will SE release a male-mithra race? I don't know. But I'll tell you this, SE is smart enough and has the experience that they''ve a probable storyline ready if they choose to release the male mithra race as a PC-and not just an NPC, irregardless of what anyone else says. And also irregardless of what others say, a story MUST expand, period, and if SE didn't prepare for that then they have failed at the true final fantasy.

What I find odd is that SE said they where going to add the mithra homeland in Aht Urgan, but didn't even mention it in the storyline.

The mithra homeland, as well as the Far East, have been referenced all the way back before the Zilart Expansion. RNG AF1 quests is about sin hunters persuing sinners from the mithran homeland. The chieftainess in Windurst is also said to have gotten her position by capturing sinners for the homeland. And if you somehow missed those, there's the mithran sin hunter in the CoP storyarch as well.

The Far East has always had ties to Bastok as well as the Tenshondo. The references to the Far East grew in Zilart and then there's Tenzen in CoP.


We just have to wait for the future. No one knows what the future holds.


Yeah, Mithra could really be like black widows of the female praying mantis. Males may not be slaves, AH workers or even homemakers, but just killed and devoured after some hanky-panky. :worry:

Can you imagine being a male mithra? Can you imagine being a valued and protected commodity for hundreds of thousands of beautiful catgirl's?

Oh, what a wonderful life that would be.

I sorta agree it was retarded of S-E to add one gender only races to the game.

But my thought on why they made mithra female only was to get more players due to the whole catgirl/anime craze. And since they made a female only race, they had to make a male only race.

And odds are I'd have been a mithra if they were male, only reason I didn't go female was is the last thing I need is to be flirted on constantly and get "special attention."

EDIT: About this whole mithra homeland thing... Isn't Kazham supposed to be?

I sorta agree it was retarded of S-E to add one gender only races to the game.

But my thought on why they made mithra female only was to get more players due to the whole catgirl/anime craze. And since they made a female only race, they had to make a male only race.

And odds are I'd have been a mithra if they were male, only reason I didn't go female was is the last thing I need is to be flirted on constantly and get "special attention."

EDIT: About this whole mithra homeland thing... Isn't Kazham supposed to be?

Kazham is like the "Current" mithra homeland, there's still an ancestral homeland.

And by adding a female-only race, especially one that has advantages to playing, IMHO helped balance out the unrealistic situation that develops in MMOs where 90% of PCs are male, and created a more even balance.

Oh, and my character has a cute butt. Which, considering that is what I see for 99.9995% of my play experience, is a definite plus.

Kazham is like the "Current" mithra homeland, there's still an ancestral homeland.

And by adding a female-only race, especially one that has advantages to playing, IMHO helped balance out the unrealistic situation that develops in MMOs where 90% of PCs are male, and created a more even balance.

Oh, and my character has a cute butt. Which, considering that is what I see for 99.9995% of my play experience, is a definite plus.

Your looking at Pixles in other words not real. I will never make a female character if i have a choice not too. Even if they had Uber stats I would still be Male. Because the fact that I AM A MAN! in RL.

And what S-E did with the races having 1 all male race and 1 all female race is indeed stupid. What other MMORPG has 1Sex Only race?................................ None. WoW has 8 Races soon 10 races each with Male and Female. and 1 Reason FFXI Players have moved too WoW or other MMORPGs such as City of Villians.

Making male mithras playable CANT screw up the FFXI's Story Because that is the Past! the Future Holds many things such as Evolution and Breeding. The Kazham Chiefness has a Crush on a Male Hume and other Female FFXI players that happen to be a Mithra like other players that happen to be a Elvaan or Hume Male.

Male mithra + Female Mithra = 1 out of every 20 Females is a Male which would explain why there protected..... BUT What if they were to mate with another Race!?!?!?!

Mithra + Hume = 50-50 chance to be a Male or Female.
Mithra + Elvaan = 50-50 Chance as well
Mithra + Tarutaru = not possible I Belive ... but maybe
Mithra + Galka = Impossible ... Period Galka = Sexless

Ok, because you seem to not be able to understand this:

NOTHING would happen if mithra mated with another race. The history in this game goes back hundreds of years, do you honestly think they would just *suddenly* say certain races can make half babies with each other just to get somerthing rese