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Auror
03-06-2006, 08:55 AM
Now this may be old news but it seems that not many ppl know about this. Im currently lvling cooking and am at lvl 54 as of yesterday. So at 52-53 i started yag drinx at lvl 60 cap without guild support cause i cant really get it cause im traveling so much. U c on my server, shiva, buburimu grapes r goin for about 7k a stack and yag cherries r bout 5k on the AH. Now as u may have realized i was burning through gil pretty fast buying the items necessary for 1cherry and 3 grapes per drink and the fact that i wasnt makin them succesfully all that much meant i was losing 2-7k on each set of grapes.

Knowing that there must b a better way i did some research and found that the kolshushu vender sells grapes from 180-240g a piece and cherries for around 50g a piece, much better than the AH price. In fact, seeing as how fast grape stacks sell one could probably buy the grapes from the vender and sell them at around a 5k profit pretty steadily as long as they were carefull not to flood the market, supply increase would result in a demand decrease and price decrease: economy 101, but seeing as how i need the grapes for skill ups that wont b my little pot of gold.

Neway for those cooks that have been in the same rut that i was in here is your salvation. and if you are looking into cooking here is a little jewel to prevent a decent gil pit. And this is a much better solution then gardening seeing as how fruit seeds and ice crystals can also cost a relatively significant amount.

Reincarnation
03-06-2006, 09:03 AM
There's always a better way! ^-^ Except sometimes you need others to help you with that better way... @w@;

PotentPotables
03-06-2006, 10:02 AM
I really hate to think of the amount of money you've spent crafting to your current level if you just found out that certain vendors sell certain things...

Almost everything needed for cooking can be bought, until you start messing with meat and fish. You should really do your homework online before attempting any more skillups.

Auror
03-06-2006, 12:23 PM
Actually ive gotten up to my level with fairly little net loss. Yes lots of things can be bought from vendors but also lots of things cant. So while ur trying to put others down do like i did and help out. post some unknown vendors and their wares and how it would help others instead of hurt.

Jei
03-06-2006, 12:38 PM
just for reference, always check sompage or ffrecipe when you craft ^^
http://www.ffrecipe.com
when you check recipe you can click on every ingradients listed and it will tell you which vendor sells them (if available.)

btw, if you don't ming losing money, stone cheese is VERY easy to get ingradients.
Stone Cheese [12] x 4
Cooking (61)
[Dark] Rock Salt, Selbina Milk

I hate yagudo drink. Making 1-2k profit a bottle is nice if you're patient enough to list them on AH 7 at a time. But I can make close to 400k a day with fishing alone so I prefer stone cheese and just NPC them. They stack, and salt/milk are always sold in sandoria/selbina.

Taskmage
03-06-2006, 12:47 PM
Now, now children.

Anyway, yes. Learn your regional vendors. Based on conquest status, even standard vendors will have different inventories. It always pays to check out what your options are before you start synthing. Guilds and the AH are generally a terrible ripoff, especially for cooking and low level crafting items from other guilds.

ffxi.somepage.com has a very good listing of where each item is available, for what prices, and under what circumstances. Whenever I start a new synth or get a new guild point item I always head over there to see where the ingredients of that item are available, or if the item can be purchased outright for cheaper than the cost of the ingredients in the case of GP items. Simple, but it seems a lot of people still don't do it, considering I can usually bazaar the items for exorbitant prices next to the guild, selling to characters that should have the wherewithal to pop over to the appropriate vendor and pick the items up themselves.

More to the point of this thread, here is a list of names, locations, and inventory listings and prices for all the regional vendors:
http://ffxi.somepage.com/regional-merchants.php

There's a very short list of ingredients for cooking that can't be acquired this way. Mostly fish, higher level meat, and mushrooms give me headaches. Of note: Chicken Bone (excavation only), Crawler Egg (very rare drop from 40+ crawlers), King Truffle (Extremely rare chocobo dig, only dropped by Killer Mushrooms, which take some skill and a character in the high 50s to farm), Acorn (common chocobo dig, but a pain to collect in reasonable numbers), and Puffball (another rare chocobo dig).

PotentPotables
03-06-2006, 01:04 PM
So while ur trying to put others down

I really hate to think of the amount of money you've spent

***You need some thicker skin if you think I was biting with THAT remark.

do like i did and help out.

You should really do your homework online

How much more help do you need?
Want some addresses to some Search Engines?
Want a bigger list of links to Craft Specific Sites than what has already been posted several times on numerous sites?!
Maybe you want me to photocopy the Crafting pages out of the Bradu Strategy Guide and post THOSE for you?


Wait, I know... Just send me your POL Login info and I'LL get the skillups for you with my multitude of hidden resources and vast underground knowledge.

Although, I must congratulate you on getting to Level 52 Cooking without any assistance from Cooking Forums and Information Sites... really... seriously, I commend your efforts... honestly...

Auror
03-07-2006, 07:54 AM
Ya that would b much apprecitated. and while ur at it u might as well send me all ur gil

PotentPotables
03-07-2006, 10:09 AM
Check your server against mine genius...

Oh wait, guess I could mail it you, huh? Would you like that? Amazingly, there is a way in this world to send stuff from one place to another!?! Here this whole time I've been trying to throw things across state! If only I had looked sooner I might have saved alot of heart-ache, huh...

neighbortaru
03-07-2006, 10:16 AM
ok that's enough you two. get back on topic or I'll close this thread.

PotentPotables
03-07-2006, 11:05 AM
Okay, back on topic, sorry >.>

Did any of you fellow level 60+ Cooks out there know that at the Cooking Guild, which I JUST found out was in Windurst [/shocked], sells Rock Salt?!? AND for CHEAP! Here I've been, this WHOLE time, purposely spending 20 Real-Life days failing Fire Ores to get Rock Salt.

Did anyone else know about this? If so, why didn't YOU respond to this thread with an entire list of recipe items and places they could be bought?! Shame on ALL of you....

There really should be some sort of definitive source for guilds and recipes. I don't know, maybe like some website with "recipe" AND "ffxi" in the address. Could someone come up with a website like this and post a link, because I forgot how to search for stuff using Google...

neighbortaru
03-07-2006, 11:10 AM
lol wiseass :rolleyes:

Aeni
03-09-2006, 04:21 PM
I got your Yag drink right here:


http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2151/p10004109pl.jpg


If you want some, contact me. I have cooking 100+52 to make these. Requires these ingredients:

Rainbow Crystal (Drops from [BC99+KS99] BC Fight, "When Pigs Fly...")
-Wyvern Piss
-Mithra Estrogen
-Blood of Prince Trion
-2x Distilled Water
-Dhalmel Saliva (Rare/Ex, so no, you can't send it to me)

PotentPotables
03-09-2006, 04:45 PM
I heard you could buy Mithra Estrogen from a Regional NPC from Kazham, is this true?

Can you really buy Mithran Hormone from vendors for 13-69gilz?!?

Here I've been farming it the hard way...

But at least I'm "Pimpin': Artisan" now...

Xandora
05-05-2006, 02:52 AM
The vendors have been my saviours, levelling to 53. Its a lot of travelling, but looking at the gil I have saved travelling to them cheered me on. ^^.

@Aeni: How would you farm that Mithra piss? =o

buteo
05-05-2006, 05:11 AM
Vendors were very much my savior for the yag drinks section. I spent a lot of time in port sandy lol

When the area went beastman controlled, I made a combination of Stone cheese, melon pies, and ginger cookies.

Slaneyder the Tiny
05-05-2006, 06:33 AM
I'm in the middle of leveling cooking myself, and I can honestly say that I have taken it to 70 with spare change and bellybutton lint. I was willing to dole out sexual favors if need be, but it turns out that if you use the regional and nation vendors, cooking is (le gasp!) cheap.

And I completely agree with PotPot's message, if not his delivery. As with anything in FFXI, research is the key. To jump headfirst into a craft without reading up would be like buying a level 75 account and attempting to solo Xolotl.

fizzywiz
05-05-2006, 12:17 PM
Er...you did know you can get rock salt for like 20gil in Ramburo (or whatever, at work) grocery store in South San D Oria right?

Taskmage
05-05-2006, 12:41 PM
Raimbroy, yeah. I have a mule in Sandy to get cooking ingredients for me. Funny that the cooking guild is in Windurst, but the grocery store is in San d'Oria, ne?

LoneGamer
05-07-2006, 09:42 PM
Taskmage: Acorns can be bought from vendors. Ronfaure regional, I believe. I know I skilled on Marron Glaces, which use acorns, and I never bought them from AH, and I'm pretty sure I got them in San d'Oria.

OP: Vendors are your friend. It's a lot of travel time unless you have mules, but it saves a lot of gil in the end.

Jei
05-07-2006, 10:06 PM
It's S-E's evil plan to have you make mules @@;

LoneGamer
05-07-2006, 10:08 PM
I get along with just one mule, and she only exists to hold gear >.>

PotentPotables
05-07-2006, 11:11 PM
1 mule per major city is the way to go...

Xandora
05-08-2006, 02:01 AM
I have... 3 mules. @-@. One for gear, one for levelling in lower areas when I'm bored, and one for overnighting on cooking and BCNM drops. The MH is full of juices and drinks.

Taskmage
05-08-2006, 01:23 PM
Ronfaure vendor sells chestnuts, which are used in Marron Glace. Acorns are logging/digging only afaik. Luckily Acorn Cookie can be bought from a vendor, so the only time you'll ever need them is when Turtle Soup is a guild point item.

LoneGamer
05-08-2006, 01:40 PM
*checks* Oh, you're right. My bad, sorry.

Neomage
05-08-2006, 01:43 PM
Thats the thing about cooking, you have to buy everything from vendors or it's almost always a loss. Knowledge > Gil Buying!

Antivomit
10-25-2006, 06:02 AM
lol, you guys are classic. SARCASM FTW!!!

Sabaron
10-25-2006, 08:33 AM
I got your Yag drink right here:


http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2151/p10004109pl.jpg


If you want some, contact me. I have cooking 100+52 to make these. Requires these ingredients:

Rainbow Crystal (Drops from [BC99+KS99] BC Fight, "When Pigs Fly...")
-Wyvern Piss
-Mithra Estrogen
-Blood of Prince Trion
-2x Distilled Water
-Dhalmel Saliva (Rare/Ex, so no, you can't send it to me)

Oh no! It's made by the Suntory Water Group! Run for the hills! (They own everything, even Hinckley & Schmidt).

Jethreal
10-25-2006, 10:22 AM
After 70 levs of cooking (72.3 now) I finally broke down and got my 2 other mules. Not so much for gaining access to vendors (though it will help, I'm rank 5 and have whm @ 42) but for AH space. I'm finding I have to do a LOT of cooking to get my skill ups and I've run out of storage space. As a side note Tuna Sushi is a good skillup item if you fish the tuna yourself, otherwise it's a loss with breaks.

kiffkin
10-25-2006, 11:06 PM
Royal Jelly. Much as I appreciate that we have a level 100 recipe with ingredients that are either available on the ah for a reasonable price or are farmable (and distilled water which doesn't count), why did SE have to have Royal Jelly drop from a standard skill-up mob?* Oh, and have it as an ingredient in Chocolixir.





*rhetorical question, and I know it drops from two other mobs, but not at my level.

Sabaron
10-25-2006, 11:19 PM
I've never camped the bees for XP. There's a nice little circuit and it's actually (except on weekends) clear relatively often. Besides, while you're farming the jelly you get incidental honey and beehive chips which can't be all that bad. Of course, they don't respawn terribly quickly, so a couple of farmers can camp them into extinction rather quickly.

kiffkin
10-26-2006, 03:07 AM
Yep, I know that circuit well :) . It's not farmers who are the problem, as it's fair enough that we should share the few mobs available, it's the people skilling up weapons/npcs. Sometimes there'll be a party fighting crawlers too, and someone will come through with an npc and kill anything that moves, shafting everyone else in the process. Usually it's people waiting for someone else to arrive for the escort quest.

I mean, I'm there fighting in my cooking gear, I have a bazaar comment saying I'm skilling up cooking, I have Cursed Soup for sale and I'm ignoring the crawlers - it should be pretty obvious what I'm doing :( .