Diablos

[Darkages]

i wounder where they are going to put diablos quest and i wounder how hard it is because i want him where i can go in balista and use him on people awsomeness i hope they dont put him in dynamis

[aegina]

i wounder where they are going to put diablos quest and i wounder how hard it is because i want him where i can go in balista and use him on people awsomeness i hope they dont put him in dynamis

translated for those who dont speak darkagesease: (who does? LOL)
I wonder where they are going to put the quest to acquire Diablos, and how hard that quest will be. Personally, i can't wait to use him in ballista! That sounds awesome! I also hope they don't put him in Dynamis...

[Jei]

he's harder to kill compare to searching the forum for sure xD if you can't do the former, I doubt you can do the latter.

[Darkages]

>.> mean lil people y cant yall just read my language ive been on here enough and everyone has gotten used to my language >.>
ive been sick past 2 weeks with 3 different viruses idk if he is out yet tho just help me out y do yall have to be mean about how i type i just got done with my exam and im borad and i never want to type proper again gawd i hate my keyborading teacher she gives to much to type i had to type 3 pages.......other note i want to no bc my parents have what they call "temporaraly grounded" me till exams are over......i want to play god damnit i want to get diablos where i can go to kazaham and rock all the mandys HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA(insert snapy comebak here)

[Grizzlebeard]

You need to have beaten him as part of the CoP missions before you can get the quest to fight him for summons.

[aegina]

the reason we can't just read through your language is because we can't READ your language >.>

and i'm sorry you've been sick

[Jei]

english is not even my language. think about it.

[DrivenTooFar]

english is not even my language. think about it.

Now that's just sad.

[Balfree]

you say its boring, yet you write WOUNDER instead of WONDER, which in my head is being a dumbshit because you, out of boredom, typed an extra letter into your word, which just doesnt make sense

[aegina]

english is not even my language. think about it.

where are you from, jei? i didnt see it in your profile.

[Kagerou]

Thailand if I'm not mistaken.

If you think Diabolos is cool, you should at least spell his name right. We don't need to get "used" to your language. Because holy crap, its impossible.

[aegina]

diabolos? oops, i've been misspelling his name too. i've been saying diablos >.> lol

[Jei]

I was from... bastok...

[Mog]

Rawr!!!

[Enialas]

a mob using Diablos in Dynamis will be so cool! 20 mobs and everyone hit with the Sleepga/DoT. {All Right!}

as if Dynamis wasn't difficult enough.

[Armando]

I'm pretty sure the original word is Diablos, "devils" in Spanish. I'm not sure where the heck that extra o came from in the official spelling. Maybe SE wanted to avoid even the faintest possibility of a stigma because of the name, or it could've simply been a typo (take it from me....it wouldn't be the first time I find a Spanish typo in the game) but I just thought I'd throw this out there. Hell, I'm not even sure if they ever did the word Diablos.

[Alucath]

Well, the ff8 spelling was Diablos.. So I can see where people get that spelling. I'm not sure what the original latin root of the word is, but Diablos apparently is spanish for demon whereas Diabol- seems to be a root of the word Diabolical (most likely latin). /shrug.

[Jei]

The other game is spelled Diablo too.

[Taskmage]

Really, I don't think his english would be that hard to slug through if only there was a period or a carriage return here and there. Ellipsis doesn't count. Ooh, and some commas would be cool, too.

Possibly the extra O in Diabolos is a nod to Japanese syllabary. I don't know how one denotes consecutive consonants in kana, but I know almost all consonant sounds are naturally followed by a vowel. Maybe when they localized it they figured Diablos and Diabolos were close enough that it wasn't worth changing.

Alternately, it might be a Gackt reference >,>

[Kagerou]

Alternately, it might be a Gackt reference >,>

If thats the case, I have to kill SE. Slowly and painfully.

[xiozen]

/sigh

I'm 0/3 on this avatar battle... anyone have any suggestions?

1st battle I don't really count... didn't have a decent set-up and we just wanted to see what would happen so that the follow-up battle can be well planned.

2nd battle, melee's let poison potions drop... and of course Sleepga II owned us... followed up by a rapidly cast Nightmare... wipezzzz!

3rd battle, DRK missed stunning Nightmare... wipezzzz!

I'm gonna try again tonight... any suggestions on a decent party set-up?

Thx!

[aegina]

someone won it on this thread, and discussed tactics for beating diabolos.

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52080&page=2&pp=20

short answer, stun-heavy ftw

[Karinya]

Re the name: my copy of Webster's lists the etymology of "devil" as
Middle English devel, fr. Old English deofol, fr. Late Latin diabolus, fr. Greek diabolos
- so that's where they got it.

The Spanish "Diablo" (and related words like "diabolical") most likely derive from the Latin form.

[aegina]

more than likely, it's just the way the jp's write it i think. they seem to like to stick extra vowels in here and there sometimes =D

[UnnamedGalka]

I'm gonna try again tonight... any suggestions on a decent party set-up?

Try to bring along a RDM/DRK.

At the very beginning of the fight, have the RDM activate Chainspell and spam Stun on Diabolos. Everyone else in your PT should do whatever it takes to make Diabolos' HP disappear before Chainspell wears off. If you have a few BLM with you, he'll go down very quickly.

[Karinya]

If you're lucky, yeah. Chainstun is not 100% reliable, mostly because of lag (it's possible for one stun to land *before* the previous one wears off, which results in a "no effect" message and the target being unstunned until the stun after that lands.) So it's possible for a chainstunned enemy to get in a few attacks. If one of those is Nightmare, you can quickly go from beating him "easily" to getting stomped, because the RDM almost certainly has hate at that point, followed by the BLMs, with the tank pretty far down the list.

And then you have to wait 2 hours to try again (assuming part of your party doesn't need to log off before then...)

I'd also recommend against chainstunning from the start. Have the BLMs and DRKs stun Nightmares until he gets down to about 2/3 and then start the chainstun. He seems to Nightmare more often as his HP gets lower, so going the early part of the fight without it is relatively harmless compared to making sure that he's going to be dead before Chainspell wears off.

One time I fought him with PLD, RDM/DRK (me), 2 BLM, 2 SMN, and both SMN used Judgment Bolt (Ramuh's 2hr) and got like 140 each - two 90% resists. (That was the same fight in which he later Nightmared during Chainstun.) Having a good party and a good strategy is necessary but not sufficient, you also need some luck. People who won on the first try often underestimate the difficulty because they don't realize how lucky they were (a principle that also applies to several other hard fights in this game, including Fenrir and RDM Maat).

[Shiyume]

Yeah, in Greek its Thiavolos (Diabolos), and I've heard it said Diabolos in Japanese in other things, so that's most likely what it is. Same thing you see with Cereberus/Cerberus/Keroberos, another common word in games and anime.

[UnnamedGalka]

If you're lucky, yeah. Chainstun is not 100% reliable, mostly because of lag (it's possible for one stun to land *before* the previous one wears off, which results in a "no effect" message and the target being unstunned until the stun after that lands.) So it's possible for a chainstunned enemy to get in a few attacks

That goes without saying. While Chainspell stunning, you can't jam a macro like a maniac and expect good things to happen. You have to pay attention to your log, and delay your stuns a bit so that they don't overlap each other with "no effect."

The RDM/DRK in my PT is a part of a Dynamis LS in which he's the head of the "Chainspell stunner group" for the Dynamis Lord...so needless to say, he handled Diabolos like a champ. Diabolos was barely able to take even a couple swings at us the entire fight (as short as it lasted).

Though, I neglected to mention that we went into the fight by having all five BLMs cast Thundaga III from the ledge. After we were drawn in, we gathered on the "safe tile," then our RDM did his Chainspell thing. A couple of Blizzaga III's later, we were headed back to Windurst to form a pact with the completely pwned Diabolos.

[DakAttack]

There's no reason for this fight to be mage onry. All you need is two reliable stunners to switch off. Dark Carol helps, but it isn't a must. It's basically like the 40 cap fight, exept he uses his midly strong 2hr near the middle. Nightmare is easy to stun because the cast time is about 5 seconds or so.

[Karinya]

There's no reason for this fight to be mage onry. All you need is two reliable stunners to switch off. Dark Carol helps, but it isn't a must. It's basically like the 40 cap fight, exept he uses his midly strong 2hr near the middle. Nightmare is easy to stun because the cast time is about 5 seconds or so.
Except when you stun it, he KEEPS the TP, so he can do it again right after.

Nightmare, stun, Nightmare, stun, Nightmare... wtf! Wipe. 3 stunners have a better chance, but still not perfect (even if he doesn't do a fourth Nightmare immediately, there's a decent chance he will have tp again within 45 sec). And UnnamedGalka, you should ask your friend about the effect of lag on Chainstun timing... taking potshots at the skill of someone you don't know and didn't see in action is kinda pointless.

Now of course that won't happen *every* time, sometimes you'll stun Nightmare and he'll Ultimate Terror instead or something. But it *can* happen and people who say "this fight is easy because I won it" are full of BS. It may be sometimes easy. It is not reliably easy. Difficulty depends extremely on Diabolos's choice of actions, which you cannot control.

[UnnamedGalka]

taking potshots at the skill of someone you don't know and didn't see in action is kinda pointless.

Umm...what? Since when did I do that?

I assure you, I wasn't taking "potshots" at anyone. I think you've been misunderstanding my posts.

[Karinya]

That goes without saying. While Chainspell stunning, you can't jam a macro like a maniac and expect good things to happen. You have to pay attention to your log, and delay your stuns a bit so that they don't overlap each other with "no effect."

The RDM/DRK in my PT is a part of a Dynamis LS in which he's the head of the "Chainspell stunner group" for the Dynamis Lord...so needless to say, he handled Diabolos like a champ. Diabolos was barely able to take even a couple swings at us the entire fight (as short as it lasted).
Eh, maybe I'm being oversensitive by looking at this and seeing "if you lose, your RDM/DRK sucked". Was that not what you intended to say?

I guess losing to him several times makes me a little short tempered with people who claim he's easy because they fought him once. He has some very nasty tricks up his sleeve and if he doesn't use them on YOU... count your blessings and don't assume your experience was typical.

[xiozen]

Eh, maybe I'm being oversensitive by looking at this and seeing "if you lose, your RDM/DRK sucked". Was that not what you intended to say?

I guess losing to him several times makes me a little short tempered with people who claim he's easy because they fought him once. He has some very nasty tricks up his sleeve and if he doesn't use them on YOU... count your blessings and don't assume your experience was typical.

I'm completely in agreement. I've lost to Diabolos 10 times before I finally won. And this is EXACTLY what we did:

Party setup: 3 blms (between 73-75lvl), 1 War, 1 Smn, 1 Rdm/drk. BTW - all BLMs were /rdm subbed.

Buffed up, went into the fight. We approached the ledge, looking down at Diabolos. BLM #1 yelled out the vanadiel clock time we would Elemental seal... then the vanadiel clock time, we would Thundaga III in unison. Red Mage used 2hr. At the appropriate times we cast the Thundaga III spell. As soon as the 1st spell connected, we were all DRAWN INto the battle field.

Upon landing, the RDM began looking out for Nightmare and nothing else. One of the BLM's was back-up stunner. The summoner would use Astral Flow + Chaotic Strike. The rest of the BLMs would nuke.

As soon as I landed I hit my Manafont macro... then ran to a "Safe" tile... Diabolos was still targeted.... and I started casting Blizzaga III.. (as were the other blms). As soon as it landed I started casting Thundaga III again... then Blizzaga III if applicable til he died. Fight lasted 1 min 49 seconds. I think I panicked at one point when I saw Diabolos readies Nightmare, but I had faith in the others in my party and just nuked til there was no tomorrow... I'll post the pick


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End result: :evil:

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I can't say this is a typical fight for Diabolos, but I can say since we broke the record as one of the fastest fights... it definitely has potentional.

Good luck everyone and I hope this guys you some assistance in your efforst in getting this INCREDIBLE avatar!

Xiozen

[Jokerboy1]

omg.. i want him.. he looks so sooo cool -_-

[Kalel]

I finally got Diabolos yeterday. Had paladin, smn, whm, blm, blm, red/drk party and did well. At 55-60% HP of Diabolos Rdm chainspelled Stun and we blms just nuke away at 50% HP and he was done. Thought I got scare he left aggression from paladin a sec and came our way lol.

[cahlum]

i thought we where talking bout diabolos not if we can understand his language..

[LadyPeorth]

Finally got him and I'm still very impressed. Nightmare hits decent well, however it's not nearly as good as Diabolos' version (deals DoT but other damage will awaken the slept). Noctshield is simply awesome if you have a Paladin tank. Ultimate Terror was kinda lack luster...drains stats like Absorb spells, but how many and what stats are random, and it doesn't tell you what stats were absorbed so it's kinda meh. Solomence is nice in that it is Dark Element and adds Gravity...but does very low damage. Casmedo is the same as most other level 10 type attacks for avatars...does decent damage though. I have yet to be able to tinker with Nether Blast (not that high leveled yet) but still he seems worth the anguish I went through.

[Genso]

Got him PT setup was PLD SAM BLM WHM SMN BLM

[Tiamat_Zero]

WEll it seem like he'll be a challange once I get to him

[SharMarali]

I've fought Diabolos several times (once for myself and then as a helper for others because apparently none of my friends seem to know ANY other RDM/DRKs than myself ><; ) ...And no matter WHAT method you use, there's still a margin of luck. I have a timing method that I use for my stuns rather than going by the log, and it works really well ... Except when he resists a stun. Which happens about once per battle. If we're lucky, he doesn't use Nightmare at that point. If we're unlucky, he uses it and his HP are so low by then that if ANYBODY wakes up they can probably kill it. But he always uses Ruinous Omen while we're Nightmare'd heh.. Not a winning combination.

I've been fortunate in that I've been able to win repeatedly despite all of this. And no, it doesn't have to be BLM only, but having a couple of BLMs really helps a lot. The last round I went, we did RDM/DRK, BLMx2, SMN, MNK, and uh.. Something else, I forget what the last job was. Went just fine.

Yes, it's a hard fight. No, there's really no "surefire" method to win, no matter what anyone tells you about bringing a RDM/DRK and a bunch of BLMs. There's always an element of luck, because he CAN resist stun and he CAN do nightmare right after he resists it. Your PT needs to be really skilled, no matter which method you're using to win.

[Finalwhisper]

hmm FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1/6 on Diabolos Prime~ woooo!
lol man i wasnt really paying attention to the battle as i was busy keeping myself from dying but... it took us 4min and 30secs but the actual fight took maybe a min and a half... 3 mins of strategy and buffs... bleh :( well anyways i was the leech^^: haha dont be mad at me though! i did end up spending 3 mil on party members XD! anyways enough of that...haha let me tell you how we did it~

Used this party set up:

me>>>>leech(lvl37WHM/SMN)
75BLM/WHM
74BLM/WHM
74RDM/BLM
74RDM/BLM
75WHM/BLM

IM not sure what happened but both me and the WHM two-hour was down(Benediction) so WHM had to CuragaIV couple times...well the battle went pretty fast... It was THunderday and BLMs Cast ThundagaIII from above and we got drawn in... except me because i disbanded the party...and in about 45secs he started dropping tiles...then WHM invited me back...then i got drawn in and Then got hIt my Runious Omen(Ouch) WHM CuragaIV then one of the BLMs die and before i could cast Blink on myself, the battle was over....I was soooo happy i almost wet myself O_o lmao jk~ naw but it was awesome! i know the RDMs chainspell>>something to keep aggro but other then that idk what really was goin on >< but it can be done with only 5 members! keep that in mind! there is hope as i have proved^^ goodluck to you all!!

[forster]

Congratulations, but Id imagine the problem with taking him down was that the party had a leech in it :P

[Karinya]

My latest loss to Diabolos: me as RDM/DRK, 3 BLM, PLD, some random DD. BLMs nuke from ledge, draw in, PLD vokes, we start doing some damage, BLMs stun a couple nightmares.

His HP @ 60%, I activate Chainspell. At that *exact second*, Diabolos uses Nightmare. None of the BLMs stuns. By the time I wake up, Chainspell has worn off and a couple people are dead (I think he might have Ruinous Omened then too, not sure). Wipe.

Since the PLD hadn't 2hred in the first run, we decided to try again without Chainspell, with me as the healer. Bad idea - if the BLMs couldn't keep a stun order for half the fight, they certainly couldn't keep it for the whole fight. PLD gets Nightmare > Nether Blasted and dies while invincible is still on (everyone who could heal is, of course, asleep). I don't think we even got the tiles to drop that time.

Sooner or later I'll get one of those mythical easy Diabolos fights... well, unless the people who say that he's easy are just confusing it with the capped mission fight or something.

[Kalel]

Well we cant blame you for being a leeche. I can only say to ppl who help a 37 fight and do absolutely nothing beneficial to party: their idiots. Well at least things worked out for you. But if it didnt and they all got r1s that would be so funny.