Gil buying for the Holidays...

[Omniblast]

If all of a sudden you received 2 million gil from someone in your Linkshell, and you were fairly certain that they don't have that much gil, as well as everyone in your Linkshell receiving the same amount, the most obvious conclusion would be that they purchased gil to send to everyone.

The only thing that they said about that was, "Merry Christmas! Enjoy!" or "Happy Holidays! Enjoy!"...

Would you.. Accept the gil or not? Knowing very well that it was bought...

Edit: Changed to 2 million since that's the minimum for gil purchase via IGE.

[Brayden]

I'd accept it. Its a nice jesture on their behalf.

[DakAttack]

What I don't know can't hurt me.... right?

[Enialas]

well, you really can't "know fully" if they don't admit it.

regardless of the aparrent wealth of the person. it could be that they got "x" amount from somone leaving the game and wanted to share it since it was this season and not anyother time of the year when they'd keep it for themself.

I was part of 1 ls where only one person knew that i kept my accout on FFXI while i was playing WoW so they gave me some items, if everyone else wasn't in denial that I didn't completely leave FFXI like them i could have gotten over 30M gil.

ls leader: if i knew you were still playing...
me: i told you i was, i just needed a break... /sigh

[tdh]

Can you even Drop gil sent to you in your /deliverybox?

[eriatarka]

if you really feel like getting rid of gil from the economy you can send it to a character anddelete that character... probobly can drop gil that comes in your box just thats a kind of thing you never really check for to do ^^

[tdh]

I mean I've never actually tried to drop gil sent to me. I mean I need all the gear I can get my hands on. But I have noticed that if gil is sent to you from the AH, you can't drop that. I'll have to remember to check the next time a LS member sends me gil.

[Omniblast]

Sorry, I made the asumption that gil that is sent from person to person is a type of transaction like sending a item. You cannot accept gil if your inventory is full, so in a sense it acts like a item that is seperate from your inventory, however like such an item it can be dropped and returned.

I have not voted personally for myself yet, I am eager to see the results, however I didn't want a [null] vote to be counted for me either :\

[Aeni]

Omni, here's the thing.

There's many ways someone could get a large amount of gil in-game where he/she had not previously. Unless you know this person inside and out (By that, I mean that he's an acquaintance in real life) you cannot assume anything based on what little you have to go on. Suspicion and rumors are just that and unfortunately, in this game, either you play this game with paranoia 24/7 or you have to give the benefit of doubt.

If you want my opinion on how such a large amount of gil can still be integrated into the economy without rocking the boat, then spend it wisely. There is a big difference between buying something 50%+ more than the normal history suggests with the gil or using the gil to slowly build up skill in some craft.

In either event, if you really want to do "your part" you could tactfully ask the person where this new found wealth came from and if he/she did buy gil, show your appreciation for the consideration but also inform him/her of your opinion on what or why you think that was bad judgement on his/her part.

[Susurrus]

Even if they did buy it, it isn't like the gilsellers CREATE gil. They just traffic it. The gil was already in the game, and someone bought their item that they sold, and they have that gil. Now they give that gil to someone else for irl currency. So there's no reason to dump it unless you just want to take gil out of the economy, which then you might as well just dump all the gil you currently have.

[Aeni]

The gil was already in the game...

Not unless they fish bot and NPC the catches. Then the gil was not yet made existent until the moment those fish botters "traded" to the NPC and in return, got gil "made."

[Jei]

if I know for sure it's bought, i'll return it. I want no relations with gil buyers.
if I drop it, the person might assume I accept it. So returning is more clear what my stance is.

in the other hand, I could use a kraken club or two...

[Blood Red Poet]

Gil given to me is somehow wasted on some crap. Dropping it wouldn't be a bad idea, however I would accept the gift. 1 mil is a lot different from like... 10 mil. If it was like 10 mil, I'd probably only keep 5% and drop the rest. 1 mil, I'd keep the whole thing. He already bought the gil and throwing it away wouldn't help

[DeathFromAbove]

NEW SNIPER RING wooo, >.> i mean i would drop it of course! ( /poke {Money}) nvm its real.. NEW SNIPER RING wooo!!!

[chrono1975]

my reply is ... "you can keep your blood money you hooligans"! and I'll send it back, I strongly disaprove of gil buying, I farm for what I have, and someone using real money to buy ingame items is just friggin sad, I work for what I have, in game and in real life.
Oh look at me! I just bought a BMW M3, oh shoot I wrecked it cuz I can't drive worth sh**!
you know what I'm getting at.

[Shiyume]

I don't like gilsellers, but a gift is a gift. And besides, its his money and he's free to waste it, but I'd feel bad if he bought me all that gil and I just throw it away. I would never buy gil myself, but I don't see an issue accepting it from someone else. Its his to give away.

[tdh]

Hmm, bought gil? It's the thought that counts.... right? lol

[(Takemuke)]

If you accept the gil then you can play at the next level. Who wouldn't want that?

[Ghostraven]

If you accept the gil then you can play at the next level. Who wouldn't want that?

haha @ IGE slogans

[theduckdogz]

Giving Gil As A Gift Seems A Little...Weak...I Always Like Doing Something Special Like PLing All The Lower LVs I Can Find In LS, Or Just Around. Or Better Yet Send A Rare Item Or Two To Your RL Friends. Giving Gil Is Like Giving Money To Your Friends (Plus Only Grandma's & Grandpa's Give You Money For X-Mas).

Be Creative Give A Gift & Not Cash (Gil)

*If I Did Get Gil Bought Or Not Bought I Would Use It For More Stuff For Friends*

[aegina]

sorry, i'd accept it. i'd probably blow it in 12 minutes, but i'd accept.
knowing me, though, i'd end up blowing a lot of it on junk, like a kingdom aketon or something...

[Draco Dagon]

Giving Gil As A Gift Seems A Little...Weak...I Always Like Doing Something Special Like PLing All The Lower LVs I Can Find In LS, Or Just Around. Or Better Yet Send A Rare Item Or Two To Your RL Friends. Giving Gil Is Like Giving Money To Your Friends (Plus Only Grandma's & Grandpa's Give You Money For X-Mas).

Be Creative Give A Gift & Not Cash (Gil)

*If I Did Get Gil Bought Or Not Bought I Would Use It For More Stuff For Friends*

Not everybody cares to be given some useless gift they can't use (regardless of how someone may or may not of "fought" for it), which makes even a gift card useless. I for one don't accept anything but cash and perhaps gift cards IF it's to Gamestop or Best Buy. (But I don't celebrate Christmas anyhow, anymore.)

Anyhow...

Would I accept gil? You bet I would. Making gil can be hard as it is, and getting armor is hard also. Accepting gil is like accepting help anywhere else in life. (Albeit, FFXI is not one's life.)

[DrivenTooFar]

I admit that I would probably accept the gift also. I know it's not good to support gilsellers and buyers but I didn't do the buying. That would be something that my friend should worry about. But I wouldn't drop the gift and I would spend it wisely.

[faith]

iI would say to just share it with new players and friend,when i started to play some 1 gave me 300k for absolutly nothing i dint even knew him,on that 300k i ended to ony use 80k for myself and shared the rest to many ppls i dint knew etheir.

[Deviantkat]

Giving Gil As A Gift Seems A Little...Weak.

There are lots of weak gifts out there, but most of the time they're the best gifts for people who don't know exactly what you want... If however, a friend of yours knew you really wanted a Woodsman Ring and you were trying to save up but knew it would be a long time before you had enough. Would it still be weak for them to buy gil to get it for you? If its the thought that counts, then I'd say they're being very thoughtful and giving in that gesture.

It may not be right to buy gil to give a gift, but there's nothing wrong with someone showing their appreciating to others by buying it and giving it away in one form or another. I'd say the good deed outweighs the bad here.

After all, this is a situation that crops up irl... If you were too poor to get a gift for someone important to you, what would you do to get it for them? Surely you'd accept more options than either giving up or working yourself to death.

[(Takemuke)]

No, return the gil to the person and then KILL THEM IN THE FACE, and laugh at them

I chose this option.

[aegina]

wow... a lotta people seem to be saying they'd accept it...

scary...

[mathias22]

iam really sorry to ask u all but i just registerd on playonline comunity site. and it said the aplication will come on your email and i have waited for two days then i tried it on my other email and it still didnt work :worry: maybe some one nos wuts my problem plz help me ty

[Deviantkat]

iam really sorry to ask u all but i just registerd on playonline comunity site. and it said the aplication will come on your email and i have waited for two days then i tried it on my other email and it still didnt work :worry: maybe some one nos wuts my problem plz help me ty

Maybe you should try making a new thread to ask.... o.O

[mathias22]

id accept it

[faith]

iam really sorry to ask u all but i just registerd on playonline comunity site. and it said the aplication will come on your email and i have waited for two days then i tried it on my other email and it still didnt work :worry: maybe some one nos wuts my problem plz help me ty

Kinda not the good place to ask this ,personnali i dint even wait 1 day for the email to come,mayeb u wroe wrong email even if i doubt about that,or maybe it went in ur junk folder of ur email,take a look nothing to lose or try to ask another confirmation,good luck with that.:thumbsup:

[Kailea]

I am not for gil selling or buying....but if it was a gift from someone that I was friends with........ to me, throwing it awy, and telling them or not telling them even, would be rude and very disrespectful to that person.

[saige]

id take it just because it was a gift, i wouldent want a friend to waste money for me to say i dont want it, that would be pretty messed up. altho i would take it i wouldent give someone money/gil for a pressant id give em armor or somethin ^_^

Double Post Edited:
btw this is off topic but what is the gil thing under out avatars for? "Gil: 255 (Donate)"
is that buying gil?

Double Post Edited:
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[=Tuyen=]

Well as for me that is a very tough decision, if someone just randomly sent me gil especially 1 mil, as far as saying No now wouldnt be a problem, I am just not sure how well i would do in making the right choice when the time came, but I suppose I would do my best to remember that recieving gil that you buy yourself, or someone els bought could very well be against the terms of service or just FFXI rules in general.

[Mog]

Eh, I would probably just drop the gil. I don't want to damage the economy and I think that 1 million gil on my server would hurt the server more, compared to other servers.

[Kailea]

Eh, I would probably just drop the gil. I don't want to damage the economy and I think that 1 million gil on my server would hurt the server more, compared to other servers.


it would only hurt the econony if you.....oh say payed 1mil for a 500k item, but if you buy things a t normal prices, that gil no matter how much you get will not hurt

[rflulling]

If it were a Legit action I suppose. But the gill is as good as Pirated. The sellers are mostly Chinese, and run pretty high tech labs with only one intent. Selling gill. They farm everything we farm except with avengence and no remorse for those who need the items. Perhaps we should just buy the items from THEM if we can get them ourselves...? Nope I dont think so.
Whats worse they get away with it. The account can be cacled but there are millions more where that came from. Also every one other than the UK, and US, gets a pop several seconds before us. All those rules tat are ment to inhibit theft of mobs, doesnt realy effect the sellers, its their jobs to the stuff at all costs.

We are the marks.

Theres nothing legit about gill sales, or the purchase of it. Find a seller, get proof and report them ASAP. Result is Termination of account.

[Grizzlebeard]

I find it hilarious that so many people openly curse gilsellers/gilbuyers and take the moral high ground on the subject and yet the majority of people who voted would have no issue taking the gil.

[=Tuyen=]

I dont really curse it......I just say that to cover up myself.....*cough*iboughtgiloffebayyesterday*cough * but shhhhhhh......xD

Note: as far as their account getting termination, that is a myth what people do outsidde of the game has nothing to do with SE, yes SE does not like it, and it can get out of hand, but if you look at the legal side of it, SE has no control over what goes on in real life. As for the Chinese workers, you can exspect them to find any means of making money, most of the country is poor, I have a friend who just moved to America and he lived in China. If your family was starving would you find a way to make money and put food on the table?

This was taken from an ebay seller and is proof that its not that legal for SE to do anything about it:

"[Disclaimer]
you are paying me for the time to play this game and not for the acauired virtual item. in exchange, i trade you this item as FREE WILL in-game. All characters, All items and gil related to Final Fantasy.XI is the property of SQUARE ENIX CO.,LTD. All registered names and trademarks are perperties of their respective owners."

[Enialas]

I find it hilarious that so many people openly curse gilsellers/gilbuyers and take the moral high ground on the subject and yet the majority of people who voted would have no issue taking the gil.

"the most obvious conclusion" doesn't mean "know fully"

ie. they have to admit it, and admitting it cancels "most obvious conclusion"


while circumstantial evidence suggests so, there are also other alternatives. maybe a rl friend/family member bought them a lot of gil? maybe a rl friend/family member was leaving the game?

i found out that my set of centurion armor i have in storage i bought at 10-20k a piece is now going for +100k a piece, unless you liquidate what you've got and keep tabs on it, any high level can have millions of gil in equipment. if they had 2x astrals, leaping boots, emporer hairpin and rabit charm, there's over 10M gil there.

if they had a hauby... serket rings go for 8-10M now...

if they /tell me they bought it, that's different, but if i have to "guess" and "assume" b/c of circumstantial evidence then i'll give them the benefit of doubt.

otherwise I'll have to make sure if I sell something on the AH isn't bought with RMT gil. otherwise it's the same thing, I accepted bought gil.