Project: Avatar reskinning

[Amadaun]

So, since I'm technically supposed to be painting a color wheel for art class, I need something to take up my tinme, so I won't feel so guilty ignoring my assignment. ^^

Hence, my new project. (To work on when I'm sick of making new armor.)

The plan: To redo the Summoner's avatars. Make Shiva look more icy and ethereal (I can already tell this is going to give me conniptions....), improve Garuda's wings, have Titan look more, I don't know, earthy? Rocky? Whatever.

Suggestions and feedback appreciated, as always.

Now, to start out with, the first draft of Carbuncle! (He's shiiiiiiny now. ^^)

[Monet]

I like, I like...Quite the complimentary contrast with the crimson and teal. You should make that strip all the way back to his tail crimson.

[Amadaun]

Okay, need some opinons. I kinda want to redo Titan's hair color, but I can't make up my mind on how it should look. I'm trying to decide between:

Blue/purple- His natural hair color, and why change it?
Red- I dunno, lava maybe?
Green- Like grass, since he's earth and all.
Yellow- Never figured him for a blonde, but yellow is the color of earth, so...

Picture attached with the recolors. Yes, I know it's sloppy, and I know it looks like the Microsoft logo, and I know that staring at it for more than a few second will burn out your eyes, but bear with me. ^^

[Kaylik]

I like either the green or yellow, and the avatars look great btw ^^

[tomfin10]

The Carbuncle looks awesome. For Titan, I like his natural purple hair the most.

[DakAttack]

If you put clothes on Garuda I'll keel you.

[Monet]

Go with teh yellow... In fact, give him all the season, yellow-white streaked with light green tips or sporadic strings... yeah...

[Yarr]

would be more fun if you could retexture them like this..



(I was having fun playing around with 3D Studio Max)


http://cobrakaidojo.net/Gallery/albums/album37/Fenrir_Metal3.jpg

http://cobrakaidojo.net/Gallery/albums/album37/Ifrit_Crystal_bump.jpg

(Low Detail render. I wanted to get an idea of what it looked like before I let it render for 20+ hours lol)
http://cobrakaidojo.net/Gallery/albums/album37/Crystal_Garuda_lowres.jpg

[Yarr]

Im not proud of that garuda lol, it was a rough draft render.

[Yoko]

Both are good, just different. Yours are just more evil looking, kinda decayed, while Ama's are a tad more blending into the ffxi character/model type :p Great work for both! now hurry up and make garuda! XD

[Omniblast]

Can someone please give Fenrir a nose?!!?!

[Amadaun]

Yarr: Those are incredibly cool! I'd kill for a copy of 3DSMax. >< The Fenrir one looks a lot like what I had in mind for him, too. ^^

So, anyway, I discovered something interesting when I tested Carby an Titan ingame: the glow that surrounds the avatars really bleaches them out. So Titan, instead of being dark brown like I meant, became a much dustier color. (which I think I actually like better) I darkened them up a bit and came up with what you see below, along with a very rough Garuda. I haven't done much with her yet, except adjusting her color.

And yes, I will give poor purple puppy a nose. ^^

(edit: Do you know how hard it is to get decent screenshots when you only come up to Titan's belly button? O.o)

[silentsteel]

^o^ those are so cool!

can you get something we can download & tell us where the .dat files are?

[Amadaun]

^o^ those are so cool!

can you get something we can download & tell us where the .dat files are?

Once I get them all done, I'll try to put the files up for download somewhere, along with my other skins that I've made. Unfortuneatly, the only site I have is Geocities. ; ; So if anyone knows of a good, free, site where I can put these or is willing to host them for me, let me know.
(Unless I'm allowed to post them here as zip files. I don't really know, can someone tell me?)

Screenshots of my progress so far to be found below.

[Yarr]

Amadaun

if you want to throw up the files somewhere I can host them on my site cobrakaidojo.net or yarrthepirate.com. I wouldnt mid downloading em and playing with em in 3dsmax

Double Post Edited:
Didnt really do anything special but make titan a crystal style like ifrit only smooth. Still playing around with him.

http://cobrakaidojo.net/Gallery/albums/album42/titantest5.jpg

[Hyades]

Can host them too. Need more avatar stuff in my avatar section on my site since I mainly work on the pc's (player characters).

For those that don't know
http://shadowslair.shadow-ffxi.com/

IF interested, can send pm to you and give you ftp access so you can upload whatever, whenever. Then later, I'll catch it probably and put it on my site. Otherwise, someone else can do it as I don't care, kthx :P.

[Hotsuma]

Amadaun, at first, when I saw the first pics I wasn't that impressed, I thought: ehh thats doesn't look that different, but then when you compared it with the old ffxi model I was blown away. Really nice job I especially like Titan.
Yarr: that texturing is really cool, although i don't like the fenrir pic too much the ifrit pic is awesome. Keep up the good work both of you!

[Hyrist]

I am most definatly intrested in geting these .date files when they are ready.

If I coudl get my hand on all the software (for free) I would get to work on personalizing the AF farmors according to race, I think it would be nice if someoen did that, and I have a good idea how...

[Lakario]

I am most definatly intrested in geting these .date files when they are ready.

If I coudl get my hand on all the software (for free) I would get to work on personalizing the AF farmors according to race, I think it would be nice if someoen did that, and I have a good idea how...

Spelling Nazi says: ".dat files"

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On that note, you actually can get your hands on the necessary programs for free, perhaps Photoshop being the only exception that would require a little illegitimacy.

Here's what you'll need:

Model Viewer (http://www.folye.net/lists.html)
Metasequoia (http://www21.ocn.ne.jp/~mizno/main_e.html) Trial or Lite version works. (Optional, only for polygon editing and remodeling.)
-Photoshop- (I leave that up to you)
NVIDIA DDS utilities (http://developer.nvidia.com/object/nv_texture_tools.html)

Process:

Open up Model Viewer and find the model/texture you would like to modify under either NPC or PC. Then click on the "DAT to MQO" button and if it is a PC select the aspect of the body you would like to modify, otherwise, for NPCs, simply use the save window provided.

Load up Photoshop with the DDS utilities installed (it's a plugin). Open the .bmp texture file you will be modifying and edit the texture to your heart's content. When finished click File > Save As, choose "D3D/DDS (*.DDS)" as the save format, and overwrite the .DDS file for the texture. In the window that loads select "DXT3 ARGB (Explicit Alpha)" from the drop down menu and, leaving everything else alone, click Save.

Now go back into the Model Viewer and click on File > Convert MQO to DAT (M). In the new window navigate to your saved model file and click Open. You will see the changes immediately inside Model Viewer and they will also be reflected in the game. If at any point you ever need to revert to an original model click File > Restore DAT from Backup (B), select the automatically saved model file in the new dialogue, and press OK.

If you have any more questions feel free to ask. Also, take a look at this thread on the Windower forums:

http://ffxi.archbell.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1387

Good luck!

[Omniblast]

Spelling Nazi says: ".dat files"


I wonder if I could invoke Godwin's Law? Probably not since it wouldn't make sense.

[Hyrist]

I got a quick question about transparencys, when converting.

I am playing around with the rdm feather and every time I edite it I end up getting the grey areas in origonal BMP are now showing up in the actual retextured file.

I've tried converting it to plain Transparent in the actual BMP file but it dosent seem to help.

Any sugestions here?

[Amadaun]

What you need to do is to use Alpha mapping, that'll make areas transparent. Go to Phabin's site:
http://phabin.folye.net/
And halfway down the page on texture editing, you'll find the tutorial for alpha mapping. Let me know if you need any more help than that. (The images aren't loading for me, but it could just be my computer.)

[Hyrist]

Its not loading for me either, which stinks cause I really do learn visually. I'm not quite sure how he is doing all the saving parts to the alpha channel.

Edit: Addionally, he is using a differnt model viewer than I am... Aphla channels probley arnt applied the same way. Is there anyway for me to apply an aplha channel in Photoshop that would transfer over?

[Amadaun]

Here's an example of the alpha map for Garuda.

The first image is of the plain skin. If I just used that, she would have the blocky feathers.

The second image is the alpha map. If you use the Graphics Converter program and open this as an alpha map for the first image, you would get Image #3. (well, not quite, imagine that the black areas in the third image is transparent.) Your alpha map and skin must be exactly the same size, pixel-wise.

Hope this helps.

[Hyrist]

Could you link me to the graphics converter you are using? It would be more advanced than what I am using, and would alow me to use that alpha channeling thats your method.

Double Post Edited:
Actually, meet me in chat, this will speed things right up ^^;;

[Amadaun]

http://www.folye.net/phabin/gc3.html

This page has the link to where you can get it, as well as the program you'll probably need to unzip it.

[Hyrist]

Thanks, I stumbeled upon it on my own. Can we meet in chat?

NVM I think I got it down. Whew, I havent had this much fun seince I was a newbie with photoshop. Expect alot of art comming from me in the next few months!

[Lakario]

I can't seem to get the winzip plugin required to open the GC file downloaded. Do you know where I can get a working link? ; ;

[Tan'o]

I can't seem to get the winzip plugin required to open the GC file downloaded. Do you know where I can get a working link? ; ;

Use Winrar.

[Hyrist]

Lakario, you can extract this file with a copy of Winrar which you can get from the link listed below:

http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm

[Lakario]

Yes, I have winrar but it says corrupt everytime. Maybe there's a newer version, hmm..

[tazirai]

Good job in the Skins.. maybe ill jump into the fray I have some interesting ideas for a Fenrir skin.

Basically turn him gray/black/silver and purple. Basically make him look like a Dark Crystal

[Lakario]

I got the most recent version of winrar (3.5 corporate edition) and I still can't unpack that file. :(

[Hyrist]

I was able to open it with the 3.0. It sounds though like you got a regestry problem with your computer. If its reading all zip files as corrput, you my have spyware in your computer, or worse, a virus.

[Razalom]

Yeah those are some nice updates so far to the avatars

[silentsteel]

Good job in the Skins.. maybe ill jump into the fray Yes, get into the fray! make awesomer looking avatars! and maby some possible ones for the upcomming expantion!

Edit: did not mean yours are bad looking, just saying she should do some too :thumbsup:

[Jordache]

Can you guys make a solid gold titan encrusted with jewels?

[Amadaun]

Can you guys make a solid gold titan encrusted with jewels?

Heh, I could try at least. ^^ I want to finish my first ideas though before I start on the requests. (And shake off this horrible cold I've had all week...@_@ I haven't managed to get anything done for several days now.)

Still trying to work out the website. I've registered amadaun.com, but for some reason it's not letting me put up my site. I need to call my friend and nag at him...grrrrr...

[Ryadbraman]

Wow, these are looking great! And the timing couldn't be more perfect... I'm just now going through the mini-prime avatar quests, and I have to say that your textures so far are making the in-game ones look {Too weak}. :P Anyway... I can't wait for you to finish these up and make them available to download!

I did have a few questions though. Do you think you might consider putting in the time to make an enhanced version of the original as well as your own versions? Like... I'd love to see the enhanced Titan with his original colored hair.

Also, I think as an "alternate" version of Garuda, you could have her wings go from green to blue near the tips... I thought that might look pretty nice.

And one more question/suggestion. Is there a way you can make the glow a little more noticable? Also, I think it would be cool to add a bluish, yellowish or purplish glow to Ramuh's eyes.

Anyway, keep up the good work! I look forward to trying these out!

[Razalom]

Yeah cant wait to get these. Also going through the mini-avatar fights atm.

[Amadaun]

Ramuh was difficult to do, since he was so cool-looking already, so I'm going to need lots of feedback on him. He ended up looking a lot creepier than I meant him to.

Next up: Leviathan- Make him look a little less like a dead fish.
-or-
Fenrir- Make him look less like a bad Photoshop filter.

[IamNate]

Ramuh <3 very cool

[tazirai]

Ramuh wo, Suki desu^^

[Hyrist]

I got a sugestion of Ramuh.

There are several lines along his armor that would look very good if they were rerendred in the violet used for his undercape. Giving even his armor a thundery look that would glow with the overshadow they give the Avatars. It might look a little Dynamisis but it will most definatly bring out the 'living thunder' idea.

[Rai-Jin]

more more more I want to Change that stuff too :( I mean I dont want it for me I want to keep my files Pure but i wanna do it for fun and for other People..actually I could just do the textures with photoshop ya?

[Ryadbraman]

He looks ok.... the gray hair kinda makes him look washed out, in my opinion. Also, you might want to make the edges of the alpha map less jagged... you can especially see jagged edges along the bottom of Ramuh's robe. Also, the red crystal in his staff doesn't really go with the whole Thunder = purple theme. I'd probably make the purple deeper and more saturated, and bump up the glow if that's possible. Maybe even change his eye color to bluish-purple or gold.

[Balodoth]

I would have agree Ryad there. While the silver hair fits in more with the idea of thunder, it just lacks contrast with the face. Maybe if you turned the eyes white (allowing you to change the staff) you could have Vana'diel's first black Ramuh. . . :-D

Or you could just make the beard a bit more salt n' peppered and add a slight tinge of purple to help differentiate it from the face. I'd still change the eyes though.

[Galaxia]

You should really consider sending these to SE and letting them see them cause there awsome. Much better then Avatars now hehe.
Can you do a Shiva? Her cloak thing needs alot of work its so pointy

[anaya]

when will you host them for download? :<

[Jordache]

can you more of those glass avatar pics that are on the front page... those are kool <3

[Nicolette]

titan is gorgeous, im forcing all the smn i know on PC to download and switch the .dats. I have trouble seeing more than the more detail you added to garuda but switched that as well. Maybe ill go fight the prime to see. If carby is done can we have that too? and are you doing shiva and ifrit sometime soon? shiva/ifrit/fenrir would be nice to have better looking avatars for :) Keep up the good work

[silentsteel]

*gasp* where are any new ones? I know you're prolly busy. . . but still. *is very impatient*

[Elesirdur]

Excellent work re-texturing. Some comments on Ramuh:

The extra darkness you've added to his skirt seems too much. The detail that was found in the original model appears to have been swallowed up by the lack of contrast between the main colour and the detailed lines. The skirt and the waistcoat don't match up, though I'm not sure if that's to be worked on or changed when properly alpha mapped.

[Amadaun]

Finally! An update!

Just a little WIP shot for Leviathan. I changed the pink to green and I tried to make him a little shinier so he would look wet. His new texture is only about half there so far-I'm planning on giving him better defined scales, and probably going to darken up his stomach a bit so that it's not so blinding. (His bottom half is untextured so far.)

Oh, and I think I'm going to scrap Ramuh's bottom half and try to do it over, as well as adding more contrast to his head. (Will not give him goth makeup...will not give him goth makeup...)

[Pesh]

these are very nice, its funny but im most excited about the new squirrel ><

[Selenity]

When you do shiva - would it be possible to give her a different coloration? Maybe more like how she looked like from other games? Less purple (that color is so ugly on her..) and more blue/teals/white? Like whitish-blue skin with blue and teal hair? and if it was possible to change how her costume looks like to look more the ones from previous games. I've attached a few pictures of her from various other Final Fantasys.. though I think she'd look better if her hair could be remodeled. More or less make her look less like a blue and purple elvaan and more like she was carved from ice ^^;

Hope this helps inspire you. ^^;

Link to a very good Shiva Resource > http://rinoa.nu/shiva/

[Amadaun]

Ask and ye shall receive.

Guess who's supposed to be doing homework rather than reskinning avatars...and who is reskinning avatars anyway? :evil:

Um...yeah...anyway... I was inspired by Selenity's post and started working on Shiva. I'm trying to make her look more icy, parts of her are working (namely her chest) and parts of her aren't. (Namely her thighs...which I'm going to remodel anyway. Because, honestly, they scare me. :eek: )

I'm actually tempted to leave her naked, because I'm so happy with the way her torso turned out. And I wish I could manage to log into the game and find out how it actually looks, but, ah well.

So I give you: Shiva! (aka: My avatar hath no clothes!)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/sidhejester/Shiva.jpg

[Quixotica]

Wow, she looks much better already! I can't wait until that skin is ready!

[Selenity]

Wow she's looking much better already! - Is there any possibility that her hair could be remodeled to not be those weird .. hair.. tenticle things - but one solid piece of hair?

[Mellowy]

I think I like the whole blue skin look more than the hume skin look I've seen over at the japanese modelling page XOOP or whatever it was called.

I want!

[Nicolette]

Amadaun seems to be on vacation. Midterms?

[Hyrist]

I like the way its going so far, I might want to add a few sugestions.

For the darker parts of it, namley the hands and feet, see if you can make a resemblance of ice, much like Ifrit's and Titan's gauntlets resemble rock and lava more, that would realy bring out the avatar's image more.

The body is nice, you are right a bout the chest, what you can do about that is make the texturing more faint around the area and let the lighting itself do the darkening.

A texture detail on the cloth she carries with her on her arms would be keen, along with a slightly lighter blue tone on it if you can. The hair and makup are fine, I dont see a reason to change either or in their current state.

Man I wish I had your talent.

[Galaxia]

Think you could make Shiva's hair abit diffrent instead of devil fork style? lol

[Mauddib]

WOW! i'm very impresssed. :) Last 2 weeks i've been interested in lvling summoner and this makes me want to drop almost everything and lvl to 20 asap! :( but then i don't have the skins.

Good work! can't wait until these are available!

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[Amadaun]

I think Carby is done^^ I'll package him up and send him out in the next day or so.

[Selenity]

So how's shiva coming along? Any updates on her?

[Amadaun]

I tried something odd with Shiva...I tried to make her legs and hands look like cracked ice. It looks a lot better in game than in the Model Viewer. Almost got eaten in Uga-whatchamacallit Range trying to take pictures so I'd have an idea of how to do the ice.

/sigh The things I do for art.

Do I like it? {I don't know.} Opinons, {Yes, please.}

[Selenity]

I like how she's coming along though she could use a little more detail - but that's probably because of the screenshot lol.

My bf said she looked cool. ^^

[Hyrist]

The cracked ice look looks good!

I still say the body needs a bit of detailing, and perhaps a bit on the cloth as well, but if you releaced it the way it is now I would still love it.

[Amadaun]

Carby is now downloadable on Phabin's site.^^ Go get him! Shoo, shoo! He's my favorite, so far!

[silentsteel]

*likes shiva but would rather have one with clothes >.>;*

[Halion]

I really like the shiva as well, but my favorite shiva is FFX, I think she looks weird without clothes ;;
Super job on all these really, can't wait to have a full set~

[Monet]

You guys are WAY too conservative...

Why in hell would an avatar need clothing?! They are mythical, magical creatures [not to mention a video game] and are one of a kind; hence the ability to summon them at will. Technically, they have no ability to reproduce, therefore have no genitalia, so what are you wanting to cover up?! The MILD resemblance to humans that several avatars have has nothing to do with *gasp* "Private Parts".

[Hyrist]

Its not the conservative part of me that matters Monet, its the fact that it looks a bit bland thats all. Avatars in the history of FF one way or another were dynamic. To be honest I dont care weither or not it has genetailia. (But I would hate to be the taru stuck under Titan in THAT situation) I just wanted a bit more detailing.

[Nicolette]

I concur. While not necessary clothes on shiva (minimal of course) would enhance her I think, whearas clothes on ifrit would just be silly.

[Ryadbraman]

The resemblence to humanoids would most likely be a way for them to appear more interactive to humanoids. (That is, we associate better with other beings like ourselves.) There's no genitalia, I know. But if only genitalia was sexually stimulating, then life would be pretty boring. of course there's something to cover up, Monet. If you can't see the big honking melons on Shiva, then you may not have a thing for women. However, I'm not saying this to mean they should be covered up, just disproving Monet's claim that genitalia is necessary before a humanoid is considered suggestive or perverted.

As far as the new skin goes, I don't particularly care for it in its current state. Don't really like the ice gloves either. I'd say simplify it a bit... go back to basic colors and designs, add a little bit of detail and variance to that to set it apart from the original, then see what people think. If you want to try ice gloves then, have 2 images, one with your reskin and one with reskin + ice gloves. I don't think a compressed in-game image is gonna cut it. :P

[Monet]

Ryad:

Regardless of Shiva's "Big Honking Melons", as you so eloquently put it, if you find mythological cartoon characters so "Sexually Stimulating" that you need to play dress up with them because you're afraid of your reactions once you quit typing, then by all means carry on.

As for liking women, Mr. Insinuation, had I a thing for women, I wouldn't have the 3 wonderful kids that I do. Don't base your judgement of my character and persona on the loose belief that all "girls" are uptight and shy. I, personally, don't find Shiva attractive, either as a human or a cartoon. Therefore, I don't feel the need to put clothes on her to hide my shame.

Does that make my position clearer?



Amaduan:

Avatars are looking great. Now, speed it up so's we can have 'em! lmao =P

[Nicolette]

I personally <3 the ice gloves/ boots.

[Macht]

Ryad, body apperance better not be the sole thing that sexually stimulates you. In truth that myth is all based around the culture, a nudist colony proves this. They aren't in some orgy fest or anything, they do all the normal daily stuff just as a clothed person would. Anyone going to a nudist colony for the intent of just oogling would get kicked out of there very fast. You can also find this same of many tribes in different areas of the world.

Many sexually stimulating things that are precieved is a result of the culture and their actions. Also keep in mind that the animorphic Summons for the breast region also excludes anything that is more identified as sexually appealing by many cultures such as the nipples. In essense the only ones that would see that image as sexually appealing are people of a culture influencing that behavior.

[Selenity]

I love how shiva looks now - just wish the gloves weren't quit as fuzzy as the picture seems to show - however I do wish she could add an alpha channel to the arm-things to make them look a bit tattered - ice doesn't have to have perfect arm clothes <.<

[Mauddib]

I love all the other ones you've showed us so far... and can't wait to see the finished product of Shiva. I Honestly like the idea, but wanna see a better picture. Its really hard to see what she looks like from the screencap shown above. if your having problems trying to host a full size, undistorted picture on a website. www.photodump.com does it pretty easily. just a thought. >:D i wanna see a detailed Picture!

As far as the whole cloths debate does... Maybe i'm a pervert :P but i like the no cloths on her. i think if we focused the attention and detailed on her Icy Arms/legs as he's been doing, it'll look awesome. I don't see how putting as Nicolette put it, "Minimal" Clothing on her is going to enhance her. I'd say focus on the arms legs and color scheme and make her shine!

and HURRY UP! i wanna get these reskins. your doing an awesome job and can't wait for them all!

[Ryadbraman]

Ryad, body apperance better not be the sole thing that sexually stimulates you. In truth that myth is all based around the culture, a nudist colony proves this. They aren't in some orgy fest or anything, they do all the normal daily stuff just as a clothed person would. Anyone going to a nudist colony for the intent of just oogling would get kicked out of there very fast. You can also find this same of many tribes in different areas of the world.

Many sexually stimulating things that are precieved is a result of the culture and their actions. Also keep in mind that the animorphic Summons for the breast region also excludes anything that is more identified as sexually appealing by many cultures such as the nipples. In essense the only ones that would see that image as sexually appealing are people of a culture influencing that behavior.

Do you live in a nudist colony? I've always wondered... do they get dressed to turn each other on? Oh, you don't live in a nudist colony... ok, so your point is that although certain cultures exist that do not glorify breasts as funbags, you're not part of one. Ok. That helps... really.

Look, I'm not saying there aren't many ways to be turned on, whether physically, emotionally, flatulently... whatever. All I'm saying is that genitalia is not the only physical sexual attribute of a humanoid character, or else we'd all be running around in Vana'diel exposed. Let's try to keep our perspective instead of trying to be Internet Forum Hero.

[Halion]

As far as the whole cloths debate does... Maybe i'm a pervert :P but i like the no cloths on her. i think if we focused the attention and detailed on her Icy Arms/legs as he's been doing, it'll look awesome. I don't see how putting as Nicolette put it, "Minimal" Clothing on her is going to enhance her. I'd say focus on the arms legs and color scheme and make her shine!


I can't speak for everyone, but a plain cloth dress/skirt whatever wouldn't really enhance her. What would is the way her clothes have looked in past FFs.
Sorry it's hard to find a good pic, but:
http://www.ff-rpg.com/FFX_Aeon_Shiva.jpg
http://www.squareuniverse.net/ff10/images/shiva3.jpeg
This is what I envision shiva as personally, and if you were to go the "naked route" I would still want it kept to classic FF style as it already is. (For non FF buffs the current shiva model is based most directly on FF8's shiva http://www.squareultima.com/ff8/shiva-body.jpg )

[Selenity]

That's the Fish-y Shiva - I liked that one personally alot.

[Mellowy]

FF8's shiva was my favorite. More so because of the animation than her looks though.

[Amalthea8100]

I have a question re: NVIDA utilities mentioned above... I use an ATI card. Will installing those untilities conflict with it, since they seem to be written for a different brand?


Also, what is the "automatic" way to back up your textures so that you can't mess up your game? I've heard awful things about people having to totally reinstall after editing their .DATs.

Thanks ahead for the info. :)

[Ammera]

only reason you'd have to re-install is if you deleted a dat or renamed it and forgot to make another file of the same name. People that delete a .dat and re-install aren't very bright. All they need to do is either get the .dat from somebody else or copy another one and rename it to the missing .dat

I have an ATI card and I still use the Nvidia things, so you should be fine

[Amalthea8100]

Thanks! I installed them and they're fine. :) I have some other questions, but I think I'm done hijacking, so I'll make a new thread for them.