Smithing moneymakers

[mrrhypon]

Pls add your suggestion / your way to make money with blacksmithing in here.. Don't forget to add what lvl smithing it needs :o /doh

It depends on the server also so pls add that as well m..(. .)..m

I'm server lakschmi lvl 66 blacksmithing, leveling it toward lvl 75 for darksteel ingots desynth from antican pauldrons..

Haubergeon was good profit but with the price D ingot 5.6mil and haubergeon 4mil not anymore. That's in lakschmi.

[Taskmage]

I'm not a blacksmith, but I did a little research for you and this desynth seems like it would give you good results.

Smithing (19) Lightning Crystal + Goblin Helm
Result: Bronze Ingot
HQ #1: Iron Ingot
HQ #2: Steel Ingot
HQ #3: Steel Ingot

Prices in Jeuno as of two minutes ago:

Goblin Helm - 1k each
Lightning Cluster - 4k each

Bronze Ingot - 2k each or 15k stack
Iron Ingot - 4k each or 42k stack
Steel Ingot - 7k each or 70k stack

It's not on the order of millions, but it seems like it would generate a slow, steady profit in chunks of 20k-50k, which is what I'm used to as a cook. Also, if I'm not mistaken this desynth has an HQ4 of Gold Ingot. I know for sure I've seen someone making Gold Ingots from Goblin Helms in Port Jeuno, but I'm not 100% certain Lightning was the crystal used.

Hope that's helpful to you.

[dranix]

are you sure of those prices? sounds like too good of an investment

[nanatsu]

It's about like that on Asura too. Last I checked steel ingots were actually 10K each but I suspect the price may have lowered a little since then

[tdh]

Yeah, I'm a desynther as well. The only problem is that with desynthing, even if you're server levels ahead of the cap, you still have a high chance of failures. I buy Goblin Armor and Moblin Armor for 1-2k each, and I farm a ton of Thunder Elementals. I can get a Stack of Cotton thread with 3 synths at most. Cotton Thread sells for 20-25k a stack. So I usually do that to make gil. It's not tons of gil, but it's gil!

I was making Moblin Weave, which was 50k each, but it's dropped back down to 20k a piece. I think a lot of people don't realize that you can do these desynths, and make a lot of gil. Even with the high chance of failures.

[dranix]

so just thunder crystles or clusters?

[Susurrus]

Quadav Backplate: 1k
Thunder crystal: 300g?
Result 1: Bronze Ingot 1k
Result 2: Iron Ingot 5k
Result 3: Darksteel Ingot 35k

For my server at least.

The only problem is, farming Quadav Backplates sucks and there isn't many in the AH. Though I don't think the prices of them will go up any time soon, because it seems any time there is any in the AH, while they sell like hotcakes at 1k, if someone over charges, it never sells. I thank the Ragnarok Backplate buyers for not letting prices go up. =)

[nanatsu]

so just thunder crystles or clusters?

Just crystals. Break the clusters into crystals to use them.

[dranix]

how many crystals per cluster?

Double Post Edited:
what smithing lvl is necessary for desynth of all these items?

[Last_Viper]

1 cluster is the same like 1 stack, means 12 crystals
quadav backplate is leve 51 smithing desynthese

i would try this on lightningsday and maybe with moghancement desynth. + lightningpower

[dranix]

i dont have enough money to get to lvl 10 much less 51

[Caspian]

You're only lvl 15. I wouldnt worry too much about it right now. Theres plenty of ways of farming and such to fund crafting. Trying to pay for crafting and xp'ing at lvl 15 will probably only drive you crazy. You're not going to break this game in a few weeks. Best bet is to just slow down and take your time. Besides, its more fun if you stop and smell the roses once in a while.

I know they were mentioned, but on Fairy antican pauldrons sell for 2k apiece and either give 1 bronze ingot or 1 darksteel ingot. HQ success rate is usually somewhere b/w 1 in 3 and 1 in 4. You really have to either farm them yourself or camp the AH, since they sell w/in minutes of being put up for sale.
Oh, stacks of bronze ingots sell for 15-20k and darksteel ingots sell individually for 35-40k and stacked for around 400k.

[dranix]

ya but i dont have any money to exp with either i just think things would be a whole lot easyer if i had a little gil

[Enialas]

ya but i dont have any money to exp with either i just think things would be a whole lot easyer if i had a little gil

pick another job 5-9 and raid Ghelsba Outpost for Fire Crystals and they sell 4-5k on my server or raid Saruburata(sp) and slaughter the crawlers for silk thread, 1 stack of 12 sells for ~20k. you can definately fund War to 30 and beyond, including mithkabobs doing that. then once you've gotten more established, then start crafting. you'll have some extra funds by then, that if you loose a synth, you won't go psyco for loosing all your gil on 1 synth.

I don't know much about smithing myself, but wind crys + 2 flint stones (goldsmithing), fire + copperx4(smithing?) or fire + copperx3 + tinx1(goldsmithing?), fire + beastcoinx4 (smithing)

the first ones you get for killing worms, beastcoins from beastmen (steal is best), kill appropriate creatures for crystals, you start working on your skills with almost 0 gil expenditure and can bring in quite a bit of gil, especially for starting out.

for a little pay, insane markup > wind + chocobofeather x2 (7gil ea)> 6 fletchings, do it 2x and sell stack in sandy for 1.5k gil. well, that works for valefor ;)

[dranix]

wow that was really confusing i guess im just gonna keep farming lol

[countbulb]

If you're just getting started, solo your thief all the way to 15 in ghelsba OP and turn all the fire crystals into bronze ingots. They're Smithing lv2 cap, so you shouldn't have too many breaks.

Recipe is: 3 copper ore + 1 tin ore + fire crystal

And don't worry too much about crafting. You have to either be very very patient or have tons of gil to burn. Either way I wouldn't suggest smithing if you don't have about 200,000 gil to start with =p

edit: the thief part is optional. But you will need to solo your thief to 15 anyhow, so might as well do it there lvls 7-15 & get tons of fire crystals in return :thumbsup:

[nanatsu]

Smithing was a big pain for me. I just took my time and leveled it up slowly as a side hobby x_x I agree you should start slow with something like ALchemy or Cooking, as consumable are a lot more easily bought that armor pieces, weapons, and other equipment. But you need a pretttttyyyy big nest egg to do what you have to do for smithing and goldsmithing. Trust me. I've dumped a few mil in goldsmithing and I'm at lvl 52. I've heard from smithers that it's really not all that different from smithing.

[countbulb]

True that. Smithing is more or less like Goldsmithing - just a little bit less expensive. At least it was last year. I haven't continued my smithing, so I wouldn't know how the conditions are like nowadays. I know leathercraft can be cheaper than Smithing though, if you farm your own materials. Most leathercrafting materials are easier to farm than Smithing materials. (past the Iron phase).

[Sharpedo]

Does anyone maibe know what you can cast the best for Smithing lvl 23?
i'm already farming my own Ore and all (sometimes even getting a heavenly Darksteel Ore)
see i'm trying to level up my Smithing though its not going all that great
i already know how to keep a steady balance in my gil when working on this craft
so please can anyone put a small list of what is best to create for fast level up?
thx for your time:thumbsup:

[Jei]

some sad facts in Titan. There is 1 galka monk, name Warrior, LS less and always /anon. We all think he's a gilseller.... he farms antican paldron in eastern althepa desert NON STOP FOR 6 MONTHS now.

And guess what, last night my PT was there... I saw him wearing smithing APRON omgwtfbbqlolkkbyethxxxxxx

[ibroyles]

Yeah that guy is relentless, its really pissing a couple my friends off that like to desynth pauldrons.

[countbulb]

For fast lvl? I'd say Iron Scales. They sell for 40k a stack in Shiva, so it's not that huge a loss. You can always sell 1/3 of your sheets to break even. But then again, Iron Sheets don't sell that fast. But since you farm your own ores, then I suppose you can break even by selling scales alone.

Just remember not to take my words as is =p
Do some price checks at your local AH to make sure the prices are fine. I've lost about 100k making the mistake of crafting without checking AH prices. XD

[Sharpedo]

wel the farming and synthing go + - good now
though there is a other problem that i got more Iron Scales in AH now then that people buy lol
(so wanne level up to make some nice gil in stead of breaking even)
i also checked the AH all around and wel the highest price isn't Jeuno for this but Bastok
with the leading 45k pro stack of them, Sandy goes for 30k
so for the moment even though i am farming the ore myself and all i do keep making some loss in my gil

anyone maibe know where i can hunt Fire Elements as a lvl 50 WHM?
i so hate to switch to lower level job and kill Orc in Ghelsba you know

for the Wind Crystals i already spend a nice time in Theine since i know all the spawn points and the drops of Clusters are nice from time to time
wel if you know a place where i can farm the fire clusters in a safe way(cough.. there is no safe way lol) then please let me know

[countbulb]

Unfortunately, learning Smithing and making significant amount of gil does not go hand in hand, as far as I know. I suggest you look elsewhere to make gil before you've burnt too much XD
From my experience, you're doing pretty well if you can break even or have minimal loss.

As for Fire Elementals, they are quite hard to find; mostly thanks to the rare occassion of fire weather. Hence, the regularly higher price compared to water, earth, wind, ice and lightning.

[Sharpedo]

i think people call this luck, but in a days mining crafting, crystal buying and all
i still seem to have make a amazing 260k profit as a lvl 28 smith
i think i found a backdoor in having to skill up + mining + gil making
with the current skill level i even pull of a few nice HQ's witch makes my day all the better

[ibroyles]

Definitely if you're into mining you will make some profits. This slows down as you get higher level though with the rarity of ores. I have a friend who is currently 86 smithing I believe who has funded himself mostly through mining -> synthing -> then the profits received dump into power leveling when he can. The point this slows down though is when you must farm Adaman/Darksteel ores as those are significantly rarer than iron. You may also hit a small road block when you have to deal with Steel. Best thing I can say is if you enjoy mining you will be able to supplement your smithing quite nicely with it, especially since you have WHM leveled(prereq. basically for mining Ifrits). Have fun and good luck!

[Lunaryn]

Okay, Bronze Ingots have been mentioned in desynths, but it should be stressed that you can synth them easily with Fire Crystals. You have two relatively simple options for this.

Level 2 smithing: Fire synth, 4x Beastcoin
Don't bother with this unless you're a Thief. You can steal these from low-level beastmen, but otherwise they're rare.

Level 3 smithing: Fire synth, 3x Copper Ore, 1x Tin Ore
You can mine for ores, but when it comes to simple stuff like this, I just camp the guild NPCs. :P At the Bastok Blacksmith Guild, Copper Ore is usually 9 gil and Tin Ore is usually 30 gil. They become more expensive at times, particularly on Windday, Iceday, and Lightningday, iirc, but still manageable. If you're doing these in bulk, you'll probably end up buying stacks of Fire Crystals. I have a San d'Orian char buy them, but even if you buy them in Bastok, a stack of Fire Crystals is around 60% of the cost of a stack of Bronze Ingots, so you can turn a profit without much difficulty.

Also worth mentioning: Copper Ingot
Level 3 goldsmithing: Fire synth, 4x Copper Ore
Marginally cheaper to make than Bronze Ingot and sells better (usually). On Midgardsormr at the moment things have swung in Bronze's favor a bit, as Bronze is selling at 15k and faster than Copper at 17-18k. Normally in my experience Bronze goes for about 12k a stack and Copper for 20k.

Also, raising Smithing to start with isn't that expensive. I funded my first 10 levels of smithing by selling Bronze Ingots. Meant at times that I had to make 2 stacks of ingots to sell before I could make 1 stack as skillup material, and then another 2 stacks to sell before actually skilling on it, but it still wasn't too bad. Do take advantage of some of the wind synths for skillup, wind crystals are a lot cheaper than fire if you have to buy.

[Kiros]

l0000l, what i always just did was Fishing, since i never had that great of sucess with smithing or black smithing. i just use the money to buy upgraded armor from friends or the auction house, in my opinion you'll spend more money getting items and skill + ups then you would if you just bought it ><;;;;;;

[Sharpedo]

I can say is if you enjoy mining you will be able to supplement your smithing quite nicely with it, especially since you have WHM leveled(prereq. basically for mining Ifrits). Have fun and good luck!

what do you mean with mining Ifrits?:huh:
please provide some information about that please, i'l try anything new for my WHM
i'm already killing Banshee and Ghosts also in Gusgen Mines just for the fun of it lol
and yes GS are camping all the mining spots there, i could try Oldtown or something witch zones to Gusgen, though i do not know any of the mining spots or how to beat up a Moblin if i have to
they hit extremely hard (67-130 damage pro hit i get) and yes that is a lot, even though i do have some high DEF equipment on

also the price on all servers are a little diffrent, Fire Stacks go for about 8-9k a stack and Wind for about 7k a stack
can easely farm Wind Elementals and do some teleporting to get the gil i need to go on with smithing:thumbsup:

[ibroyles]

What I meant was mining Ifrit's Cauldron(a zone, you have to go through Yhoator Jungle to get there). It drops very good ores including iron, darksteel, adaman, and orichalcum. The problem is, even a LV75 player will still get agro there, so you MUST bring some way to stealth yourself. A good way to go is either at least 20WHM/10NIN(sneak at LV20, tonko at LV10) or 40NIN/20WHM. The reason you want NIN sub is that many of the mining points are right next to bombs, which agro magic. Tonko(nin's inivisible spell) does not agro them, but the Invisible spell from WHM will. Other than that you will also need sneak to get past various bats/raptors and other aggresive mobs. It can be a frustrating area to mine in, but after you get used to it very profitable as there is very little competition(no gil sellers there on my server, period).

BTW here's a good website for mining maps: http://www.hi-ho.ne.jp/gulif/ziq_topeng.html

[Susurrus]

I have yet to find any good profit for lvl 67 smithing (which is what I'm at). There IS the desynth, but they're not exactly reliable. The other thing I find is HQing items. Again, not reliable. It seems anything I make that doesn't HQ is a loss...

[Sharpedo]

why not make a lower level craft then that is still reliable witht he gil?
you maibe won't get as mutch gil for it but at least you got a secure and reliable craft
you can even call the HQ's a bonus :-)

[BlacKTaker]

I find that baghnakhs are a good synth at lvl 23. They were selling for around 5.5k each as of theis morning in allmost all ahs.
firecrystal+iron ingot+iron sheet

[Bahamut Kaiser]

Well for a low lvl crafter who wants to make a little bit of gil, just make ingots, you can buy materials from the guild for ultra cheap, and the ingots will go for more then the cyrstals, not an outstanding profit, but you just about double your money. Copper ingots, bronze ingots...... Well thats just as far as i got with ingots :P, but on my server they sell for 10-12 k a stack, and fire crystals are usually 5 k.

[Kutu]

Consumables is the way to make money for smithing.

Yes armour does sell, but you can only list 7items. Id rather make 7 stacks of ingots/sheets/ninja tools and sell them on.

Generally i mine for ore, or desynth for darksteel. Its unreliable yes, but its good money. Its just a matter of finding synths that sell.

Nearly all synths that you dont HQ will be a loss, Generally i look for level 30-40 synths and see what HQ stuff sells when i feel the need to make armour. But consumables is the main market. Now if only i can find someone wanting adaman sheets i could start skilling up again.

[Jei]

is the demand for ingot/sheet usually high? I'm taking up smithing right now and desynthing darksteel from paldron is one of the few money makers I can see. Do people use this a lot?

[Croissant]

I'm not sure if people do this alot, but the darksteel I get from mining usually sells pretty fast in Sandy.

[zipzap]

well i need some help with goblin mail/helmet for desynth. i know only the melee kind drop those but i need to find a zone that drops them more than like 3 in a hr. lol i know TH helps with more drop rates. but need a sure fire spot of the best zone to get them.

[Neo]

This is a great moneymaker, buy 12 iron ingots for 40k at ah, make into iron sheets and they sell for 60k, 20k fast!

[Jamibian]

regarding desynthing pauldrons to ds ingots i have a couple of thoughts. i always found that providing i farmed the pauldrons i would make a killing when desynthing them. yes it is time consuming but time = money in my eyes. im not prepared to risk 10-20k on a pauldron at AH when im trying to get as much money as possible to help funding further skilling. if you want to cut costs further there is the option to go farm lightning clusters in delkfutts or wherever you like to farm them.

I found that a few of the higher level smithers will take attempts at desynthing pauldrons but as usual desynthing is anything but predictable. everyone who desynths has their own method to desynthing day/direction/moon etc as do I.

As regards demand for iron, there is always demand for it (on my server anyway). it is a founding ingredient for many synths. hell, im using iron ingots to skill with kari arrowheads (caps at 79). sheets can be used to synth nodowa for skill or even made into scales which are used in a particular ninja tool synth. iron can be bought from craft guilds for 675g and once you hit some of the HQ tiers can be made into another ingot. obviously it is easily mined and in my earlier days i always found it good to mine in zeruhn for it.

Hope this helps! drop me a pm if you have any other questions. i may be able to answer!

Good luck!

[Wertyone]

some sad facts in Titan. There is 1 galka monk, name Warrior, LS less and always /anon. We all think he's a gilseller.... he farms antican paldron in eastern althepa desert NON STOP FOR 6 MONTHS now.

And guess what, last night my PT was there... I saw him wearing smithing APRON omgwtfbbqlolkkbyethxxxxxx

My clothcraft mule has been farming crawlers for silk inside the Maze for the last three months for an hour or two a day. I have people call me a gil seller all of the time, until I log on to my main and send them a tell.

[GereOfRemora]

Paktong ingots

cap 20

fire crystal ~500g
Kopparnickel ore ~1k
Zinc ore ~1k
Copper ore ~20g from vendor

total 2540 gil
sells for 10000 gil

Only part that is hard is the general scarcity of kopparnikel ore. It will be sold from a vendor if windy controlls movopolos (aka when hell freezes over).