I didn't see that this was posted, but the production for an xbox360 version of FFXI has begun. It was posted on IGN not too long ago.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/614/614498p1.html

Sweet,that means the game will still be alive.

Here's the link to the original Forbes article:
Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/technology/2005/05/16/cx_ah_0516xbox.html)

Not sure if I would upgrade to xBox360 version since I use the Japanese PS2 version. It would have to have a radical update such as voice. Not sure of feasibility and compatibility, but it would be cool to have a voice function in LS and PT. This could also be annoying as well:)

i just hope they will be smart enough to do a new PC version alongside with the xbox 360 one

I'd be impressed if they added voice *shudders at thought of being in lower jeuno*

Question though, I thought SE had a contract with Sony to only make console games for Sony. (allowing most handhelds and pc though)

no, SE refused to work on Xbox because microsoft always refused to have a shared online envirnonment with Sony consoles (basically cross-platform games) probably they took a step backwards with Xbox360 and Square agreed to develop for them

One part of me is going "OMFG YES YES YES!!" and another part of me shudders. I just pre-ordered my 360 yesterday and this is like icing on the cake but the more I think about it the more it makes me wonder. I have Live right now, ever use it? There are days I don't have problems but on some days and times I just want to strangle the little shites that are on it. Now they will join FFXI;...AND I'll have to listen to them!!? I don't know.....

Feh, another weight on the teeter totter that is my decision whether or not to get an Xbox 360.

Hopefully it will be reserved to linkshells only.

hmm i'd love to have a console running my FFXI 24 hours but don't want to buy Xbox... and Ps2 version is kinda hard to find now...

The thing I would like most to come out of this would be improved graphics. And possibly a more full-featured character creater :rolleyes:

I agree grandmom. It would be fun to play on it (i like the current xbox controller and the graphics will be sweet) but like you said there are some little bastards running around halo 2 that i feel certain will end up with ffxi. Though, kicking the crap outta the little shits in ballista then emote laughing is probably funnier than the currently accepted squatting over the dead body in Halo2.

don't worry, FFXI's grind naturally weeds out the majority of such kind of people

If this version is just like the PC and PS2 version tho, chances are some of the xbox live features won't apply, like voice. Because if it's like the PC version and PS2 version, and shares the servers with us. Then it's gonna have the limits to what the PC and PS2 versions can do. There is nothing one version can do, that the other can't besides graphical issues. I think the xbox360 version is just gonna be the console equivlate of the PC version. Same high res character models, and in high definition unlike the PS2 version, which is impressive, but often blurry, and not as pretty as PC.

Ill belive it when i see some official words from SE...

And if some how this does come to xbox most likly it will be xbox only, since pc and ps2 dont have voice chat...

i'm more interested in how will the montly fee be counted

FFXI will run along with XB live, but XB live multiplayer for XB360 is free, and there is a premium paid package with offer more things such as video chat.

does this mean premium XB live players only need to pay for 1 subscription for both FFXI and XB live???

they better allow us to transfer our current POL acct into a XB live account also.

No just like with pso they pay two bills...

I'm just wondering if it will be on the same server.

If it is, is it going to support voice chat? If so, are they going to implement it into the PC and PS2 versions as well?

Also, like said above, Xbox Live is full of 10 year olds. Halo 2...every time I play a random game, I always have several kids screaming obsanities (sp?) into the microphone.

If they do use the same servers, that would make it very hard to implement voice chat, as FFXI's servers are not designed for that sort of bandwidth load.
Even if they did the voice through Xbox Live, that would exclude everyone but them.
Finally, as has been noted, you would have to contain the voice chat somehow, everyone shouting in Jeuno would be crazy. I acctually set up a voice chat for my LS....and it got really crazy far too quickly. That's why I prefer to just type :biggrin:

its prolly not even going to go to xbox360...and if it does and has voice chat...it will be xbox only servers...

Edit: well now it looks like SE has confirmed it...well if there is voice chat in ffxi and all us ps2/pc users have to listin to it...SE will be getting a small bitch list from me...

I seriously doubt they will add voice chat to FFXI in itself, probably they will just allow you to create an external voice chat with your friends via xbox life, exactly like pc users can now do via teamspeak or similar programs.

My only real concern is if they will make a new PC version to match the xbox graphics (FFXI would really benefit from it, and it would be a very smart move), for the rest it simply shows that SE is still going to support FFXI for a long time, and this is VERY good news.

to people think they will be an FFXI-2, here is your proof otherwise. I was 'meh' on getting any new console, but now I am getting Xbox360. This was a marketing plan by both companies and it worked. Good job :P.

At its pre-E3 new conference, Microsoft confirmed three major milestones: Japanese RPG giant Square Enix will create role-playing games for Xbox 360, starting with Final Fantasy XI with full Xbox Live compatibility.

Sounds like voice chat to me. Nothing says you have to use voice chat but it would be nice to be able to use it without those little creeps on it. LOL

I wonder what Sony thinks about this...

Sony prolly isnt giving a shit right now...so many devs moved from x360 to ps3 when they saw what it can do...

Also I just watched a press thingy about x360 and it had an ffxi clip...its the same thing as the PC version...

But if it has voice chat...oh hell i hope its xbox only...if not this is the next thing youll be seeing in search comments..."Xb0x3six0 0nly LOLOLOLOL!!!111"

Where'd you see this video?

Originally posted by Rashin
But if it has voice chat...oh hell i hope its xbox only...if not this is the next thing youll be seeing in search comments..."Xb0x3six0 0nly LOLOLOLOL!!!111"

LOL! If I saw that I would not just refuse to invite them because they only want to pt w/ xbox players, but because it IS an Xbox player, and phrased like that would be even worse. Xbox version will be the new "n00b" stereotype anyway.

Originally posted by Rashin
Sony prolly isnt giving a shit right now...so many devs moved from x360 to ps3 when they saw what it can do... What can it do? I haven't been following any Xbox news can you give me some brief explanation? o_O Ps3 looking much better?

Fully compatible to me can mean it just... works.. you turn on and it can play. Not neseecary using every feature to it's limit heh

Originally posted by Jei
What can it do? I haven't been following any Xbox news can you give me some brief explanation? o_O Ps3 looking much better?

Fully compatible to me can mean it just... works.. you turn on and it can play. Not neseecary using every feature to it's limit heh

here jei

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Sony also confirmed the PlayStation 3, will use Blu-Ray discs as its media format. The discs can hold up to six times as much data as current-generation DVDs. It will also support CR-ROM, CDR+W, DVD, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD+R formats. It also confirmed the machine would be backwards compatible all the way to the original PlayStation.

Sony also laid out the technical specs of the device. The PlayStation 3 will feature the much-vaunted Cell processor, which will run at 3.2 Ghz and feature 2.18 teraflops of performance. It will sport 256mb XDR main RAM at 3.2 Ghz, have 256MB of GDDR VRAM at 700mhz, a detachable 2.5 inch HDD slot, six usb 2.0 ports, Memory Stick Duo, a SD slot, a compact flash memory slot, Compact flash slot, 2 hdmi outputs, 1 av multi out, 1 SPDIF optical output, and 1-gigabit Ethernet built in port

The PlayStation 3 will also sport some hefty multimedia features, such as video chat, internet access, digital photo viewing, digital audio and video. Sony Computer Entertainment head Ken Kutaragi introduced it as a "Super computer for computer entertainment."

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http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/images/sony_ps3_top.gif
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/images/sony_ps3_backside.gif

:eek:

and what can the new Xbox do?

i wonder if FFXI works with PS3.....

If xbox does get the voice chat thing I hope xbox users can hear each other only :sweat:. So the Playstation 2/possibly and hopefully Playstation 3 and PC players can play in peace. While we will have to play together with xbox players unless Square-Enix is going to add voice off in the filter menu.

There is really no way to bump the graphics or do anything to ffxi on xbox360 beyond what the pc does which we all know. Hacks etc.

Trying to split it more would effectively branch the software, and since ffxi is a mmorpg with constant updates, and expansions, it's just not feasible.

Voice chat is most likely going to be done via the xbox silver/gold personal page thing. (watch xbox conference if you don't understand) and would be competely independent of ffxi.

Actually I wonder if S-E will ban that so players must use POL instead...seeing that it's a double log in...


Now that the ps3 is unveil, and backward compatible to ps2/ps1. It should work with ps3, as unlike hard copy games, all compatiblity can be patched.

The biggest problem will be how S-E juggles installation. Sell a brand new PS3 DVD to install. OR reuse the HD as ps3 uses standard 2.5" slot. Finally the techical jogon is logging onto the network to be patched... ffxi dev team will have fun with that problem when that look at the ps3 dev kits.

This does not mean better graphics or voice chat, etc!

Once patched, it will run like a ps2, and then S-E will have to see if they should update(semi port ffxi) again to take advantage of ps3 hardware.

But if they do....*drool* ... save up for the 2HD tv idea, and have video chat, voice chat, movie, anything you can imagine(The ps3 model).

Yes folks, the ps3 should be able to do anything xbox360 live should do, except better -> 2 video outputs, wi-fi, blue tooth, usb2.0, etc...

PS3 is like a monster PC of the future more then a game console... only regret is the cost of it is not going to be $300 this time unless someone won the lottery at Sony.

Just saw the trailer for FFXI on xbox360. It doesn't look much improved at all. It basically looks identical to the PC version. I think the only reason SE is teaming up with MS for FFXI is to try reach out to the Xbox Live community.

Anyway, you can see the FFXI trailer here:
http://www.xbox.com/media/games/e32005/vid-e32005livewebcast-001-Hi.asx

This is the streaming video of the complete Xbox E3 2005 conference, the FFXI trailer is somewhere near the end of it, the last few minutes.

i may be wrong, butr the fact that FFXI will be on xbox360 doesn't mean there won't be one on PS3, actually it seems to me that SE is trying to cover as many platforms as possible, and this is sure a positive thing for the evolution of FFXI.
The game is far from dead as some of the WoW fanboys are trying to persuade the world, and this demonstrates it.

PS: here is something from SE's official press release, it should answer a couple of questions:
With the release of the Xbox 360 version, Square Enix will be expanding its cross-platform strategy, making FINAL FANTASY XI available to a much wider audience. Players will be able to choose their hardware and play on the same servers as existing gamers. The powerful next-generation capabilities of the Xbox 360 will provide a much more dynamic and visually impressive gateway to Vana'diel - the world of FINAL FANTASY XI

FFXI is doing giants steps towards being the definitive MMORPG.

It's relatively minor programing to make it up and running for PS3.

They problem is does S-E want to.

Who's going to buy it?

S-E can only appeal to ps2 upgraders, which sadly don't pay the $.

Also it was kinda tipped off (watch PS3 press conference)

That devlopers only got the ps3 kit for like 2 months. FFxi is still being juggled around. Should we fix it so it runs?, Should we port it? Should we resell it? etc.

Also another issue I realized is that I believe ffxi ps2 hd is 3.2" while the ps3 uses 2.5".

So how would you market ffxi for ps3?

"Well it looks a little better then ps2...oh sorry old users can't put in their HD"

BTW: Xbox360 is 2.5" HD also. So don't get your hopes up of reusing HDs.

Edit: On the other hand... S-E also has front mission online, as well as other possible online games for ps2. They can't miss the boat, so they might be force to update to ps3. They could market it as a package deal.

This is good news as it shows SE is determined to continue FFXI's growth and development. Im sure an updates PS3 version will be developed as well, especially if FFXI continues to be fairly popular.

On a side note, I noticed something lately about X-box. Remember when X-box was released in the states and Japan? Bill was out there front and center reaping the glory. Where is Bill with the 360? LOL This cracks me up. I guess since Bill = Microsoft and we know how many people feel about MS, Bill is staying out of the limelight trying to dilute that image. LOL

It will be interesting to see what Sony says about FFXI on the PS3. I hope there will be some type of announcement at E3.

If there will be a PS3 version, we won't hear about it till next year. At least that is my thoughts. Personally, I would rather hear what SE has planned for FFXI in addition to its port to 360. Maybe we will hear something considering FFXI is on SE's list of featured products.

Ok I just watched the entire 360 press conference. Of course, they left the best for last, SE. LOL The president of SE stood up there and talked about SE and the future with the 360. I would like to note 2 things he said. One he said that they would be bringing GAMES to the 360. ("So tonight, I'm very excited to be able to announce that SE will join with MS and X-box to bring our games to X-box 360 and X-box Live.") He did not say FFXI exclusively. I found that interesting. Also he said that they were looking forward to bringing the X-box Live community together with the PC community right before the FFXI announcement. There was no mention of PS at all. Now that could just be because this was a X-box conference but you would think he wouldn't have expressed exclusively PC but said something like "other users" to cover PS players also. VERY interesting.

Then at the end of his speech he said they had video to show that was playable on the 360. Now I was hoping for some more FFXI stuff but alas....no dice. But what they did show was VERY interesting. In my opinion, it looked like it could be from FF12! LOL He did say gameS were coming to the 360. LOL Wouldn't that be a kick in the pants!

http://www.square-enix.com/na/company/press/2005/05162005/
this is the link to the complete FFXI related SE press release.

If you don't like the streaming format posted above there's a downloadable version at http://www.1up.com/do/download?cId=3140612

Yes do NOT use the streaming version. Absolutely the poorest quality I've seen in a while. I started out with that and quickly shut it down and d/l'd a much better version.

Originally posted by Hyde
i'm more interested in how will the montly fee be counted

FFXI will run along with XB live, but XB live multiplayer for XB360 is free, and there is a premium paid package with offer more things such as video chat.

does this mean premium XB live players only need to pay for 1 subscription for both FFXI and XB live???

they better allow us to transfer our current POL acct into a XB live account also.

Actually it is free for all featues except online gaming. All the Premium thing is add Gaming to the list. That is what I heard.

Also this rocks. If I known this I would've just waited for the 360 version. Ok maybe I wouldn't have but it is still cool.

FFXI on Xbox360 is interesting~ however I'm not sure about the other FFs... It still looks like the other games in the series (specifically FFXII) will hit the PS3 first, or be even be exclusive (considering that the PS3 packs quite a bit more punch than the Xbox360).

Originally posted by Jei
What can it do? I haven't been following any Xbox news can you give me some brief explanation? o_O Ps3 looking much better?

Fully compatible to me can mean it just... works.. you turn on and it can play. Not neseecary using every feature to it's limit heh

Well it beats xbox360 by what is seeming like a huge leap (graphics and processing wise)

Devs have switched over from x360 to PS3 just to have that more power in their games...But i dont get why SE is being a dev for xbox...Why in the hell? Xbox has like...sports games...PS2 has RPGs...SE makes rpgs... Then the president guy was trying to say xbox360 will have some huge leap of gaming, saying it has what SE has always wanted to do with games...when its hardware is nothing on PS3 and PS3 is only coming out a few months after x360...

Im not good at buissness or anything...but i think i would stick to the console who is known for RPGs and also has the better hardware...

Originally posted by Rashin
Well it beats xbox360 by what is seeming like a huge leap (graphics and processing wise)

Devs have switched over from x360 to PS3 just to have that more power in their games...But i dont get why SE is being a dev for xbox...Why in the hell? Xbox has like...sports games...PS2 has RPGs...SE makes rpgs... Then the president guy was trying to say xbox360 will have some huge leap of gaming, saying it has what SE has always wanted to do with games...when its hardware is nothing on PS3 and PS3 is only coming out a few months after x360...

Im not good at buissness or anything...but i think i would stick to the console who is known for RPGs and also has the better hardware...

If you watch the PS3 presentation, Squaresoft shows off a trailer of FFXII running on the PS3, some parts are prerendered, but other parts show off in game graphics.

guessing Microsoft actually paid SE to put FFXI onto their console.

I hope they don't pull the old platform switcheroo like they did with Nintendo back in the day. I don't like the idea of SE exclusively making games for MS systems. Other than that, this seems like good news.

Why in the hell? Xbox has like...sports games

I am not sure if you noticed or not, but the three biggest console RPG releases in the last year and a half have been on X-box. KOTOR, Jade Empire, and Fable.

from what I can see..With these Graphics. I will have to upgrade my computer..yet again wich I just did 2 months ago. So I will be playing the xbox360 version.

Originally posted by Manatra
If you watch the PS3 presentation, Squaresoft shows off a trailer of FFXII running on the PS3, some parts are prerendered, but other parts show off in game graphics. Actually FFXII is a PS2 game. Not a PS3 game.

Originally posted by Rashin
But i dont get why SE is being a dev for xbox...Why in the hell?

$$$

Besides the actual players that's converting from PS2 to xbox 360, will we have an influx of newbies again??? o O. LOL I can't wait. It'd be really funny though to see on people's search messages *Xbox 360 Only*. LOLOL, not like we haven't seen enough JPN ONRY!!!

JP

Originally posted by Blood Red Poet
I am not sure if you noticed or not, but the three biggest console RPG releases in the last year and a half have been on X-box. KOTOR, Jade Empire, and Fable.

2 of those are also on/going to pc...and chances say jade will go on PC also...

Also fable and and KOTOR where over hyped...does anyone talk about them anymore? morrowind>>>>>fable

Originally posted by JP_Ikari
Besides the actual players that's converting from PS2 to xbox 360, will we have an influx of newbies again??? o O. LOL I can't wait. It'd be really funny though to see on people's search messages *Xbox 360 Only*. LOLOL, not like we haven't seen enough JPN ONRY!!!

JP

They would only say that if xbox gets voice chat...doesnt matter...do you think ffxi will really sell well on 360? xblive on top of another mothly bill...needing to get a keyboard...not having a game thats action 100% of the time...cmon pc and ps2 players are used to games with a story...xbox is just games with stuff constanly going on...they are two completly diffrent auidinces(spbluhblubluh)...

Bleh, screw ffxi being on x360... what they need to do is get True Fantasy Live Online back. I was so mad when that game decided not to be relased. It would have been xbox's first mmo to. I think they need to make that Final Fantasy before FFXI on Xbox Live.

Overhyped, but very successful, and people do still talk about KOTOR. MW was good, was that Xbox only? If it was, I am surprised I forgot that one.

Originally posted by Blood Red Poet
Overhyped, but very successful, and people do still talk about KOTOR. MW was good, was that Xbox only? If it was, I am surprised I forgot that one.

No it was on PC first...hmm the people at my school who where in love with KOTOR just said the second one sucked...i never played it though...

'suck' is a strong word... KOTOR1 was a lot better though. What could you expect from a Star Wars sequal? :P

Like i said...i havent played it...it looked alright...

Anyways gamespot is gonna serously piss of 360 people wanting ffxi for 360...they have a tech demo movie of something SE made that looks like a FF and they are saying its FFXI where anyone whos played ffxi clearly sees that area is not in ffxi...

i saw that

but when u think about it, FFXI is probably the biggest money maker for SE atm

$13 x 500,000 accounts = 6.5m USD a month. i think think their server cost more then 500k USD to maintain.

i would'nt be suprise if they announce a port to revolution in the future.

XBLive silver gets online multiplayer, voice chat, marketplace

XBLive Gold (paid one) gets video chat, and tornaments (with cash prizes)

lemme guess...xblive gold is 200 bucks a year?

Wow imagine them with video chat in ffxi...oh god MS would be responsable for single handingly DESTROYING FFXI...

What the hell would you need video chat for? This is a game billy...not a buisness meeting...

Originally posted by Kafeen
Actually FFXII is a PS2 game. Not a PS3 game.

Well given that they showed FFXII at a PS3 conference, and there were parts shown that were in game that were well beyond what the PS2 could do as well as parts that were prerendered CG. I would say that FFXII is now a PS3 game.

As for the "demo" of FFXI that was shown for the Xbox360, it's just a tech demo. It does not look like any portion of the FFXI world, it's just their mock up of what they could do with the Xbox360 and not necassarily the final results.

Lol, looks like good news can draw the usual useless doomsayers like a flame draws a butterfly...

Originally posted by Abriael
Lol, looks like good news can draw the usual useless doomsayers like a flame draws a butterfly...

Dude...its like taking a cut scene from FFX and having gamespot say it ff7s normal gameplay...

one thing i have to say:
XBOX 360's success in Japan rests in Square's hands. i think that square can get there way with many aspects of FFXI.

S-E With Mircosoft......... That just doesent sound right.

Why would any ps2 ffxi convert to xbox360?

They just bump graphics. That's the most they can do.

Also shelling out another $99 for a HD combo is not tempting.

Heck most people would just get a pirated copy of ffxi PC if they feel the need for better ffxi graphics.

S-E gave ffxi to xbox360 for 1 reason: More newcomers. They're playing to the xbox live comunity.

And S-E probably won't give up their POL. It's going to be a double login[ live->pol] xbox360 live is going to be head bashing to S-E and MS, when they try to break each other's community.
M$:" make it so live can chat with POL"
S-E: "We'll think about it, but it's not benifical or fair to non 360 customers"
M$: "Then we'll just ban live from ffxi"

Kinda like how Sony and S-E stare each other in down when sony went delayed HD and then PStwo slim.

why still call it FFXI? if they make a 360 version, it should have a new name because FFXI just sounds, and is, another game in the neverending series. They Should call FFXI just FFOnline. XI makes it sound like it's just gonna die out one day.

And people, you should look at True Fantasy Live Online:thumbsup:

Originally posted by Manatra
Well given that they showed FFXII at a PS3 conference, and there were parts shown that were in game that were well beyond what the PS2 could do as well as parts that were prerendered CG. I would say that FFXII is now a PS3 game.

As for the "demo" of FFXI that was shown for the Xbox360, it's just a tech demo. It does not look like any portion of the FFXI world, it's just their mock up of what they could do with the Xbox360 and not necassarily the final results.

u make no point

the so call FFXI "demo" you downloaded was a wrong video showing the wrong scene. the FFXI demo looked the same as the PC version.

just becuz they showed a scene from FF12 on PS3 doesnt mean the game is on PS3.

Originally posted by Rashin
Like i said...i havent played it...it looked alright...

Anyways gamespot is gonna serously piss of 360 people wanting ffxi for 360...they have a tech demo movie of something SE made that looks like a FF and they are saying its FFXI where anyone whos played ffxi clearly sees that area is not in ffxi...


The demo shown after the prez of SE's speech was not touted as FFXI. It was a demo of the capabilities of the 360. Totally unrelated to FFXI in any way. But it did look like an FF style demo. So possibly porting FFXII to 360? Or a new FF game entirely? I think they still have more surprises coming. MS is RABID for some good rpgs for the Box, especially in Japan.

True Fantasy Live Online

Was scrapped by Microsoft. And in late beta too.

No one really admits the reason, but it was probably so bandwith intensive, M$ didn't want to fork the cost. That or a $20 a month fee wasn't good PR.
TFO, was way too customizable, and feature rich. There's only so much you can shove over the american lackluster broadband.

Originally posted by kuu
Was scrapped by Microsoft. And in late beta too.

No one really admits the reason, but it was probably so bandwith intensive, M$ didn't want to fork the cost. That or a $20 a month fee wasn't good PR.
TFO, was way too customizable, and feature rich. There's only so much you can shove over the american lackluster broadband.

But to make a full game and just cancel it not only in NA but in Japan also? thats retarded. Well there are stoires that it may still come back but who knows..Looked really fun:(

Originally posted by TheGrandMom
The demo shown after the prez of SE's speech was not touted as FFXI. It was a demo of the capabilities of the 360. Totally unrelated to FFXI in any way. But it did look like an FF style demo. So possibly porting FFXII to 360? Or a new FF game entirely? I think they still have more surprises coming. MS is RABID for some good rpgs for the Box, especially in Japan.

Yes i know its not ffxi... Thats not stoping gamespot for saying it is...

Well it can be a movie or a demo. but if it's featuring FFXI then they can call it FFXI I suppose. Just like showing the curscenes, it's not the game play footage but still considered part of the game heh.

Well I saw E305 Live on G4 today and I think the Ps3 had better graphics then the Xbox 360, the new Xbox's graphics kind of look the same. But they showd a demo of the FFVII remake for the Ps3, its going to be the first FF for the Ps3. They also said nothing about SE games for the Xbox 360.

Originally posted by Hyde
u make no point
the so call FFXI "demo" you downloaded was a wrong video showing the wrong scene. the FFXI demo looked the same as the PC version.

I'm referring to the scene in which SEs President talks about FFXI and shows off a technical demo (which is in no way related to FFXI, it's just a technical demo of what they COULD do with the Xbox360). If there's another spot where they show off FFXI feel free to give the time that it starts in the direct feed video.



just becuz they showed a scene from FF12 on PS3 doesnt mean the game is on PS3.

You just completely contradicted yourself here. Bzzzt wrong, FFXII is 99% likely going to be on the PS3 (and perhaps other systems). It was a press conference for the PS3... NOT the PS2.

As for the FFVII thing, I doubt they've actually done anything on 'remaking' it outside of that tech demo. It is probably just like the FF8 dance sequence SE showed off at the unveiling of the PS2, which is, just a tech demo. If *anything* the FFVII tech demo is there just to test the waters and see the reaction to it so Square can find out if it's actually worth while to develop an FFVII remake.

But, what if it isn't? what if it really is? also we may never know. The only ones that know are SE and Microsoft.

TFLO could come back according to Level 5 studios:

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/577/577269p1.html

If anyone cares besides me. >>;;

i just watch the 360 version trailer on ign and those graphics are a huge improvement over pc. the avatar animations look smooth, and many of the effects have more of a 3d effect than the flat waves of energy in such that are currently in game.
what square needs to do is plan an expansion to be release either at XBOX 360 release or at the PS3 release, that could upgrade the graphics to the next-gen console standards.
As in EQ, not everyone has to have the new graphics, and they dont even have to have new mob or character skins, just as in EQ.

I just dont like the fact that on Xbox 360 you have a game score,avatar,friend list etc...all I want to do is play a game not do that crap. also grahics in the trailers might not be as good when it really comes out. Vision Grand Trismo (GT5), Tekkan 6, Killzone 2 (people are calling it the Halo killer). the first 2 could look like that but I doubt Killzone will have CGI all the time like it showed at E3.

Originally posted by FaLl3n
But they showd a demo of the FFVII remake for the Ps3, its going to be the first FF for the Ps3.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/614/614692p1.html

"There will not be a Final Fantasy VII remake for PS3. Repeat, there will not be a remake. But, there will be a new Final Fantasy game. We'll have info on that as it happens."

FFVII remake is NOT coming to the PS3....at least in the near future. I personally think somewhere down the road they will but they have obviously denied there is one once again or Ign wouldn't post such a comment.

Originally posted by Manatra

FFXII is 99% likely going to be on the PS3 (and perhaps other systems).

Good to know I'm not the only one thinking this might happen.

Originally posted by FaLl3n
...Killzone 2 (people are calling it the Halo killer). the first 2 could look like that but I doubt Killzone will have CGI all the time like it showed at E3.

The first Killzone was touted as a Halo killer and it fell far short. I beta'd it and while I enjoyed it for the most part, it fell short of what they wanted.

Then why did they show it at E3 maybe they thinking about it? Also I said Killzone2 not Killzone xD.

Yes I know what you said. Thats why I said that the first one was touted as a Halo killer and fell short. The point being they will have a long way to go. Sequels usually don't stray too far from the originals so I highly doubt the 2nd one will be a Halo killer either.

hmmmmmm Tyrien I tried look at the movie and it still looks just like the good ol FFXI we're playing... geomatries and the geographies seem to look a bit clearer but I think it's because of a better anti-aliasing. Effects are the same, same cutscenes too.

Originally posted by TheGrandMom
Yes I know what you said. Thats why I said that the first one was touted as a Halo killer and fell short. The point being they will have a long way to go. Sequels usually don't stray too far from the originals so I highly doubt the 2nd one will be a Halo killer either.

what about FFX and FFX-2? I liked X but not X-2..anyway we will see when it or if it comes out.

hmm... not to get off track too much, but 1hr 11min 40sec of that feed, isnt that a CoP cutscene from missions that haven't been released yet?:confused:

The graphics on 360 don't look *better* than the pc, just smoother. I'm sure if you could force AA in ffxi for the PC it'd look just as good. Right now the most you can do is run high res textures to smooth things out a bit.

I think moving ffxi onto ps3/xbox360 (possibly off ps2) would benefit the PC players a ton. PS2 is kind of the weakest link in the performace department causing the game to run slower so PS2 can keep up (like playing starcraft with 56kers, the whole game slows down to their speed). I love my ps2, but there's only so much a 5 year old system can do. Watching people kind of hover in the running position is pretty horrible, expecially when every other mmo I've played on PC moved at a halfway decent rate. The whole game just kind of runs in slowmo.

holy :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/748/748456/vids_1.html

see the 15mega video at the left /shocked

That "tech demo" is nothing more than a tech demo. The graphics for FFXI on the 360 won't look much better than the PC version. I doubt they would do a complete overhaul on the graphics, especially since the game isn't showing its age yet.

"much more dynamic and visually impressive gateway to Vana'diel"

That's what the official S-E press release states. I would wait before judging, since i wouldn't be surprised that they just shown an anti-aliased PC version at E3, to show a bit of the game, but the graphics engine is still under construction. It's definately too early to see the final result, since we're still several months from the release.
It FOR SURE won't match the graphics of the thech demo, but there's sure room for improvement, both on the 360 and on the PC.

SE is planning to extend FFXI's life to the maximum possible (will it break UOL's records? who knows, but it sure has the potential to do it), and to do this a graphics restyling will be in order sooner or later (Mythic did it with DAOC, while shouln't SE be able to do the same?), and the introduction of extremely high end content is a proof of it (relic weapons, maat cap and so forth). I think we should just wait and see.

Umm you can force your ffxi PC to do AA. I leave my on 2x, for a dated Graphics card.

But 4xAAQ is nice.

I'm sure if you want mock ups of what it can do, just look for screen shots of tweaked ffxi to max.

Lastly, S-E can theorically take it graphics up another level and not branch out to much By using more Dx calls. I'm sure xbox360 is using very simliar api sets as dx, it's M$ after all... Things like reflective lighting, shadow mapping, your favorite graphics word.

Originally posted by rwyan
That "tech demo" is nothing more than a tech demo. The graphics for FFXI on the 360 won't look much better than the PC version. I doubt they would do a complete overhaul on the graphics, especially since the game isn't showing its age yet. I think they need to really, if they release a 4 year ld game on the 360 they're going to get slated. There's already alot of other MMORPG's that look alot nicer than FFXI.

There's already alot of other MMORPG's that look alot nicer than FFXI.

Yet FFXI is still one of the top selling MMOs in history.

Either way, I don't really agree with Microsoft making such a big deal about FFXI on X360. What should be a deal is the fact that Square Enix will now be developing games, possibly future Final Fantasy titles, for the X360.

Final Fantasy XI, in my opinion, does not cater to the Xbox crowd. The last thing they need right now is further alienating their fanbase. VelocityGirl might even agree to that.

Originally posted by Pai Pai Master
Yet FFXI is still one of the top selling MMOs in history.

Either way, I don't really agree with Microsoft making such a big deal about FFXI on X360. What should be a deal is the fact that Square Enix will now be developing games, possibly future Final Fantasy titles, for the X360.

Final Fantasy XI, in my opinion, does not cater to the Xbox crowd. The last thing they need right now is further alienating their fanbase. VelocityGirl might even agree to that.

yeah I agree, alot of Xbox fans dont like FF that much. I also guess that you saw the E3 05 live show last night. sense you said VelocityGirl. Plus that would suck if they stopped making FF games for sony but for Microsoft.

Hey the Xbox is my console (I have all 3 current gen systems + a GBA + DS + N64 + SNES) that gets the most play. There are tons of people on the Xbox that like FF, well the older ones atleast.

Plus on the Gamefaqs board, they are usually posts on if the XBox will get a MMO. FFXI is that MMO but for the Xbox 360.

FFXI has incredible character detail, no one can touch that... and the characters, even the Galkas and Tarutarus, look like they could exist in real life, all porpotional. WoW looks like someone got a tydyed shirt and covered the world with it, which is pretty, but not as detailed as FFXI.

I really dont like the Xbox, and I dont think I will like Xbox 360 either. I dont know I just think its stupid to me, its hard to exsplain. I used to like Nintindo but they have gone down hill sense the game cube and DS came out. Nintindo allways keeps there mouth shut and then when it comes out its not that good. The DS is doing better in Japan then it is in america though, the PSP is beating it in America. I hope the "The Revolution" and the "Mini gameboy" turn things around for them. Plus at E3 like I said earlyer the graphics kind of have not changed that much from the Xbox. Even if the graphics on the Ps3 are pre-renderd it still look's cool to look at. If not then thats cool too, we wont know any of these things till they come out and we see them.

Originally posted by Pai Pai Master
Yet FFXI is still one of the top selling MMOs in history.

Either way, I don't really agree with Microsoft making such a big deal about FFXI on X360. What should be a deal is the fact that Square Enix will now be developing games, possibly future Final Fantasy titles, for the X360.

Final Fantasy XI, in my opinion, does not cater to the Xbox crowd. The last thing they need right now is further alienating their fanbase. VelocityGirl might even agree to that.

That's exactly what I was thinking when I read this post. Why does Microsoft have to fucking buy everything. We're all already running a damned copy of Windows and I don't want everything in my house to be labeled MICROSOFT. Even if MS didn't buy FFXI to use on XBox, that would mean S-E sold rights on it to MS which is even worse =( I'm afraid Final Fantasy XIII would end up coming out for X360.

Thats true that could happen but what if it came out for the Ps3 and Xbox 360? wich could work, I dont see why that could not happen. Also, Bill gates needs to think of his own ideas not buy a compony then make ideas out of that..I hate MS somtimes.

There are lots of older japanese titles going into GC and DS more than PSP tho. Mario and Zelda for example, they got tons of older generation fan base to begin with. The PSP games so far looks pretty flashy to me. There's MGS on PSP but all other games are mostly beautiful graphics without thinking kinda game. Even more extreme on the Xbox side.

I'm not buying an Xbox 360 until I find out if it will show FFXI in 1024x768. That's the only gripe I have about it being on the PS2, it'll only show up in 800x600, and it really looks crappy compared to PC.

Originally posted by FaLl3n
Thats true that could happen but what if it came out for the Ps3 and Xbox 360? wich could work, I dont see why that could not happen. Also, Bill gates needs to think of his own ideas not buy a compony then make ideas out of that..I hate MS somtimes.

Simple reason, Bill Gates wants XBox to be popular right? I bet my ass they offer S-E 9 million or some insane amount of money to buy rights for FFXIII for XBox ONLY. >,<

That is true but, If that does happen SE will lose alot of FF fans. Also, yes the Ps2 version of this game sucks...

Nintendo lost a lot of fans during the N64 era I think, and by the time GC came out, the damage had already been done.

The low quality of Ps2 looks pretty nice on normal TVs tho... the blurring and scanlines hide the edges and low res images pretty well imo.

What if Xbox can really produce higher res like 1024 or even 1600~ will normal TVs be able to display it?

N64 got awesome Zelda series on it. But a few good games weren't enough to compete playstation with *tons* of games to choose :(

Originally posted by Pai Pai Master


Either way, I don't really agree with Microsoft making such a big deal about FFXI on X360. What should be a deal is the fact that Square Enix will now be developing games, possibly future Final Fantasy titles, for the X360.

Final Fantasy XI, in my opinion, does not cater to the Xbox crowd. The last thing they need right now is further alienating their fanbase. VelocityGirl might even agree to that.

They are making a big deal because they have little to crow about in the RPG genre. So they are damn proud of this accquistion. Also it's a FF title and FF is beloved the world over. So it's another feather in their cap. This is especially good in Japan where RPG's are king and X-box is dirt.

FFXI fits nice and neatly in their online gaming plans. It appeals to the online gamers, it appeals to the rpg'ers, and it appeals to the older crowd too. So it fits rather nicely. They won't be alienating anyone. How could they be? All of the popular online original box titles will be playable and a whole slew of new ones are on the way, including an RPG! In fact, they'll be drawing even more people.

Something that always cracks me up is the MS = EVIL = X-box is EVIL. I can always tell the dedicated gamers from the casual ones by this. Dedicated gamers want all systems, drool over all systems, and sell their blood to get them! LOL X-box has proven its worth. It lasted through the naysayers and it actually prospered. A game system is meant for entertainment. If it doesn't entertain than people don't buy it. I've been around to see a lot of flops! LOL But X-box IS selling and people are enjoying it, so its completed its mission and is a success. Just for once I would love to hear the fanboys say "I might not like X-box but they succeeded when everyone said they would fail. Kudos to them!" But that will be a cold day in hell. LOL

And before anyone calls me a fanboy here is a piece of info for you. I have nearly all the systems ever released. Including my very first, a Coleco Pong system. I am a fanboy of none. I'm just a dedicated gamer.

First of all, I have all of the systems ever made. (even the old ones my parents had them) and I still dont like the Xbox maybe its because I'm more into RPG's then anything. Or maybe not maybe its because everone is obessed with HALO (cant stand that game its just another 1st person shooter what is so great about it?) I dont like Halo because it seems like a regular 1st person shooter to me. Anyway I doubt all of there will be that many people buying FFXI for the Xbox 360 almost all of the fans have it anyway. so why spend hundreds of dallors on a new consol just to play FFXI. Plus the Xbox did not have that many XBox only games for it in the first place. (Halo and Fable just to name a couple) But like I said before we will just have to see what the Xbox 360 will throw at us.

I consider myself a dedicated gamer too. But it doesn't mean I can't have my prefer style of game. For one, I am not a big fan of first person shooter which is a huge part of Xbox and second I enjoy japanese games more than any american games an japanese titles are pretty limited on Xbox. I mean, I don't choose the platform. I choose the game. ^^ . I have no interest in Xbox simply because I don't care to play most of the games it offers.

Up to this date, I have an Atari, NES, Super NES, gameboy, Megadrive, Segasaturn, Neo-geo catridge, Playstation 1 and 2, nintendo64, and a beta-test NES model sitting somewhere at my home in Thailand :biggrin: And I have no plan to add Xbox into my collection :p

Right now I'm waiting on DS, I want to know if there will be a Zelda and Fire emblem coming out on it or not. If either one of them will be released on DS at all i'll get it immediately :biggrin:

Oh, I also heard rumor that S-E finally continue their FF3 remake projects now after getting tons of requests from fans. It *might* come out on DS :biggrin:

Originally posted by Jei
I consider myself a dedicated gamer too. But it doesn't mean I can't have my prefer style of game. For one, I am not a big fan of first person shooter which is a huge part of Xbox and second I enjoy japanese games more than any american games an japanese titles are pretty limited on Xbox. I mean, I don't choose the platform. Don't know about you guys but I get the platform for the games I want to play ^^ not the way around. I have no interest in Xbox simply because I don't care to play most of the games it offers.

Up to this date, I have an Atari, NES, Super NES, gameboy, Megadrive, Segasaturn, Neo-geo catridge, Playstation 1 and 2, nintendo64, and a beta-test NES model sitting somewhere at my home in Thailand :biggrin: And I have no plan to add Xbox into my collection :p

Right now I'm waiting on DS, I want to know if there will be a Zelda and Fire emblem coming out on it or not. If either one of them will be released on DS at all i'll get it immediately :biggrin:

Oh, I also heard S-E finally continue their FF3 remake projects now after getting tons of requests from fans. I *might* come out of DS :biggrin:

Yeah I know what you mean, I have a Xbox but its not mine its my brothers all he plays is HALO I only play on thing on it and that is KOTOR1 and 2. Anyway those 2 things might come out for the "mini gamboy" that is coming out at the end of this year of the spring/fall of next year. I also thought FF3 "remake" was already out?

I dedicate all my time to RPGs(mainly this one). I don't have time to fool around on XBox a.k.a. release a new 1st person shooter every 2 days. I used to be a dedicated gamer, but that ended along with the days of SNES. I just don't have time to check out every new game that comes out nowadays, and even if I did, I doubt I'd like a lot of them. To me MS = XBOX = makes people sell out. Hell, I'd rather mess around with an old SNES emulator than ever touch a damned MS product. Maybe I'm just stubborn :p

FF3 (jp) remake project was cancelled sometime ago. It never released.

FF3 (jp) is the third NES FF title :D not the FF3(USA) which equals to FF6(JP) on SNES

Something that always cracks me up is the MS = EVIL = X-box is EVIL. I can always tell the dedicated gamers from the casual ones by this. Dedicated gamers want all systems, drool over all systems, and sell their blood to get them! LOL X-box has proven its worth. It lasted through the naysayers and it actually prospered. A game system is meant for entertainment. If it doesn't entertain than people don't buy it. I've been around to see a lot of flops! LOL But X-box IS selling and people are enjoying it, so its completed its mission and is a success. Just for once I would love to hear the fanboys say "I might not like X-box but they succeeded when everyone said they would fail. Kudos to them!" But that will be a cold day in hell. LOL

IIRC, the only region in the world where the Xbox is not ahead of the GC in sales is Japan.

This is my own casual observation which may or may not be accurate, but Japan seems to be one of the few countries where "American-style PC gaming" never really took root. Perhaps it's because Japan had its own indigenous electronic gaming industry (focused on consoles) - which, as far as I know, no other country has.

I know from talking to friends that the Japanese do play popular PC games like Counterstrike and Warcraft, but the influence these games have there seems trivial compared to say, the rest of Asia or Europe (and obviously North America).

You can say that with asians in general too. Thailand, Taiwan, Korean are the 3 countries I know for sure that prefer japanese games. However it's the Ps2 that dominates the industry tho not GC. Ps2 has lots of awesome japanese games that never release in the US.

In thailand Xbox players are close to none. No one likes US games there.

Being Korean myself, I'm not sure if Korea is like that.

PS2 is obviously ahead of Xbox there too, but there do exist "Xbox bangs" - basically PC game rooms with Xboxes instead of PCs - which were packed when I visited last year. PS2 versions also exist of course. I don't think GC is even sold in Korea, or at least I didn't see any.

PC gaming is also HUGE and really dwarfs the console gaming market over there - both imported western titles as well as domestic ones - AFAIK S.Korea is probably the largest producer of PC games outside of North America. There are "PC bangs" literally on every street corner, often times several in a single building.

Remember too - that many Japanese products - games included - were actually not allowed to be imported into S.Korea until fairly recently.

Just remember, when Squaresoft and Microsoft go off saying obscure things like:

much more dynamic and visually impressive gateway to Vana'diel

It's just marketting lingo and can actually mean anything (and most likely not what you're thinking it'll mean).

I honestly think the only graphical updates they'll really do is add a few more pixel shader effects, some higher res textures (which they probably already have sitting on their development computers, they don't make textures low res, they start off with high res versions then scale them down). And other nuances like that. Going beyond that like actually making the characters have higher polygon amounts, different animations, etc. would add a serious amount of workload to the development team (since two versions of everything would have to be done with each update).

As a note: Yes they do more than one version of each update, but 99% of it is just translating text and things.

MS learned a lot from xbox, but they are still inferior marketing as oppose to Sony and Nintendo.

Just look at their press conference, talking to industry watchers like they were teenagers. Circle presentation, cute girl, football star, even sits on the floor at one point... Yea I know E3 is going to be watched by core audience these days. But just talking the lingo doesn't mean people will get excited with so little content.

This is opposed to PS3 press conference loaded with numbers, tech demos and the leading figures with heavy accents. They could speak gibberish and still wow the crowd.

MS needs anything they can get, and probably catered to S-E for ffxi who probably made it very portable in the first place. ffxi was rumored to come to xbox as well before plans broke down.

Depends how you look at it. From another perspective, you could say they're trying to move away from the whole "Evil Empire" corporate image that Microsoft has long been associated with.

I've once heard that, quite ironically, that Microsoft is akin to the Apple Computer of the game console industry, and I can see the similarities.

Another article:

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/615/615184p1.html

Watch out, PS2 and PC owners! A bunch of new next generation console traffic is going to start invading your Final Fantasy XI game sessions! Xbox 360 is getting FFXI, and according to Japanese news source Mainichi Interactivs, the new version will allow for cross-platform play. This means players of the PC, PS2 and Xbox 360 versions will be able to play with one another.

Specifics on the Xbox 360 version of FFXI haven't been revealed as of this writing. Square Enix is promising to make full use of the system's power, but we suspect that with cross-platform play enabled, gameplay content will remain similar across all three systems.

Mainichi also reports that gamers will be able to use either Xbox Live or Square Enix's Play Online service to play Final Fantasy XI. How this will work out in terms of monthly charges for 360 owners is currently a mystery. Let's hope they don't get any discounts!

Hmm if this is true it debunks the double login myth. But SE letting them bypass POL?? I don't know if I buy this just yet.

hmm that means no "fresh-start" servers for Xbox players I guess :zzz: The same with the NA launch, we got pre-populated worlds.

But depending on the influx of new players, there could be new worlds formed. One thing we can definately count on is the forums being busy right before release. LOL

When these Xbox 360 players come in, could we try and mold them into decent people? I realize a large majority of them are Halo fanboys, but I'm sure with a little effort we can teach them proper behavior.

Originally posted by Ayakino
When these Xbox 360 players come in, could we try and mold them into decent people? I realize a large majority of them are Halo fanboys, but I'm sure with a little effort we can teach them proper behavior.

Haha! Funny! XD

I want you to define "Halo fanboy" ;)

I don't think I should have said Halo Fanboys, but I should have said "Halo players". Anyway, what I meant was:
1) constant mic spam
2) super short typing that can't be read.

I've experienced number 2 in Lineage II once. I partied with a guy who was too lazy to type somebody and he would type it as "smb". I was supposed to know what smb was at first? (o.o) If I offended anyone, especially mods, I'm sorry. I'll take the warning points if I have to.

I wouldn't believe S-E would let microsoft bypass POL either. POL is an important hub for S-E. Front mission online, Fantasy Earth, and who knows what mmorpg from the enix aquired side. They will all share community and drag players of one game to another game, while also getting new subscribers.

That's probably the same reason ffxi will be on ps3, unless S-E has a backdoor somewhere. Even if you don't make money for ffxi, you sell the medium.

Well...new players...are new players... the JPs will be like "more NA??" and we'll be, "Wee, more shouting".

When these Xbox 360 players come in, could we try and mold them into decent people? I realize a large majority of them are Halo fanboys, but I'm sure with a little effort we can teach them proper behavior.

The hardcoreness of FFXI is probably enough to weed most "undesirables" out. You'll have more idiocy in the Dunes/Quifim/etc. but I'll bet most of the bratty morons that seem so prevalent in WoW simply can't take the massive LFG times that become common at the mid/high levels.

It's probably safe to say that most of these players will pick melee DDs, so all the more.

Originally posted by Pounce
The hardcoreness of FFXI is probably enough to weed most "undesirables" out. You'll have more idiocy in the Dunes/Quifim/etc.


It's already like this, so there won't be much of a difference. A new intake of players and a new platform means just a longer time for the veterans to enjoy their hard earned characters, so i don't see why all the doomsaying... oh, wait, doomsayers are always around, unfortunately.
Can't kill them, laugh at them.

Originally posted by kuu
I wouldn't believe S-E would let microsoft bypass POL either. POL is an important hub for S-E. Front mission online, Fantasy Earth, and who knows what mmorpg from the enix aquired side. maybe S-E will release everything else for sony? w
"sayonara xbox 1 game is all you'll get {you can have it}"

I'd love to see DQ online :biggrin:

considering S-E cross-platform policy i REALLY doubt FFXI won't be developed for PS3 as well.

Originally posted by Pounce
The hardcoreness of FFXI is probably enough to weed most "undesirables" out. You'll have more idiocy in the Dunes/Quifim/etc. but I'll bet most of the bratty morons that seem so prevalent in WoW simply can't take the massive LFG times that become common at the mid/high levels.

It's probably safe to say that most of these players will pick melee DDs, so all the more.

The 'hardcoreness' (as you say it) still isn't enough to weed idiots out -.-;

I don't see why they wouldn't release FFXI for the ps3. I mean, 7,8,9,10,11 and 12(eventually) have all been realeased on a ps or ps2. Although, i must admit they probably would have released it at the launch of the console (1Q 2006), no news yet so fingers crossed.

Have you seen the new ps3 FFVII Demo:spin: !!!! It looks amazing!!!!! I don't see why they would do a demo on FFVII?? Past experience has shown that they usually realease the game as well. Even if it was the exact same game i would still buy it as it is a classic and did i not mention the graphics"""

idiot doesn't mean intolerant. :biggrin: or would you rather call it stubborn or persistant?

I find it funny that alot of people are saying Microsoft paid Square-Enix for it. Did you people forget the OLD president of Squaresoft before the merger is now the president of MICROSOFT JAPAN. So it already has good relations with Square. I bet they decided to wait for the 360 because the Xbox only has an 8 Gig HDD.

The 360 is already catering more to the Japanese people. What with 2 RPGS by Sakaguchi (he also decided to make games for the 360 because of the President), DOA4, and FFXI.

Also for the people that want a Japanese game for the Xbox get Phantom Dust. One of the best games I have played. Plus it is only $20.

Sakaguchi is making RPGs for Xbox too? woaw. What title? where can i read more about it? :eek: Mist company??

Originally posted by Jei
Sakaguchi is making RPGs for Xbox too? woaw. What title? where can i read more about it? :eek: Mist company??

Yeah with Mistcompany. Little is know about either of them. There is a trailer of one of them.

http://www.gamespot.com/x360/rpg/lostodyssey/media.html

Some info on them:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/19/news_6125870.html

N64 had a lot of good games actually, but very little third-party support. PS(and PS2 and X-box) on the other hand LIVES off third-party support. If FFVII was released on N64, instead of PS... the world would be a very different place.

very interesting thanks.

btw president of Square use to be Hisashi Suzuki right? I can't recall any news about him repositioning himself in Microsoft company. Do you have any links to info or news regarding this?

Sakaguchi: In a broad sense, yes. But to be accurate, I wanted to work, to do everything that I've imagined, in a world without any limits. I believe that the next-generation video game consoles will reach the boundaries to make that possible. While I was looking into making games for the next-generation consoles, I was contacted by Mr. Maruyama [Yoshihiro Maruyama, head of Xbox Japan), whom I worked with once before. I also used to make games with Kawai-san [Hiroshi Kawai, Microsoft Game Studios R and D chief in Japan], who's working at Microsoft Game Studios, still. We know each other's abilities, so I felt that it would be convenient [to make games with Microsoft]. So it's more like my personal connections led me to the next-generation Xbox rather than the hardware.

I got that from an interview. I can't find the old old news thing since it was afew years ago. Plus I think it was the president AFTER Suzuki. Who was not there for that long.

Quoted from here:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/02/25/news_6119216.html

Though, FFXII looks like it's going to be for the PS3, those scenes we saw during the preview has been shown almost every single time (if not from an actual movie, it's on a screen-cap). I think everyone is jumping on "FFXII is going to be on PS3" and yet we're forgetting that it's backwards compatible. So who knows.

JP

Originally posted by Teh Blind Guard
Yeah with Mistcompany. Little is know about either of them. There is a trailer of one of them.

http://www.gamespot.com/x360/rpg/lostodyssey/media.html

Some info on them:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/19/news_6125870.html

I thought the name of Sakaguchi's company was Mistwalker?? o O.

JP

Originally posted by JP_Ikari
I thought the name of Sakaguchi's company was Mistwalker?? o O.

JP

XD, My bad. It is Mistwalker.

yea. in the links they listed the right name
Publisher: MS Game Studios Developer: Mistwalker Genre: Role-Playing

Have you seen the new ps3 FFVII Demo !!!! It looks amazing!!!!! I don't see why they would do a demo on FFVII?? Past experience has shown that they usually realease the game as well. Even if it was the exact same game i would still buy it as it is a classic and did i not mention the graphics""

Square did a ff3, aka ff6 tech demo for N64, which at the time looked amazing too.

Never got off the ground. Though..square did drop 64 for ps1.

IIRC, development for FFVII for N64 actually started but was shelved midway through the project. I remember seeing screenshots of Cloud and Barrett and other FF7 characters in their N64 versions - which looked a lot more "cartoony" than their PS1 counterparts.

Yeah. The FFVII for N64 idea was discarded when they realized how much more data could be held on CDs as opposed to cartridges. That's when the "movie-like" Squaresoft games of today evolved from. Had Squaresoft evolved on N64 rather than on PS, it definitely would have changed(some say held back?) the ways RPGs were developed for years.

I don't see a huge platform shift on SE's part as likely, but honestly you never know. They have been shifty like that in the past..

Originally posted by Jei
FF3 (jp) remake project was cancelled sometime ago. It never released.

FF3 (jp) is the third NES FF title :D not the FF3(USA) which equals to FF6(JP) on SNES

Nope, check this out.

http://n-philes.com/index.php?Id=396

More on Final Fantasy for the DS
Posted by Jared at 01:11 EDT - 05/20/2005

Today in Tokyo, Nintendo released news on one of the more interesting rebirthed titles meeting gamers on the DS: Final Fantasy III. Shigeru Miyamoto met with Square Enix producer Akitoshi Kawazu to unveil and discuss the title after a teaser featuring the opening text of the original game.

Unlike most of the classic games that Nintendo has remade in the past few years, Final Fantasy III has never been released in America. It was originally released in Japan in 1990 for the Nintendo Famicom, the Japanese equivalent of the NES, but never made it outside Japan's shores. Now, however, the DS is positioned to bring back this gem of the 8-bit days in new form.

I meant it never been remake sorry :D I got the master cartridge of FF3 it's my all time favourite.

http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000177043935/

Exactly the same

The latest FFXI port was initially designed for the original Xbox, but complications involving PlayOnline and the Xbox Live services left the game dead in the water.

Now, an agreement has been reached that will allow 360 players to connect to PC and PS2 servers via PlayOnline and enjoy the same aging game all over again (or for the first time). my guess : initially microsoft didn't want FFXI to cross platform with sony Ps2 ? maybe they were demanding a microsoft exclusive server...

Maybe because you have to pay for Live AND FFXI is too much? and Live is now free? I dont know whats going on with 360 just a guess i heard Live was free..

my guess : initially microsoft didn't want FFXI to cross platform with sony Ps2 ? maybe they were demanding a microsoft exclusive server...

Naa, M$ would be at that time in no position to demand that.

It's more likely concerning POL. At that time Live was subscription based.

S-E wanted a direct boot to POL, while microsoft wanted people to use Live. Because live would cost extra money, you probably got managers banging their heads againist one another, on who would pay what, and who went through who.

live360 silver probably simplified that a bit, since it's free, S-E probably said,
"Fine we'll give you your live, as long as you give us a double log onto POL"

I think the main reason is that the Xbox only has an 8 Gigabyte Harddrive, so FFXI would probably nerf an Xbox.

Originally posted by Pai Pai Master
Yet FFXI is still one of the top selling MMOs in history. I said "Look Better", that doesn't neccisarly mean that they are better. I play Guild Wars as well as FFXI. Graphicly Guild Wars is much better, and it should be, its 3 years younger than FFXI but I still much prefer FFXI over it and play it alot more often than I do Guild Wars.

That's exactly what I was thinking when I read this post. Why does Microsoft have to fucking buy everything. We're all already running a damned copy of Windows and I don't want everything in my house to be labeled MICROSOFT. Even if MS didn't buy FFXI to use on XBox, that would mean S-E sold rights on it to MS which is even worse =( I'm afraid Final Fantasy XIII would end up coming out for X360. SE have been trying to get FFXI out on the current gen XBox for a while but MS wouldn't allow it (idiots) because they didn't want SE to use POL, instead that wanted them to use XBox Live. SE didn't want to use XBox Live so it never got very far. The rules for the 360 have been slacked slightly and MS have allowed them to POL on the 360 rather than XBox Live.

I don't know how much of this has already been mentioned, this thread grew alot since I last read it and I can't be arsed reading it all.

http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=9054 says that there's isn't going to be any graphical updates to FF except for the nessicary addition of HDTV support for the 360. A shame if you ask me, I know Dark ages of Camalot when through at least 3 different graphic engines to try and keep the graphics up to date, it would have been nice to see FFXI do something similar if SE are planning on keeping it around for long in the future. Who knows, maybe they'll change their minds and update them in a future expansion although admiditly it would be a huge task.

Originally posted by Kafeen
I said "Look Better", that doesn't neccisarly mean that they are better. I play Guild Wars as well as FFXI. Graphicly Guild Wars is much better, and it should be, its 3 years younger than FFXI but I still much prefer FFXI over it and play it alot more often than I do Guild Wars.

SE have been trying to get FFXI out on the current gen XBox for a while but MS wouldn't allow it (idiots) because they didn't want SE to use POL, instead that wanted them to use XBox Live. SE didn't want to use XBox Live so it never got very far. The rules for the 360 have been slacked slightly and MS have allowed them to POL on the 360 rather than XBox Live.

I don't know how much of this has already been mentioned, this thread grew alot since I last read it and I can't be arsed reading it all.

http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=9054 says that there's isn't going to be any graphical updates to FF except for the nessicary addition of HDTV support for the 360. A shame if you ask me, I know Dark ages of Camalot when through at least 3 different graphic engines to try and keep the graphics up to date, it would have been nice to see FFXI do something similar if SE are planning on keeping it around for long in the future. Who knows, maybe they'll change their minds and update them in a future expansion although admiditly it would be a huge task.

If they do upgrade the graphics or not I'm sure it'll be some time after all this that's currently happening is done. SE's tactics with updating FFXI has so far always been get everyone to an equivalent first then upgrade to better. So most likely an upgrade to graphics will occur after the Xbox 360 and PS3 have been out for sometime were many of their PS2 players would have a good chance to obtain one. That way a graphics upgrade won't end up splitting what they have to do with each of their updates they do to the game nearly every month.

Originally posted by Kafeen
I said "Look Better", that doesn't neccisarly mean that they are better. I play Guild Wars as well as FFXI. Graphicly Guild Wars is much better, and it should be, its 3 years younger than FFXI but I still much prefer FFXI over it and play it alot more often than I do Guild Wars.

SE have been trying to get FFXI out on the current gen XBox for a while but MS wouldn't allow it (idiots) because they didn't want SE to use POL, instead that wanted them to use XBox Live. SE didn't want to use XBox Live so it never got very far. The rules for the 360 have been slacked slightly and MS have allowed them to POL on the 360 rather than XBox Live.

I don't know how much of this has already been mentioned, this thread grew alot since I last read it and I can't be arsed reading it all.

http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=9054 says that there's isn't going to be any graphical updates to FF except for the nessicary addition of HDTV support for the 360. A shame if you ask me, I know Dark ages of Camalot when through at least 3 different graphic engines to try and keep the graphics up to date, it would have been nice to see FFXI do something similar if SE are planning on keeping it around for long in the future. Who knows, maybe they'll change their minds and update them in a future expansion although admiditly it would be a huge task.

As I said in a previous post, putting FFXI on a current Gen Xbox would nerf the freaking Xbox. FFXI without an Expansion is 5 Gigabytes. 6 Gigs with one. How the hell could you have FFXI and other games with Custom Soundtracks on an 8 Gigabyte System. They were not being idiots. Hell I would not allow a game that required to be installed to be released on an XBox either, they knew they neeeded the other gigabytes on the Xbox for their other games. Plus didn't they allow EA's own service so they would make Xbox Live games.

FFXI looks different depending on the resolution and antialiasing. So if Xbox 360 has a better graphic engine, chances are FFXI should look at lot nicer too. Ps2 has got a really poor antialiasing when running FFXI it gives me lots of headache looking at the screen :(

Originally posted by Kafeen
http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=9054 says that there's isn't going to be any graphical updates to FF [/B]

I already saw that article and it stinks of false information (or the usual convention misguided gossip) from miles apart.
he doesn't cite the name nor the role of the "japanese SE representatives" he talked to, and this tells me one of the following:
1: he didn't cite his source simply because this source doesn't exist. He overheard the usual convention gossip and is trying to sell it to the crowd
2: he talked to the usual SE stand worker, and is not citing his name because that name wouldn't give any authority to his article, at a convention, if you have to use stand workers as your sources, then it's better you go to talk to the hostesses, at least they look good, and their knowledge on the subjct is the same.
3: he talked with someone, but was just a quick word in the middle of the chaos and the crowd, so quick that he didn't even catch the name of the one he spoke with, in this case the reliability of the source is zero.
4: he talked with an actual SE representative, but for an unfortunate case a very selective amnesia deleted the name from his brain, so he can't cite it in his article... mmmh...

In conclusion, we have an official SE press release that clearly states there will be a "MUCH MORE" visually impressive environment, and an unknown article writer on an averagely rated site that states exactly the contrary and doesn't even name his source... Who're we gonna believe until further proof?

Originally posted by Abriael

In conclusion, we have an official SE press release that clearly states there will be a "MUCH MORE" visually impressive environment, and an unknown article writer on an averagely rated site that states exactly the contrary and doesn't even name his source... Who're we gonna believe until further proof?

Where is this said exactly? I wouldn't mind an exact quote and source.

It's an official press release from the SE site, i posted the link earlier in this same thread.

To quote it exactly then:

The powerful next-generation capabilities of the Xbox 360 will provide a much more dynamic and visually impressive gateway to Vana'diel - the world of FINAL FANTASY XI.

Nowhere does it say that they are actually upgrading the visuals to FFXI. This is just marketing lingo.

There ios quite a difference between marketing lingo and plain lies, expecially from big companies like S-E, if they didn't want to inprove the graphics they would have just talked about a "much more dynamic environment".
"much more (...) visually impressive" it's too much of a clear statement to be JUST marketing lingo.
Press releases are often inflated and full of hype, but are based upon true data (sure more than an article that doesn't even name it's sources), you only have to know how to read them.

All it sounds to me is them resounding what SE original stated about their game when it was released. They called it a dynamic and visually impressive game. Dynamic because it was multi-platform, more dynamic then just mean more platforms. Visually impressive was because of well just what it said and just repeating that already known fact. It doesn't mean they changed the game at all, if you look at games that are on PS2 and Xbox their visual quality is definatly different already that can be all their stating when they mean visually impressive.

EDIT:

Marketing lingo is taking truth, even if they are past known truths and bending them to make the mass media gossip. Make them think one thing when really it's another, it's the only legal form of lying that they can do.

It's similar to the idea of a guy and his girlfriend spending a night with eachother, did nothing sexual but the guy saying "Yeah we had a lot of 'fun', we spent the whole night having 'fun'." All trying to make his friends believe something sexual happened when it didn't without directly lying.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/20/news_6126204.html

The FFXI thing is part of the new Gamespot rumor control.

Originally posted by Manatra
To quote it exactly then:



Nowhere does it say that they are actually upgrading the visuals to FFXI. This is just marketing lingo. It probably refers to the increased resolution for HDTV support.

"Every next-gen Xbox title will be optimized for 720p and 1080i." <--- means higher resolution? what's the 720p? pixel?

Originally posted by Teh Blind Guard
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/20/news_6126204.html

The FFXI thing is part of the new Gamespot rumor control.

The official story: "Microsoft does not comment on rumors or speculation."--Microsoft spokesperson. Square Enix was unavailable for comment as of press time. In other words they don't know any more than anyone else.

"Every next-gen Xbox title will be optimized for 720p and 1080i." <--- means higher resolution? what's the 720p? pixel? Sort of. It means 720 progressive scan lines. 1080i Is 1080 Interlaced scan lines.

god people playing FFXI on X-box 360....I should quite now......

Microsoft sucks.....xbox sucks....and so will FFXI on 360 *sigh* why taint FFXI with the crap box 360

That's surprising coming from someone as 'open minded' as you, Kailea.

And high resolutions interlaced make my eyes bleed.

Originally posted by Kailea-D
god people playing FFXI on X-box 360....I should quite now......

Microsoft sucks.....xbox sucks....and so will FFXI on 360 *sigh* why taint FFXI with the crap box 360

I hope you're posting that on a Linux box or Mac.

Originally posted by Kailea-D
god people playing FFXI on X-box 360....I should quite now......

Microsoft sucks.....xbox sucks....and so will FFXI on 360 *sigh* why taint FFXI with the crap box 360

I hate Microsoft, but I LOVE Xbox. Sure Windows sucks and has a ton of security holes but it can play the most games (which is why I use it). If it was not for that fact I would be a Linux user. Then again Half Life 2 is for Linux but I am not sure FFXI is (I keep getting delayed on registering, so I am shooting for like end of June. If I am not signed up by then, someone shoot me)

My opinion is that you can hate the company but you don't have to hate all of their products. Like with EA, I detest EA but I really want Battlefield 2 (which is only published by EA).

Originally posted by Kailea-D


Microsoft sucks.....xbox sucks....and so will FFXI on 360 *sigh* why taint FFXI with the crap box 360

LOL This is a quite common response from people who are either fanboys of a competing system or they are misinformed. While I am also not a huge fan of MS, I do respect what they've done. I do not long for the days of DOS, so I appreciate the strides they took to give us the format we have now. But all things change, and so do people....many times not for the better.

But I'm also an avid gamer. I buy every new system released and give them all a unbiased try. I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that the X-box does not suck. Keep in mind I play my PS2 more often than my X-box but I can still keep an open mind and say the system is a good one. Bad systems don't last long and after years on the market they are in the clearance bin for a fraction of the cost. And its very unlikely there will be a number two out after it. Is the X-box in the clearance bin? Nope. Is it clearance priced? Nope, same price as its biggest competitor. Is there going to be another? Yep, the 360 is on the horizon. So armed with all the FACTS and not feelings, the X-box is a successful and competitive system that is providing good entertainment for millions of people. Two million on Live alone. Millions of people would not continue to support a system that sucks.

The arrangement of FFXI and MS is a mutually beneficial deal. It infuses FFXI with fresh blood and gives the 360 a boost in the RPG department. It didn't surprise me at all when I heard it. There have been lots of rumors flying about MS trying to get hot RPG's to round out their library. And so it is done. They will also be getting other SE games which will be in that realm. So kudos to them for pulling in a big name. It remains to be seen if it will work! LOL

Yeah I'm new to the forums. I loved the final fantasy series a long time. So when I heard FF11 was coming to the 360 I flipped out. I decided to bone up on the races, the jobs the whole thing. After looking at the main site I decided to come to the forums to see the human input on this mmo. I scrolled down a bit and found this topic. Now I have read each of the posts. At the begining people seemed to be pro FF11 for the 360 but as the posts progressed and the days advanced, the haters finally jumped out of the woodwork. Blood Red Poet , bro I wanted to personally thank you for reppin the 360 and I'm going to help you out wit that. First thing I wanted to address was the whole fanboy thing. Yes there are some fanboys out there that constantly come out with post comments such as PS2 PWWNZZZ, REVO 4tw, and I HAVE MS TATTOOED ON MY ARM. But the truth is I think we are all Fanboys at some point even the dedicated gamers out there including myself. We all favor a certain company or system one time or another btw I own all current gen. systems. I'm sure alot of us were Nintendo Disciples until the dissapointing N64 came through and we seen the ps1 finally shine. I flipped real quick over to sony. Now 2005, I'm with Microsoft and I state it proudly. I love my PS2 but I gotta go wit MS. Yes PS2 had the multitude of games, but it some of the games it came out with were terrible. I still look at my copy of Rogue Ops and wonder what was I high on when I bought it. We cannot move on without talking about gamecube. Personally I regret ever buying one. Nintendo tried to make it a console for everyone but to me it wasnt. It was made for the younger crowd. Its disney lineup and countless other kiddy games really didnt catch my eye. Yes it did have mario and link trying to entice me but at this point I'm sick of playing their sequels no matter how innovative they may be. But Xbox, there was something to look at. Back by the current richest guy in the world you have to see potential there. So November 11th 2001, I bought my box and havent stopped playing it since. All my systems had play but my xbox got the most. As compelling as Vice City was to play, KOTOR pulled me away from it. Finding that next twist in the storyline just was more important to me than finally killing Sonny. Another thing I would like to address is the debate of PS3 vs Xbox 360's hardware capabilities. Arguments are now settled ladies gentlemen. Click Here http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html
Now thats just at the begining we dont really know the capabilities of these monsters until games are made that push the limit of their hardware. I have seen both press conferences to the end and I must say the differences were nil. They both had the glitz and glamour. Blinded you to death with flashing lights. But the main difference I seen was proof of product. The PS3 conference and Xbox conference had demos but there was alot more solid games in the xbox section. Maybe thats because PS3 comes out later then the 360 but If they're planning to bring this system out sometime in spring 2006 they had better get a move on because I cant imagine people being amused to long at making ducks fall into a bathtub. I personally dont believe the PS3 is truly finished due to the presentation. Yeah they got the hardware pretty much solid but my PC could perform tech demos and I'm not even going to talk about the controller. The One thing that stood out to me or everyone was the Killzone 2 trailer. Now that was impressive. It looked beautiful. But pre-rendered beautiful. I would be totally surprised if it turned out to be in game action cuz damn. Another thing was the features for both systems. Microsoft is really focusing on the generalizing the System for everyone ex. VelocityGirl. The ability to hook up with many usb devices. Portable 20GB hard drive. The Xbox Arcade. The Marketplace Sony's real innovations wit the PS3 other than the cell have been unconfirmed as of yet.

As far as FF11 I'm raving about it. I got my wallpaper all set up. I'm very happy that square enix and MS have finally reconciled. Microsoft needed this. Due to the lack luster sales of the Xbox in Japan, Microsoft new that they had to do something drastic so they would buy their games and the Final Fantasy Line just may be it. Thats another thing I think about sometimes. The whole Japan not buying Xbox but keeping Nintendo and Sony strapped up with sales. That shit is just cold. I mean damn we buy all of their systems but when it comes to showing some kind of love to the box MS gets none. So I rather support our economy and give my money to Microsoft. Just a thought Guys. Just a Theory. In November when I take home my 360 I will hopefully be taking home FF11 with it. No doubt it will be a fun experience. I cant wait to meet and admire most of you guys. But please be gentle to us Xbox folk. Like the new kid on the block, all we want is to be accepted. Thx for listening guys. O and btw I I have both the 360 and PS3 on preorder. I need my DMC and MGS 4 damnit. O and Kailea on behalf of the xbox community in response to your statement,"Hate or Love It The Underdog is On Top."

So, that's Microsoft's analysis. What do you make of it? Tell us what you think on the boards.

Not settled, this is conducted by microsoft, and until a non-biased neutral third party does it, i wont believe that article 100%...and even then not the third party 100%

In any case welcome to FFXI hope you find it something that is worth your time ^^

I do wonder if PS3 supports FFXI as well...seems silly if it doesnt. I wonder if Revolution in the future when they put their specs out will entice SE to make a port for them as well? Who knows, the more the merrier...at least past the first 3 months ;) *runs from the dunes*

Originally posted by CN1CE
But the truth is I think we are all Fanboys at some point even the dedicated gamers out there including myself. We all favor a certain company or system one time or another btw I own all current gen. systems.

LOL Speak for yourself. I prefer no system over another. I play PS2 more because it has RPG's. When I buy an action game that comes out on multiple consoles, I buy the X-box version. And, last but not least, I patiently wait for a game to be released on the GC that actually interests me but I do snatch it up asap! It's hands down one of the best systems for party games in my house. (Imagine 6 people 40+ playing Donkey Konga....hilarious!)

So they all have a place in my heart. I just know each ones strong and weak points and apply that to my game buying. Now when it comes to handhelds, I tend to have favorites. Neo Geo Pocket, SP, PSP are alway grabbed before anything else and thought of highly. I just wish my DS would catch up. ; ;

Neo Geo Pocket

Oh yeah! My favorite handheld.:)

Originally posted by lionx
Not settled, this is conducted by microsoft, and until a non-biased neutral third party does it, i wont believe that article 100%...and even then not the third party 100%

In any case welcome to FFXI hope you find it something that is worth your time ^^

I do wonder if PS3 supports FFXI as well...seems silly if it doesnt. I wonder if Revolution in the future when they put their specs out will entice SE to make a port for them as well? Who knows, the more the merrier...at least past the first 3 months ;) *runs from the dunes*

i doubt PS3 would be backward compatible with the current FFXI, since the PSX was incompatible with FFXI dispite having all the pre-requisite hardware to run FFXI.

if they are really redoing the graphics, a PS3 port is probably gonna release after the xbox360 launch.

there could be chance the revolution gets FFXI also. i think SE want to put FFXI on as many platform as possible now. its probably their biggest source of income nowadays, they probably make enough in a month to cover the running cost of the servers for a whole year

I've never liked Windows, since using so many other GUI interfaced OS windows to me is just awful. Windows XP is even worse, the main thing Microsoft always seems to have little in is their security. It's even sadder when you try to use Windows 2000 and it has so many flaws trying to using Office 2000 with it (There updates fixed some of it, but still the higher end OLE functions and all just flat out suck).

The problem that bothers me with the Xbox and possibly even happen with the 360, is that the Xbox is extreemly easy to convert into a cheap PC. This again displaying MS lack or care of security and then their comment of backwards compability, they seems to be showing their same ugly head in trying to make propietaries.

Already if you've followed the Xbox 360's progress they are taking a similar messed up path that Sony did with PS2 releasing development kits and all late, were as this time with the PS3 Sony seemed to of learned their lesson and had their kits out for a good length of time.

The biggest thing I'm worried about is how easy will the Xbox 360 be to convert into a PC? If anywere near as easy as the Xbox then you'll probably have cheap PCs with a processing power of 3.2Ghz and that can't be good.

Originally posted by Hyde
i doubt PS3 would be backward compatible with the current FFXI, since the PSX was incompatible with FFXI dispite having all the pre-requisite hardware to run FFXI.

if they are really redoing the graphics, a PS3 port is probably gonna release after the xbox360 launch.

there could be chance the revolution gets FFXI also. i think SE want to put FFXI on as many platform as possible now. its probably their biggest source of income nowadays, they probably make enough in a month to cover the running cost of the servers for a whole year

In case you don't know the PS3 is backwards compatibale with all of it's previous stuff. In the live interview with Jack Tretton even says the PS3 will be better capable of backwards compatibility then the PS2 is. The PS3 is suppose to have a detachable HD so it should be capable of FFXI no problem.

The thing I find cheap as a dirty trick Microsoft is doing with the Xbox 360, is they actually went boasting that it'll be usable with the PSP. If they ment in terms of accessing the Memory Stick then of course, any PC is capable of that but still an underhanded tactic.

As far as the FFXI being in HD on Xbox 360, that is something that the PS2 doesn't have. So far can't really find anything stating on what plans the PS3 has for the FFXI, but then PS3 is still choosing to be quite secreative about the PS3. I'm curious if they are trying to get Microsoft to be a little to overconfident and then go in for the kill, because that's what it seems like is happening.

I mean you can see news interviews almost everywere with Xbox developers talking trash about the PS3. In every interview they never explained how the PS3 can boast having 2 teraflops of System Floating Point Performance. All they do is talk down the Floating Point calculations saying they are not that big a deal for a game. :confused:

Originally posted by Hyde
i doubt PS3 would be backward compatible with the current FFXI, since the PSX was incompatible with FFXI dispite having all the pre-requisite hardware to run FFXI.

if they are really redoing the graphics, a PS3 port is probably gonna release after the xbox360 launch.

there could be chance the revolution gets FFXI also. i think SE want to put FFXI on as many platform as possible now. its probably their biggest source of income nowadays, they probably make enough in a month to cover the running cost of the servers for a whole year

Where exactly did you hear this?..... The PS1 nowhere near meets the required hardware to run FFXI

i doubt PS3 would be backward compatible with the current FFXI, since the PSX was incompatible with FFXI dispite having all the pre-requisite hardware to run FFXI.

Technically it's not, simply because they use different HDs. ps2 uses standard 3.2" and ps3 reported to use notebook 2.5".

Other then that, ffxi is not a dvd, it can be patch to be compatible.

Giving above, It would be wiser to port it instead, and give it a little facelift, ala 360.

Of course they S-E can choose not do ps3 at all...but S-E would dump the POL franchise like that, and they definitelly don't want that.

Where exactly did you hear this?..... The PS1 nowhere near meets the required hardware to run FFXI

I believe he mean PSX(multi media console) not PS1. It sold pretty badly, basically a ps2, so S-E didn't really bother with it.

Originally posted by kuu

I believe he mean PSX(multi media console) not PS1. It sold pretty badly, basically a ps2, so S-E didn't really bother with it.

-.-; To my knowlege the PSX was the orig. name of the PS1... well before they changed the name to Playstation... oi

LOL This is a quite common response from people who are either fanboys of a competing system or they are misinformed

I am not a fan boy of any other system, I have eerr had all three systems at one point, and the X-box was nothing but bells and wistles and nothign good at all, and like some others have said, if it was not for games only suporting windows...I would not use it. I kept my PS2 and GC because they where better than X-box, power is not always the answer.

Originally posted by Kailea-D
I am not a fan boy of any other system, I have eerr had all three systems at one point, and the X-box was nothing but bells and wistles and nothign good at all, and like some others have said, if it was not for games only suporting windows...I would not use it. I kept my PS2 and GC because they where better than X-box, power is not always the answer.

Well technically the PS2 did have more power then the Xbox even though the Xbox has a 700 Mhz processor and the PS2 is half of that. PS2's power was in it's bandwith in which it completly blew Xbox away in. Xbox only gained so much power (I fell) is because of Halo and only Halo, they advertised the hell out of that game.

Xbox's flaw though is when it ended up comming up to the games drawing out more bandwidth their system didn't have what it takes so the game would slow sometimes to a terrible point. In Xbox 360 they got smart and compensated for that (Maybe overcompensated), as far as power the Xbox 360 and PS3 look to be very equal and still the defining key that can change so much of this is the data about the cell processor that Sony is still keeping so secretive.

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The thing I really like about the PS3 is we'll get to use our Memory Sticks standard/Duo/Pro, SD standard/mini, and the CompactFlash (Type I & II) instead of those propietary memory cards. Which Xbox 360 is still sticking with Memory Units.

I like that because I already have over 3 GBs worth in all 3 of those storage types.

bah, I wasn't planning on buying a 360 but hell..

Originally posted by Kailea-D
...X-box was noth