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Kaylik
12-19-2004, 12:10 PM
ok i know just about everyone will say this is a crappy sub for a mnk, cause it has bad statsnor whatever. I'm not looking for stats i'm asking if you think this would be a FUN class mix to play. i mean think about it a mnk dealing awsome damage and suddenly castin ninjitsu magic, i thought it would look cool , be fun and challenging. just wanted to know how fun you think this would be.

P.S. some may say i'm waisting the duel wielding ability of a nin, I couldnt care less about deul wielding i just want it to be fun and challenging.

poweryoga
12-19-2004, 12:26 PM
you won't be doing "awesome damage" with nin sub.

ninjitsu when subbed is near useless.

if your idea of "fun and challenging" is sitting in jeuno for hours because of your sub.... you'll have a lot of that.

Gryff
12-19-2004, 02:45 PM
actually ninja is a great subjob for monk, its just highly situational.

one of my ls ninjas tanks king ranps parties, we've actually done

mnk/nin mnk/nin mnk/thf mnk/thf whm/blm brd/whm

, he also SJ's nin for BC fights etc where its inevitable he'll turn hate, its also really useful for stuff like the AA fights.

not great for exp though.

Buuyon
12-19-2004, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by poweryoga
ninjitsu when subbed is near useless.

its nothing great when mained either...

in the end...monk/nin will only have ninjitsu...wich isnt even that fun...i mean...you aready got two weapons...

"WOW THIS IS SO FUN!!! MY NINJITSU CANT STICK AND IM DOING SHIT DAMAGE!"

Redlimit
12-20-2004, 04:28 AM
MNK/NIN is only an endgame combo for Dynamis runs and some HNM fights. You get no benefit at all for subbing NIN at any other time.

You won't be landing any of the Ninjitsu on IT mobs with only half of the Ninjitsu skill of a NIN main. Not only that, but you have no reason to use anything else but Utsusemi with the NIN sub, and its simply to make it so you can stay alive longer without help from mages (especially important in Dynamis if you a random melee)

cloudedge
12-25-2004, 09:54 PM
actually a friend of mine has use this for a BCNM 40 in feiyin against the skeleton. I forgot the BCNM name but it's basically a skeleton mob that raises itself 4 times, 3 as drk, 2 as blm.

The pt set up was whm/blm, pld/war, and mnk/nin

This works out a lot better than mnk/war since mnk almost always pull hate from the pld from time to time... and having the images up definately help me to conserve a lot more mp since it's such a long long battle =D

We were only able to complete this bcnm with mnk/nin. Using mnk/war cos too much hate, and thus cost me too much mana to heal him.

METDeath
12-26-2004, 08:58 AM
Undying Promise, and yes MNK/WAR is just too much hate for anyone, war/nin nin/war both lost hate to my mnk without beserk or focus up at all.

Brennon
12-31-2004, 08:55 PM
mnk/nin is a great soloer. . . which you're gonna be doing alot of if /nin is the only subjob you have available.

Talus
02-11-2005, 09:34 PM
MNK/NIN is situational, yes.

I've "tanked" Serket many times as MNK/NIN, tanked Simurgh, Roc, etc etc. It's honestly not that hard, another MNK/NIN in my LS has tanked Bune & Tzee Xicu. It's doable. It's not a crap sub. The whole point of NIN sub isn't to use the elemental or enfeebling ninjutsu it's to use utsusemi: ichi and utsusemi: ni, let's not beat around the bush.

The other thing I'd like to point out is that as an Elvaan MNK75/WAR37 I have 75 base STR. As MNK75/THF37 I have 71 base STR. And as MNK75/NIN37 I have 73 base STR. So it's not exactly like you're doing shit damage, you're just losing berserk (marginally increases ws damage) and double attack.

cloudedge
02-22-2005, 07:53 AM
oh and mnk/nin is not a bad combo for ballista too ^^; unless u have sam up with meditate ^^~

Blood Red Poet
02-23-2005, 01:04 PM
DarkSEED's leader, Renza, can solo a lot of weaker HNMs with MNK/NIN and tanks just about anything ;P.

Fingus
03-04-2005, 03:25 AM
Indeed.

And his MNK/WHM... :thumbsup:

Pounce
03-04-2005, 08:09 AM
A lot of you are focusing on non-leveling situations, where indeed, MNK/NIN can be kinda useful.

But I don't think that's what the original poster is asking.

Enichi
03-09-2005, 03:59 AM
Talus... lets not forget ur thf and /thf buddies who help keep the hate on you........ but ya.... mnk/nin isnt really a bad combo in certain situation