How many attacks result when Double Attack and Triple Attack stack?

[Spider-Dan]

This is just an informal survey. I would also appreciate it if you would explain why you chose the answer that you did.

[DrSerpico]

I voted 3 simply because I've never seen triple and double in a fast enough conjunction to think that they'd stack.

Or in short: Experience. May be faulty, but...

[CarbonFibre]

I have no idea personally, but I just picked 3 hits because I've heard that only one or the other goes off and that triple will precede over double should they both activate.

[DelennFFXI]

As a thf/war, I've never seen more than ~16% TP gain from any attack "round", nor have I see the animation swing more than 3 times a round.

I used thf/war for a while post 55 and I still have a Viking Shield to prove it ;) Through sheer experience, I believe 3A overrides 2A (same reasoning as Serpicatha).

[guyincorporated]

/echo delenn.

Been trying a lot of thief/war lately, and 2x and 3x attack are easy to spot (faster attack animations). Even when I do 2 3x attacks back-to-back, there is a pause between the set, so I'm pretty sure that they don't stack.

[Ammarant]

i clicked 3 cause thats what ive always believed cause that is what i was told by some high lvl when i started thf

[Tokitoki]

They cannot stack, though one can after after another but its all in two different swings. This has actually been said a million times ^^;

[DelennFFXI]

Originally posted by Tokitoki
They cannot stack, though one can after after another but its all in two different swings. This has actually been said a million times ^^;
Even so, you still have annoying threads (at least on other bboards) where people show off huge numbers with kraken + ridill + multiply madness without knowing the mechanics of the game ^^;;

[Spider-Dan]

As of right now, 10 of the 23 votes say that they do stack in some way, yet all of the people who have posted explanations say that it doesn't.

If you vote that 2A and 3A stack, please explain why you believe so. Thanks.

[Tokitoki]

I can tell you why, they dont have triple or double attack, maybe dont even have THF lvld, and they just like to screw with pols :rolleyes:

[Rhayn]

I've never leveled THF/WAR post lv55, but I've observed thieves that have. From my observations, double and triple attack cannot occur at the same time and 3A overrides 2A. Double attack can go off on its own though as long as triple attack didn't proc at the same time.

While on this topic, the ninja trait Dual Wield makes triple attack a 4-hit attack round. I don't believe each hand can proc seperately (ie. 6 hits in one attack round) because I've never seen it, but it's still very impressive when triple attack goes off two or even three times in a row, resulting in 8 or 12 hits back-to-back. :)

EDIT: Oh, just thought I'd mention most of these observations come from the fact my static party from level 52-75 had a thief in it, since my thief is not high enough level to test any of this yet myself.

[Omena]

Originally posted by Rhayn
I've never leveled THF/WAR post lv55, but I've observed thieves that have. From my observations, double and triple attack cannot occur at the same time and 3A overrides 2A. Double attack can go off on its own though as long as triple attack didn't proc at the same time.

While on this topic, the ninja trait Dual Wield makes triple attack a 4-hit attack round. I don't believe each hand can proc seperately (ie. 6 hits in one attack round) because I've never seen it, but it's still very impressive when triple attack goes off two or even three times in a row, resulting in 8 or 12 hits back-to-back. :)

EDIT: Oh, just thought I'd mention most of these observations come from the fact my static party from level 52-75 had a thief in it, since my thief is not high enough level to test any of this yet myself.

Actually, both hands can proc separately. When a thf/nin (like myself) get triple on both swings we get a round with 6 swings.

[Rhayn]

Originally posted by Omena
Actually, both hands can proc separately. When a thf/nin (like myself) get triple on both swings we get a round with 6 swings.

Cool ^^

I hadn't seen it myself, but I had noticed that it seemed sometimes our set THF triple attacked with he offhand dagger instead of he main dagger. I was thinking you had a chance to triple attack with either hand, but I wasn't sure if it would allow you to triple attack with both at once, since it won't allow triple attack and double attack.

I guess with each individual weapon you're wielding there is a chance for triple or double attack to happen, but you can't have both occur on the same weapon.

[Ixaera]

I have both war and nin leveled up for various uses...war for damage in exp with my set and nin for solo/duo or boss battles and such (much more useful when the goal is to come out alive rather than chain #5, at least with my set pt) --

I've *never* seen 3A and 2A stack on the same attack round. I never ever ever get more than 2 hits or 3 hits in one attack round (you can tell because of the slight pause, though I admit it is VERY hard to see the difference between attack rounds with a hornetneedle or something -- er not that I use it in exp >< ). I have seen three 3A's back to back on warrior sub...that was pretty crazy...9 attacks it looked like my arm was gonna fly off...I was hasted too :sweat: Even so, not all the hits were animated, and you had to count the 9 hits in the log to know it happened...

On thf/nin, procing 3A on both hands is somewhat rare, but it happens...that *also* looks like arms flying off shoulder sockets if your delay is low enough hehe.

[Fire]

I voted 5 to fuck with the poll! ;) I never xp'd with war sub so dunno honnestly. :P

[Novac]

I agree with the rest of the thf/war here, since I'm one myself.

I'm in the school of high ATK and high DAM for kukri, no matter the delay. TP gain? I have +40 acc for that. Besides, I can keep up with drg/war at level 64 (lagging only 20% behind).

Thus, I see my attacks clearly. Cermet Kukri has 198 delay, that's almost 2 seconds per swing. I either see 3A or 2A for either 15/16 or 11/12 TP gain, never more.

If you want to test, grab one of those slow elemental staff and go wack on some stuff. That way, you'll see your swings clearly.

Also, I agree with 3A overriding 2A just because I hope it be true ^^'

[Dragonhope]

I voted 6 hits. It has only happened once but I had it do 5 hits without even pausing a little once. I use a Corsair's Knife which has among the highest delays out of daggers so if it was a Triple followed by a Double, there would've been a pause. Having Triples and Doubles coming off one after another (not stacking) is a lot more common. I did also get a few 4 hits but again...not that many. So I think it's possible for the 6 hits...just...very rare.

[Destruction]

ever since ive hit lv 60 thf ive used Greed Scimitar exclusively for farming to my current lv 64. for a fact ive seen triple go off followed by a double or double followed by a triple and yes there is a pause on both maybe a little less pause on the latter. i have not seen a complete 5 hits without a pause. just from experience. you take it the way you want your ass want to take it. :spin: