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MassecreMaker
11-29-2004, 11:39 AM
personally, no offense, but i think Monk is the cheapest...well...thinking about it, no armour, no weapons, lol:spin:

Feenicks
11-29-2004, 12:26 PM
SMN.

Uroboros
11-29-2004, 03:34 PM
PLD's cheaper than the jobs on your list.

Elesirdur
11-30-2004, 04:59 PM
Any of the jobs that will use the Far Eastern-style armor (Monk, Ninja, and Samurai) become extremely expenive beyond the late 30s. Go look up the asking price for a Jujitsu Gi at the Jeuno AH on your server.

And Uroboros is correct, Paladin is by far the cheapest Job in Vana'diel. The most expenive item I've ever been 'required' to buy was my Gluttony Sword, and at 150k Bahamaut seems to be a bargain compared to some other servers.

Darkedge
12-01-2004, 12:47 AM
How is SMN in terms of expenses?

Elemental Staves, mp gear? What else, I don't think more than 1 or 2 elemental spirits would be needed.

Spider-Dan
12-02-2004, 03:21 PM
Isn't BRD the cheapest?

MassecreMaker
12-02-2004, 06:04 PM
Im Talking Bout Basic Jobs

Delta9
12-03-2004, 07:58 AM
Monk is by no means the cheapest out of those.

If you want to gimp yourself to a higher level then, maybe, monk is, then again, you could always be a gimp mage. None of the jobs truely are "cheap". Spells add up (not to mention mage gear)and melee equip doesn't grow on trees.

Anyway you look at it, you'll be farming or fishing or synthing some to get gear, its just a matter of how gimp you want to be or you could try to get decent equip and put in some effort.

Elesirdur
12-06-2004, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Delta9
...its just a matter of how gimp you want to be...

Not terribly eloquent, but you've hit the nail on the head.

Sebazy
12-06-2004, 11:22 PM
Between those jobs its pretty much tied between whm and blm imho.

Whm has it incredibly cheap until the mid 50s, even raise 2 (On Middy at least) Isnt that big a deal imho, however past that things start getting painful with nice +mp and refresh equipment as well as a couple of spells (Raise 3 just hit 1.7 mil~ :sweat:) being absurdly overpriced.

Blms on the other hand, about the only significant expense they have on equipment are eventually HQ staves and Snow rings. However earlier on, spell costs can be pretty painful even when your buying from vendors.

So really it depends how far you want to go.

And if you add in adv jobs, Bard is by far the cheapest, once you've got your HQ instruments out of the way its very easy to go on a tight budget all the way to 75 without being considered gimp.

Delta9
12-07-2004, 04:08 AM
I try ~_~.

Keyura
12-12-2004, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by Sebazy
Between those jobs its pretty much tied between whm and blm imho.

Whm has it incredibly cheap until the mid 50s, even raise 2 (On Middy at least) Isnt that big a deal imho, however past that things start getting painful with nice +mp and refresh equipment as well as a couple of spells (Raise 3 just hit 1.7 mil~ :sweat:) being absurdly overpriced.

Blms on the other hand, about the only significant expense they have on equipment are eventually HQ staves and Snow rings. However earlier on, spell costs can be pretty painful even when your buying from vendors.

So really it depends how far you want to go.

And if you add in adv jobs, Bard is by far the cheapest, once you've got your HQ instruments out of the way its very easy to go on a tight budget all the way to 75 without being considered gimp.

i feelthe same way, especially about the bard bit, songs are almost always CHEAP and u don't REALLY need all that chr+ gear, so get some staves for songs, some HQ instruements and maybe a few littel perks, its cheap.

Cali
12-12-2004, 09:07 AM
MNK is expensive at one stage, but overall, those equips last a lifetime, compared with other job that need to buy equip every level... if you spread it out, MNK isn't all that much expensive compared with other job, but still, the 'hell' is still pretty expensive, as the price is being pumped right now.

WHM or BLM... Mm... they are cheap in a way, most races can just use racial gear til AF(Galka especially), you still perform well without full gears(my friend went with no rings til 60), I think there are a few good wands/rods that last you 10 lvl? O.o; So, only expense would be food+spell.... but if you take how able are they at farming... their cost do seem a lot to their eyes... else, they'd probably be the cheapest basic job.

Tikipiki
12-13-2004, 11:00 AM
Blm is honestly pretty cheap to level up. Most of the equipment really isn't necessary to perform decently in a party setting. You only need 2 staves at 51 which are a combined total of less then 300k now. Adding more +int is nice but doesn't make that much of a difference. You can skip all the ancients except for the cheap ones: freeze and burst. Your only requirements are spells and not taking hate. At 60 your major purchases as a blm are basically this:

Ice staff
Dark Staff
Warp II (just quest it)
Sleepga II (gotta buy it)
Drain (quest again)
Aspir (quest!)
Every new spell except ancients (minus freeze and burst, people expect you to have these) and stonega II (which for some reason no one expected me to have on Toramas so I didn't XD)
Food - I use sweet rice cakes or melon pie +1

Unlike melee's armor is semi optional for the gimp route, minus the AF gloves which you should beg plead whine steal to get. More int is nice but if you are a taru your damage naked will be close to most of the other races. Elemental torque helps a lot from 65 to 70, but after that I don't notice much of a difference without it. Honestly you can take the route I took and aquire an elemental staff collection before shooting for a torque. Staves are cheap now and from what I paid for all my staves but my ice and dark (which I got before the elemental ore recipe leak) I think I've paid less then 600k which is the elemental torque price. At 68 you get to buy a black cloak, and at 72 an Errant Hpl. My next purchase will most likely be an elemental torque, then iqqira body, elite beret, and druid's slacks. This is because I want some elemental gear to counter god resistances. Eremite rings serve their purpose from level whenever to 60 ish, morions are semi optional since it's only 2 points of damage, fortune egg is free, black neck is free, druid's rope is so cheap it's pretty much free, and black cape is pretty much free as well. All in all to be a semi competant blm isn't really all that hard or expensive. Now as how to make that money as a blm XD Blm does not farm well (and no, ga farming is not that efficient), fishing just got nerfed even more, so you are left with mining and crafting. Mnk might be better in this regard since you can actually farm decently to support your meager lifestyle lol Whm can play tele-taxi as soon as they can find some LS members to kill some easy mobs for teleport scrolls (well minus Vazhl, that one they'll prolly have to buy until later) Of course, it's far easier to get a party as a gimp blm (as long as you have your spells) then it is as a gimp mnk. Up in the air about gimp whm's since it's really dependant on how well they play and what spells they decided to gimp themselves on (don't gimp yourself on Raise II and try to get Erase as soon as possible). Whm without Raise II at 56 = my friend because my smn will get a party before you.

Tiki

Gryff
12-13-2004, 12:35 PM
mages apart from smn are not cheap in real terms, melee can sell armour/weapons etc, mages cant unlearn and sell scrolls.

Karinya
12-17-2004, 10:05 AM
Bard isn't cheap either, they have tons of instruments and many of them have HQ versions that are significantly more effective.

Also, I don't agree with pld being cheap - the 400k gluttony isn't much compared to what other jobs are buying at that level, but tank food was twice as expensive as DD food before the food changes. Who knows what it will settle out to now, but if it works out similarly, that adds up to a lot more gil being eaten for plds or tanking wars than for damage melees. (Still not as bad as rng or nin, of course, but nobody asked what was the most expensive job.) Also, PLD is the job that is most likely to need to upgrade its gear often, and to use HQ and upgraded NM gear (e.g. gaia mantle). No matter what nation you're from you will often want multiple pieces of conquest gear from other nations, which doesn't come cheap.

And whoever posted whm was cheap 1-50 is just out of their mind - even if you don't bother with half a million+ for astrals at level 10, there's still the 400k Erase at level 32 - which you can't sell back later like you can with the astrals. Whm may not be that expensive once you get past Erase, but it's the first job to have a really big cost - and nonrefundable at that. Now you can say that Erase is unnecessary like snipers, Ochiudos kote, etc. - something to spend extra money on if you have it and not necessary to do your job - but having used it myself now, it's about on par with Dispel in usefulness. It really is that good, and it's only because it's so difficult to get Erase and so difficult to get WHMs that Erase-less WHMs don't get passed over for forming parties.

I don't think there are any jobs that are cheap if you intend to do them right. Maybe BLM before 50 - but then you have all those staves and ancients in the 50s.

UnnamedGalka
12-17-2004, 08:27 PM
Isn't BRD the cheapest?

HELL no!

Lupine
12-19-2004, 11:22 PM
Bard is easily the cheapest job out there.

You could go from RSE to AF to 75 and still be a good bard.
Most expensive bard equipment isn't needed for exping.

Irinicus
12-20-2004, 01:42 AM
BLM is not by far cheap either. -ga2 and tier 4 spells can be expensive not to mention Ancient Magic. Water 4 on Phoenix is going for 140k for example. Now of course if you dont wanna buy it, then camp for it, but still BLM can be very expensive.

Kurgan
12-20-2004, 04:00 AM
PLD is the cheapest job you can play without being "gimp".

Before AF, the most expensive stuff you will buy is Royal Knight's gear (each piece being like 50-80k kind of hurts), but when you get your AF and sell all the RK gear off, you have nearly enough gil for Gluttony Sword. When you get to level 66, sell your Gluttony Sword and get an Espadon+1, and you still have leftover gil from the sale.

AF is all you need to get to 75. By no means is Adaman equipment necessary at 73 for exp parties.

So few essentials for PLD are over 100k in price.

cloudedge
12-25-2004, 10:11 PM
Bard isn't cheap either, they have tons of instruments and many of them have HQ versions that are significantly more effective.

I currently hold 11 +1 instrument with me, and I'll gladly admit that they (in total) didn't cost me more than 500k

Most instruments are in the range between 10-20k, with the exception of Traversier (which was 30k) and Mary's Horn (100-150k) but since you keep all these instruments thur out ur entire bard carreer till you get the ultimate lvl 75 instrument.. I'd say they're a pretty good deal.

Equipment wise, no one really care about what we wear much unless we're doing bcnm. 2 main piece of Chr + gear, Jester Cape +1 and Corsette +1 worth in total no more than 200k...

If you're a practical bard, you'll probably have earth and light staff and maybe a monstar signa.. those 3 will total to approx. 700-800k....

An there's a few song, Ballad 2 - 30-50k, Carnage Elegy for 50-130k...

But that's about all the money you'll have to spent for ur whole brd career... So if add them together and round them up.. that's approx. 2 mil for my entire brd existence... which is pretty much the price of a mnk's cross counter ; ;

Or course if you want to be a uber uber brd, and you really want to compete for the most expensive job, you can get all the +1 elemental staves, monster signa, melody earing +1.... and even then that's only roughtly 6 million (someone on allakahzam actually did the calculation)... and maybe you can even get the full zenth gear... you can also cal. the money u spent to get opo opo crown........

But all in all, if you just want to be a good brd, it really does not cost much at all........

Gtsgunner
12-26-2004, 08:13 AM
hmm I"ll say pld is still cheapest just I hate how food has inflated now making it harder and harder to level just because fish kabobs are now 13k a stack which is now starting to really dent my wallet =(

UnnamedGalka
12-28-2004, 01:21 PM
Most expensive bard equipment isn't needed for exping.

Maybe it was just me trying to be the best Bard I could be, but it sure as hell wasn't a cheap path to walk.

Icemage
12-29-2004, 01:30 PM
Hmm... Raise III is currently 2 million gil on Midgardsormr. That'll buy you EVERY bard song, EVERY HQ instrument, a light staff, an earth staff, and probably still leave you with extra money.


Icemage

Olliey2k
12-31-2004, 08:05 AM
Like someone else said, it depends on how gimp you want to be.

Black Mages, if you want to be the best at what you do, get HQ Staves, all spells, INT rings etc...plus 20k for a stack of Melon Pies +1.

As well as not being able to re-sell your spells, your losing alot more gil than any other race.

WHM and BLM are by no means the cheapest jobs around.

I'll go with the masses and say PLD is the cheapest job around.

SkyWing_
12-31-2004, 09:03 AM
BST is the cheapest, PLD's gear is still pretty cheap tho.

try a RNG/NIN, then see wuts in yur wallet :dead: :dead:

I've heard some horror stories from my freinds of some ppl spendin 200K per lvl 55+

Cali
12-31-2004, 10:20 AM
Sky.... Gluttony sword is how much now? O.o; When I last checked(like months ago), it was only 100k or so... that IS cheap... and like others have said, you can always sell your old armors out... unless you are playing WAR, who would share a lot of the PLD armor, else, you can always sell the old, and buy the new.

sudo
12-31-2004, 12:54 PM
bst is not all that cheap.

Well it can be played cheaply but be prepared for more mischarms and deaths due to poor acc. And dying is what bst do alot as it is. You can only decrease how many times you die via good eq since it's just your skill + eq. There is less team work needed as you solo a lot.

Bst ends up being cheaper in the least amount of time due to the fact that you get all the loot when soloing.

It's like farming but you get exp when you play solo.

ZQM
12-31-2004, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by SkyWing_
BST is the cheapest, PLD's gear gets a shyt load more expensive at higher lvls if they want high defensive gear.aka, Gluttony sword.

Haubergeon alone is going to be more expensive then leveling PLD to 75, and that doesn't include the other pieces equipment for BST.

SkyWing_
12-31-2004, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by ZQM
Haubergeon alone is going to be more expensive then leveling PLD to 75, and that doesn't include the other pieces equipment for BST.

well here comes the troll ZQM, back for a flame bitch? well dont twist my words, PLD could get Scorpion harness but I would suggest PLD af to be better, and no if yur gonna be a good PLD you would like to update your gear once every 10 lvls, but I cant expect you to know that all god ZQM.

my point is on the mark so dont come back actin like you have a good point just because your still pissed I dissed your lil Warrior class. b00 h00!!!

ZQM
12-31-2004, 01:31 PM
lol...

You do know that I was talking about Haubergeon for BST?

Let's see here...

You say "BSTs is cheaper then PLD"

I said "Haubergeon alone is going to be more expensive then leveling PLD to 75"

Common sense would say that *gasps* BST would be more then PLD because their body piece alone costs more then getting PLD to 75!

Learn to read. Oh wait, you aren't far enough in school to for that are you? I come to that conclusion considering your 'amazing' use of the English language in your posts. Don't worry, I'm sure you'll eventually pass the 1st grade. Well, that'd be asking a little much, but I don't want to crush your dreams.

And it's also funny that you call me a troll, considering every single one of your posts is flame bait.

How can you call me a troll after making a thread like this (http://ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50652)?

SkyWing_
12-31-2004, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by ZQM
Learn to read. Oh wait, you aren't far enough in school to for that are you? I come to that conclusion considering your 'amazing' use of the English language in your posts. Don't worry, I'm sure you'll eventually pass the 1st grade. Well, that'd be asking a little much, but I don't want to crush your dreams.


OMGZ FLAME!!!!

Hoto
12-31-2004, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by ZQM
Don't worry, I'm sure you'll eventually pass the 1st grade. Well, that'd be asking a little much, but I don't want to crush your dreams.

Wow, dont you feel big now.

If it makes you feel any better about your War is that after lvl 60 War becomes a 3rd rate Damage Dealer. I'm surprised you made it to level 75.

ZQM
12-31-2004, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by Skywing
I edited my post after I read the rest of your's, dip shit.

So you admit to posting something so stupid you have to edit it and take out parts, yet I'm the dipshit?

[quote]I'd take u seriously but this is comin from the guy who says WAR can outdamage RNG

And where did I say that?

I could get my TP bar up to 100% 3 times over with my samurai/ranger b4 you could even get it up to 50, dont u got other things to do then troll ppl?

Yes, your Samurai/GimpSubjob is so uber! I'm quaking in fear!

And I'm guessing after SAM/RNG you're going to go SAM/DRG and talk about how your Jump with Warding Circle owns all?

And your the troll here, I'm just to exterminate your kind.

Originally posted by Hoto
If it makes you feel any better about your War is that after lvl 60 War becomes a 3rd rate Damage Dealer. I'm surprised you made it to level 75.

If having amoung the top WS damage and top DoT...I'm afraid to know what 1st and 2nd rate are.

Oh wait, that's RNG and BLM.

Ok, I'm happy being 3rd and ahead of the others. :spin:

Stunna
12-31-2004, 01:48 PM
ZQM can just consider himself lucky hes on Pand server.

What does ZQM stand for? Thats your name? Unless your Arabac or something Zulo Quanda Mohammad?

C8-Sniper
12-31-2004, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by ZQM
Yes, your Samurai/GimpSubjob is so uber!

What do you mean "gimp"? Samurai/Ranger is the best combo you get Sidewinder at lvl 55+. With bows you get twice as fast TP than you would normally with Meditate and there Tp bonuses.

ZQM you must be retarded, theres no way your level 75, I think your just saying that to act big.

SkyWing_
12-31-2004, 03:56 PM
ZQM u just been 0wn3d bro, read and weap, votes dont lie.

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=497391#post497391

w33d [Do you have it?]

Cali
12-31-2004, 04:41 PM
Welcome to Gamefaqs forum!

ZQM, I am on your side~ *cheers*

What's wrong with you guys honestly? =/ this forum used to be the best I know for FF, now this is no different from a random playground for some cheapo flamethread starters... What? Can't get your point across without flaming? Can others not have a different view from you? Can you not make a post related to the topic, with a sensible comment without relating to other posters' job/char/real life(which you DEFINATELY have no idea about)...?

And here's a little happy note for you little flaming kids:

Originally posted by MassecreMaker
Im Talking Bout Basic Jobs

MassacreMaker is the post starter by the way, so this post is about basic jobs, which neither BST nor PLD is included, amen.

Unholy Prince
12-31-2004, 04:45 PM
Sky your such a freaking idiot... do you have nothing better to do then backup your false flaimbait claims by asking people in your LS to back you up, or probably make a second or third account to make yourself look more l33t? Neither you or your "backup" has any credibility on these forums, nor have presented themselves in a manner that would make anyone take their opinions seriously. Anyone who payed attention playing this game to the 70s know 3/4 of hte stuff your saying is BS, so stop trying to make yourself look smart and cool by posting your stupid claims. Everytime i see you post I just laugh because i know I am about to read something stupid. Yes, I realize your going to "flame" me and make me look stupid now, but I don't care. I normally don't go off on people like this, but you're actions are not funny, and they are sad. Get a job or something kid, or go back to school and learn how to talk in proper English. Winter break ends soon right? Make sure to tell your English teacher to give you basic grammar lessons again. Also tell your parents to stop spoiling the little rotten brat they've raised and to give you a few beatings you deserve. Just stop posting, your making yourself look more like an idiot. Go get some friends in RL.

Edit: agree Cali, I used to send friends to these forums for credible information, now i'm ashamed this has become as bad as Alla.

SkyWing_
12-31-2004, 05:13 PM
lmao, too drunk 2 flame XD

your rite Unholy Prince I make multiple accounts, and I give them all customized sigs, avatars, and I purchase the game multiple times just to confuse you! cuz I luve you that much ^^


happy new years! :thumbsup:

Olliey2k
01-01-2005, 06:24 AM
You need to buy 2 sets of equipment for playing BST effectivly, so i fail to see how it is the cheapest job.

Skywing, i hope to are above level 60 if your subbing RNG, because otherwise it is a gimp subjob. The only reason RNG is a good subjob for SAM is Meditate + Sidewinder, which does shitall for hate control, not to mention, without +++++ Ranged Accuracy, Sidewinder is gonna have real low hit %.

Every post of your i see is just flame bait >.<

Oh, and please explain to me why a PLD would be wearing a Scorpion Harness.

And thank you Unholy Prince, i agree with every word you said.

SkyWing_
01-01-2005, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by Olliey2k
You need to buy 2 sets of equipment for playing BST effectivly, so i fail to see how it is the cheapest job.

Skywing, i hope to are above level 60 if your subbing RNG, because otherwise it is a gimp subjob. The only reason RNG is a good subjob for SAM is Meditate + Sidewinder, which does shitall for hate control, not to mention, without +++++ Ranged Accuracy, Sidewinder is gonna have real low hit %.

Every post of your i see is just flame bait >.<

Oh, and please explain to me why a PLD would be wearing a Scorpion Harness.

And thank you Unholy Prince, i agree with every word you said.

yur so sexah when your upset ^^

Kalvin Klien
01-01-2005, 02:32 PM
Lol, Unholy Prince looks like ZQM's mule, isn't it a bit late in the day for having mules back you up ZQM? Accusing others of creating "mule" accounts is quite foolish, I just hate to see one person gang up on another, and in turn pretend to be multiple people.

I searched Unholy Prince's recent posts, it seems that when ever Skywing flame ZQM, Unholy Prince just "happens" to show up minutes after to help flame. I've also got some posts where you stated, and I quote "wow Nny you are smart". Normally it could be just a good-freind relationship, but to respond within minutes of Skywing's post seems "not likly".

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=496726#post496726

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=496241#post496241

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=496227#post496227

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=489040#post489040

(I would have found more but I believe 4 links is more than enough)


Tho this is all fiction, I've asked a Administrator to performe a IP check. I am not 100% sure of this, but if I'm correct, I no longer have any respect for you.

You turned this thread into a flame war by you knowing Skywing would get pissed at the sight of you "trolling" his posts. Then you return with a barrage of flames from multiple people, which is just you.

I'm not taking sides but I fail to see "flame bait" on his enitial post.

Ayia
01-01-2005, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Unholy Prince
or probably make a second or third account to make yourself look more l33t?

I'm sky's mule, he slaps me around when I dont back him up too ; ;

lol

SkywingzMule
01-01-2005, 02:47 PM
SKY DONT NEED MULEZ!! CUZ HES GOT MAH A$$ 2 BACK HIM UP NE DAY!!!! W000000T!

I'm not him by the way >.> <.< >.> <.<*cough*bullshit*uncough*

ZQM
01-01-2005, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by Kalvin Klien
Tho this is all fiction, I've asked a Administrator to performe a IP check. I am not 100% sure of this, but if I'm correct, I no longer have any respect for you.

I have nothing to hide, and that search will show nothing. But you should do a little more research.

For one, the majority of Palin's posts are in the BLM forum. I obviously don't have experience (http://www.pplsdbz.net/~zquestionmark/ffxi/job.JPG). And though you wouldn't know my job levels, that could be seen by the fact that I have hardly ever made a post in that forum.

Secondly, his avatar proves that Palin is a high level player on my server. Considering how many people post and view this board, somebody would say something to him. It'd be extremely stupid for somebody to impersenate a popular player on this board considering how somebody is going to talk to the original player about one of his posts.

You turned this thread into a flame war by you knowing Skywing would get pissed at the sight of you "trolling" his posts. Then you return with a barrage of flames from multiple people, which is just you.

I'm not taking sides but I fail to see "flame bait" on his enitial post.

My first post had no flame in it, as you can clearly see.

His post back to me was a flame. However, he edited it out.

Time of my second post: 12-31-04 06:31 PM
Time that he edited the post I responded to: Last edited by SkyWing_ on 12-31-04 at 06:33 PM

And he then edits his THIRD post which was ANOTHER flame at me.

Original time of his post: 06:38 PM
Edited time of his post: Last edited by SkyWing_ on 12-31-04 at 07:02 PM

Sky wing started it, then edits it all out to make it seem like I'm the bad guy. Might have been a good job if you didn't forget that it says you edited your post and when you did it at the bottom! :rolleyes:

Anyway, there's an any problem to this solution. User CP > Edit Ignore List > Add SkyWing_ and his mules. :spin:

Unholy Prince
01-01-2005, 06:10 PM
That picture of me might be when i was in my early 60s, but its still enough to prove my point. I don't think anyone would create and level a char up to 54 to wear the Shaman's Cloak to prove a point on a internet forum.

I am very real, but I've read everything Skywing and his little posse have posted on this forums, and when I see you attacking credible people on these forums, it irks me. That is why I "flamed" you.

It just so happens War is my second favourite job behind black mage, excuse me for viewing the War forums a lot to research a job I'm interested in playing, so I don't do something dumb like sub rng past 30. That perhaps is why I post there a lot, not because I'm Nny's mule. How silly.

SkyWing_
01-02-2005, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by ZQM
Sky wing started it!

lmao!

Cali
01-02-2005, 04:00 AM
A totally for-fun thread got ruined by you little kids...

Ignore them, ZQM and Unholy Prince, people been here long enough know you guys anyway, arguing with *****s only make you stupid.

Skywing_, honestly, for everytime I see your post, you call everyone a troll for having a different view from you... you start every post with a less-than-useful comment most of the time, then if someone say something, ask why you said that, etc, then you think the world is onto you... If you are being serious, you need to consult your doctor, you are paranoid. If you are just playing around, then... welcome, my dear gamefaqs forum's people.

Continue in your PM if you need, I would hate to see this thread closed because of some kid(s) being paranoid.

And no, please don't PM me, as I don't check it til X'mas, next year.

GSDragoon
01-02-2005, 09:19 AM
wow, people bashing ZQM. I've been in the WAR forums a lot. I plan to make WAR my secondary job once I level NIN and stop spening all my money on my DRG. ZQM posts are of great quality. He's always has great advice. Sure he may brag a bit at times, but who cares, we all do that.

By looking at SkyWing_'s profile, below his avatar, you can tell he's not serious at all. If you look at his previous posts, they are mostly garbage. Oh, and on a side note, SkyWing, how come you bought a multi-hundred piece of software and don't know how to use it? Oh, that's right, you pirated it. Please learn to use the erasers in Photoshop. Those extra white spots are VERY anoying, along with the blue text that is really hard to see in the dark grey/red theme.

Anyways, back on topic. As someone said before in another thread, "It all depends on how gimp you want to be." Sure I could level my WAR without NIN sub and crappy gear, but I'm choosing not to. I'm sure we've all seen it. Just down right crappily equipped players. Expecially if your an "in depand" job, you can get by being gimp. There is no such thing as "required" equipment. But there are jobs like NIN or RNG's that are expected to have geat gear. Only HQ weapons and armor, ect. You may consider them to be the expensive jobs, but I'd argue about that. Part of the reason why RNG is so good, is they geat all the great equipment. Let's take DRG, most people think they are gimp. Ignore the fact that our WS's suck, think earlier levels for this example. Imagine if most DRG's had HQ lances and armor, sniper's at lv40, ect. I'm sure the job's reputation would be MUCH better. You'd see this player with great acc and dishing out good dmg. If your going to compare the cost of jobs, you have to compare apples vs apples. Now, imagine a RNG with non-HQ gear to any other meele with regular gear. The RNG would suck. They would be missing too much. Every job could be equally expensive, but it's the reputation that makes people think other jobs are most expensive. On the high end, there are some exceptions. NIN/RNG spamming shurukins(sp?), for example. Most people can't afford that though.

SkyWing_
01-02-2005, 09:25 AM
OMGZ SKYWING'S TEXT OFENDS ME!! omg chill out kid not like any1 got shot over this....... yet... MWHAHAHAH!

Stinger
01-02-2005, 09:29 AM
Cali shut the fuck up literally!

This thread does'nt even consern you, by jumping into here yours and GS's dragoon's posts were the only flames I can even see on this thread, then you guys claim to be mature?? If you were mature you would'nt get so upset at what hes saying, its not even flames either and if this thread does get closed it's mainly because of Cali over-reacting.

Kalvin Klien
01-02-2005, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by GSDragoon
By looking at SkyWing_'s profile, below his avatar, you can tell he's not serious at all. If you look at his previous posts, they are mostly garbage. Oh, and on a side note, SkyWing, how come you bought a multi-hundred piece of software and don't know how to use it? Oh, that's right, you pirated it. Please learn to use the erasers in Photoshop. Those extra white spots are VERY anoying, along with the blue text that is really hard to see in the dark grey/red theme.


Umm... ok.... I fail to see the logic in this post but to piss him off? So you like to jump into flame wars and just shoot your mouth off randomly? Really you guys need to look at yourselfs before you can all anyone else "immature" or "rude". From this point of veiw you look like a bunch of Hypocrits which have nothing better to do than to spray a flame.

Smasholays
01-02-2005, 01:21 PM
Wow, I am literally embarrassed to be on the same servers as these morons.

Skywing, if you're so "gangsta" why don't you quit the bullshit luxurys of a computer, internet, ffxi and go live on the real streets instead of being a fucking poser? You're nothing more than a wannabe, and aren't you the person who put "I'll suck dick for EXP" in your comments? Pathetic.

Edit: How the hell is saying that "Haubergeon alone costs more than to level PLD to 75" a flame? If anyone else would have said it, I doubt this would even be here. You're calling them hypocrits? What the fuck are you dumbasses doing? The same exact thing.

Ayia
01-02-2005, 03:35 PM
errr.... lol! oh god.

Back on topic, I'd say Red Mage is the cheapest, because even if there gear is bad past lvl 41 as long as you have refresh and can enfeeble you still get a waterfall of invites. X.x

lol just take the holy water of "back on topic" and burn that flame out! lol :3

Kalvin Klien
01-05-2005, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Ayia
lol just take the holy water of "back on topic" and burn that flame out! lol :3

Lmao, nice analogy Ayia. :spin:

Chocobo Mazurka
01-14-2005, 11:55 AM
I believe monks. they can use food with options, but their armor options are not only small, but they're usually light and such. WAR requires heavy expensive armor and weapons, while MNK is simply not ^^.

With BLM and WHM, you use LOTSA gil just to pay for spells! some of which you may never use..

Icemage
01-15-2005, 12:22 AM
I think it really depends on the level range you're talking about:

Most every job except for Ninja is cheap in the 1-30 range (relatively speaking).

30-50, RDM takes a few hits in the form of Phalanx (unnecessary except for farming at this point), Dispel (expensive NPC scroll), and on some servers, Refresh could be somewhat expensive. WHM takes a money hit on Erase if they want to in this level range, though they can delay it if necessary. PLD, NIN, RNG, and all melees all have really useful, really expensive items in this range, if they want to spend the money (sniper's rings, strider boots, etc. etc. etc.). Ninja expenses increase as they get access to Utsusemi: Ni at 37, as well as some of the more esoteric ninjutsu like Kurayami: Ni.

50-60, armor costs drop to nearly zero for all jobs due to Artifact Armor. PLD's only expense in this level range is basically a nice weapon like Gluttony Sword. BLMs and SMN get to spend a big chunk of change on elemental staves in this range to be optimal, though you could get by with just a few if you're careful. WHM get to splurge on Raise II and Reraise II in this range.

At or after 60, each job has a bunch of optional gear which can greatly enhance their performance, so it really depends on how much you want to spend, not the job you're playing. Melees can get things like Scorpion Harness... mages can buy Vermillion Cloaks... every job has choices like this to make.

Honestly though, the entire point of this thread is pretty pointless - you should play the job you enjoy most, not base your decision on how much money you have to spend on it.


Icemage