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Thegod
11-12-2004, 07:22 AM
wow, i knew i had been running through gil like water, but omfg omfg almost a million gil in spells, this is heart breaking, i know everyone is gonna say i dont need the ancient magic, but whats the point of playing the game if im gonna gimp myself on abilities.

I mean a the non mage jobs just get their abilities when they hit a certain level (minus ninja of course) but no we blms purchase our, and it sucks.


not to mention that our AF is horrible!!!!!!!!

I am almost 54, like 3ktnl and i picked up some genius rings the other day, now im thinking, the boots are useless wiondy is alwasy number 1 on titan for the most part, and the tct. mgc. boots give me +4 int.

the rest seem to be overshadowed by gear i could get sooner, the only two pieces i'll keep for a while will be the hand and leg armor for their drk and elemebtal skill ups.

I wont even mention the Af weapon as most suck, but BLMs truely is useless, i can find absolutely no reason what-so0ever to ever equip that weapon.

Coinspinner
11-12-2004, 07:41 AM
/nod

I only bought Freeze and Burst and the only time I got asked to use an Ancient besides Freeze was because somebody wanted to see what Flare looked like.

Of course, now I need at least one more ancient for Maat, and all the ones I don't have are over 130k...

AtraposBLM
11-12-2004, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by Thegod
wow, i knew i had been running through gil like water, but omfg omfg almost a million gil in spells, this is heart breaking, i know everyone is gonna say i dont need the ancient magic, but whats the point of playing the game if im gonna gimp myself on abilities.

I mean a the non mage jobs just get their abilities when they hit a certain level (minus ninja of course) but no we blms purchase our, and it sucks.


not to mention that our AF is horrible!!!!!!!!

I am almost 54, like 3ktnl and i picked up some genius rings the other day, now im thinking, the boots are useless wiondy is alwasy number 1 on titan for the most part, and the tct. mgc. boots give me +4 int.

the rest seem to be overshadowed by gear i could get sooner, the only two pieces i'll keep for a while will be the hand and leg armor for their drk and elemebtal skill ups.

I wont even mention the Af weapon as most suck, but BLMs truely is useless, i can find absolutely no reason what-so0ever to ever equip that weapon.

BLM is not an inexpensive job m(_ _)m

As for AF - Windy is almost never in first, so I wore the boots until Errant. I wore the hat + body because I liked the look, and I didn't really miss the +2 int that Jaustacorp gave me (as opposed to wearing the body peice). The hands are the best peice of equipment for a BLM's hand's while leveling on anything higher than VT...period. Zenith Mitts sort of replace them at lv73, but that's only on mobs that you can land spells reliably on.

Yes, the weapon blows. Pretty much every single job can't use their AF1 weapon for more than a level or two, if at all (I think PLD is the exception...I seem to recall their AF1 not being too bad, but I could be thinking of something else). Meh...you stop using clubs almost entirely 9 levels from getting the club, so it's really not that big of a deal to not use it.


And btw - you really don't need to buy the ancient magic. It's almost never used...seriously. Freeze and burst are the only two you might consider buying...the rest are just for show. But meh...if you feel it makes you gimp, fix it. I never felt the need for them....so I don't feel gimped. I'll get them eventually....but eh, I don't like them in the first place.

Thegod
11-12-2004, 07:48 AM
ok, that makes me feel alot better about skipping some of those spells, i really would rather use that gil (assuming i'll even have it) for my rse belt, thats my number one thing right now, your a mithra too, i know you know 30 mp and 2 int in your waist slot is very good.

i got tornado because i've never seen it used, i never saw freeze used untill i used it, witch will probably be the case since the level 74 blm in my static doesnt even have any ancient magic besides freeze (dont ask me how he beat maat i have no clue, but i know he spends all his gil or gear)

...and all his time going for the aburation gear, i think its zenith, he has none of it, but i keep hearing them talking about him getting some zenith something or other.

AtraposBLM
11-12-2004, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by Coinspinner
/nod

I only bought Freeze and Burst and the only time I got asked to use an Ancient besides Freeze was because somebody wanted to see what Flare looked like.

Of course, now I need at least one more ancient for Maat, and all the ones I don't have are over 130k...


Burst -> Freeze -> Firaga III

Maat go to died. No expensive AM bought. ^^;

Thegod
11-12-2004, 08:00 AM
freeze and burst huh, dam so 120 wasted on tornado already /sadness

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4ce29b3127ccea8709e4bb4cf0000001610

^^ pic of my rng in garl. i am trying to find a pic of my blm that isnt so drk, but they all come over sooooo dark (in contrast i mean)

Coinspinner
11-12-2004, 11:14 AM
Tornado debuffs against Ice iirc, so for you, Tornado >> Freeze >> Firaga 3 should give you the best odds. That was my plan anyway. Tornado looks coolest out of all the ancients anyway. :p

Thegod
11-12-2004, 02:11 PM
isnt funny how the wind magics always look the coolest, i got stonegaII and was like wow, its cool stones coming from all angles and crashing down in the middle, very cool.


...then i get watergaII and im thinking, ok a big wave or something, and its a drop of water that falls in the middle, and makes this lame arse nose.


..ok so then i get aerogaII and its a huge whirling wind, definately the coolest looking non ancient magic i had before stone3<---i always love stone spells because of FF7 when seph and cloud were battling at the very beging of the game seph used stone4 and it was uber looking.

AtraposBLM
11-12-2004, 04:41 PM
I agree, the stone spells are some of the cooler looking spells that BLM's get. Stone IV definately looks pretty sweet, while I was dissappointed by Fire IV, and Thunder IV (although the Thunder line in general looks fairly weak, aside from Thundaga II/III).

Mits-
While yes, Tornado -> Freeze -> Firaga III would work better, my way works perfectly fine (plus, its more likely that you have Ice, Thunder, Fire staves than Wind, Ice, Fire), and is cheaper. But it's up to you :P

mdn
11-12-2004, 05:52 PM
blizzard iv is still the coolest looking and sounding spell in the game.

i kinda like blizzaga3 and thundaga3 too :thumbsup:

TheMidg
11-12-2004, 06:31 PM
Not everyone beats Maat at 68+ =O

AtraposBLM
11-13-2004, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by TheMidg
Not everyone beats Maat at 68+ =O

Burst -> Freeze -> Waterga III. I tried it at lv66, and would've won (assuming Waterga III landed for more than 180 damage, which it should have, seeing as I had a borrowed Water Staff), but I disconnected mid-cast. Same thing as the firaga III.

Thegod
11-15-2004, 07:48 AM
WOW BLM EVE HAVE A CHANCE TO BEAT MAAT BEFORE LEVEL 70?

oops caps

i just naturally assumed that you had to be level 70 to even attempt a maat fight

mdn
11-15-2004, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by Thegod
WOW BLM EVE HAVE A CHANCE TO BEAT MAAT BEFORE LEVEL 70?

oops caps

i just naturally assumed that you had to be level 70 to even attempt a maat fight i beat him at 66 before i capped any of my magic and without a belt, so yeah you can beat him before 70.

Tetsura
11-15-2004, 10:57 AM
Freeze -> Flare -> Waterga III

Do it on Ice day or Dark day to save yourself some hassle, pretty much guarenteed win.

Thegod
11-15-2004, 11:09 AM
Ok my question is what buffs did you guys go into the battle with?

just curious, i mean were you blinked, aquavielled, stoneskined, phallanx?, shell?

i mean those two ancient magics would take a while to cast, wouldnt you get interupted long before you cast your first anceit spel;l..

or does maat try to cast ancient magic too?

AtraposBLM
11-16-2004, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by Thegod
Ok my question is what buffs did you guys go into the battle with?

just curious, i mean were you blinked, aquavielled, stoneskined, phallanx?, shell?

i mean those two ancient magics would take a while to cast, wouldnt you get interupted long before you cast your first anceit spel;l..

or does maat try to cast ancient magic too?

You do the maat fight sans subjob. That means the only buff you can use as a blm is Blaze/Ice/Shock spikes. The whole idea is that you can't let Maat hit you. If he does...you're pretty much fucked. So, you run up to him, and outside his aggro range, you cast freeze (or whichever AM you're casting furst). He aggro's you when you cast freeze, but you follow freeze up with an elemental Seal'd Sleep II. Then you do AM 2 of your choice. When that wakes him up (or before your second AM), you manafont, stun, and do your 3rd spell. Land 3 big damage spells and you win.

Thegod
11-16-2004, 11:03 AM
heh, i was wondering how you guys made it sound so easy to cast two Ams on someone who ive heard is really difficult to beat.

maybe because red mages have the hardest fight (or so i hear) but the red mage in my LS was crying for weeks about the maat fight.

anyway great info guys, plunked out some more levels, finished G2, im steam rolling to level 60 it seems like.

Oh and when is the moldavite earring a must, i still dont feel like buggin any LS friends to come and camp this guy for 2-4 hours.

I'm 54 ATM still havent doesnt AF2, i fgured i could but i can probably hit 55-56 by weeks end if i dont have any untimely deaths.


oh last question, when are the other elemtal staffs a must have? I currently only have the four, aquillos plutos a thunder staff i got for a steal 30k, and a wind staff i just got last night to see how effective tornado was with a wind staff equiped.

Tetsura
11-16-2004, 11:13 AM
Try and get Moldavite by lvl 60. With the III spells you'll notice the damage diference.

AtraposBLM
11-16-2004, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by Thegod
heh, i was wondering how you guys made it sound so easy to cast two Ams on someone who ive heard is really difficult to beat.

maybe because red mages have the hardest fight (or so i hear) but the red mage in my LS was crying for weeks about the maat fight.

anyway great info guys, plunked out some more levels, finished G2, im steam rolling to level 60 it seems like.

Oh and when is the moldavite earring a must, i still dont feel like buggin any LS friends to come and camp this guy for 2-4 hours.

I'm 54 ATM still havent doesnt AF2, i fgured i could but i can probably hit 55-56 by weeks end if i dont have any untimely deaths.


oh last question, when are the other elemtal staffs a must have? I currently only have the four, aquillos plutos a thunder staff i got for a steal 30k, and a wind staff i just got last night to see how effective tornado was with a wind staff equiped.

Most important Staves for BLM:
1. Ice
2. Dark
3. Thunder
4. Fire
5. Water
6. Wind
7. Earth

The last 3 are kind of interchangeable. HQ's are obviously preferable.

Sadeira
11-16-2004, 04:09 PM
fortunately, blms have the easiest maat fight

i would also bring along a vile elixer+1 in case of an emergency...

case in point: maat is almost dead, you have reraise up but you mess up and die...

so you reraise, quaff your elixer, and throw out the next big damage spell so you can finish off that old man once and for all.

and if you don't use your elixer, more power to you since you get back that 50k

AtraposBLM
11-16-2004, 09:12 PM
In order to have reraise up, you'd have to have a reraiser. Personally, I would rather not take 3k exp lost just to *try* and beat Maat again. Plus, a Vile Elixer +1 doesn't restore enough MP to use a spell, so you'd end up resting, and most likely wasting your money anyways. I guess you could bring it for an emergency, but the time I lost, I doubt a VE+1 would've helped me any - the reason things go wrong is maat does something REALLY uncool, generally without you being able to respond:

Case in point:
Maat resists your sleep. He casts Stun > Sleep > Tornado. After tornado, he hits you for 300, 300. You're pretty much dead no matter what. Or he could Stun > Sleep > Poison/Bind/Blind/Water/Stone/etc. you. It's pretty much up to Maat if you win or not. If you get big damage spells...you're probably in trouble, unless they coincide with your Eseal sleep or stun. If you get harmless spells, you've most likely one. Maybe a VE+1 would help, but I'd save the money. But hey...it couldn't hurt.

Thegod
11-17-2004, 07:41 AM
wow guys, thnx alot.

I have a question for coinspinner since he is also a mithran.

I just spent 720k on a desert stone (my rse mage best for level 50) +30 mp +2 int +3 mnd wait slot item.

I've been told by a few level 75s that i just wasted a ton of gil for nothing, i mean is it me or was this a much better choice then one morion earring+1 witch cost the same amount of gil.

I mean it took me 7 BCNM 50s to get the gil for this item, i would hate to think i just wasted a ton of time and gil.

Oh and tornado is so cool, i must say again, i went to valkrum and casted it by the beach (yeah i usually dont waste time showing off, but i was helping a friend with bard quest so meh whatever) I sooooooo wish someone had done this before so i could see an Am in action, everyone was so juiced, it was pretty cool.

Oh and i hear quake is a huge waste of gil, all the rest of the AMs are like 120-130, but i hear flood flare and burst are the only ones i should waste my time on if i'm gonna get anymore period


someone here said tornado>>>>freeze>>>firagraII would whoop maat if i got em all off.


oh anmd whoever said fastcast wasnt worth subbing red, come on, my AM cast at 70% isnt that substantial?

Coinspinner
11-17-2004, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by Thegod
wow guys, thnx alot.

I have a question for coinspinner since he is also a mithran.

I just spent 720k on a desert stone (my rse mage best for level 50) +30 mp +2 int +3 mnd wait slot item.

I've been told by a few level 75s that i just wasted a ton of gil for nothing, i mean is it me or was this a much better choice then one morion earring+1 witch cost the same amount of gil.

I mean it took me 7 BCNM 50s to get the gil for this item, i would hate to think i just wasted a ton of time and gil.

Jungle Stone. You are not a Galka. :p

You can't really 'waste' money on equipment unless the price drops a lot. I would not bother unless I had a full set of staves and a scroll for every spell to 75. Also, the rope at lvl 70 is cheaper and better imo.

Originally posted by Thegod
oh anmd whoever said fastcast wasnt worth subbing red, come on, my AM cast at 70% isnt that substantial?

You have the melee start the SC ~1 second sooner than a BLM/WHM. Hooray. The only other time to use Ancients is against Maat, where you have no subjob. Fast Cast 1 is weak.

Thegod
11-17-2004, 09:32 AM
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?fitem=3845

i meant jungle stone oops

anyway yeah 80k vs 720k is a big difference, levels 54-70 will take me quite some time to get, with me doing afs in between, helping LS members, and all sorts of farming/crafting/BCNMing.

i have wind, thunder, aquillos, and plutos, i dont cast any spells of any other element at the moment in exp parties, but if you really think HQ staffs in all the elements would be better i have to seriously concider that.

I have all spells to level 60, minus the AMs because i wasnt sure witch would be worth it.

Quake i hear is a huge waste so i'll wait till after i hit lvl 60 to get that one, but i should have enough from my cuttings/saplings harvest next week to get a couple more staffs.

So HQ staffs over the best equip i can have at my level???

thanx alot coin and everyone i feel like a n00b again, i should slow down leveling a little.

Thegod
11-17-2004, 09:43 AM
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?fitem=3845

i meant jungle stone oops

anyway yeah 80k vs 720k is a big difference, levels 54-70 will take me quite some time to get, with me doing afs in between, helping LS members, and all sorts of farming/crafting/BCNMing.

i have wind, thunder, aquillos, and plutos, i dont cast any spells of any other element at the moment in exp parties, but if you really think HQ staffs in all the elements would be better i have to seriously concider that.

I have all spells to level 60, minus the AMs because i wasnt sure witch would be worth it.

Quake i hear is a huge waste so i'll wait till after i hit lvl 60 to get that one, but i should have enough from my cuttings/saplings harvest next week to get a couple more staffs.

So HQ staffs over the best equip i can have at my level???

thanx alot coin and everyone i feel like a n00b again, i should slow down leveling a little.

Nodoka
11-17-2004, 11:53 AM
>Most important Staves for BLM:
1. Ice
2. Dark
3. Thunder
4. Fire
5. Water
6. Wind
7. Earth
The last 3 are kind of interchangeable. HQ's are obviously preferable.


IMO Wind should be higher up there. Its only decent in strength and usage.. however I got one because all my wind spells will be gimp without one. I use Ice staff for Water and Earth spells (because I dont have those staves), but you cant do that for Aero spells. Ice Staff kicks Wind Spells asses, so if you ever wanted to cast Wind element spells, you pretty much need the staff or else youd lose the +15 ele skill from ice, or else get a big cut in damage.

Coinspinner
11-17-2004, 01:04 PM
My order... and reasoning.

Ice Staff is what you'll use on spells that you don't yet have staves for, and on Ice spells, the most commonly used element in the game.

Dark Staff vastly speeds your MP recovery.

Thunder Staff boosts the most powerfull spell in the game. Thunder is also a very common enemy weakness.

Earth Staff is good for 60-62 when you fight Torama, for soloing staff/evasion skillups, and when grouped with lousy tanks. ;P

Fire Staff is good for Firaga III, and... uh... wait, when else do we use fire? Hmmph. Oh well, Firaga III is a good burst for a while.

Wind Staff ungimps your Aero line, and imo more importantly, Silence. Critters weak to wind are usually also weak to some other element at your disposal.

Light Staff makes our Cures look less gimp; you might even get Cure III to heal 190! And we can Charm better as BLM/BST! Oh, wait...

Water Staff helps when... um... I think I used Waterga III a few times... hmm. Even WHM don't benefit from the Divine Skill bonus, since they'd just use the Light Staff for Banishes. Currently I use this when casting Stoneskin for a touch more MND. :/

Yeah, these staves and their HQs are basically the best purchases until the Iggy-whatever Weskit imo.

Blood Red Poet
11-17-2004, 02:28 PM
not to mention that our AF is horrible!!!!!!!!

I disagree.

Hat and Hands are great. Body is good. Legs and Boots are okay.

And why are you buying ancients? Don't see a point after freeze and burst.

Thegod
11-18-2004, 09:26 AM
Ok i said i wasnt gonna bother with any Afs, but i had never been to the sanoy lands of xarcsomethingorother and when my level 72 plly friend heard i hadnt done any he demanded i do it with him last night, so i'm all finished with Af1, i started AF2 went to CN got the bag o seeds, and now for the hard part.


I'm gonna wear the boots because i'd only loose one INT (currently wearing garrison boots when not in control, and tct mgc boots when windy is #1)

I also got my garl. coffer key, just need to find a coffer, so before yesterday i hadnt started any Afs, but now im done with one and halfway finished with two more (granted i have the hard part to finish but still)


"why am i bother with AMs" you dont see the point?

I am level 54 BLM, i cant possibly EXP all the time, i dont farm anymore now that i got a couple more mules and filled up the mog houses with pots growing saplings/cuttings, so i dont need to farm really, its slow gil, but it comes in huge chunks.

I bought the AMs to have fun with, i mean i had never seen freeze cat untill i got it, i had never seen tornado cast untill i cast it, i still have yet to see any of the other Ams cast, and i probably wont untill i buy em.

maybe you guys dont care about it, but its kinda cool, i mean i cast tornado on a mandy in east sara and the new guys were going crazy....lol

Blood Red Poet
11-19-2004, 02:26 PM
You confuse me. You want to get spells that cost more time to get and you will use less than the armor you don't want to get? Just get your AF... which I see you are doing.

Also... why waste money on the Ancient Spells... when you need to spend a couple thousands on Elemental Staves. I don't know... I am on Midgardsormr. Things are hard here.

Thegod
11-19-2004, 02:45 PM
I have all the staffs i need for leveling ATM, and even one i dont (wind, no mobs in boy tree we fight are week to wind, so i dont really cast aero unless i need to spam spells to hurry for chain 5)


I am spending gil on AMs, because i play the game for fun, like i said i have never seen any of the AMs cast that i dont have, and its cool to see/show them off to myself and others.

I cast tornado on a mandy when no one is around, just for fun, to see the whirly winds....lol


yeah things are hard, but i garden, so its really on time that i need to make gil, sometimes alot of time, but then like last night, im low on gil now and cant harvest anything till next friday, so i'll just try to get Afs and coffer hunts done in the meantime.

or go level war so i can level nin more for my rng.

i dunno, ams are cool, i have yet to use tornado in an exp party, and i doubt i will, i havent used freeze in an exp party since level 51 or early 52, dont recall, but its been a while, i wish i never bought freeze because its not a "pretty" spell...lol but hey it was 30k

...oh and how do i need my Af boots? they dont give any INT, they give only -1 em, IMO they are worthless, but i'll get em because i have to to get my Af hat. I think i posted this, but i use garriosn boots when windy isnt number 1, and the tct.mgc. boots+2 when windy is number, thats +1 and +4 int respectively, witch is better then -1 em. and -20 spell interupt.


hey to each his/her own, but i've had all the basic gear since level 36 (wisdoms morions since 35 or so) so really all i need is the fire, earth, and lastly completely in the back of my mind the water staff.

I have about 340k on me, but buying two of those staffs would break me, and i dont wanna be broke just to show off i have all the staffs even though i wont be using.


I use the wind staff to skill up staff skill, and the +10 evasion really helps, but other then that i dont see how i need anything? well High level help babysitting me through the rest of my AFs would be nice ^^

Blood Red Poet
11-20-2004, 07:15 AM
You will need Fire Staff... and do you have Thunder? I am guessing you have Ice and Dark. Buy your AMs now, but later on, when you need to farm 300K you will regret it.

Thegod
11-20-2004, 08:42 AM
I just got a fire and water staff last night, even though now i only have 89k left =(

yeah i already had a thunder staff they are really cheap.

I still feel the fire staff is a waste as i dont think i'll be casting fireII in exp parties or watter II save for the occasion MB when we cant do a distortion SC <---my personal favorite(lol like i ever cast aeroII and the wind staff was my third one)

anyway all i need is a earth and light staff (still not sure why everyone tells me to get a light staff, i dont see myself using it at all)

dam whatever happened to the exp tnl going up by 1k, it went up by 3k, thats crazy, im almost to level 55, but 16k tnl, i gotta get used to this...lol

I have STILL yet to see another blm my level with all these staffs, and no1 has tornado they all say its a waste untill i cast it and then its like wow thats the coolest looking spell.

I have yet to use it in an exp party, and the only time i use freeze is when we have two BLM, and i can afford to rest that extra couple a ticks.

Ok so spells are taken care of, staffs are almost (pretty much taken care of) taken care of, and now i wanna know are HQ staffs needed?

I mean i got roasted by a taru with identical gear (minus my 720k rse belt) because he said i should have HQ staffs when all he has is plutos and aquillos.

^^ tarus hate me for some reason, i never check anyone, and the only mention of my gear comes on boards like these when asking for advice.

Xodia
11-20-2004, 09:49 AM
im really not up to those lvls, and sorry to interrupt the AF/AM conversation.....just need to know something....HoW THe CRaP DoeS eVeRYoNe GeT So MuCH Gil!!??!?!?!?!?! I Am Struggling For Friking 15K At lvl 42 RDM.... AND I Dont Even Have Phalanx.

Blood Red Poet
11-20-2004, 09:56 AM
Well... I get mine from fishing, farming, and at once mining. Farming beastmen blood from leeches and fangs from tigers are good examples of farming.


EDIT: You are not thinking ahead. Soon you will be bursting thundaga, firaga, and blizzaga all the time. Thats why those three are vital. And no... don't get a Light Staff ^^;;. Unless you plan on taking RDM, SMN, BRD, or WHM next to +50 or something.

Thegod
11-22-2004, 07:02 AM
Ok blood, picked up an earth staff last night, and it makes skilling up staff skill so much easier.

I saw quake while.....finishing AF2<---yeah buddy, and it looks stupid so i'll pass on that one, i saw burst too, and that also looks stupid, but its fire so i'll probably get that one.

tornado is still the coolest looking spell.


I also got my garl. coffer key, found the coffer got my arm gaurd from ther coffer (helps tons to have a garl. map, and a map of coffer locations) so now all i need to do is beat dark spark =(

Coinspinner
11-22-2004, 08:19 AM
Burst = lightning. Reminds me of Trine from FF7.

Thegod
11-22-2004, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by Coinspinner
Burst = lightning. Reminds me of Trine from FF7.

Oh yeah almost forgot, i was just chatting while the 75 plly and BLM from my LS were killing the deamons, and we and my other blm friend were killing eyes while we waited, we got aggro, so i had to sleepgaII them, and the level 75 BLM, was like i dont even have that spell.

is sleepgaII a mandatory spell or did i waste 150k??

yeah i havent seen the lightning one, but it only cost 10k...lol dont ask my why i have no clue.

Patchinko
11-22-2004, 09:54 AM
If you're going to do many of the late level BCs, you'll need Sleepga II (BCs are arguably the best way to make money, especially on BLM). It's often the only spell that can sleep some of the monsters in these, including Lullaby. So yes, I think it's useful.

Tetsura
11-22-2004, 10:52 AM
If your going to be doing Dynamis you'll definately want Sleepga II also for trains/multiple avatars/etc.

Blood Red Poet
11-26-2004, 10:14 AM
Three spells change BLMs(more so than nukes): Sleep, Warp(and Warp II), and Sleepga II. Any BLM who doesn't have Sleepga II is very gimped... and if they don't have it +65, it is like a level 60 PLD with level 40 gear.

Thegod
11-29-2004, 11:16 AM
WELL I GOT IT, AND NOW THAT IM 55 1 XP TNL (LOL)

I'm soooo pissed i wasted gil on the Ams, i mean yeah they were fun, got a lot of oohhs and ahhhs, but dam now im back to lvling rng untill my LS does G2, and im going through gil like a madman(forgot how exspensive rng was) my gil is always short now, and i was seriously debating selling some of my ele staffs since dam near no1 has em anyway (the other ones ice, earth, fire, water, and thunder)

but i couldnt do that, i love proving tarus wrong when they say all BLM needs are ice and drk staffs (i've had to switch to blm like 7-10 times just this holiday weekend to prove to these retarded tarus that ele staffs effect damage more then 5 int.

anyway, i still love BLM, its great to have a job with about 600MP for PLing or PLing or, umm yeah...oh and casting tornado so a level 70 blm can see what it looks like ^^

Kosy
12-02-2004, 05:51 PM
Here's my take on AM spells ...

Most of the other spells you'll get eventually (IIIs and -ga IIs) will pony up the damage within the range of what an AM spell does for less MP. This is important. Plus, AMs take a long time to cast. Now, I'm not saying that AMs are terrible to own, but for practicality, you can do much much better.

IMO, save the money and get yourself equipment that will benefit you even more. Like all the elemental staves +1 versions. These could effectively amplify your current spells to output damage like an AM and still cost less in MP usage.

Thegod
12-03-2004, 09:14 AM
just thought i'd give a lil recap after having a few of the AMs for a while now...

they are all a waste, even freeze, im soo pissed should listen to you guys they were fun to show off, but im not even a show off type of player, i dunno why i thought i wanted to show off, but tornado had me infatuated with cool swirly lines.

someone asked me to freeze burst the NMs and thats the only time i use it for NM fights when im one of 5 BLMs or more.

AMs suck, they need to give BLM something, they force us to get a bunch of elemental staffs, there is no cool looking gear untill 73..shaman's cloak, i got it (had never seen one before if you can beleive that) ITS WHITE AND PINK WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

omg that thing is hideous and im embarrased to even wear it around town.


anyway my rng is almost level 50, so i'll be saving for E.bow in the mean time, i'm trying my hardest not to sell the 2-3 some odd mil i have in BLM gear, but meh i dunno rng is the greatest job ever (when i dont have to pull) when im puller its still hella fun job

anyway good luck to you guys, i still wanna hit 73 blm, but not before 70 rng it looks like (hellfire baby) 73 blm for irriqa gear.

Coinspinner
12-03-2004, 02:24 PM
Shaman's is purdy. :(

Thegod
12-30-2004, 01:17 PM
HAD TO go back to blm, turns out i need to finish the AF hands quest in order to start it for my ranger ...lol

so dark spark here i come...

Echo
01-04-2005, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by Thegod
ITS WHITE AND PINK WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I like the shaman's... the black cloak makes me look like a korrigan...

w33man
02-20-2005, 08:45 AM
lol i was reading the frist page of the thread and damn i mean i like blm mage now and want to take it all the way but shoot thats gona be like farming for years befor i have all my spells :eek:

CarbonFibre
02-20-2005, 07:46 PM
Just remember that if you like the Shaman's cloak that much, your Ranger can equip it when you get to that level also.

;)