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kazuri
11-07-2004, 04:24 AM
Been wanting to ask this for quite sometime.
It seems no one in the Black Mage section has ever talked about daggers, to my knowledge at least. I might've missed some threads, but I doubt it. Thing is... do you fellow Black Mages use daggers? Ever at all? Do you like it?
Me, I was obsessed with the Combat Caster's set at lv40, it was what inspired me to grind and hit 40 quickly. I bought the dagger for the hell of it, that's my first dagger ever. It's delay was impressive, quicker then my current Solid Wand, it was BLUE and SHINY, it's dmg was much better, etc. From then on, I got a Darksteel Baselard, upgraded into a Darksteel Kris, etc. During farming sessions, I've always used dagger (THF sub; gives access to Cyclone and other goodies), lower delay spam Cyclone went more well with -ga spells then high delay Earth Crusher; that was my though. It also looked kinda cool, always having a staff on my back looked dull at times. I know we have a D rating, and compared to a Staff's B-, it sucks badly, but... -o-
Anyways, BLMs post your thoughts. D;/
magnius
11-07-2004, 07:52 AM
I also really like using daggers, with thf or rdm sub its great for farming since you get access to some other weapon skills. I usually either use scythe or dagger for farming but dagger is so much more fun. Now that i'm using rdm though it's even more fun with haste + hornetneedle.
I dont have much motivation to lvl it much further though since unfortunatly only thf main gets any good skills between cyclone and evisceration. What sucks even more is that even at 75 blm cant get evisceration, fortunatly rdm can at 73 so I will probrably lvl it further. :)
i use an Argent Dagger just to play with while doing whatever. i like subbing rdm and using enspells.
Kaita
11-07-2004, 09:39 AM
energy drain/steal is overshadowed by spirit taker, imo. earth crusher easily pwns cyc for blm as it has an int modifier instead of agi?/dex?. i *do* enjoy running up to things in kazham and going "SATAviper!" and people will turn around and go "wtf j00 r blm...orz...or something."
blm/nin is my dual poking sub of choice. truthfully though, i can't find any kind of credible combat use for it. welp. the rating is STILL higher than scythe :/
Coinspinner
11-07-2004, 08:54 PM
Rating doens't mean a whole lot for farming... and there's not much point meleeing against things that give exp (past lvl 12 or so...)
Anyway... I always killed faster with a staff and hate the gimpy mithra dagger animation. And daggers are expensive. Sold on staves. :p
SephirothYuyX
11-08-2004, 07:08 AM
Dagger is nothing more then to show off, same with Scythe.
You just cant beat a staff~
kazuri
11-09-2004, 01:05 AM
Style~
Black Cloak + Dual Darksteel Kris = sexy
Combat Caster's Cloak + Dual Combat Caster's Dagger = sexy
Staves can't beat D;//
Coinspinner
11-09-2004, 05:27 PM
It's true that daggers have a certain flair...
http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=482698
Edit: Added IMG tag.
Edit2: Just realized I could have used the argent dagger model and a running pose on the left. ><;
Coinspinner
11-09-2004, 06:55 PM
But staves ain't half bad either. :p
http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=482710
Ok... too far. :(
Edit: The IMG thang, man.
Kaita
11-09-2004, 07:59 PM
Rating doens't mean a whole lot for farming
well a crappy rating...and a slowass weapon...means...
[Please play Dark Knight to skillup this weapon.]
Me and my mandibular scythe have a serious love/hate relationship...you don't know how many times i've put her on AH, just to take her off... she skills maybe once every day...501 delay... maybe i'll get a .1, while my friend is running around swinging a B weapon getting .3 .3 .2 .3...
btw coinspinner, what item sprite are the pants in the cloak 'n dagger pic? silk? ...i must have them.
kazuri
11-10-2004, 12:48 AM
hm yea lol I wasn't saying Staves look terrible, I loved myself when I had C.C. set + Ice Staff, but after using them so much in EXP PT's, I'm saying it's a nice switch. Wasn't trying to compare them, just was wondering if other people liked daggers. Energy Drain/Steal has NOTHING on Spirit Taker, it does DMG and gives MP, etc. Looks good, can't beat. Never. Ever. :spin:
Yes, that seems to be Silk Slacks, lv63. Goes really well with Shaman's Cloak o_o;;
Coinspinner
11-10-2004, 06:07 AM
Yup, silk slacks and cloak. You'll need to have them crafted as they're never sold. They may be made for skillup, not a cloth man, but I've never seen any in stock.
AtraposBLM
11-10-2004, 08:26 AM
speaking of matching clothing and such,
Anyone know a pair of pants wearable by BLM that match the Onoko Yukata?
Or
What does everyone think looks cool around town? I'm trying to find a cool looking outfit that matches (mainly). The only 3 peices I care to change are Body, Pants, Hat, with a possible inclusion of weapons. Being a taru, the other parts of outfits really don't match much. Currently:
1 of 5 staves, or Mandibular Scythe (I have the Abyssal Earring....might as well use the +5 scythe, right? :P)
Pumpkin Head II
Onoko Yukata
Errant Legs
I was trying to find a pair of blue pants to wear with the Yukata, but I couldn't find any. I also don't like the look of the Errant Houppelande, and personally, if I'm gonna wear a cloak, I'm gonna wear Black Cloak (the only one, imo, that looks half as cool is Vermillion, and I'm not paying 3 million gil just to look cool). What's everyone else wearing?
Sadeira
11-10-2004, 11:36 AM
want blue pants? try wool slops :P
Coinspinner
11-10-2004, 12:08 PM
I wear what you see in the staff pics...
AF Hat / Fungus Hat
Savage Seperate
AF pants
AF shoes
Fire Staff
I've been told it's "teh ugleh", but they can blow me, I think it's hawt. I have black cloak now and think it's even uglier than the tunic model we all wore 8-40 (some even past that) before CoP. I never got a Shaman's Cloak, which loks great on my Mithra... never enough friends online. I'll get a silk one to make up for that. :p
When I get home from work I'll mess with the model viewer to see what a BLM can wear with the Yukata.... I'm thinking Errant or T.M. slops with a Demon Helm. (Yeah... I have no sense for Taru fashion. :p)
Sadeira
11-10-2004, 03:17 PM
black cotehardie, wizard's petasos, custom hume f pants, custom hume f boots...
you haven't seen tacky till you've seen that :P
Kaita
11-11-2004, 03:00 AM
yukata+martial slack sprite = ultimate island gear.
girls can mix it up adding the head corsage...badass.
i was asking about the pants cuz shaman's + AF pants is just...wrong. I have an itching feeling that druid slops will look even more wrong.
what i actually had for a while...
the WHOLE T.M. set.
rapier of choice (wise wizard bilbo kthx)
clothcraft glasses :D
this outfit is just snappy. you look even higher rank than aketon+slacks pld :3
Coinspinner
11-11-2004, 11:05 AM
Pro Tip: Don't ask a tasteless Mithra to dress your Taru. You're just lucky BLM can't use subligar. I've commited some real atrocities with the model viewer.
http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=483210
Modelviewer + Photoshop = hours of fun.
AtraposBLM
11-11-2004, 11:11 AM
hmmmmm, looks like I might have to buy a Demon Helm and Wool Slops:
Demon Helm + Errant for one look
Wool Slops + Pumpkin Hat for another
Those Darksteel Kukri look pretty sweet - are those expensive? I can't sign on atm....so just wondering ^^;
Coinspinner
11-11-2004, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by Sadeira
black cotehardie, wizard's petasos, custom hume f pants, custom hume f boots...
you haven't seen tacky till you've seen that :P
Mithra have a similar problem.
http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=483234
The next person to make a crack about "mithran kneepads" dies a fiery death.
Coinspinner
11-11-2004, 11:56 AM
We can't use kukri, but the darksteel kris is like 60k on Cerberus.
Originally posted by AtraposBLM
hmmmmm, looks like I might have to buy a Demon Helm and Wool Slops:
Demon Helm + Errant for one look
Wool Slops + Pumpkin Hat for another
Those Darksteel Kukri look pretty sweet - are those expensive? I can't sign on atm....so just wondering ^^; buy an argent dagger for 7k. it's scary looking.
kazuri
11-11-2004, 07:16 PM
Daggers with Kris-style are sexy; C.C. is blue, goes well with... C.C. set. Darksteel Kris goes well with BLM AF or Black Cloak, etc. Never seen Argent or Orichalum so meh. -o- I'm guessing from posts that Argent is decent-good and I would think that Orichalum/Triton's look sexy.
wolfjorg
11-12-2004, 05:47 AM
lol those do look like cool knee pads lol j/k
Laehn
11-12-2004, 09:02 AM
Staff is a very powerful weapon i must say and they can be very intimidating in ballista when some little taru starts chasing after me with full swing fully charged and ready to massacre me. I dont have much to fear from a blm in ballista with a dagger, i can just interrupt their spells. But that tiny taru running after me with a staff scares me half to death.
AtraposBLM
11-13-2004, 10:53 AM
I bought an Argent Dagger last night for 7k gil. It looks pretty cool, and something about it is pretty funny (3-4 mobs, and I got lv40 dagger skill o.O). Meh...I'll probably sell it back in a day or two, after I get a few more pictures with it.
kazuri
11-14-2004, 10:54 PM
Hm, is the coller of Argent Black, Atrapos? If so... seems exactly the same as Darksteel Kris... <<
AtraposBLM
11-15-2004, 05:19 AM
Originally posted by kazuri
Hm, is the coller of Argent Black, Atrapos? If so... seems exactly the same as Darksteel Kris... <<
It's a blue-ish/black-ish color, depending on how you looked at it. Mainly, it looked black. I would give you a more definitive answer, but I put mine back on the AH already ; ;
Taru weapons just don't look as cool as other race's ; ;
Well...unless you like the whole toothpick thing.
Coinspinner
11-15-2004, 12:51 PM
Argent = Silver
That's some dirty silver. -_-;
Sadeira
11-15-2004, 01:55 PM
wow, argent dagger looks a lot like a thf's knife
http://mypage.iu.edu/~cdolle/crap/front.jpg
http://mypage.iu.edu/~cdolle/crap/side.jpg
kazuri
11-17-2004, 02:22 AM
mm I see, thanks Mdn for close up pics. &^^
Now... anyone know of Orichalum Dagger is lime-glowing-ish?
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