Lets talk about Stats, baby!

[modnar]

Lets talk about Stats, baby!
Lets talk about you and Me...
Lets talk about all the good things and the bad things that may be.
Lets talk about Stats...



Just wanted to post this for people that argue statistics about Races and Jobs. This info might be from an old source (you will notice I do not consider the NEWER jobs in this), but if the stats still hold true, you might find them amusing...

AGI:
-Paladin has the worst AGI stat in the game.
-Followed by Monk, who has the same AGI as a Bard.
-Followed by White and Red Mage, then followed by Dark Knight.
-Followed by Black Mage, which has the same AGI as a Warrior!

VIT:
-White Mage, Bard, and Warrior have the same VIT stat.

DEX:
-Red Mage and Bard are tied with the Ranger in DEX stats.
-Dark Knight has more DEX than Ranger.
-Paladin has the least DEX than all those mentioned above.
-Warrior has the same DEX as Black Mage.

STR:
-Paladin has more STR than Monk.


So, go and argue numbers, but you might be surprized that even the job itself does not give you the best stat to do itself. (pun intended...?)

[Aiarin]

Originally posted by modnar
DEX:
-Red Mage and Bard are tied with the Ranger in DEX stats.
-Dark Knight has more DEX than Ranger.
-Paladin has the least DEX than all those mentioned above.
-Warrior has the same DEX as Black Mage.

Rangers don't care about Dexterity at all =P

[Balgas]

Wouldn't it also depend on what race you are?:confused:

[Aiarin]

Well, he's obviously talking about a race-neutral situation. A Mithran Thief will have exactly as much more Dex than a Hume Thief, as a Mithran Redmage over a Hume Redmage. That is to say, that each bonus is sepperate and can easily be removed from stat calculations.

[guyincorporated]

Originally posted by modnar
VIT:
-White Mage, Bard, and Warrior have the same VIT stat.


Yeah, this floored me. I get more vitality as a /nin than as a /war.

[sharlngan]

dex = crit hit soooo we dont mind the dex..

[Cali]

For some odd reason, SE intended to make MNK a VIT job for no reason(we don't tank much...)... and RNG needs AGI for ranged accuracy and stuffs.

[modnar]

Originally posted by Cali
For some odd reason, SE intended to make MNK a VIT job for no reason(we don't tank much...)... and RNG needs AGI for ranged accuracy and stuffs.

Of course, Monk and Paladin have the same VIT stat. Just thought I would add that. ... ;)

[Hisdon]

you forgot DRK have more VIT than WAR :P

[Darkedge]

What about War STR vs RNG, DRK, SAM, DRG?

[ZQM]

WAR, DRG, and DRK have A STR, RNG has D, and SAM has B.

You can look at the stats on one of the stickies in this forum.

http://ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20727

[l)@RK-l)EVIL]

Originally posted by ZQM
WAR, DRG, and DRK have A STR, RNG has D, and SAM has B.

You can look at the stats on one of the stickies in this forum.

http://ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20727


Drk & War STR A+
drg STR A-
sam B+

some jobs only A not - or +

[Nodachi]

Originally posted by Aiarin
Rangers don't care about Dexterity at all =P
Ehh that's not entirely true, nearly all melee should at least keep Dex in mind, especially towards end game as it does indeed help contribute to critical hits. But I understand what you're saying, probably that Ranger should just focus on ranged acc/atk and agility rather than dextarity.

[Aiarin]

Well, yes, I meant it in a sense that Rangers generally don't buy equipment or sub a certain class because of Dexterity ^^;;

[Lynsy]

A Mithran PLD has the same DEX as a Elvaan THF

An Elvaan SMN/WAR has more STR than a Taru WAR/SMN

A Galkan WHM/SMN has higher VIT than a Taru PLD/WAR

[modnar]

Originally posted by Lynsy
A Galkan WHM/SMN has higher VIT than a Taru PLD/WAR


Ooooh! I love that one!

[Lynsy]

Re Galka WHM and Taru PLD
(I decided to start another thread simply because the post was so long.)

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=479718#post479718

[Thegod]

Originally posted by Aiarin
Rangers don't care about Dexterity at all =P

we dont?

think again, higher dex means a higher critical hit rate for both meele and ranged attacks.

it may not be anything we focus on even a little, but more dex is always a bonus.

[Macht]

Originally posted by Aiarin
Well, yes, I meant it in a sense that Rangers generally don't buy equipment or sub a certain class because of Dexterity ^^;;

Actually I've been playing with DEX as a RNG/WAR I did notice one huge difference it made. The skill like Barrage did a heck of a lot better with more DEX then more Rng Acc. or AGI.

I'll have to actually test these out though so I have more data to back them. The testing I did for it was shoty, but the results from it were constistent with +4 DEX my Barrage damage was definatly more then that of +16 Rng Acc. with the two slots that were changed (I was switching out my Scorpion Rings +1 with the Armetice Rings +1, however you spell those +2 DEX rings).

Every time I used Barrage with the +16 Rng Acc. the best damage was 500. When I switched them out for +4 DEX the best damage went to 600. This stayed very consistent , I'll still have to test it more though before I commit to standing behind it.