Bloodtear Baldurf

[SAVAGE]

Soloed by me, 65 THF/NIN :P was fun.

[Darkedge]

I've got a curious question, not having ever leveled Ninja, was the drop worth more than the Ninja tools used?

Edit: didn't take into consideration of how drop was worth 100s of K.. but as a general question when Ninja solo NMs, is the ninjitsu cost ever more than the drop?

[Omena]

Umm, you mean the Viking Shield?
The fight would have to last weeks for the shihei cost to be higher than what the shield is worth.

[leii]

Originally posted by Omena
Umm, you mean the Viking Shield?
The fight would have to last weeks for the shihei cost to be higher than what the shield is worth.
LOL

unless you had alot of potions i would think it would be impossible for a level 65 thf.

[dworkin]

really i find that so far fetched. maybe if you duel weild the kraken club, an the dagger witch can attack 3 times, an your triple attack effect kicked in everytime, an bloodtear missed you every single time that your blink stayed up, an you some how fleed his aoe attack that reduces your hp by 3/4. or maybe you ran apon him at his weakest time, i mean with absolutely no hp left, an you ingaged him..


sorry i cant believe this one no matter what. recast time on blink whould get you killed. its aoe attack would lower your hp so low, a couple hits would kill you. add in your low attack.. an lack of heals.. i dont see this happening.

[SAVAGE]

OK then, gear is posted here.
Scorp harness
spike necklace
2x dodge earings
emperor hairpin
2x sniper rings
AF feet
AF legs
AF hands
Survival Belt
Amemit+1
Cermet Kukri+1
Garudas Dagger
Zamburak+1
Acid+Bloody Bolts
HP=1061

Oh yeah my evasion capped at 227, which is more than a war/nin has at lvl 75, My marksmanship is capped at 202, Bloodtear couldnt even hit me, when blink was down which was ever 2-4 minutes, i just recast, if he got a shot on me, 3 bloody bolts i was at 100% health. When he did HP down, i just keep blink up and shoot bolts, HP down wore off i shot bolts to 100%, only thing that sucked was petrify, but it didnt last long, i dont care if you dont believe me, i did it and it was EZ, he could only hit me for 50 hp, 100 Critial, and bloody bolts drain from 40-90 HP every shot.

[bbcradical_ed]

Surely you must have a pic to prove this. Kindly share ^^

[Kastel]

he's really easy actually, i believe it. also before utsu patch the hp down didnt go through it, not sure about now tho

[dworkin]

id love to have seen proof. say fraps or something pictures yet there is nothing.. an its odd to read about pt's of 60 thinking he was a timely mob. but for you to solo would take some time..


hell then again maybe you did solo it.. vegas odds say you couldnt do it again. you make it sound like everything was timed perfectly, from your blinks going down, just as its time expired for recast, to hitting for high end hp drain everytime.. maybe you were just lucky..


but hey prove me wrong, but this time frap it..

[Cryptik]

those HNM rams are a joke.

What makes soloing HNM so easy for THF is probably the crossbow enhancement. Since bloody bolts are so damn good at keeping THF HP up , It's almost impossible to go to red HP /w good evasion, Persiko Au Lait and utsusemi. PURE evasion helps out a lot.

there is a trick to counter petrify /w character positioning...but I won't go into detail for that one.

Oh and...

good job Savage! (although this post is very redundant and useless)

THF bragging rights.... /sigh

[Kiyone]

It has a little more to do with Max HP down and then Mighty Strikes (maybe that is only Steelfleece's 2hr... which he can use more than once). Also, both rams have a high attack speed, which can double or triple attack.

You'd have to be able to evade a considerable amount of these attacks, and during max HP down, it's considerably more dangerous.

[Buuyon]

no blood has mighty strikes also...i doubt three blinks would last you more then 2 seconds...and the AOE that takes out your hp...woudl take off your blinks...not to mention you spending a long time in a fight with him...

so really unless you use flee every time he used mighty strikes/AOE and had a 50 inven space full of hi-potions and then about 5 stacks of bloody bolts...then sei hei...even then you would still die...if you could solo it a NIN could solo it...your 3 blinks vs his 6(or what ever) and do alot more damage then you with shurikans and guns and such...so untill you get a video you did not solo him...

[Gryff]

Bloodtear and steelfleece are so frikking easy, I solo'd as 60 nin with only my atk buld on ( only +21 eva at the time )

I think I cast 5-6 utsusemi for the whole fight?

They honestly cant hit for shit and they die so damn quickly, like 5 mins.

Ninja gets preventative consumables such ara hojo kurayami and jubaku, thief gets bolts of varying types which can debuff or regain hp.

These rams are stupidly easy/weak though

[guyincorporated]

Originally posted by Buuyon
no blood has mighty strikes also...i doubt three blinks would last you more then 2 seconds...

You understand that Mighty Strikes isn't an auto-hitting ability right?

Nothing like activating Mighty Misses as a warrior only to whiff 5x in a row...

[Sabastion]

Originally posted by SAVAGE
OK then, gear is posted here.
Scorp harness
spike necklace
2x dodge earings
emperor hairpin
2x sniper rings
AF feet
AF legs
AF hands
Survival Belt
Amemit+1
Cermet Kukri+1
Garudas Dagger
Zamburak+1
Acid+Bloody Bolts
HP=1061

Oh yeah my evasion capped at 227, which is more than a war/nin has at lvl 75, My marksmanship is capped at 202, Good job! I duoed bloods with a 65 rdm once (I was only 38drg wanted the title) I was wondering when I could do this with my thf. Would you say uncapped eva and no scorp harness could do this?

[Cryptik]

the naysayers are mostly the ppl who don't play THF or NIN.

It's a whole different soloing game for THFs and NINs.

it might be a lot tougher to solo the rams w/o maxed evasion.

As for harness... you can probably do well /w aketon+1.

[Mookie]

Originally posted by guyincorporated
You understand that Mighty Strikes isn't an auto-hitting ability right?

Nothing like activating Mighty Misses as a warrior only to whiff 5x in a row...

I think people get a little confused with THF SA (being a critical hit) having a 100% hit rate (as long as you are behind the target) and then they think since Mighty Strikes makes all your attacks Criticals they assume they are garuntees, but they aren't.

God, nothing pissed me off more as my WAR than to use my 2 hour and only get a couple hits in :mad:

btw <Congratulations> Savage ^^
I want a Viking Shield ><

[guyincorporated]

I turned on Mighty Misses over the weekend on the last kill of the night. Proceeded to miss 5 great axe swings in a row, then my ability wore off.

So. Weak.

[Buuyon]

i never said it had a 100% hit rate...i said he has mightystrikes also...

also more of a reason i doubt you soloed him is thf are weak...real weak...with out SATA(or SA in this matter) you arent going to be hitting for that hard...so not being able to sa him in the first place will make the fight alot harder(seeing how your WS do about 100-300 with out sata)

[cloudedlink]

lol, its sad that you guys dont believe this is true. then again most of you arent even lvl 70 yet, so i guess you wouldnt even half understand the solo capabilities of a thief.
those rams are really a joke, i duo'd them at lvl 62 with a 60 whm and only got hit once. i later duod them with another thief at around lvl 67. i had never actually encountered these alone because i always had a white mage friend online who would be with me while doing other events. oh and this was before the thf crossbow patch, including that english didnt even have access to scorpion harnesses until end-game.
might i add that thief with maxed evasion skill, eva armor, and much skill can even tank the orc/yagudo god (i have tanked both myself) at lvl 72+, and i even tanked byakko for just under a minute when the alliance i was hunting with died... but banishga 3 finished me hehe^^
soo, all i have to say is your doubts have no base of reasoning besides ignorance.

[bbcradical_ed]

We don't 'not' believe it, we just want proof:p

If some man on the street says he is Jesus, he COULD be Jesus, but we would want proof.

That's all :P

No doubt these rams are a joke now though =/

[Ljarin]

Originally posted by Buuyon
also more of a reason i doubt you soloed him is thf are weak...real weak...with out SATA(or SA in this matter) you arent going to be hitting for that hard...so not being able to sa him in the first place will make the fight alot harder(seeing how your WS do about 100-300 with out sata)



Um, no, no and .. no.



Edit:

Last time I killed BB he managed to hit one Utsusemi shadow from me the entire fight, all of it's other attacks were a complete miss.

[Gman]

You used Garuda's dagger? I thought that was level 70... I guess I could be wrong. Can anyone confirm?

[Gryff]

all the avatar weps are lvl 65.

[Buuyon]

Originally posted by Ljarin
Um, no, no and .. no.



Edit:

Last time I killed BB he managed to hit one Utsusemi shadow from me the entire fight, all of it's other attacks were a complete miss.
and your 75...THERE YA GO BUD!

[Gman]

Originally posted by Gryff
all the avatar weps are lvl 65.

Thanks

[Sabastion]

Originally posted by Buuyon
and your 75...THERE YA GO BUD! OMFG dude stfu up your flaming in elvaan thf thread and here... If you even knew anything about thf you'd know this is not a prob for a thf. Take your jelous self elsewhere.

[Buuyon]

Originally posted by Sabastion
OMFG dude stfu up your flaming in elvaan thf thread and here... If you even knew anything about thf you'd know this is not a prob for a thf. Take your jelous self elsewhere.
OMFG POTATOES!!!!!!11!1!111!

on a side note, i dont belive he can do this because the struggle a few friend had when they fought this...wich included a thf...using SA ws...now at 74 with more utsusemis and more evasion and agi i wouldnt doubt he could do it easy...and if i was jelous i would be lvling thf now wouldnt i?

[Serpent]

Originally posted by bbcradical_ed
We don't 'not' believe it, we just want proof:p

If some man on the street says he is Jesus, he COULD be Jesus, but we would want proof.

That's all :P

No doubt these rams are a joke now though =/

Sadly this boon friend of mine did not take pics =P but from what I was told he did in fact solo it but a whm walking by healed him once and he ask her to stop lol

[Ljarin]

Originally posted by Buuyon
and your 75...THERE YA GO BUD!


1) It doesn't change the fact that


Originally posted by Buuyon
also more of a reason i doubt you soloed him is thf are weak...real weak...with out SATA(or SA in this matter) you arent going to be hitting for that hard...so not being able to sa him in the first place will make the fight alot harder(seeing how your WS do about 100-300 with out sata)

Is still totally wrong.

and 2) I never said I was 75 when I killed BB last.

You really shouldn't jump into threads posting things that are completely wrong and then attempting to make other people look stupid when you are assuming things that are *again* wrong because you just make yourself look stupid instead.

[Sabastion]

Originally posted by Buuyon

and if i was jelous i would be lvling thf now wouldnt i? As a /sub for your drk... whats your point asshat? Go flame somewhere else.

[Buuyon]

Originally posted by Sabastion
As a /sub for your drk... whats your point asshat? Go flame somewhere else.
yes very good i need to lvl thf, if you looked at the other thread i said i have a 27 thf...and well i hate it cuz thf suck ass till 33...even still i will hate thf as a main

[Gman]

Originally posted by Buuyon
yes very good i need to lvl thf, if you looked at the other thread i said i have a 27 thf...and well i hate it cuz thf suck ass till 33...even still i will hate thf as a main

Wrong again.

SATA + Fast Blade (and possibly Combo) is good for 300+ dmg easily at lvl 30-32. Thats more than any other job but RNG (Barrage) at level 30. Viper Bite at 33 just makes THF ~more~ powerful, but they were already insane damage dealers before that.

[WishMaster3K]

Wow, i find it hard to believe that some ppl flame THF. Must be because they never pted with a good one. THF evasion is a pretty damn nice commodity, especially after the formulas get all screwy after lvl 61, which further seperates THF's from the rest of the pack.

know how a NIN can tank with Utsusemi? You should! NIN evasion. Now imagine how a THF might possibly Tank with Utsusemi? (not sure if NIN of THF evasion is higher, so I wont say anything about that.)

And about damage, sure, THF hit for what can be seen as @$$ damage, but in the big picture, think about how often a THF hits (low delay weaps, and having two of em), and how often they raise TP. Sure, it's easy to wield a Scythe and blast an enemy for 1k of damage, but when you can only do that once every 2 or 3 matches due to the insane missing that scythes get (especially Elvaan DRK) a THF/NIN might very well actually do equal damage as a DRK.

[Lmnop]

believe ninja's A- and thf's A+ so better evade post 61. oh, and don't forget those evasion bonus traits. yeah, thf/nin's are funny creatures.

[Kastel]

heh.. in combat skills as Lv75 thf under the right conditions, my evasion is stated as 295 capped. This is from +7 evasion skill from torque and +10 evasion skill from master caster mitts. Also a +2 evasion skill from a merit point i threw that way. Then on top of all that, the regular +evasion gear that does not effect the combat skills~

People are amazed by the stuff I can tank/solo/duo. Not hard to believe she killed the Ram.

Anyways, why is it such a big deal she did or didn't. She basically wanted to share a story with everyone, if you dont believe it, that's fine, doesnt matter.

[Kastel]

Originally posted by Lmnop
believe ninja's A- and thf's A+ so better evade post 61. oh, and don't forget those evasion bonus traits. yeah, thf/nin's are funny creatures.

oh and thf evasion is A+, all that is correct, only advantage nin get is they have debuff ninjitsu/blind, para... also another utsu ni shadow ~.~

[Buuyon]

Originally posted by Gman
Wrong again.

SATA + Fast Blade (and possibly Combo) is good for 300+ dmg easily at lvl 30-32. Thats more than any other job but RNG (Barrage) at level 30. Viper Bite at 33 just makes THF ~more~ powerful, but they were already insane damage dealers before that.
possibly combo? combo is better then fastblade...and yes a WAR/THF will destroy thf still till 33...80 a hit, berserk then SA sturm wind for 150+

and yes...being 65 and 75 are two huge diffrences...more evasion and more agi...dont for get a total of 5 shadows also...

[Mookie]

Originally posted by Buuyon
possibly combo? combo is better then fastblade...and yes a WAR/THF will destroy thf still till 33...80 a hit, berserk then SA sturm wind for 150+

and yes...being 65 and 75 are two huge diffrences...more evasion and more agi...dont for get a total of 5 shadows also...

WAR hitting for 80 a hit at level 30, you have to be smoking crack (only way this could be possible is if Mighty Strikes was active)!
As for SA+Sturmwind beating out SATA+Fast Blade... hmmm... it has the potential, but wont happen often (if at all) when the THF is well equiped. I know my WAR/THF (best possible equips) at level 30 was doing about 2/3rds the damage my THFs SATA+Fast Blade (also best possible equips).
Then when I turned 33 and got Viper Bite I destroyed any damage my WAR EVER did with SA+Sturmwind.
So a WAR/THF can pretty much keep up with the WS damage of a THF for 3 levels :)
There is no way in hell SA+Sturmwind is a better SC closer than SATA+Fast Blade (or Viper Bite 33+) though.


Oh and a 75 THF/NIN would have 6 shadows... but I'm sure you knew that.

[Buuyon]

Originally posted by Mookie
WAR hitting for 80 a hit at level 30, you have to be smoking crack (only way this could be possible is if Mighty Strikes was active)!
As for SA+Sturmwind beating out SATA+Fast Blade... hmmm... it has the potential, but wont happen often (if at all) when the THF is well equiped. I know my WAR/THF (best possible equips) at level 30 was doing about 2/3rds the damage my THFs SATA+Fast Blade (also best possible equips).
Then when I turned 33 and got Viper Bite I destroyed any damage my WAR EVER did with SA+Sturmwind.
So a WAR/THF can pretty much keep up with the WS damage of a THF for 3 levels :)
There is no way in hell SA+Sturmwind is a better SC closer than SATA+Fast Blade (or Viper Bite 33+) though.


Oh and a 75 THF/NIN would have 6 shadows... but I'm sure you knew that.
i belive thats 5 but im not sure since i dont have a 74 job, no great axes are pretty strong and when fighting low def mandys they do alot...of corse sa sturm wind wont beat sata"insert weaponskill here" but will do like 150+

[Darkedge]

Originally posted by Buuyon
i belive thats 5 but im not sure since i dont have a 74 job, no great axes are pretty strong and when fighting low def mandys they do alot...of corse sa sturm wind wont beat sata"insert weaponskill here" but will do like 150+

I believe it's 6, Ni gives 4 to main and 3 when subbed, right?

Since this is a bloodtear topic and we're debating warrior, I haven't taken my war to kazham yet because I want a higher rank, i HATE low rank parties, but my normal Sturmwind in Qufim w/ Neckchopper has been 150+, click the pic in my sig for my gear. I would also hit between 40-60 per hit or so.

In one party this Galka THF did a 170+ SA Fast Blade on a worm, but I haven't seen SA Combo in action.

[Jaggywaggy]

For those that still have doubts, don't base how a thf solos with your pre 30 thief please. I felt thief was indeed a gimp soloist pre 50, but they actually change alot from then.

As mentioned Thf does indeed have A+ in evasion skill cap, also we have 3 definitely known evasion job traits at 10,30,50, and 70 has been rumored to also. Not including outside factors such as spells and the such, thief has the highest potienal evasion given they have an evasion set of equipment.

Therefore the shadows of a thief wouldn't be down in a few seconds but in actually quite a while. And because most hits with us when properly equipped are evaded a thief would have all day to recast utsusemi. Here's an example of how much those evasion traits help.

My last party in the tree I was 54-55 pulling our party robber crabs and crawlers which were on average 180-220 experiences before chain bonus. With about 22-23 added agi, and only 10 evasion equipped I evaded about 1/4-1/3 of the mobs attacks on the pulls if they for some reason they got close to me. Had I eqiupped all my current evasion equips I would've been at +26 evasion and about 20 agi. Also my evasion is about 10-15 off the cap. Had I capped that evasion, and been wearing all my ideal evasion equips, I would've definitely evaded roughly half the attacks off inc-tough mobs in the 200xp range.

Another point to make... Although our marksmenship is only C+, it's definitely good enough to hit mobs at a decent rate given we have some range acc equips and the mob isn't inc-tough. To a mid 60 thief the ram wouldn't be many lvls higher if at all. The ram can be toward the 60-mid 60 range of it's random lvl and then marksmenship would definitely not be a problem. That C+ really isn't a problem except vs xp mobs. Therefore pumping in a few acid bolts at the start, recovering hp with bloody bolts, blind bolts and maybe even poisoning it with venom bolts is not an impossiblity.

Triple attack- when the mobs are <tough> or easier, this trait kicks in ALOT, just like with double attack and other jobs.

A thief with all the acc gear he had and the fact the ram must've been around his lvl due to its lvl range, dancing edge solo would probably hit for full potienal as a solo WS not used with SA. Think of this way. Drk gets gulli at lvl 60, yet its normally not all it's cracked up to be because most of the hits miss for inc-tough+++ mobs. Take it to skillup parties and farming were possiblely lacking acc gear isn't an issue, suddenly you have 100s of damage, penta is similar when not used with SA. In short, dancing edge would be quite powerful as a solo WS when 4-5 of the stabs hit.

In conclusion, don't underestimate thf's potienal evasion between 3 evasion job traits, the many many evasion equips that are equippable by us, the natural high agi we have, blind bolts with crossbow, and our A+ in evasion. That added with a ninja sub for utsusemi when a hit does actually get through. Evasion is our lifeline and you probably wouldn't have doubts if you had a post 50 thief with about 30 evasion in equips and capped evasion.

:Edited for typos:

[WishMaster3K]

:handsdown

Ty so much for that insight jaggywag. now i wonder if this thread will be silenced on that note ^^;

[Rhayn]

Just to add my two cents, anyone that doesn't believe Savage could solo Bloodtear Baldurf (an NM who can't hit the broad side of a barn) with that equipment obviously hasn't watched a THF solo Aquarius or a NIN solo Serket, as I have seen.

Although an NM, Bloodtear Baldurf's level is usually guessed as somewhere between 55-63, whereas Savage was level 65. High evasion is incredibly powerful, particularly against things below your level. Those that doubt the power of high evasion usually only look silly to those that have witnessed it before.

I suppose some people just have to see things with their own eyes to believe it though, so I don't see much more point in arguing. The non-believers will just recieve a nice shock the first time they see it for themselves. :)

[Buuyon]

i have been told by alot of people blood tear is 68

[Kastel]

aquarius is lv70ish, the rams are like lv 5x

[Everen]

On WSs in the late 20s, as a WAR26/MNK with Berserk + Boost and 300%TP Sturmwind lands for just over 300.

Its all been said, but THF/NIN can blink tank better than NIN, only downside is they dont have provoke.

[Rhayn]

One last thing I wanted to comment on~

Originally posted by Buuyon
possibly combo? combo is better then fastblade...and yes a WAR/THF will destroy thf still till 33...80 a hit, berserk then SA sturm wind for 150+

I leveled my thief from 28 to 31 last night with a WAR in my party. We started on Spiders and Beetles in Eastern Altepa Desert and then moved to Sauromugue after we all had gained a level.

Before level 30 and Trick Attack, my SA+Fast Blades were doing around 180-250 damage and normal SA around 100 damage. Every hit I did was 12-20 and I'd attack around 2-3 times as fast as the WAR/THF because of low delay and dual wield.

Meanwhile, most of WAR's hits were around 45-50 and his WS around 100. This means the WAR was only doing slightly more melee damage than me and less WS damage overall.

However, once I hit level 30 my WS with only 100% TP did this to IT mobs:

http://img12.exs.cx/img12/8408/thf_fastblade.jpg

On top of that, my SATA did 204-234 damage 2-3 times every fight we didn't do our skillchain, all of it helping the tanks keep aggro. When counting SATA, my weaponskills, and the renkei the damage was not even close between the WAR and I, even though he had just gained Sneak Attack.

I can't wait until I hit level 33 to pump out even more damage. :)

[SAVAGE]

Sorry, i have been MIA for awhile :P, im looking through my screens now to see if i took some. And thanks for u ppl that actually know what a thief is capable of, and for those of youwho dont, you shouldnt talk till u know wtf u talkin about. Yes i did solo him, yes a WHM tried to help me and i yelled at them, no bloodtear couldnt hit me, i used 6 Powders whole fight, and your worng, my Dancing edge does close to 600 if not more, funny part was i forgot to eat food while fighting.

[Genuine]

yeah, THFs r strong, a lvl 70 thf could prolly own my ass in ballista, providng i didnt Last Resort>SATA>Spiral Hell him :spin: , other then that I hit like 1ce every 20 seconds if I could even hit a THF (well i could easily hit a thf but the avrg drk dosnt have my gear, just /check me in my sig). i mean there Evasion is so freaking high :eek: :eek: and yes, THF is really a good job to play as, if i was to add up the dmg i did and the dmg a thf did in a fight, theyd probley out dmg me, but i doubt they could out dmg me cuzz of my insane gear and weapons. but i, a dark knight, lvl 75, could probley not kill hit BB without a WHM. but i could hit the other NM BB coughcoughbubblyberniecoughcough ;)

oh and some ppl dont realise thfs soloing capabilities like someone has stated they are very good allyes :thumbsup: :handsdown

[SAVAGE]

Its good to see some ppl recognize how powerful a thief really is, Thank you ^^

[HeLLb0rN]

Different gear, so I'm assuming it's a different Thief, but...

http://vnboards.ign.com/The_Thief/b22544/78096823/?7

[Stanislav]

Love to watch people say this is impossible..

I basically soloed this on NIN at like level 61 (Back when I used ATK gear over evasion gear) then at 75 on THF without even using bloodly bolts or being hit at all.

If a NIN 61 with no evasion can solo this then a THF which have way higher base evasion and bolts get HP back can do far better.

As for the idiot that said THF are weak.. Dancing Edge does 500-1000 straight up to monsters same level as your or lower, maybe you should play THF before you talk?

NIN and THF can both solo monsters like Amemet and Aquarious without having much problems becuase of their massive evasion. Aquarious basically attacks like he has 100 Fists so without evasion you are pretty screwed..

The soloing power of NIN and THF should never be doubted. (Especially if u used merit points on evasion :sweat: )

[Fire]

Stainslav is so right ehehe ;) THF with maxed marksmanship can solo most decent money NM's.

[Ixaera]

Just took this guy down without any problems whatsoever.

I'm 66 thf/nin, was wearing:

emp pin
heavy crossbow - bloody/acid bolts
stun knife+1
musketeer commander's falc.
aketon
rogue's culotte
leaping boots
survival belt
nomad's mantle
flouritex2
spike necklace
rogue's armlets
dodge earringx2

Fight went:
Sleep bolt claim
Cast utsu (sleep didn't stick really but it missed me anyway)
It missed a crapload, and bloody bolts easily covered what it hit me for, with a ton to spare. I didn't use but one acid bolt (which wore off fairly early in the fight), and maybe 10-12 shihei. Possibly more. It missed me enough that I was consistently able to reapply utsusemi after 2 shadows were gone. (And have a LOT of room to spare to do so.)

Now, a bunch of LS people came out to cheer me on when I said I'd claimed him, and of course I invited my boyfriend -- but he got there half-way through the battle and I made him promise to stick to slow and paralyze. (and I did get a protectra II at that point)

The ram bleated once, nearish the end of the fight, but only hit me once after it was on, even though he kept doing the evasion down move. When bleat wore, I got a Cure II (and at some point, a regen I), but the ram barely touched me between bleat and death.

No shield.

Pics:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/Ixaera/Gallery/clp118.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/Ixaera/Gallery/clp119.jpg
And drops and end-battle text:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/Ixaera/Gallery/clp122.jpg

And, hopefully, that settles that. :P

Just to go on the record: I do not have any spectacular gear, and it still couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. As far as ninjutsu-usage, I didn't bother. He was too easy to justify expending the tools. Bolts -- I used only one acid bolt, one sleep bolt, and maybe seven bloody bolts (most of which I used after bleat wore off toward the end). Though I had someone para/slowing him, this ram would have been cake without. I have NO doubt whatsoever than a 65, or even a 63 thf/nin could do this...possibly lower with a good deal of intelligence and foresight.

[Ljarin]

The only people that doubt a thf/nin can easily solo things like this are the ones that think thf don't get any better than they they are pre lv15.

FYI as 75thf/nin I solo'd Aquarius down to about 10% without any bloody bolts, regen food, potions or anything. And I wasn't even using evasion gear (had hecatomb on at the time)

[Genuine]

:thumbsup: There you have it ladies and gentleman! :thumbsup:

[Kiaza]

I love it when a class other then RDM, NIN, THF, or BST claim a mob to be impossible to solo.
To watch those job classes that are worthless outside of party's scream in jealousy that its impossible to solo certain NM's and HNM's almost gives me a boner...

Almost...

[WishMaster3K]

Originally posted by Kiaza

To watch those job classes that are worthless outside of party's scream in jealousy....almost gives me a boner...


XD Wish I could relate, but as it is, all i can do is solo stuff that i needed a party for 2 levels prior. Closest i got to being on par was soloing IT Worms in Koro Tunnel at lvl 20 or so (w/e lvl i got Silence), competing with parties a level lower or higher than me...

Oh, the good days ; ; :(

[peet]

Originally posted by Rhayn
Just to add my two cents, anyone that doesn't believe Savage could solo Bloodtear Baldurf (an NM who can't hit the broad side of a barn) with that equipment obviously hasn't watched a THF solo Aquarius or a NIN solo Serket, as I have seen.

I saw a thief solo Serket the other day. Took him forever to kill. And as far as Savage soloing Bloodtear congrats and all but this has been done before. I don't understand why you had to post about it.

[Sabastion]

Originally posted by peet
I saw a thief solo Serket the other day. Took him forever to kill. And as far as Savage soloing Bloodtear congrats and all but this has been done before. I don't understand why you had to post about it.
As you should have seen there were people that didnt know that a theif could do that.

Some people would like to know when it's possible and with what gear. Others such as myself are greatful for the info.

Since you really didnt have anything useful to add, I don't understand why you had to post about it.











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