intrested in taru war/nin.....need advice

[Wils]

ive always had this problem with ff.......i can never choose a job that i really like. I would play the game, and once i got a job to 20 , i would go "man, i really cant see myself enjoying this job past 30." the only job i was ever intrested (my char is a taru btw) is war. Now, i am really, really intrested in the idea of a taru

war/nin. but i have questions:

my war is currently 30, and i have yet to get the NIN subjob.
-Is it absolutely impeccable to have tanking gear AND attacking gear pre level 40? i.e from lvl 32-40 could i get by just having one set of gear (altho it will be the "best" gear i can get. not gimpy gear)

-my great axe skill is lvl 0 and my axe is almost done. Where would a good place be to skill up gaxe / axe until they were capped?

-How bad are the costs of war/nin in the long run? per level? per session?

-How are the invites? sporadic? consistent? hardly ever?

- as a taru war, what equips should i be looking for @ lvl 30?


thanks for ur time :p

[Xien]

Regarding tanking and attacking gear, no, it's usually enough to have attacking gear. Especially if you're a Taru, most people won't ask you to tank.

Just go through the places where you lvled before to lvl GAX. Sub WHM to cure yourself and choose the lowest delay gax you can find. Eventually though, you'll come to a point where you can't solo the mobs anymore....bring your GAX into the PT (if it's reasonably close to the cap) and sub THF to make sure it at least hits once per min :P

Regarding cost, depends on what you mean. PT to PT costs aren't too bad. A stack of shihei every once in a while and meat mithkabobs. For equipment, pretty much whatever a DRK gets we will get (Haubergeon, etc). A stack of meats will probably run you about 2 PTs or so. Same with shihei

Invite experiences vary from person to person. Some have it easy, some have it tough. Fastest way to lvl is still to make your own PTs.

Xien

[Kulapica]

Taru makes a fine melee with right equipments. my Taru war is lv 55 ( 4k til my mark ^^). i have no problem keeping up with my elvaan war in my static. just a note that, i boost my str as high as i can. i do not have any accuracy problem so most of my assesories are all toward str.
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?51949

the link above is my equip i have so far.
have fun with ur war ^^

[Fuse_Kazuki]

taru DD's just dont cut it (no offense), i PT'ed a taru DRK last night, his spinning slash did 300-400 on average, and i PT'd a hume DRK this morning, his spiinning slash did 800-1000,

they had the same gear, were the same level and we were fighting the same mobs in the same setup,

as for WAR, i do 600-900+ on average for rampage dual weild,

from what i heard, a certain taru war only does 400 max :handsdown

[Mephisto]

haha no way... if the taru was doing 300 spin its because he was /war. A well equipped taru WAR isnt going to do 400 rampages if you're doing 600-900+. There's just NO way thats true. Taru taru WAR can be really good. Dont be discouraged by anything.

[Fuse_Kazuki]

no, the taru DRK was subbing THF, fully levelled thf sub, using SATA on the pld while i had hate,

and that 400 rampage thing, im serious, 2 people even quit that guys static cuz he was doing to little damage

[Mephisto]

He must've had crap gear. I am positive it wasnt because hes a taru.

[Fuse_Kazuki]

he had a haubergeon, 2 sun rings or 2 snipers, a viking axe and a fransisca, amemit mantle too and the rest WAR AF

[Nameless]

Originally posted by Fuse_Kazuki
no, the taru DRK was subbing THF, fully levelled thf sub, using SATA on the pld while i had hate,

and that 400 rampage thing, im serious, 2 people even quit that guys static cuz he was doing to little damage

You are a (lie)r

[Mephisto]

Sorry fuse, thats just not possible :thumbsup:

[Fuse_Kazuki]

im not, in fact, that taru WAR is on this BBS, i wont name him,

any of u guys in ragnarok can ask Sebby

[Nameless]

I know of 2 Taru WARs who post here, Russta and Synbiosis(sp :x). I still don't believe you.

[Fuse_Kazuki]

bingo, u got it

[Gumbercules]

I've never seen a WAR do more than 600 on a rampage on an IT. And I agree, there's no way a Taru would be doing that little DMG in such a consistant basis.

[sourjirou]

its obvious that you are exagerating. race doesn't have that big of an impact on the job. i've partied with a taru warrior that would out dmg me when was lvlin up my warrior (taru RSE is crazy :sweat: ) . anys with the right equipment you can do great dmg, but you definatly won't be tanking.

[Fuse_Kazuki]

fine, believe what you want, let me remind u theres a 20+ difference in STR

[Mephisto]

I wont beleive you, because you're talking about Synbios, and I PTED WITH HIS WAR. It's not russta cuz his set didnt break over that, and I know syn's did around 65~ish. But I PT'ed with him on crabs at Lv66 and he was doing just as much as any WAR I've PTed with- and he actually knew what he was doing. Not to mention a taru war with opo crown and 2 BST axes looks uber pwn :thumbsup:

[Macht]

Originally posted by Fuse_Kazuki
fine, believe what you want, let me remind u theres a 20+ difference in STR

20+ compaired to what? Elvaan? Elvaan is known for having the highest STR that's just silly to compare it to them alone.

I will have to agree though there is just no way the damage could be that far different from races. A 33% - 50% difference in damage is just way to insaine to be right. At most being decently equipped the damage differences from Race to Race would be probably be 20%. 20% would be extreemly Rare though a 6%-10% would be more common.

So if the best race did 700 damage at best (658 on average) the least any other race would do on average is 560, the more common amount though would be 630. Then of course their best case which would base much more off the weapon and their combat skill would hit the same numbers any other race could do with a 5% or less variance.

The only thing that having the best race does is make it were your average damage is closer to the best potential damage you can do, it does not mean that the best race is going to completly dust any other race by race alone.

The only way that Race would start to play a role in superiority would be when you start hitting rediculously high numbers like 5k+. That isn't even acheivable as far as I know to do in 1 attack and if we started to reach those levels most likely there will be some damage cap waiting for us forcing a level play field still.

[Synbios]

Edit: Scrapped my post. I was here. /wave

[Mephisto]

There's the man himself:thumbsup:

[Armando]

Just go through the places where you lvled before to lvl GAX. Sub WHM to cure yourself and choose the lowest delay gax you can find. Eventually though, you'll come to a point where you can't solo the mobs anymore....bring your GAX into the PT (if it's reasonably close to the cap) and sub THF to make sure it at least hits once per min :P
He's not going to hit much more often because he has 4 more DEX ^^; I think it'd be best to sub RNG (you only have to bring it to 10) and get in a skillup party. The +10 Accuracy will certainly help.

Also, I must side with the others, I doubt race can have THAT big an impact on damage.

[voodoo]

fuse, you're full of shit. there's no way the difference could be that big. no way at all.

[Frozen Flame]

Lol of course Fuse is full of shit ^^ lets see believe everyone who hasmore experiance in this game and believe what I think too, or listen to the utter BS of a level 13 warrior, great job buddy your leet! and let me remind you whm is not a good sub for warrior and polearm sucks for warrior and overall for it has many negative effects on mosnters like skeletons and crabs.

Let me tell you this fuse, its better to keep your mouth shut and have people think your ignortant then saying something totally BS and have removed all doubt.

FACTS lets see stats of all races to make a better point, otherwise it makes you look dumb just saying oh elvaans hae 20+ more str then taru, not at level 1, not at 30, not at 50, maybe 75, but also you forget theres something called gear, something called every race has a weakness, and something called buy gear depending on your races weakness also!, I actually have MORE str then elvaans my level because im wearing some of my RSE, and such.

[Russta]

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bigrussta/1289cyclone.jpg

IT at 75, I was 74.

[Mephisto]

Fuse is WAR67 or somthing :sweat: But yeah, hes full o' shit D;

[SAVAGE]

I am a mithran war LVL 48 just lvl it for fun, but this should apply to taru also. The WAR af Gloves are Decent, but if you really wanna bump up STR and even want some extra HP, go for the gigas bracelets, they have a set for lvl 30 40 50 60 70, each gives good STR and HP up, but it lowers DEX and AGI, maybe it wont apply to you, im not sure aobu tyour DEX and AGI, but im mithran i have lots to give up.

[Uroboros]

Originally posted by Gumbercules
I've never seen a WAR do more than 600 on a rampage on an IT.

Sorry, had to. :spin:

[Ozymandis]

Originally posted by Gumbercules
I've never seen a WAR do more than 600 on a rampage on an IT. And I agree, there's no way a Taru would be doing that little DMG in such a consistant basis.

You've been unlucky to have had such poorly-equipped WARs. I think my highest was at 59 in the AF3 fight versus the second gob (RNG type?), 1120 damage. In exp party without 2 hour, around 850, 800-850 several times... I'd have probably broke 1k damage if I hadn't quit the warrior job.