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Battousai
03-09-2003, 09:46 PM
I have heard the highest level is 60...I think, is this true?

I think it would be, sort of stupid to end at 60 but if it takes a long time to get there, I guess it makes sense..but is it true? Or can you get higher?

aspa
03-10-2003, 01:08 AM
60's the highest level for now. When the game was originally released, the level cap was 50. Then when players started getting up to 50 in somewhat large quantities, they patched in the higher cap.

I'm not sure exactly how often they plan on raising it, but it might very well be possible that they'll do it again when this expansion comes out in April...

The highest potential level I've heard rumored about is 255. Not sure if that's true or not (seems like a pretty arbitrary number, no?)... :)

JncoDragon
03-10-2003, 05:46 AM
Originally posted by aspa
The highest potential level I've heard rumored about is 255. Not sure if that's true or not (seems like a pretty arbitrary number, no?)... :)

Actually, it is not too arbitrary. If you ever noticed in the other Final Fantasy games, the highest number of status points is usually at 255. I know in Final Fantasy X if you used a bunch of STR Up items it cut off at 255. I believe it has something to do with the way hexadecimal works. The highest hex value is FF, which stands for 255. If they tried to go in and change it to a pair of FFFF(making the leve cap a LOT larger), they would have to recode a lot to accomidate for the extra bytes. I am a huge geek and a programmer, so that is the only reason I know this useless information. I thought you might like some clarification. :)

~JncoDragon :eek:

AnraiNavle
03-10-2003, 05:55 AM
in starcraft, i think u can hack the game so that the max upgrade level is 255. it cant really go any higher i think. the normal max is 3.

aspa
03-10-2003, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by JncoDragon


Actually, it is not too arbitrary. If you ever noticed in the other Final Fantasy games, the highest number of status points is usually at 255. I know in Final Fantasy X if you used a bunch of STR Up items it cut off at 255. I believe it has something to do with the way hexadecimal works. The highest hex value is FF, which stands for 255. If they tried to go in and change it to a pair of FFFF(making the leve cap a LOT larger), they would have to recode a lot to accomidate for the extra bytes. I am a huge geek and a programmer, so that is the only reason I know this useless information. I thought you might like some clarification. :)

~JncoDragon :eek:

Wow! Thanks, point clarified. :thumbsup:
I guess that 255 could very well be the max overall, then.

puhfyn
03-10-2003, 12:48 PM
think of it as 1's and 0's for storing data. when you choose between a one and a zero, you have two options. So, when you have eight spaces to choose for: 0101 1001 then there are 2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2 possible options, or two raised to the eight power, or 256. This is a one bit variable (or is it one byte?). So, if this variable is used to store a character's level, starting at zero the highest it can go to is 255. It will be a few years (if ever) before square raises the level cap anywhere near this number.

TheBest245
03-18-2003, 03:29 PM
It is comfirmed that the level cap has been raised in the expension but they didn't say what was the new level cap.
:angel: :biggrin: :) :p :o :( :eek: :mad: :dead:

mirri
03-18-2003, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by aspa


Wow! Thanks, point clarified. :thumbsup:
I guess that 255 could very well be the max overall, then.



yes 255 is max lvl that is what the programming has written into it but who knows if it will ever get that high


this was all said on an interview with teh developers long ago im 100% sure of it

but if you wanna doubt me whatever ive given up with people on internet boards:spin:

Angler
03-18-2003, 06:37 PM
It's been rumored that the level that the cap will be raised to in the Expansion will be level 75... although, I can't prove that rumor.

Oh, and 2^8 (256) is the highest hexadecimal value, but if Square was using integer variables to store stats, the highest number could be 65,535 (65,536 without counting zero). That's 2^16, or 2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2. Why would Square choose to store stats in hexadecimals, then? Well, first of all... they're easier to manage than an integer is - since data in memory is stored in hex values, you're not going to get values like FFFFFFFFFFFF...FFFFFF. Hexadecimals can't become negative, either. Integers, on the other hand, can be either positive OR negative. If there was a negative stat in a Final Fantasy game, I would almost guarantee you that it would crash the game. They also take up less memory than an Integer does - 2 bytes is obviously less than 5 bytes. With the miniscule memory sizes on any video game console out there, the less bytes ANYTHING takes up, the better.

So, the real reason? Probably to prevent cheating. Think of how much damage you'd do with a STR of 65,535... or if your level instantly became 65,535! Square probably doesn't want you to be able to do that...

Angler

Janus Zeal
03-20-2003, 12:38 PM
I think the cap would be 255 as well, since it takes 1 byte only (it saves space). I don't think the type of variable they use to store levels is called hexadecimal, this would be the way it counts (base 16). Also having levels higher than 255 would be pointless, how long do you think it would take to reach level 65535? I heard it takes around 6 months of heavy playing reaching Level 50, imagine how hard it would be as your exp needed grows nearly exponentially...to reach even Level 255 I'd say 3 years for a good player maybe (this is hypothetic):eek:

Slade
03-20-2003, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by Janus Zeal
I think the cap would be 255 as well, since it takes 1 byte only (it saves space). I don't think the type of variable they use to store levels is called hexadecimal, this would be the way it counts (base 16). Also having levels higher than 255 would be pointless, how long do you think it would take to reach level 65535? I heard it takes around 6 months of heavy playing reaching Level 50, imagine how hard it would be as your exp needed grows nearly exponentially...to reach even Level 255 I'd say 3 years for a good player maybe (this is hypothetic):eek:
6 months:confused: to reach level 50 :eek: heavy player:eek: :eek: and it could reach level 255:eek: :eek::eek:
*...euhhhhuu....urg....heartattack:dead: *
And here I was planning to max all the jobs when I get the game :dead: :sweat:

vagtark
03-20-2003, 02:25 PM
it doesnt take 6 months to get too level 50. I know someone who got to level 57 in just 2 months:confused: :biggrin: