View Full Version : SATA Gimped???
dagon2002
08-01-2004, 02:21 PM
There is some noise on JP message boards and all around that SE is going to make SATA only useable with a 1handed weapon. As a 63 drk/thf i was rather scared when i heard about this and i post this thread to talk and to maybe even ease my own fears and the other drks that may know about this.
At first i thaught this to be b.s. but when i consider the drastic change they made with the tp nerf i would have to consider that SE would indeed do something like this.
p.s.
I am not trying to incite or upset anyone in any way but only to bring about talk on this rumor.
it's gonna be lame and would cause some serious problems for drk's.
dagon2002
08-01-2004, 10:10 PM
i do not have a link handy but this info was told to me by high lvl ppl that have friends in SE (GMS). People that have access to first hand info.
these same ppl that told me about this also knew about the tp fix b4 there was any hint of it in any logs. Now i know ppl dont know me first hand on these boards but trust me i have no reason to lie about this. If i came here and read this i would assume that it was b.s because if u wanted to make thfs better then why not just adjust the critical modifier when SATA is used as a sub? I have no proof but only that i am in a high level clan that has A LOT of friends at SE and i would have to say on a scale of 1-10 id give it an 9 that this is truth.
I have to say this really scares me to DEATH
kumaeru
08-01-2004, 10:35 PM
Well this can be a bad thing to some and good to others. The consequence of Thf sub is it generates slower TP gain. Spinslash can still put out about 600-700dmg avg without Fuidama. With say a War sub you'll be WS much faster. Being lvl 3 renkei say 2 chain lvl 3 renkei. The light bonus would still be significant. About 300-700+ damage Light.
Thing is if it does happen (but even I am sceptical), Drk's will work around it. Drks would go back to subbing War. And maybe use /Sam even.
Currently with 225+ and lvl 3 renkeis and Thf sub, Drks cant renkei every fight. Usually the monster dies too fast when using a renkei, and by the time you get 100% TP again on the next fight using WS would be a waste.
Matkun
08-02-2004, 04:33 PM
dagon2002 = TROLLER
therefore..
info from dagon2002 = VERY VERY VERY Likely to be fake
Awntawn
08-03-2004, 08:39 AM
high level jp players also tend to be:
- delirious from playing too much
- delirious from a lack of sleep
- delirious from all that fake politeness bullshit and the need to rant elsewhere
- jealous because their jobs got pwned due to the overpowering of other jobs
- wishful that if they post a list of fake changes (resulting from the jealousy indicated above) on some forum, they will somehow become true.
like how some bard once posted a list of changes including "Refresh will only be self-targettable"
loh989
08-03-2004, 09:35 AM
lame.. but common it's SE whats new:thumbsup:
kaiserht
08-03-2004, 09:54 AM
Although i highly doubt this would happen, this is the type of thing that would actually make me quit the game.
Not so much due to the fact that it means i have to work harder at my job and change my playstyle but it means nothing is stable anymore.
Things could change and if something like this is so drastically changed whats to say they dont change something else that is even worse?
kumaeru
08-03-2004, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by Awntawn
high level jp players also tend to be:
- delirious from playing too much
- delirious from a lack of sleep
- delirious from all that fake politeness bullshit and the need to rant elsewhere
- jealous because their jobs got pwned due to the overpowering of other jobs
- wishful that if they post a list of fake changes (resulting from the jealousy indicated above) on some forum, they will somehow become true.
Haha, that's too good.
Langolier
08-03-2004, 10:40 PM
Oh God! I hope it's ture!^^ =crosses his fingers=
KuroiOokami
08-06-2004, 12:53 PM
lol @ Awn XD
Macht
08-06-2004, 01:08 PM
Thing you guys really got to realize is that MMORPG are a work in progress. Anything and I mean ANYTHING can be changed, there usually is justified reason why it's done. Some player finds some method to do something as a result it hinders another players progress or brings it to a near stop.
That is were the occurence of this problem is spotted and they look to see how to prevent it, the idea may start focused on that one particular case then expands to encompase a grand picture of it.
So switching it so that 1handed weapons are only capable of doing Trick Attack makes sense. Sneak Attack it doesn't, but with just Trick attack changed like that it carries out the effect of removing SATA from DRKs use. Not only that it is also further adding a realism to it, I mean comeon if I struck someone with a huge sword or scythe there is no way in hell they wouldn't be able to tell the difference of what hit them or even think that the attack was from 1 person.
Not to mention to try and tick an attack with a weapon of that size, that's really stretching it. Anyway back to what I was originally saying, if that's true or not I'd take it with a grain of salt. If it does happen I wouldn't go ballistic over it, because it definatly is something to be expected in games of this genre.
tfung
08-08-2004, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by Macht
Not only that it is also further adding a realism to it, I mean comeon if I struck someone with a huge sword or scythe there is no way in hell they wouldn't be able to tell the difference of what hit them or even think that the attack was from 1 person.
These games you need to take a grain of salt with it... They could argue that trick attack couldn't exist in the first place.. I mean if you were doing SATA spin slash on a monster with someone in front of you, in any event, you will probably have to cut your PT member in half before your sword strikes the monster.. =P
Elsurion
08-08-2004, 11:08 PM
I do hope it's true, so i won't quit at 60 with my THF job :p
Since the reason for inviting a drk/thf is nil then ^^
Awntawn
08-09-2004, 12:25 AM
you guys don't understand spinslash man... you roll around the guy ur using TA on XD
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