280k, how far will it get me??

[Undermind]

like the topic states....


Thanks for your replies.

[navpops]

~30 i would say, if you get all the +1 bows and good arrows, but not Lizze boots, and Valk hairpin (can get elv RSE boots at 29 and save 350k)

after 30 it gets mor expensive with barrage and stuff.

[Azlar]

While we are on the subject, how far would 100k get me? The only difference is my woodworking is at 30, I could save some money on arrows and the lower level bows.

[Reaperx90]

---Arrows---

Well Bone Arrows are a very minor expense at 500g per stack (From NPC in Windurst), and Wooden Arrows are even less than that, so that's negligible...I'd say 10k total on arrows up until Beetle Arrows. --10k--

Beetle Arrows = 1k per stack, and so far one stack of quivers (12k) has gotten me from 17-20, and I still have 4 quivers left. Do note I consider myself to be pretty liberal with arrows. So I'll just be liberal with it and say you'll need 3 total stacks of beetle quivers. --36k--

Horn Arrows are 2k per stack, 24k per stack of quivers. I figure you'll be using quite a few by this time, and they're good for 14 levels, so I'd say 4 stacks of those. --96k--

Scorpion Arrows are 3k/stack, 36k per stack of quivers. $_$ Don't even wanna know the kinda money I'll be crapping away at this point.

Total on Arrows (give or take) until level 45 = 125k

---Equipment---

Most armor is negligible. You're pretty much limited to normal defense gear which all costs about the same, and is returnable income. Not likely to put you out more than 20k at any given time until you come across a piece that just screams "Excellent RNG gear!". However, my opinion is that jewelry covers ranged accuracy plenty, and body armor is fairly free (unless there's good +STR gear available) I'll be liberal here too. --40k--

Beetle Rings +1 are used til end-game, which are 5k per, so that's 10k right there. --10k--

Beetle Earrings +1 are 6k per, so that's another 12k - but they're replaced by Drone Earrings who's price I don't know. --22k for now--

Then you got dual Archer's Daggers at 15k per, so that's 15/30k there, depending on sub job. --15-30k--

As for Bows, don't quote me on this but I'd think having 30k to spare at any given time will be plenty to afford your next bow. --30k--

Total for Equipment = roughly 132k, around 50k of which will be "transition equip"

---------------Total projected expenses til level 45: 257k---------------

So 280k will last you quite a while - past 45 if my rough calculations are anywhere near correct. And speaking of that, can someone who's been around the block tell me about how correct I am? I'm a fairly newbie RNG (level 20), but this looks to be about what RNGs can expect as far as I know.

NOTE: These amounts are on Shiva server, and assume that you'll stick with bows (if you couldn't tell)

[Macht]

How Far 280k gets you depends...If you go with Reaperx90 suggestions which half of it good the other half is lacking.
One of the first bows I spent big on was the "Hunter's Longbow" cost me 30k on my server. After that I went Power Bow +1 cost me 40k. From there to getting Great Bow +1 costs 60k - 70k, this is only the bows to get you to lv. 30. Without reselling the bows you've spent about 140k, half of the 280k already.

His Arrow expense I would guess are ok or decent. I've always wasted threw arrows like there's no tomorrow easily of spent maybe 250k on them just going to lv. 40 and much more after that.

Bettle Ring +1 I probably only use till lv. 35 after that a Horn Ring+1 (12k for 1) is better or be frugal and wait till lv. 45 and get Carapace Ring +1 (20k for 1).

He's about dead on with the Beetle Earings +1, the Drone Earrings you'll get that are useable at lv. 35 cost 22k for 1 on my server.

Archer's Knives he got correct, but there is also the Hawker's Knives which sell for about 30k per or 1mil for a +1.

If you decide to buy good RNG gear up to lv. 45 then ones you'll be going for are probably this stuff:

Nomad's Mantal 15k (+1 100k)
Leaping Boots 250k (Winged Boots 250k)
Emperor's Hairpin 250k
Peacock Charm 1Mil (not likely you'll be intrested till you are much higher level though)
Brigadine 100k (+1 450k)

I think the 280k would take you to around lv. 30-35 before it runs out.

[jo3]

Dep3nds on your level, if you level 60 + y0u better h0pe you've got a bigger check book inorder for you to buy sufficiant arm0r.

[Kai Leonhart]

So from 5-45 really isnt as much as I thought! ^^ YAY! I am sooooo going RNG! I have NIN lvled too so thta should help!:spin:

[Timoham]

You're nuts if you think 280k will get you to 45. I've calculated that all of the gear I have on me currently (including ammo) at level 40 is worth 1.2 million on Midgardsormr. Of course my hawker's knife (270k), hairpin (370k), and leaping boots (250k) make up the majority of that. But I currently have 50k worth of scorpion arrows that will last me until 45 I hope, not including BCNMs/farming/etc. 300k will probably get you to 35 though. You won't have top of the line equipment, but neither did I until I got to 40 and did a bunch of BCNM40's with my LS. A lot of money can be saved by using hume RSE gloves and boots for the +AGI and +STR.

So yeah, it'll get you to 30-35.


And Macht, what server do you play on? That stuff is CHEAP compared to Midgardsormr's prices. hehe.

Nomad's Mantal 23k (+1 230k)
Leaping Boots 250k (Winged Boots 350k)
Emperor's Hairpin 370k
Peacock Charm 2 million
Brigadine 50k (+1 600k)

[poweryoga]

you don't need emp hairpin.
you don't need leaping boots
you don't need nomad's mantle.
you don't need brig +1.
you certainly don't need peacock charm, thats every melee's dream.

Have +1 bows, +1 rings, archer knives, nice arrows would cover up most of your accuracy issues.

Subjob choice is probably more important than those equipment added together pre 45.

[Timoham]

I have to agree with what Poweryoga said. And again, like I said, I didn't buy any of that stuff until I had amassed a large amount of gil. Most of my gear is still worth ~300k at 40 without the uber items.

[Reaperx90]

Wow, your bows were that expensive? Did you start RNG early on in the NA release or something? Hunter's Longbow was 10k for me, Power Bow +1 was 16k, and I believe I've looked at my next bow and it was also no more than 20k, but I could be wrong.

Or maybe Shiva's just a good server for a RNG to be on.

And one more thing. I just decided I wanted to solo worms last night in Qufim. They're IT to me, so it takes me signifigantly more arrows to kill each one. If you plan on soloing, your arrow estimate will rise considerably.

Also I forgot about food, which a comparatively inexpensive requirement. If you can come anywhere near affording RNG, food will be of no financial concern.

One last thing. Unless gear has ranged accuracy +2 or more, it's not worth the gil it costs - that includes AGI gear. All of your AGI gear combined will hardly amount to +5 ranged accuracy, which when you have +38 will hardly make an impact. I am even going so far as to sacrifice AGI for strength (Brave Belt -1 AGI +2 STR) and I will continue along that compromise whenever there is +STR - AGI gear available to me. Of course I'm a mithra so I have plenty of AGI to throw around and am in dire need of any STR I can muster up.

I really need to update my profile^^;

[Timoham]

While fooding I have about +20 AGI. 2 AGI = 1 racc. 10 racc = good.

[Huaua]

omg, i know ive been away from the game for a while (like 2 months) but still, 30K for a hawkers knife.... they were 300K when i left (im on odin). Im so excited!

[poweryoga]

as the saying goes, a fool is quickly parted with his money.

Depending on how smart you spend, 200k can take you very far, or not very far at all. Its up to you to decide whether you really need that emperor pin and hawkers or can make do with a nice archer's knife + centurion's headgear.

[Bagel]

Yeah you can get pretty far with rng if you dont buy emp hairpin & all that just to be cool.

I had 1.2mil when I started rng, I stopped it @ 38 for a while, anyways I had 1.2mil when I continued it, now I'm lvl 57, I had 900,000 yesterday morning, (I havent farmed at all since I started rng) I bought the basic equipment, drone earrings, +1rings, Bastokan feet & legs, +1bows etc, but anyways by the looks of it I've only spent about 300k 38-57 some how, I make a bit from lvling I guess, crystals and stuff, but not to much. Anyways if you don't think your a bad ass & buy hawkers +1 emp pin & lizzy boots then you can get pretty far. Anyways bastokan boots are better then lizzy when your in a nation under your control! :D





Yeah dont mind the huge sig, I dont feel like removing it for one post :(

[Kain99]

Peacock charm is only 1-2mil on your servers? I would kill for it to be that cheap on Ifrit server....its' 6mil. :(

[TaruSGonEWilD]

Honestly, if you are gonna go ranger, dont worry about how far X amount of money will get you. The fact is you will run out, and will need to find a efficient way to farm. My recommendation is just learn how to make money easily. Even if you put all that money and a week or so worth of work, just fishing, it will be more than worth it since you will eventually be able to double that in no time at all. Bottom line, learn how to make money, and buy top of the line stuff, best bow available, + r.acc + agi stuff, etc. Don't worry about things like emp pin, leaping boots, and Ebow, if you have the money, go for it, I doubt they will lose their current value, items like that always gain value over an extended time frame. Anyway thats my rant for the day. :)

[Thegod]

i'm level 30 ranger, and i have almost spent a million on my rng/nin combo, its very close.

i uses guns, and have since level 22, maybe thats the reason.

[Zaptruder]

Titan has peacock charms priced at 8 million gil...

camp and get one of those suckers and you should call up friends and family and take them out for a big dinner...

[coolffxi]

Originally posted by poweryoga
you don't need emp hairpin.
you don't need leaping boots
you don't need nomad's mantle.
you don't need brig +1.
you certainly don't need peacock charm, thats every melee's dream.

Have +1 bows, +1 rings, archer knives, nice arrows would cover up most of your accuracy issues.

Subjob choice is probably more important than those equipment added together pre 45.

i totaly agree on what poweryoga said. OMFG peacock charm is 2million OMG OMFG OMG OMFG on ifit it is like 6 million-7 million >.< i would get 1 if they were 2 million. DAMN lazy ass bums on IFRIT not farming the charm and keeping the price so high! :eek: :) :) :) DAMN e-BOW is 3-5million and raiseing --_--'

[coolffxi]

i am like 52 now i have like 1.3+mill on gear... not including all the arrows and kabobs and all that dont even wana think about it LOL:biggrin:

some stuff i can rem of top of my head.
Lv40+1 bow
Lv50+1 bow
Lv52+1 gun
Lv30+1 Xbow
nomad mantle,marksmensring,Cap+1 ring, viking axe, hawkers, Lv61 mantle, and other stuff no emp or liz stuff ELF rule rng :P :thumbsup:

[Timoham]

Hawker's knife is so not worth the money. 200k for 1.5 racc? No thanks, let the melees spend that much money. I'd rather spend 15k or less on 6 or 7 racc.

[Kousai]

I don't know about the rest of you all, but i have at least 800k-1mil invested into my ranger and i'm only 28. then again i got all the toys:

Leaping boots: 250k
Emperors Hairpin: 375k
Genin Earing: 180k
Hawkers knives: 200k x2
Nomads Mantle+1: 200k

then i also got some minor lil toys like:

Taru rse gloves: 30k(did the quest a while back and sold ._.)
Martial slacks: 30k

And yea thats about all, also use chiefkabobs(in good pts) just cause I'm trying to go broke... and with the bows and arrows added in I've actually spent way more then 1mil.. more like 1.5mil+.. hehe oh well, important thing is, that I have fun being blinged out so thats all that matters to me. :sweat:

edit: also didnt figure in other stuff like shihei and such, but thats just small money anyhow

[Timoham]

Yeah. I used to have over a million invested in gear. Decided it wasn't worth it and threw it all into crafting. I could buy it all back by now, but eh. I'd rather raise more crafts...! :D

This is what I used to have:
Emperor's Hairpin: 450k
Leaping Boots: 350k
Hawker's knife: 200k

That's a million right there. x_X And the whole time I was able to keep up with food/arrows/etc. Got all the money from BCNM40's :D Friend of mine levelling RNG got about 500k from the same BCNMs (he joined us later on after we were doing them) and has NO MONEY left. He hasn't bought any status items or anything either. I have no clue how he's gone through 500k on just food and arrows. Boggles my mind. >.<

But anyway, if you can afford those items on your respective servers, you can afford to get multiple crafts to 60, make a good profit from it, and buy them back in a few months. I've personally made 500k or so raising just wood and bone and using the crafts to get money. Up to 1.6 million or so now x_x!!!

[Bluejoker1118]

instead of making another thread about money...would 700k be more worth it to get lizzy and emps hairpin or just use on arrows?

[Macht]

With RNG really for a majority of the levels as long as you have a very good bow, good arrows, and good rings then you should be set the rest is just icing. Guns if you want to do those I suggest using crossbows pre50 to raise marksmanship without spending to much money, post 50 then is a good time to go to guns Silver Bullets are pretty tough to beat with a Bow and Arrow.

The regular Bullets are around the same damage that you can get out of a Bow and Arrow but they are costly so not to good to do.

[Lightseeker]

Part of it also depends on how you level. I duo'd from 10 to 24 with a whm friend of mine. We went La Theine > Maze of Shakrami > Korroloka Tunnel > Qufim doing worms, and we leveled very fast. You spam arrows, whm keeps you alive. If you do this you'll blow through arrows much faster than the normal Dunes > Qufim party route. Most tanks won't hold hate off you very well, so you'll have to slow down your rate of fire to keep from getting hate. I had an emp. pin already, so my biggest investment was leaping boots. While they're not really needed, you'll wince every time you miss if you're duoing and the boots make a difference.

[Tokitoki]

On my server there are a bunch of greedy Bast***'s and they sell Peacock for 9M. Two people i know did a scheme to bring it down to 6.5M for about a week >.> (sold it from one to the other and just gave everythig back)

[Konoko]

Originally posted by Zaptruder
Titan has peacock charms priced at 8 million gil...

camp and get one of those suckers and you should call up friends and family and take them out for a big dinner...

You get one of those suckers off the NM and you helluva lucky

[Kiyosuki]

I think good advice for the gil heavy jobs like Ninja and Ranger is to not think in terms of saving up a ton of money to play, but to think in ways that you'll get the gil when you need it.

You know what I mean? Like how a lot of people ask how much exact gil is needed to get Ninja to 37, or how much is needed past 37 (Which is just not possible to count) That makes the job imo tougher because you feel the pressure of spending money, which is bad with these jobs. I think the best way to look at it is to take it as it comes, find ways to make the gil you need on the spot and get your ninja tools/ ranged weaponry and ammunition. Equipment that gets really expensive is a different story, you can save for those but your basically in the same boat as every other job that can use awsome equipment. But as far as the expendables like the Ninjutsu tools and Ranger Ammunition goes, where most of the fear of these jobs comes from, I think just taking it as it comes is the best way to go. It honestly makes it easier imo.