um what is the best way for a rdm to make money the fastest

[jenovabldrb]

there is alot of weapons and armor and some other stuff out there that i really want, but it cost way too much. so i was wondering if anyboyd know where i could get stuff the fastest, and easiest way that sells for a decent amount of money. thanks.

[Calladen]

At level 18 you have to level your sub up anyway. Use your sub to get crystals in the nebwie zone - and sell those.

If your Bastokan or in the area, go to the Fumaroles and farm for Beehive Chips and Honey - sell those in stacks.

Go mining. Go fishing. Go logging. Do the Selbina Monument quests.

Go into the Market district of whatever your town and /shout "IM POOR PLZ GIV ME GILZ" a billion times until you get some cash.

Look at the AH, see what sells well. Write it down then see if you can farm for it. Theres no fast way to make money, and very few things are assuredly going to get you cash server-wide. You have do some research.

[jenovabldrb]

ok thanks for your help and yes, i am bastokan but am in sandy right now lvling up two sub-jobs but i could go, back to bastok, and, i am guessing that the bee hive chips and ho n ey come from some kind of bees in dangruff wadi?? well thanks again.

[twylyght]

Go into the Market district of whatever your town and /shout "IM POOR PLZ GIV ME GILZ" a billion times until you get some cash.

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just as a warning or whatevs, there is no "quick" cash making scheme. everything takes time. you could do the bubbly bernie quest in bastok. basically just take anything you can that stacks and sell it.

[kevinsal]

Luckily the most expensive spells & equipment do not come into play at the later levels..

My way of making gil will take place when I hit lvl 34 RDM / 17 BLM. This is when I can use the BLM ability to WARP. (4 lvls away :P)

What I will do is travel to the Tanrongi Canyon via Chocobo.. There I will kill bees and mandys in 1-2 swings.. Sooner or later ill get stack of bee chips 3k a stack from Bees & Cotton 400 gil each from Mandys. Once I have filled my inventory I will warp back to Windy and sell my goods. Notice this process wouldnt be as fast without warp because you will need to march back everytime...

Although I havent done this yet I know ill be able to rack in gil. Once I find a better farming spot for my level, I will just repeat this process there...

Hope this helped!

Queo

30 RDM / 17 BLM

Siren / Windhurst

[jenovabldrb]

ya it did thanks everyone

[Alucath]

Originally posted by kevinsal
Luckily the most expensive spells & equipment do not come into play at the later levels..

My way of making gil will take place when I hit lvl 34 RDM / 17 BLM. This is when I can use the BLM ability to WARP. (4 lvls away :P)

What I will do is travel to the Tanrongi Canyon via Chocobo.. There I will kill bees and mandys in 1-2 swings.. Sooner or later ill get stack of bee chips 3k a stack from Bees & Cotton 400 gil each from Mandys. Once I have filled my inventory I will warp back to Windy and sell my goods. Notice this process wouldnt be as fast without warp because you will need to march back everytime...

Although I havent done this yet I know ill be able to rack in gil. Once I find a better farming spot for my level, I will just repeat this process there...

Hope this helped!

Queo

30 RDM / 17 BLM

Siren / Windhurst


The problem with this, is that you pretty much -need- to sub THF 15+ to get anything worth anything when farming, thus warp is gone. But it doesn't matter, there's a chocobo right at the Crag of Mea.. so it's not like you're walking back. And it takes me like 1.4 minutes to get back from tahrongi to windurst on chocobo. Go figure..

Something I like to do sometimes is get a scroll of insta-warp and go out to Meriphetaud mountains, and farm sadflies for Gausebit wadigrass.

[kevinsal]

There is a Choco at the Mea Crag??!

Dang that woulda helped before.. lol

Yeah you are right I should probably farm in the Meriphetaud mountains and go for those Gausebit wadigrass. THEN I can warp back to Windy.. lol

Would I still get some grass drops with a BLM sub?

EDIT : One more ?, What lvl should I be to hunt these flies?

Thanks!!

[Zempten]

You will still get grass drops, just not so frequenly

[Alucath]

Originally posted by kevinsal
There is a Choco at the Mea Crag??!

Dang that woulda helped before.. lol

Yeah you are right I should probably farm in the Meriphetaud mountains and go for those Gausebit wadigrass. THEN I can warp back to Windy.. lol

Would I still get some grass drops with a BLM sub?

EDIT : One more ?, What lvl should I be to hunt these flies?

Thanks!!

Yeah, you'll get the drops.. but to farm and get good cash off of it then I would suggest a BLM sub, and just get a scroll of insta warp for 750(right?) Conquest points. You can farm these as a RDM, at level 30.. maybe a little bit before, so this is prolly not a good idea for a level 18, BUT if you're trying to get your chocobo liscence, get another level 18-20 player and farm these babies. They drop fairly often, with two people you can clear out the flies and sell the grass or use it for your chocobo license. Anyway, the only thing to watch out for there is gobs x.x.. those are dangerous.

[Digital]

For the grass, /THF really isn't too needed. It's such an easy drop I stopped taking /THF and just take /BLM so I don't have to walk back. Plus, the flies link, so I just Dia one, and link about 4 or 5, and -ga them to death. The average drop is still 3/5 even with /BLM. And I also suggest selling them in Jueno, the price is usually a lot higher there (900 is average, but ranges from 700 - 1k, 1k usually being on the weekends).

[Gman]

I agree, the fly drop rate for grass is extremely high. I was taking someone from my LS to jeuno for his first time, and we stopped to kill some flies for his choco quest. Killed 7 Flies, got 5 grass (I kept the last one)

Then we proceeded to kill a few Skinks in Sauromuge and got 2 raptor skins (1.8k each) but later I went back and killed 2 dozen raptors with no skin drop :( This was all with THF sub.

One of my high level friends (74) told me something interesting the other day. He said ex items are lottery drop and /THF wont change their drop rate. So Skull, mold, papyrus, etc, THF doesn't help at all. But rare or common items, treasure hunter helps.

I went to horoto ruins last night with my RDM/THF to farm Goblin Thugs for wild onions. Got a stack in about 30 minutes... drop rate was at least 2 onions/5 gobs. Considering Wild Onions are currently 6k/stack it was very profitable.

Crawlers for silks are always a favorite since stacks are 10-12k. I like beetle jaws lately too, sold my last stack for 11k, but I can't find a place to farm where jaws drop frequently, mostly get insect wings and shells which are worthless.

[Jaggywaggy]

I'm derailing topic a little but I'd like to mention this

One of my high level friends (74) told me something interesting the other day. He said ex items are lottery drop and /THF wont change their drop rate. So Skull, mold, papyrus, etc, THF doesn't help at all. But rare or common items, treasure hunter helps.

There is no proof for either theory on this, if TH helps or not. Some say both help, some say neither, and then there are some like me which believe only TH2 affects rare/ex. No one has solid proof though, not even the JP who've been around for 2 years, although of course they developed opinions on the subject.

My preferred ways of farming are ram hunting thf/rng when my AH, or at least my mule's AH is totally emtpy about. If it's full, I do hunting in which you obtain gil, such as farming beastmen trains with AOE spells/ws. And items from beastmen at lower lvls normally sell only slightly lower than AH rate anyway.

Crawlers are fine but they bore the living heck out of me. I'll on occasion also farm beehive chips and make beewaxs, level 0 alchemy you can start, gets you to 6. It's actually no profit, slight profit, or slight loss on my sever, but it's easier to sell 12 of one thing than 36 of another in most cases.

Also if you get bone and/or leather craft up, when you kill rams you can craft stuff right there, especially with leather since skins drop so often and so much(I've gotten 5-6 countless times). This saves room for more skins and it's profitable to craft them. However to get to rams first requires a thf/rng or rng/thf(post 50) since there is almost always competion or lucky people passing by.

Also with thf primary or subbed you can steal silver or mythril coins off beastmen, but you better have an exit near, or be high enough to kill them off (flee,hide,SA are such useful farming tools). Note steal rate is better with thf primary though and I can say steal rate is largely affected by level from personal experience, as well as other things such as timing etc. Stealing coins is normally a good "addition" to killing beastmen though, not as a primary farming technique, unless it's gold or higher really and you got thf AF(lots of +steal) and a 60+.

Point of post, there are so many ways to farm, I just covered the tip of the iceberg, do what you enjoy because you'll be farming lots if you plan on staying with the game.

EDit: since rdm could only equip rng or thf sub one at a time though, you'll most likely be farming something with very good drop rates while using /rng, or /thf but attacking stuff that you can find around every corner. Know what you're gonna do then level one sub. IMO this would be you're best course of action. And since rdm is a good solo job, preheps there are some things you could begin farming way before a thf(crappy solo) or many other jobs, it's up to you.

[Vinen]

TH does appear to help with rare ex drops at least it appeard to help a LOT with Unlit Lanterns in Ugglipeth / Den of Rancor. Took us 5 hours to get 3 one time without a thief, brought a thief with us killed 2 Maledictors and got 2 lanterns.

[Jonnyram]

That's what you call "good luck". Don't thank your THF so easily - try taking a THF along to all your item hunts, and you'll soon see what I mean ;)

[AtraposBLM]

in HNM's...it's so random that it's really hard to tell. I've been present for a total of 4 venomous claw drops from Serket and Genbu (I'm sure we've had more), 2 we had at least one thf, 2 we had no thf (other than /thf). Also, when the static I was in began to get paper off liches, we managed to find a lv60something thf that was willing to help us. We were there for ~3 hours, no drops of any kind. 1.5 hours was without thf, 1.5 hours was with. Thf leaves...we decide to kill one more lich. He drops the paper.

Other times, we'll be doing something with a thf...like clearing the place holders for the mob in Sea Serpent Grotto that drops Collossal Lance...and one of them drops Raise II. But then again, clearing diamond quads with a pld and a rdm, we got a scroll of raise II as well...

To be honest, I'll do what you're told to do to increase your chances until it gets silly, and just hope for the best. Too much shit in FFXI seems to be utterly random with no discernable order...but I figure it can never hurt o.O

[Gman]

Last night a PLD and a RDM helped me get paper. First Lich, Ancient Papyryus... I almost jumped out of my chair.. (although I did have THF sub :sweat: ) so this proves nothing :biggrin:

[Karinya]

Well, my experience has been that TH/TH2 help rare/ex drops. Subjob quest items, carbuncle ruby, keys for RSE, all dropped much more often when thieves were present. My last exp party in Crawlers Nest had a 45+ thf and we got so many Nest chest keys we started losing them because everyone already had one. I've had the same experience with scorpion stingers (also rare/ex) when my LS did RSE in Shakhrami, again with a TH2 thief. I think we got 10-12 patterns in 8 hours - partly because we know the chest locations well, but partly because we got keys pretty easily with a TH2 thief.

Sometime I'm going to try a rigorous statistical test - kill 100 of the same monster (that has a rare/ex drop) with BLM sub recording all the drops (and discarding the rare/ex one immediately so it can drop again), warp, come back and kill 100 more with THF sub and record the drops again. (For the third part - TH vs TH2 - I'd have to have a thf of the same level do the same thing and record their drops, which may be more difficult.) Maybe I'll do Bull Dhalmels - they have pretty decent normal drops (to sell) and a rare/ex drop I won't mind throwing away, and there's usually nobody hunting them on Carbuncle so I won't bother anyone too much or have excessive competition.

[Jaggywaggy]

This thread is hijacked, I'm partly response doh, at least I gave some farming advice before doing it. Just to note, yeterday, I helped someone get ruby in bub. ! leech nothing, 2nd leech ruby, 3rd leech ruby, 67% moon, *shurg*

As far as crawlers nest, In 3-4k xp, We got 4 keys I think.

Anyway since I'm posting again I might as well add something useful to rdm farming from observations.

Rdm/blm after you get -ga spells,make decent size trains with those nice rdm buffs on, and you get regen,refresh etc, melee and -ga as needed. You won't ahve to rest for mp either I'd assume, so use a weapon with AOE when you get the tp and skill lvl. Sword has a 150 AOE, daggar a 125 one, that I remember.

RDM has it easier than other jobs for avoiding downtime for almost everything they do especially post 41, once you have refresh and convert(although when solo I'd convert earlier if I was rdm since I'd have hate). For example, lets say you take 30thf for 30 rdm and pit them against copper,old,brass quadav(21-23 in pal) or some crawlers in bub. I'd have to take downtime
every 1-2 mobs, wm sub helps a little. A rdm however could do more before resting, that would be your strength to play off I suppose. A rdm+thf combo also makes a viable duo for team farming on harder mobs.

[Karinya]

RDM definitely benefits from team farming with a damage dealer. You don't really need a tank on easy prey or below - rdm can easily keep up with their damage output - but it often takes a while to kill monsters that are easy prey or close to it by yourself.

And, of course, a thief with TH2 is always good.

[modnar]

OK. Just my 2 cents.

Treasure hunter makes ALOT of difference. not just a little. I have been getting ALOT more drops with THF sub. Usualy enemies don't drop anything anymore. But now, I kill a few mobs and I am running out of space to carry the drops.

I am not regreting getting THF to lvl 15.

However, I do notice this: there are no drops when someone that does not have Treasure Hunter kills "deafeats" the mobs. The killing blow must be made by the THF or /THF in order for Treasure Hunter to work.

Also Weapon Skills have the same dilema. Something you kill with a WS will not get you the effect of Treasure Hunter.

I am not a mage, but I would suspect the same applies to killing mobs with spells.

So for me, I just make sure that the finishing blow is made from a normal strike, nothing else.

[Rubicon Scarlet]

I agree except when I went for coffer key in Castle Oztroja, I ate the Lucky Egg (TH2) and used a weapon skill for last hit and it dropped my key. We had no THFs and it was 4 hrs later that another key dropped. Last night, key hunt in Gusgen, I got last hit with a weapon skill on fly and it dropped key. 2 mobs later, I got last hit and it dropped 2nd key and we were thru.

Yeah I think the last hit thing with THF is viable, as it using a weapon skill last hit sub THF. You were talking about skill chains I think and I have no exp. on that subject.

[Karinya]

It's easy to develop superstitions about drop rates. That's why I suggested a statistical test (which I haven't done yet :p ).

I was in a papyrus party yesterday that got 4 papyrus in 6 hours, including travel time (we went to the beaucedine side, which I highly recommend - more liches, less adds). We had one TH2 and one TH1. Most papyrus parties I have heard of are lucky to get one per 2 hours. But then there's no way of telling how much was just good random numbers and how much was the TH abilities without much more extensive testing.

[Uroboros]

I don't think TH1 or 2 affect rare drop rates...they only increase the number of items you'd get anyways, therefore giving rares more possible slots to pop in. So it helps rares but indirectly. On the other hand we went to take some ppl on rank ups/ZMs with THF that has TH3 dagger and uh, drops were silly. 4+ drops from every mob, testimonies and coffer keys left and right. It was sexy. ^^x

[Patchinko]

TH1 does not affect rare drop rate.
TH2 does not affect rare/ex drop rate.
The myth that the THF needs to have the killing blow is false.

In terms of farming, there is a significant advantage for people with a THF sub at lvl15. It only takes about 6 hours to get THF to 15, and the amount of time saved farming makes up for it by far. The only times I've not used THF sub is when I was farming rams at lower levels (used /RNG) or very low level linking mobs, which I used /BLM for (for AOE spells and personal entertainment... I think /THF would have had at least the same item/time ratio).

[Jinxie]

The quickest way I found to make gil is to farm tigers in Jugner forest and Batilla Downs. You can get 2100gil per three fangs for the repeatable "fang Finder" quest in San'doria. That's 8400gil a stack. I can usually get at the very least a stack and a half in an hour with my THF sub. There are a couple of good camps for tigers in Jugner and in Batilla you should just run around cause they're all over. If you sub RNG you can use Widescan (My Fav ability of any job) which will help increase your kill rate, but you may get less drops.

The hides that they drop usually sell ok at the AH. They are part of another quest in Sandy. I just sell them to an NPC though so they won't take up room in my AH spaces.

[jenovabldrb]

ok well like after i do this chcobo quest i am goin back to lvl my blm and whm up to lvl 12 and i was wondering where should i lvl my lvl whm7 at while gettin good items to sell windurst, bastok, or sandy (my natioality is bastok) and same for my blm lvl 4. thanks.