Sick of FFXI

[JFKFC]

I have a 52 bard / 30 blm / 27 whm / 15 thf / 11 rdm / 5 war...

I am so sick of this game, there doesn't seem like there's anything fun to do.

I'm wondering if I can sell my FFXI software, or is it unusable because I have already used up the registration codes? What if I give it to a friend and have them change the credit card info?

Also, should I sell my gil to one of these gil stores? What's gonna happen, I'll get banned? lol

[ArcticZero]

Im sure you could let a friend take it over.. changing billing info is all that would need to happen..


If you get caught selling things they can ban the account.. thats about it.. most people just give all their stuff to friends in game then delete the char and roll..


All mmorpgs come to an end at some point.. seems like you have played it for a long time.. atleast you got some good play time out of it..

[Zalius]

I Quit ffxi mostly because cash is really a major problem. Out of all the mmo's i ever played i never had cash problems EXCEPT in ffxi.
i have 52 rdm, 30 thf, 30 mnk, 30 drg, 26 pld, 25 whm, 18 war, 11 drk, 11 brd, 11 sam, 10 Nin, 5 rng, 2 bst, 2 smn. The game really depresses me when its time to try to make gil, takes to long with little to no returns unless your very damned lucky. Also don;t say get a craft up.. can't do that with no money to do it with.

[exile2k3]

Originally posted by Zalius
I Quit ffxi mostly because cash is really a major problem. Out of all the mmo's i ever played i never had cash problems EXCEPT in ffxi.
i have 52 rdm, 30 thf, 30 mnk, 30 drg, 26 pld, 25 whm, 18 war, 11 drk, 11 brd, 11 sam, 10 Nin, 5 rng, 2 bst, 2 smn. The game really depresses me when its time to try to make gil, takes to long with little to no returns unless your very damned lucky. Also don;t say get a craft up.. can't do that with no money to do it with.

yes you can, you just have to farm all your materials

[Ayakino]

This is part of the reason all those JP players don't like us, we quit because we feel we've maxed out all the way that there's no more point in it. Why can't we all enjoy the game for what it is?

[Netrus]

why would that have anything to do with the JPs not liking us. i dont get it.

[Grayeyes]

FFXI is definitely one of the most demanding economies of NA MMORPGs. It's impossible to earn enough money to support yourself as you level. You simply level too fast to afford your equipment, and the items you get aren't worth enough to buy new equipment, because everyone else is getting them too!

FFXI makes you actually actively spend time earning money just so you can progress along with your level. Other games like EQ or DAOC have static rewards you get for defeating X amount of creatures, and static costs if you choose to buy things from a NPC.

If you don't enjoy earning money in FFXI, odds are you won't like the game. Quitting is a better option than paying money to do something you don't like.

[Xeross]

Originally posted by Grayeyes
FFXI is definitely one of the most demanding economies of NA MMORPGs. It's impossible to earn enough money to support yourself as you level. You simply level too fast to afford your equipment, and the items you get aren't worth enough to buy new equipment, because everyone else is getting them too!

FFXI makes you actually actively spend time earning money just so you can progress along with your level. Other games like EQ or DAOC have static rewards you get for defeating X amount of creatures, and static costs if you choose to buy things from a NPC.

If you don't enjoy earning money in FFXI, odds are you won't like the game. Quitting is a better option than paying money to do something you don't like.

Play lineage 2 for about 2 weeks. Then come back to ffxi.

FFXI is like 100000x easier when it comes to money. People seem to make the mistake in this game that hunting nm's is the only way to make a good amount of gil. Sometimes the "fast cash" isnt that fast.

I just farm normal enemies(leeches) that get me 15k per stack of blood. :D

Now it isnt as easy in earlier levels, but you can find ways of making cash other then killing enemies.

For example, when I was level 12 and sandy went to rank 1, I started buying claymores(about 2.4k I think) then would send them to a mule in bastok and sell them at the AH for 4.5-5k. Made about 10k over 3 days doing that. At level 12 thats not too shabby :D. Note:: I was only able to buy 1 at first, then 2, then 4. And stopped after that when more people were picking up on the idea.

[lares]

I fail to believe that the economy, especially of eq, is better or "easier" than that of ffxi. EQ i was a poor player for practically ever....there were no monsters that were around my level that had the chance of dropping some item that was worth a decent amount of money. So basically you level ground for a decent time dug up the best armor you could find (usually crap by standards) and just fought and not much else. The release of dungeons of norrath and such gave some much needed help to the economy, but only after you actually hit level 20 (you can't do any missions before that) so once again your screwed.

That and the auction areas in eq are so much more unstable and the prices are controlled by the few. Making money at least in ffxi is just a matter of knowing what you have when items drop.....i mean starting otu at level 1 killing worms you can get zinc ores 300gil a pop and then Amy quadavs for backplates for anywhere from 600gil to 1k. That can all be done while leveling. At around 14 15 you can try to camp lizzy(i'm from bastok the only one that i really know about at that level that has a worth while drop) which yes can take some time but while your camping the area your collecting more items for more money and if you only have an hour or less to play at one time, it's always a good thing to pad your money.

Personally i was rather poor till about 30 when i killed leaping lizzy and got boots, then at 40 did a couple bcnm's made some very good cash there and i was insane and decided to camp monster signa one week and that went for 390k. Yes this took a nice chunck of time.

As for a frame of reference of what i've been doing and my bills: 48blm with most spells besides some -ga/20smn with all trial by size quests completed which was a nice money sink/22whm/11 nin and cooking at 27.

To me this economy has been somewhat of a breath of fresh air, there's ways to make money while leveling at any level and farming isn't especially difficult even without a th thf main/sub.

*as for the original post to at least have something on topic, yeah i believe that all you would have to do is change the information billing etc and then giving it to a freind should be fine. Just don't go advertising it for the account suspension could happen, thats why it would be recommended that you delete the character that you had just so someone doesn't mistake the new person for you.

[Arximiro]

Just take about a month Break then come back, It will probably fix any doubts you have about not liking the game. Ive had tons of friends Quit for a month or 2 and come back and love the game again so ID recommend trying that before you jus give up all your hard work.

[Dragon Ghost]

Yeah at lower levels money can be a problem. At while leveling Samurai I farmed in Toadstool Pass,in Ghesbla. Which is the cave with toadstools. Dark Crystals and Mushrooms. ^^

[Eropiro]

sometime alls u have to do is look around for money or even go one one of the EF's that ur town is doing. It takes a while sometimes but u will be able to do it after u get into it. I don't think that the lack of money is the problem that u r facing about the game. Perhaps boredom? Anyways I would just recomend quitting for three weeks or so. Then u will have a frsh take on what FFXI really is. :)

[obsidian]

Just "give" someone the account and then sell them the mandatory FFXI box for $200. I'm sorry but no one but the US government is going to stop me from selling anything.

[Grayeyes]

My comment wasn't so much reflecting the "difficulty" of earning money so much as the boredom of it. If you spend an hour hunting leeches, are you really doing a worthwhile activity you'd like to pay for? If you're camping leaping lizzie, are you doing something you enjoy? If both of those answers are yes, then that's perfect! You have a game you always enjoy.

If you hate killing critters worth little or no exp for no reason other than the fact you need the cash, then why do it? If you find waiting for a NM to pop boring, why do it? If you actually stop and measure how much time you spend performing activities to earn the money necessary for advancement in FFXI, you'll find it IS a major time investment.

[Xccoortri]

I know I'm being a jerkass here, but lots of what I'm hearing can be translated into one succinct sentance:
"Wah wah wah, you actually have to work to make enough money in this game to buy good stuff wah wah wah"

I know that's harsh, but basically, finding a challenging game in north america is near impossible these days, and square has given us a taste of what other companies should be doing. How many people could sit down and beat a game like ninja gaiden, the mario worlds, and other old games in a few hours with almost no challenge like most games these days? We are too used to these half assed games and when a challenge does come along people like to complain a lot about it.

[Xeross]

Originally posted by Xccoortri
I know I'm being a jerkass here, but lots of what I'm hearing can be translated into one succinct sentance:
"Wah wah wah, you actually have to work to make enough money in this game to buy good stuff wah wah wah"

I know that's harsh, but basically, finding a challenging game in north america is near impossible these days, and square has given us a taste of what other companies should be doing. How many people could sit down and beat a game like ninja gaiden, the mario worlds, and other old games in a few hours with almost no challenge like most games these days? We are too used to these half assed games and when a challenge does come along people like to complain a lot about it.

Err... Yes this game can be very diffecult, but the thing they are complaning about in this thread is not the diffeculty, its the monotany. Farming is not even close to being diffecult, its just time consuming.

[EtRNaL168]

"Farming is not even close to being diffecult, its just time consuming."

^Thus difficult ^^;

[JFKFC]

Thansk for the replies, I decided to give all of my gil away since my account only officially ends at the end of the month. I sold a lot of gear on Ah and made about 400k in 2 days by doing so, just running around Jeuno gving 20-30k here and there and 100k for a couple of very good friends.

It feels good, certainly doesn't feel like a waste because I really don't think I will want to come back. I've enjoyed the game very much and it is now time for me to let it go. Lot of people are sad to see a bard go tho, hehe.

[kitzkozan]

Good decision,as when it is time to move on you simply just move on.

I,on the contrary already know I am here for over a year.I will still be playing FF XI after the release of World of Warcraft or Everquest 2.Why?I simply love the game and want to get everything that I can out of it.Meaning I want to experience dynamis,the higher level mission and hunting HNM :biggrin:

Part of the reason why I love the game is because this is the FF I was waiting for a long time.A full 3d immersive world finally with no random encounter.Not to mention that it is by far the hardest FF of them all and perhaps the most hardcore mmorpg out there(nah probably Lineage).This is a very very good game although very hard on most mmorpg newbie.I always see dead bodies everywhere in beginner zone.Earning the best gear is insanely hard and only a few will be able to get it.In fact,making it to the very top is not something everyone will do.Demand a lot of investment and a lot of gil farming but in my opinion it's going to be worth it as you will be able to fight the real last storyline boss and defeat the angels.

The expansion also cannot come out soon enough :cool:

[Helltaru]

I really don't think it is any harder to stay well equipped in FF XI, than it is in other MMORPGS. Take Everquest for example, that game is extremely newbie unfriendly when it comes to the economy, and the only real way to earn money is to camp static spawns. There also comes a point where the gear you can buy from players just doesn't cut it anymore, if you want to continue to progress your character you have to join a raiding guild. If you think sitting on your ass for six hours to fight a monster that takes anywhere from 15 minutes-1 hour+ to kill, only to have it drop loot that you have next to no chance in getting due to the stiff competition for said item is fun, you might want to check it out.

You might want to check out www.guildwars.com they are having an open beta during e3, it was made by former Blizard employees, alot of MMORPGS claim to be casual player friendly, but this is the only one I have played that is actually casual player friendly.

[Wildstar]

I really don't think it's worth getting worked about a game like this. I'm speaking from experience. I played in the import but got frustrated by the language barrier. Then started up again in NA PC version but got frustrated trying to keep up with fast-leveling friends.

Then, having observed what happened to me in those two cases yet still interested enough to play, I started fresh with the PS2 version. I play when I get a chance (several times a week, an hour or two most nights, usually one long session one weekend night). Now it's fun again!

I don't fixate on what level I am and what level I want to be. I don't fixate on what that next item I'll equip will be. That's all treadmill stuff, and it comes when it comes anyway. I try to just relax and do what I imagined I'd be doing anyway when I was looking forward to FFXI: having fun just plain playing. I help new people out now, sometimes taking whole nights off from exp'ing. And sure, sometimes I get into cool exp pt's and pick up a nice level or two. Sometimes I spend more time chatting or farming or working the AH for profit, or doing quests. Whatever seems fun, that's what I do. I'm also lucky to have two nice LS to chat in, and that really adds a nice dimension to the game.

If you're done with the game, you're done. But if the reason you are leaving is your fixation on hitting newer, higher levels and accruing newer gear and more gil at a faster pace, then I'd say you're more a victim of in-game commercialism than anything else. No one's forcing you to level up. No one's forcing you to farm all the time. You could just... play! In other words, try to enjoy the journey, not just the mental image of the destination at the end of the journey.

But all that is just my opinion, and since I read that you've already distributed your gil and items and are close (or already) out, well... there you go! Kudos to you for helping out your friends on your way out, that's always a nice way to exit.

I'm sorry the game got to be a grind for you. And I always hated that word when used in game-play-terms: "grind." It sounds so un-fun. I'd rather have a dozen level 1-30 jobs than one job 60+ that had long since even resembled a fun time. But, then again, I had to learn that the hard way. And some are SO determined to try for the pinacle, they will give up the thousands of hours it takes to get to that imaginary digital "place" only to find they missed out on the opportunities for fun (in and out of the game) along the way. Hmm...

[EpsilonPhoenix]

I wholeheartedly agree.

You could have taken some time to just explore, chat, etc. $10 says that it would have made you enjoy the game a whole lot more.

But I guess it's too late now. ^_^

[Grayeyes]

Originally posted by Wildstar
I really don't think it's worth getting worked about a game like this. I'm speaking from experience. I played in the import but got frustrated by the language barrier. Then started up again in NA PC version but got frustrated trying to keep up with fast-leveling friends.

Then, having observed what happened to me in those two cases yet still interested enough to play, I started fresh with the PS2 version. I play when I get a chance (several times a week, an hour or two most nights, usually one long session one weekend night). Now it's fun again!

I don't fixate on what level I am and what level I want to be. I don't fixate on what that next item I'll equip will be. That's all treadmill stuff, and it comes when it comes anyway. I try to just relax and do what I imagined I'd be doing anyway when I was looking forward to FFXI: having fun just plain playing. I help new people out now, sometimes taking whole nights off from exp'ing. And sure, sometimes I get into cool exp pt's and pick up a nice level or two. Sometimes I spend more time chatting or farming or working the AH for profit, or doing quests. Whatever seems fun, that's what I do. I'm also lucky to have two nice LS to chat in, and that really adds a nice dimension to the game.

If you're done with the game, you're done. But if the reason you are leaving is your fixation on hitting newer, higher levels and accruing newer gear and more gil at a faster pace, then I'd say you're more a victim of in-game commercialism than anything else. No one's forcing you to level up. No one's forcing you to farm all the time. You could just... play! In other words, try to enjoy the journey, not just the mental image of the destination at the end of the journey.

But all that is just my opinion, and since I read that you've already distributed your gil and items and are close (or already) out, well... there you go! Kudos to you for helping out your friends on your way out, that's always a nice way to exit.

I'm sorry the game got to be a grind for you. And I always hated that word when used in game-play-terms: "grind." It sounds so un-fun. I'd rather have a dozen level 1-30 jobs than one job 60+ that had long since even resembled a fun time. But, then again, I had to learn that the hard way. And some are SO determined to try for the pinacle, they will give up the thousands of hours it takes to get to that imaginary digital "place" only to find they missed out on the opportunities for fun (in and out of the game) along the way. Hmm...

Well said.