View Full Version : Paladin or Knight? Name preference.
Kiyosuki
04-27-2004, 02:51 PM
Just out of random, it serves no real purpose. I always wanted to ask Paladin players this.
In the English speaking version of the game, the class is called Paladin. In many parts of the Japanese original, the class is often referred to as "Naito", or katakanaized "Knight".
Which would you have perferred in the translated version? Do you like the name Paladin more? Or would you have perferred Knight?
Paladin is cool, its often the image of a defender, and the whole Defensive melee with some white magic motif's often associated with the name. Knight has a cool ring to it though..
Atoman
04-27-2004, 03:27 PM
Yeah my LS leader who has been playing the jp version for a few years told me about the translation. I really like the idea of knight better then pld, but I think holy knight would be even cooler.:)
Nodoka
04-27-2004, 04:14 PM
Naito is Paladin? >.> That explains alot. XD
But then.. what's Knight? o.O
skoreanime
04-28-2004, 04:53 AM
Yeah, I was also thinking that the title "Holy Knight" for Paladins would've been cool. I mean, DRK's are basically the opposite of Paladins, and they have Knights in their title :spin:.
Sanhime
04-28-2004, 05:03 AM
I believe SE chose to use the word "Paladin" over "Knight" in the JP -> Eng transition, because of their (reasonable) presumption that most NA RPG players tend to lean more toward D&D-like style cliche.
However, I also think for anyone who has the Japanese version also recognizes that PLD = Naito. This is even before US version was released. Though I'm not entirely sure, since I only had a limited experience in playing the JP version before the NA version came out.
Quezi
04-28-2004, 06:46 AM
I really think that paladin fits better considering the abilities and whatnot.
Really if i was to pick anything to be called knight, it would probibly be drg..
I gues "Holy Knight" as someone mentioned above would have been ok. But the white magic in there really means that there needs to be something a bit more er.. holy, about the whole thing=P So paladin . knight.
A knight is someone who is basicly a fighter who has sworn an oath and is part of either a king or lords personal er.. dedicated.. fighting force, which is heavily supplemented in times of war with peasant forces, sometimes untrained, other times also consisting of a sort of special section of trained peasents.. *english longbowmen are an example of this, peasents but expected to martialy train themselves somewhat* Think of the knights as the officers .
The immage of a paladin tho has always been associated more with the old knightly orders such as the templars, the teutonic knights, the hospitalers, and soforth. These where basicly a cros between a monk and a knight, and not simply fighters. *I must point out that while these orders did fight in the crusades, they are not to be confused with the average crusader, while looting was common in war and there was rape and pillage and whatnot, as far as history shows, most knightly orders took no real part in it, swearing oaths of poverty and more or less really being 'ok'.. atleast when there where people watching=P. They always had a more defensive role, hell the hospitalers where just that.. they where a medical force that eventualy saw the need for defence in the field, and evolved into a military force, the templars where there to defend pilgrims on their trips to the holy land, the teutonic knights did decide to invade poland, but they lost so all is well=P (and they where german, you cant blame a german for decideing he wants to invade something, now can you? You would have to blaim birds for flying first ;)
This immage was somewhat shocking when it first came up, there where holy people, and then there where fighters, clerics where prohibited from useing edged weapons because they may shed blood *which is not really true, as blunt force can make a good deal of blood, and i always thought it was because maces looked kinda like septers.. but oh well*, anyway the point is, really holy pure people just didint kill, hell the byzantine soldiers even did special penance for each and every time they killed someone in the field, so you can think what happend when you get an armed force of fighters takeing monastic vows.... This was the talk of the town, and resulted in a large influx of new recruits=P
So i think calling a paladin a knight is a little off...
perry
04-28-2004, 10:47 AM
pal·a·din ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pl-dn)
n.
A paragon of chivalry; a heroic champion.
A strong supporter or defender of a cause: “the paladin of plain speaking� (Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.).
Any of the 12 peers of Charlemagne's court.
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[French, from Italian paladino, from Late Latin paltnus, palatine. See palatine1.]
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knight ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nt)
n.
Abbr. Knt. or Kt. A medieval tenant giving military service as a mounted man-at-arms to a feudal landholder.
Abbr. Knt. or Kt. A medieval gentleman-soldier, usually high-born, raised by a sovereign to privileged military status after training as a page and squire.
Abbr. K. A man holding a nonhereditary title conferred by a sovereign in recognition of personal merit or service to the country.
Abbr. Knt. or Kt. A man belonging to an order or brotherhood.
A defender, champion, or zealous upholder of a cause or principle.
The devoted champion of a lady.
Abbr. Kt or N Games. A chess piece, usually in the shape of a horse's head, that can be moved two squares along a rank and one along a file or two squares along a file and one along a rank. The knight is the only piece that can jump other pieces to land on an open square.
tr.v. knight·ed, knight·ing, knights
To raise (a person) to knighthood.
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[Middle English, from Old English cniht.]
I'd pick 'paladin' over 'knight', purely for aesthetic reasons. I just like how the word sounds, but from perry's description up there, 'paladin' seems to fit ffxi's job class a little more than 'knight'.
Also for some strange reason I'm oddly given to the nickname 'pally'.
I like Paladin over knight, because it lets someone know they are more defensive than offensive, and able to use white magic. I would not like the Holy Knight name, because I am hoping SE will add a Holy Knight class that can use swordskills ala FFT (Crush Punch, Lightning Stab, Holy Explosion, etc.).
Corrderio
05-03-2004, 05:16 AM
I do like PLD more, since in FF1 there were actually Paladins, when your fighter became a knight, since they used white magic, my guess woudl be they called them a Knight woudl be because they couldn't fit Paladin or something
But a PLDs AF is similar to Cecil's armor, so I think they called them PLDs so ppl wouldn't get confused
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