NA - Liars / Scammers / Cheaters?

[Stanislav]

I am sorry to post this kind of post becuase most of you have seen one of this type before. This mainly is focused towards Siren Server which has a fairly small NA population and that might be the main problem.

Let me start off saying that by most people I am considered "Slime, Crook, Scammer, Cheater etc..." on Siren.

The weird part about this is, no one will ever have any backup to what they say about me on Siren, but I noticed NA do not care if there is backup and they will prefer to have a target they can flame anytime. With the little friends I have left on Siren that have not had time to use me yet told me that in some linkshells are have pearls for spend 50% of the time talking bullshit about me and a couple other high level players of Siren which are NA.

This thread was inspired by what happened yesterday. My linkshell and I went to camp Simurgh and while we got there the opposing LS that has some people I truely hate since I began this game becuase of their immaturity.

They took the time to message every member of my party and tell them that "I will rip them off like I have ripped off others" (What others? Where is the backup). They basically took out every member of my party except 3. Did I forget to mention these people that are my enemy used to be part of my LS? I remember when they were in my LS they hated a certain person which I was friends with and wouldn't let me get them to join the LS, this person was in the Simurgh party, too piss me off they stooped so low as to invite this person into their party.

Anyway people of siren see me as some evil person but usually when someone messages me and talks to me for atleast 10 minutes they say, "Wow, people say your a bad person but you seem very nice."

Ayaa on Siren is an importer level 70 warrior and is the best at spreading this rumors becuase If I ask who told you they will say (Ayaa). Ayaa tells everyone I steal etc...

These rumors mainly come from the following things...

#1 While in the 60s I made a set party which lasted till 68, I asked the party if we go to Labyrinth of Onzozo and we Assault Jerkin drop, first one that drops will be mine becuase its is a very good item for ninja and will benefit the party. EVERYONE SAID OK. When it did drop our Dragoon got a higher lot then me and refused to pass so another member of the party kicked him out for a moment so the drop will go to me. The person was mad for around 30 minutes but I told him that I promised we would get him one (Next day we got another and it was his). He said he never said anything to everyone but for some reason everyone thinks I am the one that kicked him out and that I stole it from him eventhough he promisde that I could have it.

#2 While I was still in the early 60s we decided to camp Steelfleece and Bloodtear and I invited a level 60 WHM out of our LS to join. We got 2 Viking Shields in one day and he was there both times. For the first shield which I was selling at AH he was intitled to 25k which he got from me. Shield 2 was sold by another LS member who said she will take responsibily for it. She split the share and forgot about the WHM. When the WHM messaged me I told him that I was not the one to sell that shield and to message the person that did. The person basically told the WHM it was all my fault etc... and in the end we ended up getting 33k out of each persons share and giving it to him. I am considered a bad guy becuase of something that was not even my responsibility.

#3 From the shield that I sold I took 10k out of everyone shares which was 160k each but I said 150k each and I used it so I could level with the people the that got the shield with me. These people had me on everyday to make a party for them and I was never given time to farm for money. They bitched over 10K... 10K.... I admit it was wrong to take 10K but the plan to to return it within a couple days which I did. 10K is nothing and it was too the benefit of the SET PT. One of the people in the party had 700k of gear lent out from me and he was the one that bitched the most over 10K!! Basically even though what I did was wrong in a way... I feel like used by the SET PT. I was yet again blame for a BIG SCAM over 10k..

Personally none of this is big and from the past 2 days the people that spread these rumors about me... Stole HNMs from other LS by spamming Provoke till the other people lost aggro and using Provoke hack (No way can an NA player voke something without any real notice right the second it POPs due to the 4 second lag) and more and they do not consider this bad.

I just don't understand how people can be this crazy as too consider me a bad person where I only one time did something bad and it only was considered 10k.

Also I got messaged las night saying

">> We will continue to ruin your reputation, now that almost every single NA wants nothing to do with you. We will not begin to ruin your reputation among JPN Players"

GMs said that the only way to get Grief players out of the game is to spread rumors but what to do if their method is being used in reverse?

People of siren and NA in general need to stop listining to rumors and really getting the Information.

Tell me what you think.. I feel like ranting today.

[Mikasa]

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[lun4tic]

What a great post Mikasa, TWO THUMBS UP!!! Idiot.

I've never had a bad rep, but obviously Siren is filled with some reall crappy people. The best thing to do is continue on as best you can showing people that you aren't who they claim you are, and ask them not to beleive everything they hear and maybe dispel some stupid rumors.

I've got a great rep on Seraph just by making friends and leveling normally. I've had to stop rumors where they start about certain people who've I had enjoyed partying with. If I can stop rumors, maybe other people can too.

[perry]

I dont blame him for that post. I had to draw a flowchart to figure out what happened.

A) Look, you shorted people money. While you insist that its was only 10K, and not a big deal, the other people are thinking the same thing. They probably dont understand why you wanted to jepordaize your friendship for such a small amount of gil. You would have asked if you would have thought they would have said yes, and you didnt ask or they wouldnt have been mad. This will create mistrust.

2) Did you list the events in the order they happened? If not, see the last senctance above.

C) These people sound like a bunch a of little girls. What happened seems trivial at best. People have the need to create drama every where they go. Blacklist them all now to save yourself some anguish. Do some crafting for a week. They will back off, and everyone will forget all about it.


Hmmm? What was the name of the guy who stole stuff again? Cant remember .... began with a T ... I think ... Oh well.

[Stanislav]

I picked up this novice dragoon to prove a point to another friend that I will level fast with dragoon in party becuase dragoons do not suck.

This dragoon is was the one who made a fuss over 10k and the one who had 700k of my Dragoon's gear lend of to him. I will always remmeber what he said to me when I was creating a party for him.

As some of you that PT with JPN and create the parties know that if you are unable to explain to them where a member taht si coming then its better that the person is there.

I asked the dragoon to come to jeuno while he is farming becuase the party is almost ready and he said, "Why? I don't want to waste my time in jeuno, call me when ready". I make a party for him and he doesn't want to waste time? Why should I waste my time?

The only reason I borrowed it was becuase they would have never lent it to me becuase they are greedy as hell and the only way to had money to level with them was to do that. The money was given back once I was done with it.

Once again... It's 10k only which can be made within 15 minutes easy (If you know where to farm and these people know). I would have not been pissed if it was 100k because that would clearly be crazy.

(Sorry if my posts are not organised, its due to dyslexia)

[Nexus]

hm... Im not a siren player but a leve server. yes we had so called "scammers." some Ass's Like to spread False stuff. Half the Na "Scammers" didnt do anythn' The ppl who started it just dont like there class style. Yes we have some Bad ppl. Someone who wiould critizize u cause ur a RDM healing another person. We had our share of asses. Its all gone now.

[Mikasa]

What a great post Mikasa, TWO THUMBS UP!!! Idiot.

O_O

[Axil]

damn that sucks :( you could always wait for server migration or just quit, your 74 already, just get 75 and quit if its taht bad

[Stanislav]

I might just wait for a server migration

[Dux]

Hi Stanislav.

I have seen you at the AH in Upper Jeuno with some guy saying "Don't Trust Stanislav, heal steals." etc etc etc. To be honest I generally don't belirve such unprovable cliaims anyway as I know from other on-line games people get very upset over:
1) Trivial Items or amounts of money
2) You are better than them and as a result of your better gaming make them look / feel bad.

Most people will judge a person by their own merrits not soley based on the rantings of one individual who iobvious has an axe to grind.

[sagitta85]

I'm on Siren and I have no problem with other people. I like the server and I will never leave it.

[EpsilonPhoenix]

I don't think it's very wise to classify all North Americans as cheaters just because of a bad experence..

[Tapela]

I believe your attitude contributes to such a reputation. I still remember when i was in your set party, your attitude was horrendous as pointed out by the other members.

Not to mention i believe i remember ayron telling me you never split the guaardian crawler money with him before he quit, so was that "so small it wasnt worth mentioning" or what?

Oh well i don't know, but i'm not sure i can say i exactly trust you given your attitude towards me in that party, and no i don't think i deserved it, i never said anything back not even when saying i was leaving the set party.

[Stanislav]

Originally posted by Tapela
I believe your attitude contributes to such a reputation. I still remember when i was in your set party, your attitude was horrendous as pointed out by the other members.

Not to mention i believe i remember ayron telling me you never split the guaardian crawler money with him before he quit, so was that "so small it wasnt worth mentioning" or what?

Oh well i don't know, but i'm not sure i can say i exactly trust you given your attitude towards me in that party, and no i don't think i deserved it, i never said anything back not even when saying i was leaving the set party.

You need to consider who to judge becuase you attitude is horrible aswell so check yourself. I have a short temper so it pissed me off that you did not PROVOKE when I was casting Utsusemi even though I asked you 100 times, after 100 times its just that either you cant play or your stupud.

I don't know why Ayron would communicate with you becuase he told me he hated you and though you were a moron. Anyway Guardian Crawler money, I do not recall there being any Guardian Crawler money, why would Ayron have anything to do with Guaridan Crawler at all? I also that thing on my Dragoon when I was farming how could a level 35 RNG or Level 36 NIN help me in anyway. Please check what you say.

Also the reason I was mean to you is becuase you were 1 level behind us and I asked you to catch up but what you did is gain 2 levels.. Then I went and caught up with you so we would be on the same level and you decided that was wrong and went on a mood rampage becuase I bitched at you when you leveled without the party and it wa sokay for me to level (There is a difference with passing the party members and catching up to them). Once again think of yourself before you judge others.

[Stanislav]

Originally posted by sagitta85
I'm on Siren and I have no problem with other people. I like the server and I will never leave it.
You are way to lwo level to notice anything... Once you get a little higher and you have seen or talked with every people over level 50 then you will see what I tam talking about.

[Tapela]

And he shows his horrible attitude :). See what i mean? I didnt provoke? I provoked all the time, you just got mad because i didnt provoke in 00.1 seconds flat, which can be hard, you trying to blink tank mandragoras and all. And you even made a macro insulting me, again you insult me but i don't say anything back because that would be low.


I was not mad that you leveled passed me, i had it with your attitude, that you were such a hypocrite that you could bitch someone else out for a few hours straight for leveling one level and a half up (trying to help someone in qufim before disbanding) and then turn around and do it yourself and expect nothing, you also always left everyone behind when leading (ayron and everyone mentioned this).


I don't know what ayron said about me, its his business, i'll ask him if its true though. But he said bad stuff about you alot (with being selfish, and leaving us behind when parties ended for the day, and your attitude).

Also ayron DID mention about the guardian crawler, you were doing it together and he never got his share he said. But he didnt hold it as much of a big deal, just another "thing" that happened.

We were good friends, always talked and i'm saddened that he quit so i don't know why you say he said such horrible things about me, i don't hold it against him if he did though, anyone would do something drastic in a game like this, its another reason i quit the set party. I'd rather keep my dignity and soul than sell out and get to a higher level, i chose to help my friends.


In the end i just couldnt take it anymore, so i left. So yeah continue to show your true self, you arent helping anyone =).


Good luck with the reputation!

[Stanislav]

The macro was a joke and it had no insults in it as I recall it said something like "Tapela Provoke during Utsusemi or I will kick you ass" and It was truely a joke.

As for me bitching at you is becuase you did 2 levels instead of 1 and you were AHEAD OF EVERYONE. All I did was catch up to you. There is nothing hypocritcal about that, I did not pass you.

Ayron said this about you couple times and he acted all nice to me etc.. I personally think if he talks shit about me while he talks to you and talks shit about you while he talks to me then he is two-faced.

Guardian Crawler? Once again I repeat why would a Ranger or Ninja of level 35 help a level 63 DRG/SAM farm?

He quit becuase he was tired of idiots that don't even know what a THF does by level 35+ (Which was his last job that he made after all of us split up) but I am not 100% sure.

You say you left like it slowed anyone down in anyway or it was a big deal, you were a person that I knew from somewhere else that I decided to pick up and help level. You left and only slowed yourself down judging by you level. You left in the 30s and now you only in the 40s while I am 1 level from MAX.

I do not care if some people think that I may act like an asshole,I will be a nice guy if they are nice to me and if they not moronic. I have a short temper and that is nothing I can change at the moment. The focus of this thread is that I have never actually stolen anything or did anything horrible and that certain people of Siren are trying to ruin my reputation to benefit themselves.

You are known to be a drama queen by some and that is exactly what Ayron called you at one point as I recall.

Have fun playing FFXI.

[tracert]

gamezilla i've known you for 1 1/2 ~ 2 years now... and i know for a fact that you are a Liar / Scammer / Cheater...


oh... still have that smoothie machine?

[Stanislav]

Originally posted by tracert
gamezilla i've known you for 1 1/2 ~ 2 years now... and i know for a fact that you are a Liar / Scammer / Cheater...


oh... still have that smoothie machine?

Please do not post bullshit if you do not have anything to contribute.

If you say I am a Liar / Scammer / Cheater then please back it up with proof.

[tracert]

Originally posted by Stanislav


Please do not post bullshit if you do not have anything to contribute.

If you say I am a Liar / Scammer / Cheater then please back it up with proof.


uh... i would but it's not relative to this game or the people of these forums... and i was half way joking you were always cool in my book except when you tried to act above everyone because you have a rich mommy and daddy...

[Stanislav]

Originally posted by tracert



uh... i would but it's not relative to this game or the people of these forums... and i was half way joking you were always cool in my book except when you tried to act above everyone because you have a rich mommy and daddy...

I will admit I tend to act better sometimes but thats how I am.

As for the rich mommy and daddy, If I did have a rich mommy and daddy then I would already have a Scorpion Harness and all the godly gear that I want... Please don't make assumptions.

[tracert]

Originally posted by Stanislav


I will admit I tend to act better sometimes but thats how I am.

As for the rich mommy and daddy, If I did have a rich mommy and daddy then I would already have a Scorpion Harness and all the godly gear that I want... Please don't make assumptions.


meh... i assumed they were rich because... you always said they were... oh and they bought/gave you a hosting company when you were what 12?

[Stanislav]

Originally posted by tracert



meh... i assumed they were rich because... you always said they were... oh and they bought/gave you a hosting company when you were what 12?

They gave me nothing, I started with a free host personal site which grew into a Emulation site and made me around $2000 off ads and then I moved to Anime site and that made me around $3000 and I decided to buy couple webboxes after becoming friends with 123 Webcreations. I worked for it all myself from 0% to 100% so please dont say anything. Anyway this is off topic please don't do that again.

[tracert]

Originally posted by Stanislav


They gave me nothing, I started with a free host personal site which grew into a Emulation site and made me around $2000 off ads and then I moved to Anime site and that made me around $3000 and I decided to buy couple webboxes after becoming friends with 123 Webcreations. I worked for it all myself from 0% to 100% so please dont say anything. Anyway this is off topic please don't do that again.

hmmm people always said your parents gave it to you and you never corrected them... but yeah this is off topic and everyone is probably standing around scratching thier head right now..

[Sototh]

I have no idea who you are, as I am on Titan. but for sure you do look like a little spoiled asshole :spin:

ah, and that was even my first post ever!

[Thelps]

All I can say is if you want this business to die down try being nice and reasonable to everyone (including your critics). They'll complain and spread rumours and whatnot but if you respond in a calm, reasonable, unemotional manner then either they'll think you've changed and leave you alone, or get bored of not getting any good reactions and leave you alone. Either way I think with a different attitude you could probably reverse your reputation within a mattaer of a month or so at most. Remember it's just a game and people don't form lifelong grudges over it so I'm sure people will be willing to reconsider their attitude to you.

[Jifan]

1st off, I dont dislike you Stan, but you are a scammer.

You scammed those people out of that money, wgaf if they didnt give you time to Farm, You can say no. You had no right to scam them out of that 150k from that shield. Plus you are an idiot. You effectivly dropped the price of that shield 600k. You f*cked them out of even more money.

I dont even know if you made it to 74 nin, but I can check very easily since you run around Lower Jueno like a damn monkey spamming Ut: ni.

Stop lying and acting like a kid and maybe these so called rumors wont be floating around. All I know is you are the so called trash of Siren. So many people have you blisted.

[lun4tic]

At one point in Yuhtunga I pulled a goblin pathfinder who had tamed a wasp. The wasp effectively linked with every other wasp we passed so I zoned it.

I came back from Yuhtunga and there was somebody flaming me, I couldn't see the person so I hit Tab and found an invisible Galka bitching about the goblin and the zone. Think about that, a wussy galka shouting at me while standing next to me, hiding behind invisibility, whining about the zone. Nobody got killed but the white mage when he tried to heal me as I zoned. The white mage in his party went to raise our white mage, and the galka tried to convince him not too while calling us dicks and assholes.

His name was Skull, and he effectively made himself into an asshole rather then me and my party. Sometimes saying less, or saying enough(giving the other person enough time to make themselves sound like an idiot) can turn the other person into a foil, which effectively gives him a bad rep instead of you.

[obsidian]

Originally posted by lun4tic
At one point in Yuhtunga I pulled a goblin pathfinder who had tamed a wasp. The wasp effectively linked with every other wasp we passed so I zoned it.

I came back from Yuhtunga and there was somebody flaming me, I couldn't see the person so I hit Tab and found an invisible Galka bitching about the goblin and the zone. Think about that, a wussy galka shouting at me while standing next to me, hiding behind invisibility, whining about the zone. Nobody got killed but the white mage when he tried to heal me as I zoned. The white mage in his party went to raise our white mage, and the galka tried to convince him not too while calling us dicks and assholes.

His name was Skull, and he effectively made himself into an asshole rather then me and my party. Sometimes saying less, or saying enough(giving the other person enough time to make themselves sound like an idiot) can turn the other person into a foil, which effectively gives him a bad rep instead of you.
Uh ya, you were an asshole. Anyone who trains that many mobs to the zone in the jungle is an idiot. Learn how to pull or die.

[Cali]

Basically, rep is built on attitude toward others, not playing skill or rumor... I once killed a party by stupid mistake(which I was mad at myself for, and didn't party for a week after that), but that same party invited me again the next day...(I denied, but they did try to invite me again) so, bad playing skill won't get you bad rep.

Just rumor alone won't hurt no rep, say I go around saying Mr A is a b**tard who train newbies for fun.. but Mr A actually help newbies more than he hunt for money.. then my rumor won't work...

I have never met you, since we are different server, so there will be no proof or backup or whatever you need... but try to reconsider your attitude to people, from your post in this thread, you sounded like an angry aggressive person to me, but well, you might be mad from the rep thing... anyway, if you help people, and are kind to anyone around, the rumor can't hurt your rep...

About taking 10k off, yup, you are wrong to do that, simply asking them before taking commission off is simpler, and fair-er... everyone spent the same effort on the shield hunt, so it should be a fair share of loot money, but if someone decided to take money out without asking, no one would like it.
It's the same as one of my friend heard in qufim: 'NIN cost so much to play, is your party gonna pay you?'; you didn't earn exp when you party with them? or are they afking while you solo the 5 people's lvl? Possibly neither is true, you guys probably fought as a team, which mean... by taking 10k out from everyone share is same as saying 'You should be glad I helped you lvl'
BUT I doubt the 10k would ruin your rep, nor will people hold grudge on it for so long

So, amen on your rep regaining

[Netrus]

if im right the main poster did say he repaid the 10k back in like a day or two. even tho he didnt give fair warning he did pay them back so i wouldnt think anybody would be "fired up" about that. i could wait like 2 days for 10k but i aint a high lvl so it might be more vital at 70s..anyways they got the money back regardless so yea it was wrong to take it without asking but he sed he paid it back so surely youd think theyd get over the 10k. Because it all came back sooner than later.

[Stanislav]

Originally posted by Netrus
if im right the main poster did say he repaid the 10k back in like a day or two. even tho he didnt give fair warning he did pay them back so i wouldnt think anybody would be "fired up" about that. i could wait like 2 days for 10k but i aint a high lvl so it might be more vital at 70s..anyways they got the money back regardless so yea it was wrong to take it without asking but he sed he paid it back so surely youd think theyd get over the 10k. Because it all came back sooner than later.

Thank you, and like I said I did not deny that what I did was bad.

Also Jifan... I did not really drop the price... I have 2 Viking Shields for over a month and they werent selling they were set at 1,200,000 for a week and half and then I set it for 1mil and it sold right way and the second one right after it.

Also I aint 74 lol I am 73 and 10k away from 74 (I havnt been able to play for 2 days or else I would be 74 now)

And for the other guy, I said that I treat others like they treat me, if they treat me nice I will treat them nice.

For the shield that I sold, I camped it witha RDM and we got the the Bloodtear but cause RDM lagged I died from MAX HP DOWN I called a WHM friend and also said in LS chat that I died and WHM is coming.. Then the whole LS came over without being invited by me (My fault for sayin that I died) and basically they were not needed at all, I was really pissed about that. I really couldn't tell me LS members to leave but at the same tiem they were never invited. The ones that were pissed bout this were the ones that weren't evne invited, what did they contribute to the camping? They killed Bloodtear? Big deal becusae I can solo it with 1 mage which is what we were doing till he lagged, it was already at 50%. This was no reason not to pay them but that was one of my ideas of being fair when I borrowed the 10k.

[Lunakat]

There is a fair share immature players in this game. guess i should of expected it, ff is a popular name.

Stan, I don't think that you are helping your reputation by these posts, IMO. Im not on your server and also not your level but i have met people with a similar demeanor. I dont care if we're gettin great chains, I will leave the group if someone is overbearing.

On asura, theres a lot of bad talk about --decided not to post his name--. I decided to dismiss the talk and group with him... I dont wanna say anything bad but sometimes if you have a rep, you may have made it.

My advise, go outside, get some sun, find a girl/boy(your preferance), relaxe, take a deep breath and step outside yourself for a second. Come back and play the game, dont be obnoxious, ask first dont take first. Its a game.

[RobotLoveRobot]

"I said that I treat others like they treat me,"

I think you missed the point with that one.

It should be "I treat people as I would like them to treat me."

See the difference? Also, I agree with the posters saying you're not helping your cause. I am not on Siren, but just from reading your posts I already have reservations about you.

[Emerok]

Stan... perhaps there is one thing you are not understanding. You say you have done nothing really that bad, or that its not enough for people to act the way they do to you. Have you forgotten that you are 1 person and MANY people are NOT liking you. YES rumors can make an additional amount of people who don't truly know you make hollow claims about you HOWEVER those who DO know you have come on these very forums to tell you in your face that something is wrong with you. I can only observe from afar yet i see that your own view of yourself can HARDLY matter in the face of such opposition. Have you considered that there are 6 billion people on this planet and you are but an insect amongst them all. When an entire server kinda sorta hates you its time to look in the mirror and CONSIDER IF you are doing something wrong constantly. Attitude matters. Likely it wasn't even the money you stole that mattered that much to them, it was probably the way you acted about it. If you consider stealing trivial then even if you steal 10 gil from another person, they will hate you as if you stole 1 million from them. Consider that...

[Stanislav]

You missed little point... 90% of the people that hate me dont even know me and when they meet me they no longer hate me.

Anyway close this thread...

The point of this thread was at the bottem..
Where I was threatened by someone who plans to ruin my reputation among the japanese community on purpose without any real proof, I am his only competition during NA time and the only way to keep most HNMs to himself is to ruin me.

[lun4tic]

Originally posted by obsidian

Uh ya, you were an asshole. Anyone who trains that many mobs to the zone in the jungle is an idiot. Learn how to pull or die.

Have you been in Yhoator lately? I guess not or you'd know how many people aggro gobs and zone them.

I admit, not knowing that wasps link and pulling a goblin pathfinder with his wasp through a whole pack of wasps was foolish, but it was a learning experience but it wasn't neccessay for him to be such a dick about it.

You seem to be on his same level the way you posted, too quick to judge yet too slow to understand it.

[Basher]

Originally posted by Stanislav
Also I aint 74 lol I am 73 and 10k away from 74 (I havnt been able to play for 2 days or else I would be 74 now)


then why put 74/37 if you are really 73/36 ?

this is one thing that can be reflected upon you when it comes to "trust"

i'm @8k >> 68 and i still have my profile say i'm 67, because that's what i am

[Elsurion]

uh, you will still see at 50 ppls running to the exit to save their butt.

Best example is Crawlers Nest. It's always to zone in and zone out deep red, because some idiot trained a bunch of soldiers and workers next to the exit.

[Stanislav]

Originally posted by Basher


then why put 74/37 if you are really 73/36 ?

this is one thing that can be reflected upon you when it comes to "trust"

i'm @8k >> 68 and i still have my profile say i'm 67, because that's what i am

Maybe becuase all I do is level? I would be 75 at this point of this week but I have to my bullshit in life and I havnt been on for 4 days so far....

Who cares what level you put? If I am 74 or 73 I have almost the same game experience which is what your level mainly show on this forum. If I put I am 75 while I am level 50 that is another story.

Like I said please close this topic...

Basher read what the main point of the topic was... And read the post i made above yours, its not about trust its about scum who try to ruin reputation on purpose without proof inorder to remove the only competition for HNMs during NA online time.

Most americans are like little kids by logic, if you tell a kid under 10 years old that something is true but they say it isnt... And you keep repeating that is true they will eventually think its true. (This theory was given by a person I know who was talking about the Michael Jackson case, he said the kid was conviced to say its true)

Every single person in my party trusted me and first couple times refused to believe what people said but they kept trying to tell them its true till they finally left.

CLOSE THIS TOPIC PLEASE.

[Emerok]

Go to hell Stan. You are a spoiled hypocritical brat. You may say you already admit this, but i say this...you can try to act above everyone all your life and be the way you are and the end result will be you will die with nothing. It seems you are willing to go through life and give everyone enough to get you where you want to go, but when you require them no longer then they are nothing to you but a vague memory. In the end you may have everything you wanted dude, but all the people you stepped on to do it will prevent if from ever mattering.

[Stanislav]

Originally posted by Emerok
Go to hell Stan. You are a spoiled hypocritical brat. You may say you already admit this, but i say this...you can try to act above everyone all your life and be the way you are and the end result will be you will die with nothing. It seems you are willing to go through life and give everyone enough to get you where you want to go, but when you require them no longer then they are nothing to you but a vague memory. In the end you may have everything you wanted dude, but all the people you stepped on to do it will prevent if from ever mattering.

See you judge me by what I said but first you need to know my past...

I played many MMORPG and people on MMORPGs are usualy scum... I used to help and I used to trust but after getting conned and used in over 10 MMORPG I decided that I will not let myself be used by people.

As I said this topic is not about what you are trying to say and please do not tell me to go to hell without knowing me...

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[Mikasa]

just chill guys, its just a game.

go smoke some weed.