I got to watch PvP with some PLD

[Grodo]

I saw about 6 to 8 PLD and most of them had Ninja or Monk as sub so is this better to have for PvP

[Kuai]

i just have to say your avatar looks like a fucking retard i just noticed.




most melee sub nin for utsusemi because utsusemi>2handers. you gonna get raped if you dont have nin sub in ballista

[Negs]

ouch.

[Macht]

Originally posted by Kuai
i just have to say your avatar looks like a fucking retard i just noticed.




most melee sub nin for utsusemi because utsusemi>2handers. you gonna get raped if you dont have nin sub in ballista

This is why I think the next item they are going to fix is Utsusemi and this board will have people whinning and groping about it.

[ZQM]

Originally posted by Macht
This is why I think the next item they are going to fix is Utsusemi.

What is there to fix about Utsusemi? Because it gives players an edge in PvP? Does that mean that they need to fix ranged weapons because it's easier to hit somebody? :rolleyes:

[Quezi]

wow so... 1 on 1 happens frequently in pvp?? if it does now, it wont be once people figure out how to play=p

[Abriael]

That may be true if you plan to just wander around killing people totally at random, but this is not gonna win the game for your nation.

Paladin is a meat shield, and it works best as a meat shield even in Ballista. A paladin's natural role is to escort petra holders to the rook, they're slower, so they're not gonna make it without an escort.
Guess what comes in handy here? Old reliable provoke. Without it enemy players will be able to just ignore you and kill ther petra holders first, and byebye to any hope of scoring.

[Ziguld]

or you can just go PLD/NIN and be the guy holding the petra since you'll be tough as nails and leave it to team BLM to cover your arse...

[Abriael]

With everyone that has a provoke stopping you in your tracks? You're though but not invincible, utsusemi becomes useless when you have more than one person beating you and people will very soon learn to concentrate fire, and with ninja sub once you begin to get hit you go down fast.
Ballista is a team game, remember.

[Mikasa]

i just have to say your avatar looks like a fucking retard i just noticed.

why don't you tell him what you REALLY think? :)

[Zaptruder]

Provoke doesn't do anything; You can still run away; all it does is force your target onto the provoker.

That said; blink is an overrated ability; get hit by a -ga spell and it's wiped off.

Actually an effective sub is blm - which allows you to bind and sleep and at high enough lvls gives you -ga spells to hit ninjas with.

[Abriael]

Actually provokes doesn't force you to "target" the provoker, but to "lock" on him, and this gives the petra holder quite some times to get away unscathed.

[Dark-Cress]

I just got one thing to say:
PLD75/NIN37 with kraken club + sword = pwnage
I was watching one pld tearing up everyone, even took out 2 people at once!

[Ridill]

Kraken Club + Ridill

/drool

Note to self: Must obtain both Kraken Club and Ridill...

[Abriael]

People that simply think about ballista as some simple form of pvp are gonna be useless to their nation's victory.
It's a team game and as any team game it needs it's defenders, if the paladins go around wielding two sticks, spamming utsusemi and just killing random people who is gonna defend? White mages?

[Lan'Urk]

PLD/NIN is useless imho. The main strenght of Paladins is the natural toughness, adding NIN you will just negate your own strenght. DRK/NIN I can understand why... still think its use is very limited, but can come in handy.

Before 74 /NIN is useless, Utsusemi: Ichi is good for nothing as far as battling Players... a BLM can whipe out your shadows in a blink of an eye (Dia, Poison, blind, and away it goes, bind you and Stuns when you try to recast it.). with both utsusemis, is a little bit better on 1on1 battle, but 2on1 already put you to a disadvatage (not even going to mention fighting vs Monks and dual wielders), and adding to the horrible damage output of a PLD, those 5 free hits will amount to nothing. PLD/WHM would be more useful than PLD/NIN. Now a DRK/NIN can work well, since these 3-5 free hits will probably be enough to put a Taru mage to waste.

[Aggememnon]

Blink tanking is overrated in pvp, maybe 1 on 1 but you are fighting players here not NPC's that have IQ's of 10.

On that note...mmm Kraken Club