Targts to Weaponskill on solo?

[evilution]

Any tips? I wanna get retribution :D

[AtraposBLM]

what level are you?

Most likely you should join a skill up party headed to Boyahda if you're close to 200, or a party headed to Kuftal if you're in the 100-125ish range

[Walkir]

Equip the weapon and find some too weak enemies.

Con them, if they have high defense or evasion, you will get skill ups hitting them.

Typically this is what I go by:
<50 anything in the game really. Go for lvl 10-13 monsters.
50-70 Dunes works well here. Crabs may go a little higher.
70-100 Worms in Koro Tunnel/Qufilm etc.
90-120 Eldimer pull a skelle at zone in whack it and zone when needed.
120+ it gets real tough there. Most of the higher stuff in Crawlers is good here.

But why would a blm ever want to mele? You farm better with spells anyways.

[evilution]

But why would a blm ever want to mele? You farm better with spells anyways.

cuz the style looks cool :P

[AtraposBLM]

and yes, our spells work "better" for farming, but:
A) Our farming ability is hindered by the fact that we have to rest to regain MP. It's utterly ineffective, imo, to train a bunch of gil-droppers, -ga them all to death, and then rest for 5-6 minutes to get back all the MP you burned killing them, and
B) When soloing NM's and such, it'd be nice to have some leeway in terms of how much MP you need to use...like it'd be nice if you did more than 0 damage when/if you struck...

[Coinspinner]

Originally posted by Walkir

But why would a blm ever want to mele? You farm better with spells anyways.

Please explain how and where... because I'm dying to know.

[Taga]

lol it's obvious walkir isn't a blm

[Walkir]

Actually I am....why would you think that I am not?

27 blm
56 rdm
25 whm
49 sam
yadda yadda yadda

have never swong my staff or club as a blm

Run around, diaga stuff, get a big train, and waterga them. Can do that 3-6 times before you need to rest.

You still kill 10times the amount of enemies as any other job in the same amount of time.

[AtraposBLM]

First off, yeah, you might kill them faster, but in the time it took you to round all those mobs up, any other job (save whm or brd) would have killed those things 1 at a time. Resting makes you *EVEN SLOWER*.

Lv27 blm. Pfft. How much do you need for your next spell (Aero II at lv30)? 10-20k? That'd be nothing to farm up with a melee. They can sub thf effectively and actually get shit to drop. We can't though. We're stuck using /whm or /rdm if we don't want to die, and we're forced to farm gil droppers...which is utterly ineffective EVEN WITH /thf. Oh, and if you want to farm things that have a particular drop (tigers, cockatrices, ect.), have fun killing one in the time it takes a melee to kill 3-5. Unless of course you want to burn MP on killing it faster, and then sit for 5 minutes recharging 900 mp.

[Deodorant]

I'm currently camped in Kuftal doing solo WS on Robber Crabs (20-25exp), because everyone in my LS is too busy killing each other in Jugner :rolleyes: to be my skillchain slut. I get something like 40 WS per hour; so at my current rate it's gonna take another 5 hours (been at it for 2.5 already) to get rid of my Trial Sapara Latent Effect (for Savage Blade). I imagine it would be close to impossible for a blm to solo his/her Trial weapon's Latent Effect, seeing as mobs you WS on must give you exp for the WS to count towards your 300 'points.'

Best place to skillup 190+ is Light or Dark Elementals in Tu'lia. These are VT to me at 73, not too hard to hit, have gimp spells, and stay alive forever. Also not hard to get a party to skillup there; I did a shout in Jeuno for skillup and within 15 minutes had 10 people on chocobos headed to Ru'Aun Gardens. Took about 4 hours if I remember right to get from 227 skill to 240 skill.

[riceburner4540]

Lv27 blm. Pfft. How much do you need for your next spell (Aero II at lv30)? 10-20k? That'd be nothing to farm up with a melee. They can sub thf effectively and actually get shit to drop. We can't though. We're stuck using /whm or /rdm if we don't want to die, and we're forced to farm gil droppers...which is utterly ineffective EVEN WITH /thf. Oh, and if you want to farm things that have a particular drop (tigers, cockatrices, ect.), have fun killing one in the time it takes a melee to kill 3-5. Unless of course you want to burn MP on killing it faster, and then sit for 5 minutes recharging 900 mp.

mid 30s and mid 40s, i -ga farmed the quadavs in palborough mines for my spells...i also got enough to buy dispel in rabao for a friend. of course, this took forever. a mob would net me 600-1k gil (thf sub). i merely kept myself alive by using drain. not that its not do-able, its just horribly slow compared to melee farming ability. speed up money gain by also bringing a couple stacks of picks and your mining gear ^_^.

as for farming stuff like tigers...it takes forever to melee one of those suckers, and yeah a melee job like drg or drk can kill 3-5 in the time it takes me to kill one...really really sad. however, if nobody is on, i have to resort to killing tigers and average about 10k/hour which isn't too shabby. if the spot in sauromugue isn't camped, i go there instead...i do slightly better and i can use spells and rest for mp while waiting for them to respawn. if you really make cash farming, pair up with a melee and farm in slightly more difficult areas where they can't kill forever and rely on your healing :biggrin: .

edit: totally forgot about the original post...sorry >_<
for skilling up weapons, i solo them up to 120 or so on crawlers and whatever else i can find in crawler's nest...past that, its kinda tough (for me at least) so i join limit quest parties or something that involves lots of killing. bust out my staff (or club), melee away. my club is about 10 points away from cap while my staff is about 30.

[Taga]

Originally posted by Walkir
Actually I am....why would you think that I am not?

27 blm
56 rdm
25 whm
49 sam
yadda yadda yadda

have never swong my staff or club as a blm

Run around, diaga stuff, get a big train, and waterga them. Can do that 3-6 times before you need to rest.

You still kill 10times the amount of enemies as any other job in the same amount of time.

the only way this would possibly be effiecent is if the mobs grouped themselves together... which they don't so... just no...

even with aeroga III farming money droppers with AoE is the most stupid, ineffiecent way to farm gil.........

[AtraposBLM]

Originally posted by riceburner4540


mid 30s and mid 40s, i -ga farmed the quadavs in palborough mines for my spells...i also got enough to buy dispel in rabao for a friend. of course, this took forever. a mob would net me 600-1k gil (thf sub). i merely kept myself alive by using drain. not that its not do-able, its just horribly slow compared to melee farming ability. speed up money gain by also bringing a couple stacks of picks and your mining gear ^_^.

as for farming stuff like tigers...it takes forever to melee one of those suckers, and yeah a melee job like drg or drk can kill 3-5 in the time it takes me to kill one...really really sad. however, if nobody is on, i have to resort to killing tigers and average about 10k/hour which isn't too shabby. if the spot in sauromugue isn't camped, i go there instead...i do slightly better and i can use spells and rest for mp while waiting for them to respawn. if you really make cash farming, pair up with a melee and farm in slightly more difficult areas where they can't kill forever and rely on your healing :biggrin: .

edit: totally forgot about the original post...sorry >_<
for skilling up weapons, i solo them up to 120 or so on crawlers and whatever else i can find in crawler's nest...past that, its kinda tough (for me at least) so i join limit quest parties or something that involves lots of killing. bust out my staff (or club), melee away. my club is about 10 points away from cap while my staff is about 30.

erm...what mob did you kill for 600-1k gil? The most I've ever seen is like a shade under 200 from a Giant in delkfurt...and those you can't really train effectively (take too much damage to be able to drain it back efficiently without /whm).

[evilution]

well there are a few places u can gather up 10 or so crawlers at once at ae em they just need to spawn faster =/

[Dryst]

It may not be as effective but to me -ga farming is some of the most fun i have in the game, sure farming with my drk is more effecient but after 2 hours of farming with him i get so bored i have to take a break, i could aoe farm all day though and not be bored, one of the reasons why i continued on playing blm.

[Ungerpurr]

Think he meant a mob of quadavs. Like 20-30 amethysts, ambers, and youngs.

[riceburner4540]

erm...what mob did you kill for 600-1k gil? The most I've ever seen is like a shade under 200 from a Giant in delkfurt...and those you can't really train effectively (take too much damage to be able to drain it back efficiently without /whm).

yeah i'm sorry, i should've clarified. thats 600-1k gil for a mob of quadavs in palborough mines, anywhere from 15 to 25 of them. or, -ga farming on the 1st floor with the bunch of weak quadavs, that'll net you a tad less gil but you get quadav backplates to sell. of course it isn't the most efficient way but it is pretty fun and decent money when you're lower level. now that everything is so damn expensive, -ga farming is just way too slow.

[AtraposBLM]

see that's the plight:

Lower levels, when the amount of gil you'd get from -ga farming means something, you can't really farm well because you take it in the face.

Upper levels, when you can -ga farm like crazy, the amount of profit you get is basically negligble.


Whoever thinks a blm farms well should be brutally beaten ; ;

or just forced to farm as one >_<

[Dryst]

I dunno maybe it's just me but -ga farming just doesn't seem to be that bad, i -ga farm in highlands atm and i make at least 10-15k a hour, everything there drops good stackables and i get at least a stack of sheep leather a hour which sells for 10k by itself (Minus 2.5k for crystals and ingredients to make) and this is only at 34 with my blm, one of my LSmates is a 58mnk/thf and he usually makes around 10-20k a hour farming (And he farms aloooot, 20atk kotes, brown belt etc, sniper rings etc.) so i don't think we are hindered that much.... and like i said before -ga farming is still much more fun than melee farming ><

[riceburner4540]

including all the drops from -ga farming quadavs, you can make 8k an hour or so, depending on how lucky you are with the drops. this is perfectly acceptable, since you should be able to do this easily as a high 30s blm. or at least i did anyway. if you're a taru though, -ga farming probably won't be your cup of tea.

[AtraposBLM]

8k doesn't cut it if you want good gear even by level 40 (2 morion earrings? Right.)

[riceburner4540]

believe it or not, thats how i made money to get 2 morion earrings, as well as all my other equipment and spells up to about 40 or so...its been a while. it took forever, but getting a few NMs occasionally helped quite a bit. i found 3 bravehearts, selling for 15k each.

got both earrings for about 100k or so when i originally bought it...so thats 200k/8k per hour = 25 hours spent farming palborough mines for those earrings. that sounds a bit longer than i actually spent doing so but it might be close. call me crazy but i like being a cut above the rest. after i hit 51, i sold both earrings to help pay for my dark staff (bcnm40 and lots of farming helped). after that, i farmed (yes, farmed) for my ice staff. then i bought zircon rings and 1 morion earring (60k each and 80k respectively) and camped mysticmaker profblix for moldavite earring.

i have plenty of time to farm, quest, help people do shit, whatever because my static group levels only once per week. thats not much, but i'm satisfied with it since i take the rest of the time to make money to update my equipment. 8k/hour through the 30s to 40s is fine (for me at least). look at the alternatives...farm beehive chips (giddeus...varies greatly, can be decent money), silk farming (west saruta, often heavily farmed, results also varies greatly), misc. junk in tahrongi. since -ga farming the mines generates most of your cash through direct gil drops, its more consistent than all of these other methods. they're all viable, its just personal preference. i'm sure there are plenty of other ways to make money at that level besides farming for it, like fishing or mining. after giving those a try, it just didn't suit me, so i stuck to farming. why don't you offer some suggestions, perhaps how you made your money at that level Atrapos?

[AtraposBLM]

the way I made my money was luck, really. That, and I never bothered to buy morion earrings/zircon rings. +4 int for like 400k never struck me as a smart investment as long as I didn't have any staves.

The way I made money was almost entirely luck. First, I got invited to do some BCNM40s while I was still kinda low (35 or 36). We won all our attempts, and got an erase and a phalanx. Coupled with all the little crap that dropped, that was like 120k. Using that money I basically bought all my spells and crap. Anything I was missing, I farmed up.

Any time I could camp a mob for a piece of equips, I did. Basically, that means my 50k Morion Tathlum actually cost me -120k (3 total drops, plus a few darksteel ores). Also, I used my CP to buy Tactician Magician Espadon/Hooks back when they were worth something (both dropped to about 35% of their previous value because people caught on ; ;).

Since then, the majority of my money comes mostly from BCNM60 (spectacles <3) and doing runs of avatars (with a good group, 50k in 2-2.5 hours isn't bad, and at least you're guarenteed the 50k). Everything else doesn't seem to be as consistent.

I also just recently joined an HNM ls, so here's hoping that helps me with getting gear and crap.

Oh, and the farming methods I've tried:
Spiny spipi/crawler farming (really boring and ineffective, although might be better with /thf. I picked /rgn so I would have widescan).
Palborough mines - I never managed more than 5-6k/hour. Most of the time, my trains got messed up because someone thought I was running away and they killed half my train. Also, in the time that it takes you to gather all them together, you're bound to lose a few. Makes it so that you have to nearly constantly run around gathering them together.
Mining - I mined in ifrit's for a short period (2 adaman ores worth), but it ended up being more expensive than it was worth. Each trip cost me about 20k in sneak/invis pots (I stayed for the whole day when I went), and I got an ore once every other trip. Not bad, but at the time adaman ore prices were dropping like a stone, and had hit 60k. 80k gil for 40k profit wasn't so appealing to me. I might start back up though, seeing as adaman ore is back up to 80k.
-ga farming in Giddeus, Oztroja, Davoi, Beaduex, and a few other places. Ineffective due to the amount of time you have to rest, made more difficult by the fact that you cannot use /thf in the harder areas or you'll get pounded real quick.
Camping various monsters: not reliable. I tried, I didn't make squat. My friend tried, he made 600k. Also intensely boring ; ;


That's about it for me. I'm currently staring at 3 500k+ items I have to buy, and I don't know how I'll get the money. Thank god Black Cloak's price is dropping like a stone (360k and falling, down from 600k (1 million+ a few weeks ago)). Still leaves me with a 450-500k elemental torque, and a 700k dark staff. I'm hesitating though, because they're all dropping like bricks...so I wanna wait until their price stabilizes a bit before I shell out the mad moneys.