Arondight - rare/ex great sword

[l)@RK-l)EVIL]

lv 62 D 79 dealy 480

WAR/PLD/DRK
FIR+7 WTR+7 Add Effect Water Damage

Kuftal Tunnel : Crab NM Cancer


i need info please about this NM :)

1-spawn time every 1 hour? 2 hour?
2-the NM <pos>
3-how many members i need + members lv?
4- i need to kill all crabs around him to let him pop?
5-the drop rate good? bad? or its sure drop?



please i need that info :biggrin:

[fuz]

Hmm, I've seen a lvl 70 PT take 5 or so min killing it. Cancer is located right at the entrace to Kuftal, coming in from Altepa. It's that area where you can see off the cliff edge by all the lizzys. You may have to wipe out all the crabs to get it to spawn, much to the annoyance of anyone leveling nearby. :p

I have no firsthand experience killing it.

[Socrates]

Name Cancer
Place The map containing Cape Teriggan (H-7)
Conditions Trade about Quus to ???.
Drop Item â—?â—?Arondight
Steal
Recommend Lvl.
Notes.



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[Aldo]

quu will either pop a robber crab or cancer, the ??? regens every 15min. droprate is high, but not 100%

[kisada]

Anyone know the info on a rare/ex lvl 62 scythe? From what I know its 91 dmg with +10% extra dmg vs. beastmen. Thanks

[gix]

an easier thing to do is just get zweihander...
The only lv62 rare/ex scythe i know of is called A l'Outrance
here are the stats according to FFXIMT:
DMG:76 DLY:480 JOB:WAR/DRK/BST
Add Effect Vs.Beast : Darkness Damage
Dropped from: Labyrinth of Onzozo : Doomed NM - Hellion

[kisada]

Ahh, thanks. Thought the base damage was higher, but still pretty cool scythe.

[MAK]

i killed it with 5 people all lv60 Nin-Rdm-Thf-Drk-Brd(lv55) i recomend not doing this >_> it hits hard but its slow. all of us but the nin died and he actually tanked it alone for like 10-13mins while we all raised up and foght it again, all we could use is cure 2 since it would aggro to anything above.

[l)@RK-l)EVIL]

thanks all for the info :)

i will get that sword when im lv 62 so i can use it :p
i think lv 60 pt can handle it
i will use that sword from lv 62 to 70 till i get balmung :cool:


peace

[Hisdon]

he's very similar to Aquarise, a lvl 65 pt could take him, maybe 2 lvl 60 pts

[Crowzukin]

Unless you are very lucky, you will get really pissed trying to get the Arondight. The damn NM crab almost never pops when you trade the fish so you gotta wait another 15 minutes, rinse and repeat. Even when it does pop, and you kill it, the drop rate is not very great. I killed it about 2 or 3 times over the course of several hours and nothing. One night I was in there with my LS trying to get it to pop and it didn't even pop once.

[gix]

what is your fascination with this sword? besides the fact that it's free, there's no other reason to use it. zweihander has better dps and is relatively cheap

[Hisdon]

it looks cool, I've seen it in Jeuno

[Donkylips]

Whats does it look like? Is it blue? I hate those blue weapons.. Notice balmungs blade has a purple hue to it?

[Sorath]

Um the dps IS better than zwei

Its DMG79, Delay 480

Zwei is DMG 76 (off the top of my head) and delay 456

I find that 456 delay really irritating, prefer 480 so i can net 12% tp per swing, 11%tp swings are irritating ^^

[l)@RK-l)EVIL]

i hate my drk when my tp is 99% :mad:
i mean weapons that give 11tp every 1 swing

[tomc1988t]

the sword is black in the middle with blue edges :D and it has a gold handel..i was watching a pld in korkola tunnel use it ^_^ it is very nice looking :)

[Mithrael]

Um the dps IS better than zwei
Its DMG79, Delay 480
Zwei is DMG 76 (off the top of my head) and delay 456



Arondight
Delay in seconds: 480/60 = 8
Damage per second: 79/8 = 9.875

Zweihander
Delay in seconds: 456/60 = 7.6
Damage per second: 76/7.6 = 10

Zweihander +1
DMG:77 Delay:443
Delay in seconds: 7.3833333333333333333333333333333
Damage per second: 77/7.383 = 10.428893905191873589164785553047

Zweihander has better Damage per Second.


Note: the /60 is from Apple-Pie. I had always thought, as do most people I talked to, that delay was basically /100. i.e. 480 = 4.8 seconds. If you check it out with a stopwatch though, Apple-Pie is right, it's in frames, and the internal frame clock for FFXI is 60fps.

Either way...
79/4.8=16.458333333333333333333333333333
76/4.56=16.888888888888888888888888888889
77/4.43=17.381489841986455981941309255079

The zweihander still has better DPS than the Arondight. Though the weapon skill damage with the Arondight should be a bit higher (~3.9%).

[Sorath]

Never occured to me I'd need a calculator to play FFXI.

Hmm, oh well, guess I'm just gimped. :(

[fuz]

You are also forgetting that your base attack is funneled though your weapon, so a weapon can limit as well as enhance your damage.

Case in point, with over 200 base attack my damage with chaosbringer does maybe 20-30 dmg. Where did all that attack go? I can't explain it any way except by saying the miserable 3 attack on the sword is limiting my output.

So I'm guessing as you reach higher and higher levels with greater attack and str, Arodight's higher attack will not limit your damage as much, making it better than the zwei--though the zwei+1 would definetly be better than either.

[Mithrael]

Well, you have a Base Damage (Your STR - Mob's VIT), and that base damage can be limited by the power of your weapon.

So your maximum Base Damage is:
A) 24 + 3 x floor([79]/9) = 48
Z) 24 + 3 x floor([76]/9) = 48
Z+1) 24 + 3 x floor([77]/9) = 48

Once you truncate the fractional portion, the maximum base damage for both weapons is identical.

Note: The Base Damage is what is added regardless of your attack or the mob's defense. So if your STR is 50 and the Mob's VIT is 49, your base damage will be 1, if your STR is 70 and the mob's VIT is 10, your base damage will be 48 for either sword. Your Base Damage can also go negative. In that case the base would be subtracted from your 2nd half of the equation.

The second half of the equation is:
Weapon DMG * Rate

And Rate is:
[(Your Attack / Mob's Defense) x Unknown] * random(between -.5 and +.5)

Your rate cannot exceed 2 and cannot be below 0 for normal swings (you cannot have a negative rate). Criticals add 1 to your rate, meaning your maxe rate with a critical is 3.

So your maximum damage would be:
A) 48 + 79 * 3 = 285
Z) 48 + 76 * 3 = 276
Z+1) 48 + 77 * 3 = 279

Assuming you could sustain maximum criticals (which of course you cannot):
A) 285/8 = 35.625
Z) 276/7.6 = 36.315789473684210526315789473684
Z+1) 279/7.383 = 37.787810383747178329571106094808

The zweihander still comes out on top for a higher damage per second... this actually surprises me, I was expecting the opposite once you figured in the multipliers for max damages.

Regardless, the Arondight will have higher single hits and higher weapon skills. Once you add in a consistent 3-4% damage to every weapon skill, it's entirely possible that the Arondight will exceed the Zweihander. Either way, they're so close, I doubt it really matters much at all. .7 damage per second isn't exactly a monumental difference.

I just find this stuff intersting, and I know there are at least a few others out there who wonder about this stuff too. You don't need to know any of this to play the game. Besides, even knowing the info, half of the people will pick style over function :)

[gix]

and style wise zweihander is cooler^^ blue swords? no thanks:spin:

[Crowzukin]

Most people only want to get the Arondight because everyone and their mother has a Zweihander.