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Zaptruder
02-20-2004, 11:37 PM
Playing a paladin... I think the most difficult thing would be casting spells under duress... timing the spells so that they're not constantly interrupted.

It's not amazingly difficult, but at the sametime, this is what goes wrong the most.

Also having the balance MP with HP and others curing me can be a difficult task.

Thark601
02-20-2004, 11:39 PM
As a monk i'd have to say the hardest part of my job is determining when i need to gain aggro and help support the main tank

Xarndelius
02-21-2004, 12:46 AM
Determining the right element to nuke the mob with. When the weather/day changes its not always your strongest nuke that will do the most damage. Also staying low on the hate list BUT doing as much damage as you can.

Black Mage

frogurtx
02-21-2004, 01:45 AM
As a Bard, i would say the hardest thing would be to snipe the paladin with Ballad1 without hitting anyone else. But my song snipe skill is rising by the day. Is especially difficult when there is a steep incline or stairs... affects my distance somehow.

Helps when your group doesnt keep changing their distance between mages and melees.
:thumbsup:

Keeping track of buffs is a bit difficult also, mainly on crabs because they have 2 buffs instead of 1, (and use them very often) and the areas where you fight them are heavily lagged so you sometimes miss battle text. Also that 20+ second dispel cooldown is a problem with those buff spamming crabs. Rather than text, I usually have to turn my speakers up to catch specific sound of the buff going up.

frogurtx
02-21-2004, 01:53 AM
As a Rdm, hardest thing would be to keep the 5-6 enfeebs, and magic users refreshed, as well as myself and some melees hasted. Also throwing in emergency curing, and MB's. Imo, this job is busier and takes more concentration to do than Bard.

Oh, and also mob dispelling is always a must.

Navia
02-21-2004, 02:17 AM
Getting a party.
I could probably be 10 levels higher than I am right now if I didnt spend at least an hour waiting for a party to get formed everynight.
Playing WHM is easy, bordering on boredom.
I put up with it so far because its a means to an end (so I can get my SMN avatars.)

Kagi
02-21-2004, 02:27 AM
As paladin...

- casting spells without getting interruption, more or less gotten it right now but it still requires some concentration
- rationing your job abilities and mp for long chains
- keeping just enough hate for fuidama to work properly (it's easy to go all out and nab all the hate, another story to regulate it)
- juggling a flash, cure, voke, rampart, and weapon skill in the space of 30 seconds
- coping with a lot of death (at lower levels), which is painful but imperative since you're supposed to die first anyhow
- building a good reputation overall, I think pld is a job class that is very quickly judged, i.e. people form opinions about your playing quickly, on whether you are a good or bad player (because it's so easy to spot a good or a bad pld compared to, say, a good or bad drk)

Gryff
02-21-2004, 02:43 AM
As a whm its hard to top up the paladin near the end of a fight then start resting or rest midfight, because past 60 then mobs nearly all use status effects, this isnt too bad.....except then they use multiple status effects.

These tend to be the worst for tanks, like silence and paralyze :(

Taki
02-21-2004, 02:52 AM
Playing a thief isn't difficult in itself. Getting other party members to cooperate with you is the hard part. It's sometimes annoying having to depend on your party members skills so much.

Cali
02-21-2004, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by Taki
Playing a thief isn't difficult in itself. Getting other party members to cooperate with you is the hard part. It's sometimes annoying having to depend on your party members skills so much.

LOL true, I have trouble teachin my PT:

'We have the backup tanker tank 1st, so THF can do TA on main tank, then main tank provoke right after the TA to secure hate'

Half of the time, THF decides to save TA for WS, making the backup tank, tanking for the whole duration, because the SC-partner for THF wasn't ready, but THF still decide to save TA... Or else, it'd be Main tank not provoking at all, thinking just a single TA will gain enough hate, and THF's 2nd TA on the backup tank, made backup tank the main tank....
Thus in the end destroying TA, and a THF w/o a chance to use TA means an useless THF... but half of the party I get in, people don't know how to cope with the new THF-oriented plan...

Back to topic: As a MNK.... hardest is to find PT, we arent looked at as Tanker, we are melee... and when people look for melee, there are so many choices, so MNK has tons of competition compare to PLD....

The Heretic
02-21-2004, 04:49 PM
RDM: Staring at my sword whilst it does 0 Dmg Criticals and screaming "WHY GOD WHY!"

Matsukurago
02-21-2004, 05:10 PM
As a Ranger I wouldn't say the hardest part (I.E. pure difficulty) is earning gil but it is the hardest part to deal with mentaly. I fall behind people in the unspoken leveling war that goes on in all servers. I hunt NM's and if I don't get the drop all my time is thus wasted.

In battle the hardest part of my job is making sure I don't take too much hate. Knowing when to use my Job Abilities and Weaponskills properly can get confusing sometimes also.

Ashlok
02-21-2004, 06:15 PM
Actually, from a Dark's perspective, it is very easy to spot the bad DRKs, but it is very hard to notice the good ones. What makes a bad one? Well, someone who uses up all their attack enhancing skills in one fight (ie. stacking), then get bitch slapped in about 2 hits. Or, someone who will use up all their mana every fight casting the most useless of spells, and then needing to med for mana and lose tp. There's also the other extreme, where they do nothing but auto attack.

knox
02-21-2004, 07:16 PM
well since im intrested in a ranger right now, id say its keeping up with the cost factor. in battle, controling hate.

udontknowme
02-21-2004, 07:19 PM
What's the most difficult thing about your job?

As a server, the most difficult thing about my job, is putting up with assholes who act like they're better then me. I cant do anything about it either, I have to take it and smile which is getting harder and harder btw.

Also tea drinkers are annoying as hell. They have no idea how much EXTRA work is needed to get them that tea. First you get the pot, then you open the tea bag, then you fill the pot with hot water, then you get a little cup with a saucer, then you get them milk because tea drinkers drink tea with milk, not cream....

And finally the absolute worst thing about my job, are people who dont tip at LEAST 15%. Most tip 10% which is not enough. This isnt the early 1900's you know??. Servers in 99% of the restaurants you go to have to tip out. What does this mean? This means if you dont tip your server anything, he/she has to spend his own money to pay for the tipout. Basically he/she lost money for serving your broke/cheap/ungrateful and almost always rude and un-appreciative ass.

For example at my work, the tipout is 3.5percent. If i sell 1000 dollars, i tip out a minimum of 35bucks no matter what. If i only got 20bucks in tips that day, not only i'm i walking home broke, but 15dollars will be coming off my check.

So be kind to your servers, it isnt as easy as most of you think.

As for my job in game... who cares

JXK
02-21-2004, 11:59 PM
udontknowme

That sucks man.
I was once a bus boy so I know how it is. I usually tip way more then 15%. I think on average I tip 20 to 25%. This is based on dinner for 2 under $100.

Anyway...on topic.

As a WAR the hardest part would be keeping 3 weapons leveled up. Its sad when I'm in the dunes running away from rabbits in lvl 30ish armor.

Garrick
02-22-2004, 03:40 AM
Saying "No.". I don't know why, but since i've hit 15 I keep getting invites to Dunes with and without /tells, I know im not the only Paladin on Kujata at 15 lol. I guess Im too nice though, because usually I accept one of em and give it a whirl :sweat: .

vudoodoodoo
02-23-2004, 04:32 AM
Finding good tanks and trick attack buddies! >.<

Daxem
02-23-2004, 05:52 AM
My hardest part o f being a NIN/SAM is people inviting me then asking if i could blink tank for them WTF!!!! are you stupid is my sub not SAM!!!!

caelestis
02-23-2004, 12:41 PM
Hardest part of Dragoon probably (other than the sheer *amount* of DRG out there) is keeping interest. In 61 levels I've grown bored of the same routine with leveling.. and it's become nothing more than a chore for me. Fight starts, engage, Provoke, THF S/Ts onto the PLD, gain TP, Penta, Jump, High Jump, hit again, Penta, hit, hit, hit, Penta etc.

Then comes the whole issue of usefullness of a DRG in PT. Essentially, after a DRK gets Guillotine, DRG aren't considered often for PT, so unless you have a static group, leveling is very boring and long. DRG are rarely asked to BCNM fights, never asked to Summoner Avatar battles, etc etc. After 60 DRG has seemed useless other than the need for a Penta spammer every now and then (but since Samurai are able to use that WS, DRG are still on the backburner).

... oh that, and mob with Evasion boost is a killer for me, even with very high dex/acc for any DRG within my level range. (._.) Die Peryton, die.

Matheon
02-23-2004, 02:38 PM
With the rare exception i have a hard time getting teams to work together on the skillchains well.
as a ranger it is especially difficult for me when they don't announce their TP and they just start the chain without warning when i have just readied a ranged attack and can't weaponskill for at least 5 or 6 more seconds.

and of course they are always like "where was the flaming arrow?!"

and i have to say

"make a TP macro and tell me when you are ready to weaponskill. or at least announce the chain ahead of time"

i guess its hard on everyone when people do this but i find it to be most difficult for rangers cause of our huge delays.

Sabastion
02-23-2004, 04:01 PM
As a warr the hardest thing about my job is finding a pt!

Shiia
02-23-2004, 10:49 PM
Like some one stated, as a RDM its hard to keep everyone refreshed if the PT consists of 3 casters and a paladin. It makes a nightmare if I am the main healer. Refresh all 4, debuff, heal, MB all without dropping any refresh cycle and keeping eye of your debuff + dispell. Oh and make your MP last for at least 10min...

Having blm who doesn't support me in heals in this situation, is one of the most frustrating thing...

Carbon
02-24-2004, 07:50 AM
LFG is by far the hardest.

Been stuck at the same level for 3 weeks now.

The game is amazing fun when I get a PT, but what's the point when I never do?

I would quit in a heartbeat if it weren't for friends who play the game.

Jroggy
02-24-2004, 09:40 AM
you could always make your own group? there are alot of people who sit around for hours looking for a group so it shouldn't be that hard. Hell the other day 6 of us were all LFG in qufim so one of us started up the PT and it was my best PT ever we were making atleast 3000-3500 xp an hour. Everyone in the group got 4 levels. I found it hilarious that no one wanted us in their groups yet we were probably making the most xp in the zone (or one of the top groups anyways).

Carbon
02-24-2004, 10:03 AM
DRG/WAR + DRK/WAR + SAM/WAR + PLD/WAR + THF/NIN + RNG/WAR does not = good group.

People make starting your own group sound so easy. It's not when key jobs are missing.

The moment a WHM logs in, all the 5-man groups sitting in Jeuno race to snatch him/her the fastest. Ditto for RDM. BRD. Even PLDs sometimes.

Although at one point I disagreed, I now notice that at higher levels, having that "perfect" party, or at least as close to perfect as possible (meaning having at least PLD, WHM, and RDM [or BRD]) is much more important than it is at lower levels.

Valerathon
02-24-2004, 10:16 AM
The hardest thing about being a WHM is standing off to the side, and fixing my eyes on 6 little pink bars and spamming Cures. Honestly, ppl in the PT don't have personalities in my mind, they're just pink bars. :sweat: I make a point of throwing in a Banish (II) usually once per fight (my Divine skill is my highest skill, atm, heh heh), just to keep things a bit more interesting. I've been PTing with BRDs alot more recently, though, and they always make things alot more fun. They're my connection to the PT, so I don't feel as left-out. :thumbsup: BRDs are my favorite ppl in the world!

Dark Aphalite
02-24-2004, 01:25 PM
As a Warrior it wasn't too hard.
Maybe the fact that I wanted to deal out damage but had to sacrifice that for Defense as I had to be the tank.
This is why I went straight to DRG so that I can concentrate solely on ATTACK and ACCURACY! :)

As a Dragoon:

- Keeping as little hate as possible while still trying to hit for max damage.
- Wether or not to Provoke. I am still a low level at the moment so I can get away with a bit of Provoking but soon I will have to completely remove it from my macros and teach people that just becuase I have War as a sub I cannot Provoke.
- Trying to keep my Wyvern alive while also trying to build up TP. VERY hard when you have 100% TP but your Wyvern is almost dead. Do you cancel the WS and SC or let your Wyvern die? Hmmm...

hylowa
02-25-2004, 04:26 AM
think my only grip is finding a party... would it be as hard to find a party if i were a plain ol white mage with updated spells? on two occasions i was in a party that needed more fighters... on alot more ocassions i was in a party of 5 warriors... looking for healers on a server with a 4 lvl diffrence for the closest white mage... think id have an easier time going the healer route?
prolly give me a new challange from the constant tanking i do all night...