I just want to take this opportunity to help some of the newer cooks around here. Hope it helps. It may not be the best route to do things, but it worked well for me. I'm doing this entirely from memory, so excuse me if there is a mistake or 2. Feel free to contribute to, correct, and add to the list, especially the cooking after lvl 52.

Unless stated other wise, material are bought from cooking guild in Win Water or AH. Having a mule or 2 in sandoria and bastock will greatly help to reduce the cost, and speed up the lvling process.

Always buy advanced image support. In my experience, it roughly equate to adding 3 lvls of cooking to your skill. And the cost is minimal when compared to how much you can lose in just 1-2 extra failures.

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0-3 Carrot broth. Water Crystal + 4x Sandurian Carrot = 4. Stack of 12 sells in Jeuno for 2000. YMMV.

3.1-6 Orange Juice. Water Crystal + 4x Sautura orange. Oranges are cheapest at vendor near northern exit in Win Water. Money loser. But since the material is cheap, just cope with it.

6.1-11 Sliced Sardine. Wind Crystal + 1x Barstore Sardine = 2. Great chance for lvling your fishing. If you are lvl 30+, harvest wind cluster in Tarhrogni canyon. If you buy your ingredients, you come close to break even. If you harvest/fish, you'll make about 1K per stack of 12.

11-13 Sliced cod. Wind crystal + tiger cod = 6. You can sell to the fishing guild and make a small profit (if I remembered correctly).

13.1-20 Selbina butter. Ice crystal + 1x selbina milk +1x rock salt
=4. Another money maker. You can sell it now or save it for later on. I say sell now, since you can always make more later on. And later with higher lvls, you get more chances to make more of it (HQ = more butter).

20.1-29 Insect Paste. Earth crystal + 1 little worm + 1 millicorn + 1 distilled water = 12. A money maker. Little worm can be bought from the store to the east of the guild, and water from the shop south of the guild. Very high profit margin, so you can start at 20, and just take the high failure rate early on. I annouced that I'm selling these to LS members for
200 per stack. I had 150+ orders from my LS, so I blasted through the levels super fast, and made about 10K in the process.

29.1-31 Sardine Balls. Earth crystal + 1 barstore sardine + horo flour + 1 distilled water = 12. Horo flour can be bought cheaper at the mithra vendor near win water > win port exit, but seems to only be available some of the time (when some region is under windurst control?). Cheap, easy to make, but it doesn't fly like the insect paste. Profitable if you sell them over the AH.

31.1-35 Meat balls. Earth crystal + 1 hare meat + 1 sandurian flour + 1 distilled water = 12. Little more expensive than sardine balls, but not by much. It's profitable again, if you have the patients to sell them over the AH.

35.1-39 Petfood Delta. You can start 33-34 if you are impatient. Earth Crystal + 1 rye flour + 1 landcrab meat +1 distilled water + 1 bird egg =6. One of my favorit as this can be a fairly significant money maker (high fame helps). Shop around different AHs for the best prices on stacks land crab meat and bird eggs. You get 6, and each sells for about 100 gil to NPCs depends on your fame.

P.S Congradulations, you can now reliably make Meat Mithkabobs. Unfortunately, no Cerebrus, it's no longer a major money maker like it use to as the prices has fallen to the point there is little profit to be made. Any way, if you are interested. Meat mithkabob = fire crystal + 1 cockatrice meat + 1 wild onion + 1 mhura garlic + 1 kazham pepper.

39.1- 42 Pie Dough. Water crystal + 1 selbina butter + 1 rocksalt + 1 sandorian flour = 4. A marginal money maker. Make selbina butter yourself helps to make it a little more profitable.

42.1-??? Apple pie. Fire crystal + 1 pie dough + 1 maple sugar + 1 cinnamon stick + 1 lizzard egg + 1 fairy apple. This is where I'm at. So I can't say much more beyond this point.

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Edit: 02/23/04

42.1 - 47: Apple pie, recipe listed above. Break even if you shop for the ingredients over several AH and buy from vendors. (S.Sandorian grocery sell maple surgar for 41 while San is #1, Cinnamon goes for 240 there as well if I remember right). Use lizzard eggs instead of bird eggs for higher success rate. Basically you break even if you are semi-lucky, get only 1-2 failures per 12 syn (adv.image is a must). These sell very fast over AH, or even just have your character sit in lower Jeuno with them in the bazaar.

47.1-52: Crayfish balls. Quite a profitable syn. 1 earth crystal + 3 crayfish + 1 sandorian flour +1 distiled water. Buy crayfishs over AH for 700 per stack (seen 500 per stack). Flour is cheapest if you ship from your mule in sandy (61g). Sells for 500 per stack on Cerebrus. 3K material makes 6K worth of balls. yeah baby! ^^ Might want to try start making them at 45 if you feel lucky.

P.S Congradulations, you have just reached another landmark. Now you can reliably make Fish mithkabobs without image support. 1 stack of 12 Fish mithkabob = 1 fire crystal + 1 barstore sardine + 1 neobomite + 2 shall shells + 1 blue tail. On cerebrus, 42K of material makes 60K worth of Fish Mithkabobs currently. But it doesn't sell as fast as meat mikabob (takes me about 2 days to sell 12 stacks using 3 mules). Might want to hurry, because when the majority of cooks reach lvl 50, the prices of the fish kabob might plunge just like Meat kabobs did. Also keep in mind that there is a baseline failure rate, even when you are over the item's syn cap. At 52, there is still a good chance that you'll fail once every 12 syn. But given the 18K profit margin, failing once means you'll just make 15K instead of 18K. :spin:

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Update: 03/31/04
Correction to pie dough as some have pointed out, it caps at 42, not 43. Thanks for picking that up. ^^

Ok, have been leveling my subs and other things. Also leveling cooking at this point appears to get much more expensive and slow down.

52.1 - 55: Baugreen Sautee = 1 fire crystal + 1 baugreen + 1 selbina butter. This may not be the best way to go, as it does not sell well in the AH. So you are forced to sell back to the Guilde for about 185 gil each (selilng to other NPC yield greater loss). You basically lose about 100 gil per syn due to the cost of fire crystals. I had a bunch of crystal left from leveling my sub, so I just used them.

55.1 - 61: Stone cheese = 1 dark crystal + 1 selbina milk + 1 rock salt = 4x stone cheese. You'll lose a little bit of money on this. They don't sell to guild, and almost nobody ever buys it on the AH. At least it's very cheap to make, and you can sell it back to NPC for about 70 a piece, so provided that you never fail, you only lose about 50 gil per syn. Or you can save it and turn it into the guild for guild points.

I stopped leveling my craft at 60, because I don't see a HUGE profit potential in cooking even at high levels. Cooking even at 60 is really just a something for you to save money with over the long run by making your own food. For big money, I'm leveling another craft to 60+.

Very nice. This should be stickied. :thumbsup:

Very very helpful Xephiod :) .. thank you much

good info xep, need to make my own kabobs ;)

Can you make good money in cooking??I have about 50k I could put into it if I would bring in good money.

Unfortunately, most crafts don't make money, at least not alot of money from what I see.

The problem I see is:

(1) Too much competition. On cerebrus, when I first hit 36 in cooking, meat mithkabobs were selling for 2800-3000 per stack (3500 in jeuno). So for a few days, I was cranking out meath mithkabobs, and along with 2 mules, I was making about 7-9K a day. Then within a week, the price dropped to 2300-2400 a stack. There goes almost all of my profit margin. The only explaination is that all the NA players are hitting the same lvl now.

(2) People aren't willing to pay too high of a premium for a non-durable goods. Food are meant to be eaten. Once you eat, it's gone. People aren't willing to pay a huge amount of money for something that last 30 minutes.

(3) The lvling factor. There are always people who are lvling their craft. Many of them wealthy, so they are willing to do thing at a loss by paying high prices for the ingredients. Most of the tiem, the cooking guild in win water has ingredient prices jacked way up do the all the lvling that are being done. Which cuts into profit margins for establish craftsman.

Unfortunately, I have arrived at the conclusion, with the exception of super high lvl crafters, there is little money to be made from any craft, at least not consistantly. You can probably sell the ingredients for almost as much as you craft your items for.

The only exceptions are when you are super high lvl, and you get high quality items left and right. In that case, yes, you can turn a profit. For example, if you are making meat mithkabobs, you have a chance of making meat chiefkabobs in the process. The greater your lvl exceed what mithkobab takes, higher your chances. But to have a significant chance, you need to be at least 30-40 lvls higher. So that means your cooking needs to be in the 60's before you get any significant quanities for chief kabobs (which sells for about 2-3 times what mithkabos sells). There's the bulk of the profitability in any craft -- HQ items.

The economy has everything to do with balance.

If the price drops very fast cooking-ppl won't synth meat-kabobs because they make to little profit. Then you will see there are only a few meat kabobs on sale.

When there are only a few meat kabobs on ah you will see the price will go up, up up again .

( Many available -> price down
( Few available -> price up

This is just the kind of thing i was looking for.

thanks

great guide, thanks

I don't understand the NPC's in this game.. Here's what has been going on between me and the vendors at the Culinarian guild in Windurst:

Day 1: Bought 2 stacks of San d'Orian Carrots, then NPC was sold out
Day 2: Bought 2 (not stacks) San d'Orian Carrots, then NPC was sold out
Day 3: Bought 2 (not stacks) San d'Orian Carrots, then NPC was sold out

Why does this happen? I was there at 5:00 when it opened on day 2 and day 3.

SE went into detail w/ the amount of items a NPC has in stock... they get new shipments in every day and depending on how well they sell that item may or may not be availble later

NOTE: do not quote me about the daily shipments thing, it was just for the sake of example

Argh, that will surely hinder my progress =(
Was told you could do 1-40 in a day with enough gil, but not when the NPCs are like that :/

Wow! Using this guide, I got up to 16 in a week. Thanks!

Yes, my pace is slow:)

0 -> 40 in 3 days, nice guide :)

>>montgomery burns voice<<

excellent...

unfortunately, culenary guild isn't usually the cheapest place to get your ingredients. But it is the most convient place, with the advanced image support guys just next door. People buy stuff from the guild, but the guild prices is elastic. So once someone buys a certain quantity, the price next to the goods would turn grey, that means it will go up in price the next day (but if nobody buys for a few days, it will go down in prices, until it hits the normal standard price). If someone buys enough of it, the whole item would go grey and be sold out.

That's why a mule or 2 is so useful. I have 2, 1 in Sandoria, and the other I routinely make and delete in bastok or windurst, depend on where my main character is. This way, I got all 3 nations covered, making buying low and selling high a snap. Not to mention, each brings in 50 extra storage space and 7 AH slots.

For Sandurian carrot, where else best to buy but... sanduria. Have your mule buy it from the vendor in S.San, just west of the AH. Same goes for when you want to buy Sandurian Flour. :) Also, the grocery store in S. Sandy is a good source to get cheap rock salt.

Unlike the culenary guild, their prices dont' flucuate (at least not enough people buys from it to cause the prices to fluctuate noticably). But many of the supplys are only available when the nation controls certain area, or is ranked number 1.

Another thing, avoid weekend crafting at the guild. Weekends = mass leveling = guild prices goes through the roof, while the finished product is over supplied = AH prices hits rock bottom. Just my observation.

Have been lvling my character instead of cooking lately. So I'm only up to 48 right now. On cerebrus

43.1-48 Apple pie: 1 fire crystal + 1 fiary apple + 1 pie dough + 1 maple sugure + 1 lizzard egg + 1 cinnamon = 4 Apple pie.

Even money, or a very slight loss if you do a little shopping for your ingredients and sell at the AH in the city that offering the best price. At least they sell really fast. Every mage and their mother seems to be eating these. :D

Apple pie, using bird egg can take you to 50. But I'm having second thoughts at 48. Since apple pie is some what expensive to make, and 1 failure can mean quite a noticable loss.

I'm thinking maybe crayfish balls to hit 52 instead. Very cheap to make.

Crayfish balls: 48 (47) - 52. 1 earth crystal + 3x crayfish + 1x distilled water + 1x sandurian flour = 1 stack of 12.

Earth crystals is basically free. 200-300 per stack. Crayfish sells for about 800-1000 per stack at AH. Distilled water = 11 g at the store south of the guild. Sandurian flour imported from mule in Sandoria = 76 per bag. Total cost of 1 stack = 25 for the crystal, 250 for the 3 crayfish, 11 for the water, and 76 for the flour = 362 per stack. Factor in image support and 10% failure = 440 per stack. In AH, these sells pretty fast for 500 gil per stack. So you should make a little profit, if not break even.

I think I might go make a bunch, and everynight before I go to sleep, I'll just park my naked character, Bazaar loaded with Crayfish balls right at the Fishing Guild in Windurst, and see how well it sells. :)

For hitting 55-56, I'm eyeing Beaugreen Saute. But I heard Yugado Drink is a very popular mage drinks, so I'm looking at that as well.

Nice guide, looking forward to hear about your experiences past Apple Pies. :sweat:

We are on the same server :)

Im raising my cooking skills but im only lvl 10 Im sure this guide will help alot. Thnaks! Gonna continue leveling it when I get money from my plants.

I have some more stuff to add on to you small guide, just some easy ways to make gill after you get the lvl needed. When you can make insect paste 100% of teh time, this strat is very helpful. Go to sandoria, when you ahve a day or 2 to spare (real life) and then go to the Port Sandoria AH. Buy the ingredents (i know, cheaper in Wind, but the paste sells alot faster in Sandy). Synth 12 stacks, put 7 up for auction, get some more ingredents, syth, send to another mule in sandy if you have one, then replenish any that have been already sold, then go fish right in the ports. After using 1-2 stacks of paste, most of your pastes have sold, go back and replenish when needed.

You can make some money really fast this way, also, every now and then you will get a stack of moat carp wich sell for about 4k on my server (Ramuh). This is good to do if you have time, and you will get some money.

Also if you dont want to fish, you can cook other things while you wait for your paste to sell to get your level up. Not as effective money maker but it will get your skill up ^^. Good luck and have fun cooking!

insect balls at lvl 20 was a big waste of money for me.

24 synths > 2 success, rest was failed..not even 0.1 cooking skill up (yes, i did the lvl 20 cap and it wasnt blue).
even asked for that cooking-skill-up.

Originally posted by Leatherface
insect balls at lvl 20 was a big waste of money for me.

24 synths > 2 success, rest was failed..not even 0.1 cooking skill up (yes, i did the lvl 20 cap and it wasnt blue).
even asked for that cooking-skill-up. I did it perfectly fine, with LOADS of profit, with adv image support (the kind you pay the little taru at the guild for, not the free one). Worked and made me lots of money all the way up to 29 =)

ah, tried it with the 90 gil support, worked pretty well, skils are going up but failing a lot =P

http://www.killingifrit.com/page.php?id=69


All thanks goes to those killing ifrit dudes:thumbsup:

Geez, I'm only 4 now, but my orange juices are failing like crazy. Like 90% of the time. Bye bye gil :(

um, quick question, how much do the carrots regularly go for? On my server they are going for 33 a pop. The end broth only sells for 14gil a pop at NPCs so it's loosing me quite a bit (selling in AH is not good, carrot broth is not in high demand).

Buy the carrot from S.Sandoria vendor, it's most likely cheaper than the Guild. Luckly, you aren't required to make many of them. Making 3 stacks of them would raise you to lvl 3 when you can do orange juice or sliced sardine.

So sell it in the AH, it does take time, but you lose less money that way. I sold my 3 stacks over 1 night at Jeuno AH. Yes, it's risky since it cost 500 to put it on there. But since it was the weekend, and mine were the only ones there (I guess everyone thought it wasn't worth selling).... so i risked it and sold it fast at 2000 per stack, and made money in the process. :)

Thanks for the info^^. I was not liking the roast mushrooms at 11 ><.

Thanks for the guide~ I will treasure this lol\

here's some of the ones i used for leveling cooking. Keep in mind my goal was speed over profit and i hunted clusters so my crystal cost was always 0.

15-20 apple juice: 4x faerie apple + water crystal

25-30 pineapple juice: 2x kazham pineaple + water crystal

36-41 tomato juice: 3x mithran tomato + rock salt + water crystal

46-50 grape juice: 4x sand'or grape + dark crystal
50-56 mulsum: grape juice + honey + distlled water + ice crystal
56-61 stone cheese: selbina milk + rock salt + dark crystal
61-66 colorful egg: lizard egg + sand'or carrot + la thein cabbage + distilled water + fire crystal
66-70 sand'or tea: distilled water + maple sugar + selbina milk + sage + windurstian tea leaves + fire crystal

after this it starts geting very expensive

good work xep:biggrin:

Wow i lost 8k just getting to lvl 3 with carrot broth. I used 16 stacks of carrots and 4 water clusters. I had very few failures but skill ups were slow. Also since i was in rabao and hadn't a mule in jeuno i had to sell back to the vendors there for 14gil a piece. I started out with 75k and figured i could get to lvl 40 no problem but now it's not looking so good :( all i want is some pineapple juice! *crys*

Hey Solaran! Good of you to grace my thread. :)

Alura: Sorry to hear that. As the old saying goes, time is money. So patients pays off. Except for few of the syns that are profitable selling to NPCs, most of the product should be sold either over AH or through Bazaar. Trying to rush things tend to be costly.

But hang in there. Do it just couple of lvls a day, and sell the products using your mules. You'll be fine.

Also, I know that some days/moon are better for syn than others. So far I haven't really bothered to look it up. Others can feel free to chime in on this topic. I don't really know enough to comment on that aspect.

xep, what do you think about pebble soup. the materials are much cheaper (if you farm the flints yerself) and you can raise to 5?

I don't really like soup and juices for lvling. So far, they have all been money losers.

they don't stack. And to lvl, you need to making couple of dozen of those to gain a lvl. And they don't worth enough to take up slots in the AH, so you probably will want to sell them back to the NPC. But that's a sure fire money losing deal.

That's why I try to do syns with things that stack. So you more easily sell them in AHs and either making a little profit or at least minimize loss.

Also, peddle soup isn't exactly cheap. I tried it and abandoned it. Yes, the flint stone is cheap, but the fire crystals cost close to 200 a pop. And when you lvl, your chances of failure are significant. And when you fail, you have a CHANCE of losing 1 or more of your ingredients, but you ALWAYS lose the crystal. That's why I try to lvl using recipes that avoid fire crystals, prefer to stick to water and earth crystals as much as possible. :spin:

Is it really not possible to really make a profit and decent steady gil cooking? I hear that pet food delta can be a money maker selling to venders...Is this confirmed?

the main moeny in cooking and all crafts but mainly cooknig is the rare cooks like a chiefkabob.. an example is theres a taru in sandoria sellnig ehrbal broths for 50 gil he had 2 singing herbal broths also for 50 gil i bought em and sold them to the ah for 1k gil each if you can effectivly make chiefkabobs and the strongest broths you can make alot of cash

You can make a bit of gil off Delta biscuits to NPC's they go for 97 a piece. But if you don't flood the market with then you can get 2k a stack at the AH give it at least a day to sell. Land crab meat is soaring close to 4k a stack on Midgard so i've turned to insect balls. Last night during the full moon i couldn't keep them on auction, little suckers were bought so fast. I made 15k in 2 hours selling those on mules in different cities and off bazaar. Prices on mithkabobs aren't great either, i've never even synthed one yet, i might try a few for personal use though.

Great guide, this should be stickied. I made 1-39 in 3 days and I was only level 9 when I started :D

I was a bit worried when I started losing a lot of money with the first two recipes, but the later recipes easily made up for any losses and then some.

Wow, this will come in handy. I should study this and plan an attack on the cooking market.

BTW. You guys might want to make a few lower level items because you might beable to make a profit on them when the PS2 players come on the servers.

Great guide. Got to LV 13 Cooking in 2 days with a small loss of gil. I'm planning on using this guide as far as you make it. ^^

This thread has earned a Sticky:) I made it to Lv34 using it!!

Very, very helpful guide. Newbie cooks definitely want to use this as a start up for getting gains and what to shop for. Good job!

I would like to confirm the pet biscuits phenomena.

Pet Delta Biscuits "make money." I have profitted quite well from these since I started cooking about 2 months ago. I am currently only 44, however, I have spent my time using my gil on other crafts and will be getting back to cooking very soon.

Pet Delta Biscuits sell for 97-98gil a piece at the vendor's in Sandoria. That is my hometown and I have comleted 40+quests there. Considering the amount of time to gather materials and cook, I can average from 10-12k an hour making Biscuits.

The recipe is as follows:
Earth Crystal=>Land Crab Meat + Bird Egg + Distilled Water + Rye Flour = 6 Pet Delta Biscuits.

On Gilgamesh, the average cost of these items is as follows:

Land crab meat averages 3.5k (this fluctuates up and down.. paid as high as 4k before but hate to go past that cuz then you really don't make money IMO).
Bird Eggs, if you are Rank 5, can be purchased at Airship Port Stores for 50gil per Egg or 600/stack. They also sell in stacks on any AH for an average of 1200gil. (Gilgamesh server)
Earth Crystall are ridiculously easy to farm with a level 1 character, or sell for 300gil on average at all AH's.
Distilled Water sells 11gil per item on average or 132/stack.
Rye Flour sells for 36gil per item on average or 432/stack.

3500+600+300+132+432 = 4964*
(*Note: This is for me on my server w/my amount of fame for Sandoria.)

I sell 72 Delta Biscuits back to vendors @98gil each. This totals 7056. I make a profit of 2,092gil. I usually can crank out 5stacks in an hour on average, thus, I make 10,460!

I only come to this total if I have bought the items with gil, which is why I stated I have the ability to make more money if I farmed a few of my items (like the land crab meat for example) I have made a killing and pure profit from simply farming my items. However, this takes a lot of time. (Land Crab Meat is difficult to farm without a Treasure Hunter sub and the eggs and be a nuiscance also. Crystals aren't so bad.)

This method for me has been one of the ways I have funded my white mage's equipment and spells up til now and continue to do so. (However, I am leveling Thief right now and want to use it to farm NM's later xD.)

Only draw back that I have with this method is that I am limited to what the AH sells and they can run out of Land Crab Meat very quickly. So, sometimes I am reduced to farming, but it takes me a real long time right now (even with TH1).

At any rate, hope this helps someone!

awesome info, thanks ('∇')

This guide is truly the most awsome thing to ever be put on this forum.:) :) :) :handsdown :handsdown :handsdown I want to start cooking right here and now but sadly i can only play on weekends and its ONLY MONDAY!! oh well thanks for the guide:thumbsup:

Does anyone know if there is a Bastokan NPC for the Aragoneu region that has the Horo Flour for the sardine balls? Windurst just lost the region and the NPC closed shop on me ><. Or does anything drop the flour there?

Oggodett
Bastok Markets (I - 9)

Sells:
Horo Flour
Millioncorn
Roasted Corn
Yagudo Feather
Sunflower Seeds


http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/bestiary.html?fmob=1349#

thank you for this great guide...

i would like to contribute something for this topic...

im at lvl 21 right now and i wanted to make the insect balls but i couldnt...too much failures and id make 3 out of 12 trys...

so i would say from 20-21 or 22 if it works...make this one its really much cheaper and u can synth it ur self...

fire + selbina butter *u can make this by now i assume* + pototo = baked pototo

raises up ur skill like hell..

im thinking about hitting at least 35 this week..the best thing i got my friend a full fishing gear so he fish all the time and i cook all the time.. he gets to fish and pass the moat carps to me..i get to grill the fish and cook him the bait...

works :spin:

***Clincher***

Ok, so I finally managed to save some gil (about40k) and decided to work my cooking skill up again from 44.

Spent about 2 nights roughtly (only played maybe 6 hours each night) and got my skill up to 52 from 44.

I started out with 12 stacks of fire crystals and had 3 stacks left over when I finally hit 50. Apple pies took me all the way to 50 too, hehe. I crafted on Light Day, Fire Day, and Water Day and the moon was at 18%. I was able to get my skill from 44 to 48 within those few days, starting out. I went to Windurst and got Cooking Imagery and worked apple pies to 48 using Lizard Eggs. Gains were solid and steady, I was very satisfied. 0.2 gains were not too hard to come by either.

The next night, I worked the same three days again: Light, Fire, and Water. (Fire for no particular reason except that I wanted to work on it. It didn't really help or hurt my gains that I could notice.) I worked Apple Pie using Bird Eggs (which by the way, you can buy bird eggs at the AirShip stores in each of the three major cities for about 50gil/egg.) My gains again were good, but slightly a little slower than the night previously. I used cooking imagery all the way.

It wasn't hard at all, nor was it much of any headache. I enjoyed it.

After I was done, I decided that I wanted to work cooking to 52, so I took my remaining fire crystals and bought batagreens from the cooking guild in Windurst to make Batagreen Sautee. (I could not find another place that sold batagreens, not even the AH x_X.) I worked them on Lightning and Light day. The gains were pretty slow at first, I was only able to get from 50 to 50.8 with three stacks of crystals. I also lost money since I had to resell the batagreen sautee to the vendors. I didn't think it would sell quickly on the AH at all. I lost roughly about 2k per stack, so 6k.

I proceeded to not stop there and just use some of my remaining money to work cooking to 52. So I bought 5 more stacks of fire crystals and used them all up til about 3 crystals left and got cooking to 52. The gains seemed to be slow, much slower than making apple pies. But I didn't mind. I was just glad I got cooking to 52. I still lost money however, again 2k per stack. My days working may have had something to do with the skill increases. I do know that the moon was at 32% ish when I was working at the time.

At any rate, I did some reading up on the foods you can make after 52, and I'm not hopefull about the future of crafting beyond this point. Everything basically takes fire crystals and looks expensive to make and work. It looks to me like the rate will go slower and depend more heavily on how much gil I have on hand. I'm going to continue to read around for tips on working cooking past 52, but for the moment, it looks pretty grim. X_X

Originally posted by SonikU4ia
***Clincher***

Ok, so I finally managed to save some gil (about40k) and decided to work my cooking skill up again from 44.

Spent about 2 nights roughtly (only played maybe 6 hours each night) and got my skill up to 52 from 44.

I started out with 12 stacks of fire crystals and had 3 stacks left over when I finally hit 50. Apple pies took me all the way to 50 too, hehe. I crafted on Light Day, Fire Day, and Water Day and the moon was at 18%. I was able to get my skill from 44 to 48 within those few days, starting out. I went to Windurst and got Cooking Imagery and worked apple pies to 48 using Lizard Eggs. Gains were solid and steady, I was very satisfied. 0.2 gains were not too hard to come by either.

The next night, I worked the same three days again: Light, Fire, and Water. (Fire for no particular reason except that I wanted to work on it. It didn't really help or hurt my gains that I could notice.) I worked Apple Pie using Bird Eggs (which by the way, you can buy bird eggs at the AirShip stores in each of the three major cities for about 50gil/egg.) My gains again were good, but slightly a little slower than the night previously. I used cooking imagery all the way.

It wasn't hard at all, nor was it much of any headache. I enjoyed it.

After I was done, I decided that I wanted to work cooking to 52, so I took my remaining fire crystals and bought batagreens from the cooking guild in Windurst to make Batagreen Sautee. (I could not find another place that sold batagreens, not even the AH x_X.) I worked them on Lightning and Light day. The gains were pretty slow at first, I was only able to get from 50 to 50.8 with three stacks of crystals. I also lost money since I had to resell the batagreen sautee to the vendors. I didn't think it would sell quickly on the AH at all. I lost roughly about 2k per stack, so 6k.

I proceeded to not stop there and just use some of my remaining money to work cooking to 52. So I bought 5 more stacks of fire crystals and used them all up til about 3 crystals left and got cooking to 52. The gains seemed to be slow, much slower than making apple pies. But I didn't mind. I was just glad I got cooking to 52. I still lost money however, again 2k per stack. My days working may have had something to do with the skill increases. I do know that the moon was at 32% ish when I was working at the time.

At any rate, I did some reading up on the foods you can make after 52, and I'm not hopefull about the future of crafting beyond this point. Everything basically takes fire crystals and looks expensive to make and work. It looks to me like the rate will go slower and depend more heavily on how much gil I have on hand. I'm going to continue to read around for tips on working cooking past 52, but for the moment, it looks pretty grim. X_X

Yeah, I haven't leveled my cooking past 52, partly because I'm leveling my subs, partly because the skill gain like you mentioned really really slowed down. Use to gain a level for every 1-2 stacks of crystals (12-24 syn), now it's more like 3-4 stacks for a level. And the cost of syn is going up, no more easy cheap earth crystal syns that can level you.

I have given some thought to what to cook at 52. At that level, everything up to 59 should be doable with image support. But most of the things doesn't seem to sell well or at least not desirable or cost effective. One thing possible is yagudo drinks. This does sell fast. Unfortunatly, I did a little calculation, it's not a money maker. On cerebrus, you break even if you succeed 100%, which probably won't happen when you are skilling up. But at least it's not a big money loser. Also, it doesn't stack... so you can't make 100 at a time and put them all up in the AH. You got to be patient and make a dozen at a time, and sell it off before making more. It caps at 56.

At 56, the thing that strikes me is melon pie. Haven't looked too much into it, but if it's anything like apple pie (melon pie is just an higher up version of teh apple pie), then mages should buy them a lot. So it looks promising. And that caps at 61.

Anothing thing you might want to consider at 56 is stone cheese. It looks like it's extremely cheap to make. But not sure if it's gonna be able to break even or not. Hell, I might even just give it shot from Lv 52 since all it takes is Dark crystal + 1 selbina milk + 1 rock salt = 4 cheese. It's a long shot, but it might actually more than break even.... who knows.

Great thread! I've worked through this guide to lvl 50 in about 2 weeks of off and on playing. Thanks alot.

I do have one correction though: Pie Dough caps at 42 not 43, so I started Apple Pie at 42.1. I had quite a high failure rate in level 42, but also had a high skill up rate, so I didn't mind.

Thanks again. If I can find an easy path past 52 I'll post it here.

I can second that Pie Dough caps at 42 and not 43 as you have in the guide.

To clarify, Yagudo Drink caps at 60, and Lizard Egg Melon Pies cap at 62, while the Bird Egg versions cap at 64.

edited for correction and update. :)

this guide is indeed very good. i have a minor thing you might consider adding, because it is driving me nuts trying to find it!

does anyone know where i can get my hands on a list of what is required for each exam? i seem to have gotten the exam for level 48 and not paid attention. doh! now i cant get skillups, and i dont know what item he wants.

can anyone help? what should i give him at level 48?

thanks so much :)

not 100% positive, but pretty sure that Lv 50 test was apple pie.

50 was the apple pie for me.

next time you forget, you can also talk to the guild master npc again.

and, thanks for the guide. =3

--Jinni, cooking 54.9

I broke even making stone cheese from lvl57-60 selling it back to npcs

Ok I'm at cooking level 14. I started making Selbina Butter from 12-14.

Now it's slowing down a bit. Should I keep making these at 20 or is there another recipe to get to 20?

Sorry Double Post.

Butter is super easy and cheap. Stick with it ;). Not using the image support should speed you up a tad if you are currently using it. You can make money on it, and up on into insect balls at 20.

on 42 i was making top notch apple pies without one failure *knocks on wood*

the problem is when u synth it only gives out 4 ...if it gave out 12 like meat mithkabob that's another story...

maybe it will be the greatest money maker over all

17.1-20 Baked Popotoes (butter, popoto, fire crystal)

48.1-50 - Bird egg apple pies. The bird eggs are much cheaper than lizard eggs.

For making money I do gamma biscuits. Uses Dhalmel meat (800D) and Horo flour (which you buy in Lower Jueno). So if you have mules to buy cheap ingredients else where, you can just sit in Jeuno making these things while you wait for a pt.

Being a lower synth I get more HQ combines. Although you get back half as much money to PCs as delta biscuits (57), the cost of the ingredients makes the profit about as good.

Oh and for making money with Mithkabobs: grow your ingredients:

Herb Seed + Fire Crystal = 17-22 Kazham Peppers
Veggy Seed + Lightning Crystal = 3-5 Wild Onions
Herb Seed + Lightning Crystal = 7-9 Mhaura Garlic.
Veggy Seed + Water Crystal (give on Water day) = Fire Crystals. This hasn't worked as well as I'd like.

The savings isn't huge, but its significant enough for a profit. My first batch of 10 Herb seeds yielded About 10 stacks of peppers, and 10 ice crystals. Cost me about 5800 for the crop worth about 7.2k

thx mate i will try to lvl cooking now :)

i can't sell carrot broth ANYWHERE, and in jueno they charge 500 gil to sell a stack of stuff so i lost 1500 there trying to sell 3 stacks which still haven't sold, so i bazaared and nothing there either, can't even sell it back to the guild :( what do i do with them :mad:

same thing happened to me but luckly i realized that with advanced imagery i could make orange juice with an average success rate and you lvl fairly fast, sure you will loose money but its better to lvl up faster and loose a little money than to waste 1k in a stack of carrots and loose 800 gil (in midgard stack of carrot broth = 200 T_T)

i use advanced imagery and make sliced sardines, i lose like 55% wind crystals, but hardly any bastore sardine, and i do have like a 20% sucess rate, and i lvl up like 80% of the tries .2 at a shot ^_^

finaly someone bought my carrot broth in jueno :)

Originally posted by tfung
I broke even making stone cheese from lvl57-60 selling it back to npcs

omg how!? who did you sell to? I can break even on the materials but the cost of the Dark Crystals is killing me.

Edit:

I found my problem. I shipped all my stone cheese back to Bastok where my fame was mucho higher and i was able to break even as well. Glad i saw your post or i would have taken a sizable loss. ^^

I didn't think fame made that big a difference.

I found a good alternate to apple pies in the level 42-46 range. If you are a fisher and have a bunch of nosteau herring saved up make Pickled Herring. The recipe is ice crystal, nosteau herring, dried marjoram, and rock salt. This makes 4 pickled herring per attempt and you can sell them back to the cooking guild for 135 apiece. So, a stack of items will make 48 pickled herring, barring any failures, for a gross revenue of 6480. If you were able to farm/fish/garden all the ingredients, you made a pretty penny from 1 stack of items. And this is a much better way to instantly get rid of your nosteau herring than the AH (which sells for about 3k, and pretty much only in Windurst due to this recipe).

I have worked Cooking up to 60, can anyone suggest a good recipe for skilling up further?

To comment on 50>60:
Beaugreen Sautee took a money loss, but the skillups were just as fast as anything pre-50. I was shocked to see it didn't slow down nearly as I would imagine.
I broke even making Stone Chees from 55.0-60.0, even with high failures at first. Once I hit 57, I was successful nearly every time.
I made Selbina butter myself, this helped a lot to break even. Got a lot of extra butter from HQing it, very nice.

God bless you Xephoid :handsdown

Best post i've ever seen for crafting. You've inspired me to start Cooking, which i had heard was a waste of time and money when i started playing but had been a dream of mine when i first read up on FFXI :spin:

Oh but i have one question. Do you know any fast ways of saving money for those that dont have mules? I dont really feel like paying extra at this point just for Cooking ingredients, but i'm very poor and need to save money if i'm to continue cooking.

Again, Thank You :handsdown

Edit---

Oh, another question. How many Apple pies do you make for the ingredients you listed? I would assume 1 since it coincides with how you've done the rest, but I thought that that might be a little expensive per Apple pie :sweat:

it makes 4 apple pies...

what do i do with the stone cheese?? sell back to NPC? or AH?

Originally posted by Tetsura
God bless you Xephoid :handsdown

Best post i've ever seen for crafting. You've inspired me to start Cooking, which i had heard was a waste of time and money when i started playing but had been a dream of mine when i first read up on FFXI :spin:

Oh but i have one question. Do you know any fast ways of saving money for those that dont have mules? I dont really feel like paying extra at this point just for Cooking ingredients, but i'm very poor and need to save money if i'm to continue cooking.

Again, Thank You :handsdown

Edit---

Oh, another question. How many Apple pies do you make for the ingredients you listed? I would assume 1 since it coincides with how you've done the rest, but I thought that that might be a little expensive per Apple pie :sweat:

If you don't have a mule, then your leveling would be slower, or more expensive. As now you can't sell nearly as much of the stuff in the AH at the same time, and you can't price shop on the ingredients from different cities.

You can (a) buy from the guild. Best time is during week day, around 5-6 eastern. Most JPs are asleep, and most NA haven't got on yet. So the guild prices tend to be at it's lowest. You can buy it then, all at once (if you buy a bunch one day, then another bunch the next, the price will go up on the 2nd day.

or (b) travel to the vendors that sells the ingredients. That means airship travel most likely. Look up which vendors sells what and under what condition on website such as allakazham, and buy it from them. But that usually means more work for you.

When comes to selling stuff. You can go AH to maximize your profit most of the time, but beware of jeuno's high AH fees, you might be better off doing a bazaar, and leave your character on while you go to work/school/sleep. Either that or travel to one of the other cities to sell it there.

As for apple pies, you make 4 at a time. And they sell very very fast.

Alright thank you for answering my questions :)

Seems like I'm going to have to get a mule eventually anyway, but i think I'll have to put off serious cooking untill that time. Thanks again, and keep up the good work helping all of us craft noobs :sweat:

This is in response to a question about chiefkabobs and boiled crab in the DRK forums:

I haven't tried boiled crab yet. My cooking level is only 69 actually, but on fireday with support i usually get 2 chiefkabob synths out of 12 synths.

1 synth of chiefkabobs only yeilds 6 chiefkabobs, so it takes 2 synths for a full stack.

comparison by synth(assuming you are selling on jeuno AH):

2 synths of mithkabobs(2 stacks) go for 6k-1k(AH tax) for 5k.
2 synths of chiefkabobs(1 stack) go for 8k-.5k(AH tax) for 7.5k.

added bonus of chiefkabobs is you can sell in higher volume(14 synths on AH per character against only 7 synths of mithkabobs)

It would be nice profit if I could synth nothing but chiefkabobs AND they sold quickly. There are always 20-30 stacks of chiefkabobs for sale when i put mine up, and it usually takes few days to sell.

Not the great money maker i was hoping for. It probably helps if you grow your own peppers, gharlic, and onions, i haven't tried that yet.

As for getting my skill to 69, from 55 i went

stone cheese to 61
colored egg to 66
sand'oria tea to 69 where i am at right now.

If you have high fame you can break even on stone cheese selling back to npcs, but you will lose money on the eggs and SanD tea if you just buy the ingredients.

The expensive ingredient for colored eggs is Lizard eggs. I should have tried Bird eggs instead. They are cheaper and from the mystery tour recipe list they still work. If they do work you will be close to breaking even on colored eggs as well.

Selling to npcs, I think you can break even on SanD tea if you grow your own sage which is the pricy ingredient. You can do it with herb seeds and wind crystals in either a ceramic or earthen pot(I used earthen). But you need at least 2 successful yields to get 1 stack of sage. So from 10 pots you are looking at 3 maybe 4 stacks if you are lucky, and at this point 4 stacks of synths will net you about 1 skill point. Thats alot of effort, and to me it isn't worth disrupting my already set gardening system.

Post 70 doesn't look very promising. All fire crystal synths, 6 or more ingredients for each recipe, and almost no player demand for any of it, with a few exceptions like rolanberry pies and the SAM specific rice balls which aren't till Veteran.

After finals i am going to go through each item on mystery tour and compare cost of synth to npc price to try and find the cheapest route. Anyway this is probably more info than you were looking for but you put alot of effort into that great guide so i figured i'd share my experience.

Hope at least some of this info helps. Good luck ^^

Awesome info! I started making stone cheese today but I can't find a decent NPC that will buy my stuff to break even. Most NPCs are willing to buy it for 68-69gil each (it costs me about 300gil each to make). Anyone know any NPCs I can unload my cheese to without sustaining major financial loss?

Originally posted by Bubba
Awesome info! I started making stone cheese today but I can't find a decent NPC that will buy my stuff to break even. Most NPCs are willing to buy it for 68-69gil each (it costs me about 300gil each to make). Anyone know any NPCs I can unload my cheese to without sustaining major financial loss?

I made the same mistake lol. Here is what you are overlooking:

1 synth = 300gil

1 synth = 4 stone cheeses

1 stone cheese = 69 gil

4 * 69 = 276 gil

losing 24 gil a synth isn't that bad.

ACK!!! LOL!!! You are absolutely right!!! :)
Thank you for pointing out that out! Now I can get rid of my cheese with relief! :handsdown :handsdown :handsdown

Zafron, did you sell the colored eggs to npc's? I'm gonna make some tomorrow, just need to know where to get rid of them :).

Originally posted by AzzHauler
Zafron, did you sell the colored eggs to npc's? I'm gonna make some tomorrow, just need to know where to get rid of them :).

I sold mine at the restaurant down the street from the cooking guild for 185gil each, if i remember correctly(thats with no windhurst fame).

Sadly since Lizzard eggs are 200 each you are taking about a 200gil loss every synth.

You might try bird eggs instead of lizzard eggs. They're cheaper, but it raises the synth from lv66 to lv68 so you will have more failures.

Anyway i hope this helps. Good luck. ^^

i can't lvl anymore from 50~

cray fish sells for way too expensive on bahamut..and they barley sell it on the auction..

would i be able to do another item or fish those at lvl 1 lol...

pweeeeeeeez help

On the colored eggs, big loss on Cerberus ><. Selling to npc in san(fame 6 or 7) returned only 106 gil per egg, after a cost of like 250. So that was a nice 150/egg out the window. Made a ton of them too ; ;. Anywho...at 68 now. I haven't been able to check prices/sales on anything yet except the new au Lait drinks. MysteryTour says 72 I think for the pear au lait. Looks like it's about 900/drink in the ah, and I want to say it stacks but that doesn't seem right. >.>

Royze, did you check other cities? Granted, the crayfish doesn't sell as fast as insect paste, but it still sells pretty darn well on Cerberus. And for 500 vs. 300 on insect balls.

well i passed on the cray fish...its too much for me... a stack sells for 1000 and its worthless to make...

i switched on beagreens sautee...

i worked on that from 50~54....raise is a beauty...u should try it if goin through same problem...

anyways i think its cheaper...

i cant wait to get my cooking hat :biggrin:

sorry to hear about your crayfish troubles Royze, its pretty easy to make a good profit selling them on Fairy.

Anywho...at 68 now. I haven't been able to check prices/sales on anything yet except the new au Lait drinks. MysteryTour says 72 I think for the pear au lait. Looks like it's about 900/drink in the ah, and I want to say it stacks but that doesn't seem right. >.>

You read my mind purrrfect. Buying the pears from Pourette for 145 each, the synth costs me just under 500gil, and the juice is selling pretty well on Fairy for 700-900gil each.

Sadly, they do not stack. T.T

But it was nice getting to 72 without taking a huge loss.

I'm looking at Blackened Newt next. At 76 or 77, i'm switching to Pamama au lait. I have a really good feeling about Pamama au lait. There is little supply on the AH right now and they are selling for 1k each, but the synth is super cheap(only 200 i think).

Any updates Zaf? I ran out of time at ~71.2 >< damn static pt's :biggrin: . Got any plans for post-pamama?

stone cheese got me to 58 so far...im aiming for level 98 or 100

one of the reasons i started cooking was once i get to a high level i will start making the tonsoma rice balls for my friend even though they that profitalbe but still...

once my other friend start fishing out empror roe or whatever they call it...ill start making money out of it ^^

this is getting more intresting,

say whos working to get the guild hat + apron ?

Originally posted by AzzHauler
Any updates Zaf? I ran out of time at ~71.2 >< damn static pt's :biggrin: . Got any plans for post-pamama?

I'm still at 72, I haven't been able to play for the last week and a half(damn final exams). But you can bet as soon as I get there i'll be posting it.

I made 72 the other day, and looked at some recipes. Unfortunately, I couldn't find sales in jeuno AH on almost anything ><. So I looked at ingredients, and chocomilk looked fairly cheap to make, but a fairly long skill reach. So I waitied for lightday, got my image support, and started. I made ~16 synths and only had 2 failures, got 0.2 skill from it. And of course I haven't been able to sell anything yet. I didn't check to see npc sale price, but you know it's gonna be low :mad:. So I guess it could work if you go slow about it, because it eats up inventory space, at least ntil you can start pamama au lait. And on the pamama, mysterytour and allakazham don't agree on recipe, as one says honey and the other doesn't. I'm betting it does take honey, because all the other au laits seem to.

im at 60 at the time being...a jp friend told me that cooking beyond 60 is a waste of money...but im really lvling for better HQ items...

i think all the au laits use honey...thats whats the drink is based on anyway...........

way to go guys wait for me to catch up to u lol

nice royze, but what does it mean in youre sig

you have 7100 guild points?

Originally posted by Vairu
nice royze, but what does it mean in youre sig

you have 7100 guild points?

you collect guild points by turning stuff to the guild and when u reach a point such as 70,000 ull get the +1 cooking hat...

read more about it i gotta go

i never was aware of that. Is it only for cooking guild? How do you check your amount of guild points?

/offtopic
every guild has its own...

the NPC should be close to the guild and wearing some of the stuff that they give out...
/offtopic

I really need to look into getting those guild items.

If cooking is your only craft I don't think taking it past 60 is a waste at all. In my chiefkabob post i left out an important piece of info.

Every chiefmithkabob synth i have ever gotten has given me 6 chiefkabobs, but recently I walked into the guild and saw a Rank10 NIN so I shut off my synth filter to see what he was cooking.

It was Fireday and full moon and he was making chiefkabobs so i recorded his synths:

2 synths: 12 mithkabobs
1 synth: 6 chiefkabobs
1 synth: 9 chiefkabobs

sadly i only was there for the 4 synths so this isn't a good representation of his success rate, but it does tell us that above and beyond the standard 6 chiefkabob synth there is a 9 chiefkabob synth. You can see from the math of my previous post that this would be a nice moneymaker.

So here is to taking cooking all the way.

I must have missed that before, I have had 1 or 2 9-chiefkabob synths, but no 12's yet. I have been kind of slack on cooking for money recently and haven't made kabobs in like 3 weeks. Today I was greeted with the news that the meat has gone from ~13k to ~19k on cerberus ><.

On a HQ note, I thought that the day before the day of the crystal was the best for HQ, but I have not had good HQ luck on that day in a long time. Is the day of the crystal better?

And what about furniture? Anyone use that? I have a Cupboard I got for a san quest, and it helps reduce the chance of material loss in a failed fire recipe.

which quest is that if you don't mind :spin:

im still at lvl 60 -_-; yeah i know i slacked too...no money ww

iv been getting HQ2 ...it was waxxing moon 83% i think ...on wind's day...so i wouldnt really know..maybe its just a lucky time for me....i got 2 stacks of cheif that day...

azzhauler..

the meat rose from 14K in bahamut to 20K ...they trying to kill us lol...but on the other hand people are selling kabob at 3,200~3,400 so its almost the same...

at those times i go and hunt for my meat..it takes time but thanks to my theif 64 friend :sweat:

For the quest, you go to the furniture shop in north san, just before the inn. Buy a cupboard there and put it in your mh. After a while your mog will tell you he found a teacup in the cupboard. Go talk to the furnite shop people again, one tells you to go to the cathedral and talk to some one, I think it starts with a C. That person gives you some money, and you keep the cupboard (rare/ex).

how much fame do u need to get that quest ? i got 0 fame in sanddy but im thinkin about making the selbina quests thing..

*ooo i got to 66 cooking in 1 day :D*

much props on such a useful post...i wouldnt get to this lvl if it wasnt for u xepoid

:angel:

mucho mucho gracias :D

how did you get that in 1 day? It took me like 2.5 hours to get from 9-14 doing sliced sardine/sliced cod/selbina butter ?!?!

how do you get cooking guild points? sell your stuff to the cooking guild?

no i meant i got it from 60 to 66...now im 67 lol..almost 68

it wouldnt take u long to get to the 30's then ull make money so hold on lol

ohh ok :)

i'm not worried about the money i got 90k and the best equipment i can have atm :), my main profession is fishing which makes a ton of money. i gotta see about getting those cookin clothes :)

Originally posted by Haruko the Alie
61-66 colorful egg: lizard egg + sand'or carrot + la thein cabbage + distilled water + fire crystal
66-70 sand'or tea: distilled water + maple sugar + selbina milk + sage + windurstian tea leaves + fire crystal

after this it starts geting very expensive

i would like to add up, the colorful eggs can be made with bird eggs ..if that will be useful..im at 67 right now and im getting pretty good raise without break..

gannbare

Alot of recipies can substitue bird eggs in place of lizard eggs, however it raises the synth cap by 2 levels.

I dunno how well sandorian tea sells, but pear au lait is much cheaper to make in materials. Caps at 73.

Originally posted by AzzHauler
Alot of recipies can substitue bird eggs in place of lizard eggs, however it raises the synth cap by 2 levels.

I dunno how well sandorian tea sells, but pear au lait is much cheaper to make in materials. Caps at 73.

so do u think i'll be able to make those at my lvl right now ?

or should i hit 69 first ?

Pear au lait might be a bit of a stretch at 67. It would be good imo if windurst has derfland on your server, so you can get pears in win cheap and get adv support. You can pick up the milk in the country that has zulkhiem, and honey in ah or farm giddeus. And it caps at 72 not 73 sorry ><.

As to post 72, I tried chocomilk, and it sells slower than a snowblower in southern Texas on a July afternoon....that's slow ;). Anywho, did some checking and Navarin's seem to sell well in jeuno, however it's a soup, so like the pear au lait it doesn't stack. It also has 8 ingredients ><, most are cheap through npc's though. Looks like it might break even, but you'll lose on failures. Caps at 77. I'm gonna make abatch now and see where it goes....

i was at 67 and i got it to 68 with 2 breaks*i think* out of 2 stacks of pears..*too lazy to do math*

yes...windurst controls derfland..very pleasing im trying to get to 75 as soon as possible

:(

I just recently attained lvl 47 cooking and ive tried about 3 stack of items to try and make my very own steamed crab and not one has come out hq.....

Can anyone tell me about how many levels about the cap would you see significant HQ synths? and are there any other things i can do to improve the % of this happening?

Thanks :p

Wow, thanks to this guide I can stop worrying about making it to 39 before i can start making Mith Kabobs. Well just curious, where do you guys farm your cocktrice meats?? I'm hearing that most Cocktrices are under-checked for their levels since they can Petrify and do some nasty ass damage. I also heard that you can steal off the Sauro Tigers for the meats, I was told this by my JPN friend and also checked mystery tour for it, and from their mob list, it states that you can steal Cocktrice meats off of the Sauro tigers. With that in mind do you guys know where a lot of them spawns?? And is it safe for a 37PLD/18War and a 37Mnk/18THF to camp these tigers??? Sorry for a lot of questions, I'm just curious since everyone has been so helpful with me in these boards that I'm glad I went here :biggrin: .

Ikari

P.S. Hey Cliff, for some reason I got lucky off a HQ Crab meats during Firesday, I'm also hearing all synths have a chance of scoring HQ's on Lightsday as well. I think a few posts back, someone posted their chances of scoring HQ's (i think it was about Chief kabobs).

I hadn't heard about being able to steal cockatrice meat of the tigers in sauro, and the only place I've seen tigers in sauro is the area for the rng quest where there's maybe 4 tigers. I know I've stolen land crab meat from the tigers in batallia. I can't imagine the tigers to be too hard for a pair of 37's, but they are close and can link. At 53DRK, the axe beak's in meriphataude mountains are easy to farm, but too spread out to go fast. Tabar beaks in sauro are spread out just as bad, and harder...not quite easy to farm fast for me. I've seen higher level people in onzozo farming the cockatrices there, but thats way too much for me to solo, I think I saw a war and a rdm in all af tag-teaming them.

I synthed a stack of Navarin the other day and got 0.1 skill out of it. Had 3 failures I think. Can't make anymore yet because the insane amount of n00bs in yuhtunga have given elshimo lowlands to the beastmen on a silver platter, so I can't buy black pepper any where and all ah's are sold out ><. Tried gardening it, but my server has gone down and by the time I get back I think the plants will be dead....

Originally posted by AzzHauler
I hadn't heard about being able to steal cockatrice meat of the tigers in sauro, and the only place I've seen tigers in sauro is the area for the rng quest where there's maybe 4 tigers. I know I've stolen land crab meat from the tigers in batallia. I can't imagine the tigers to be too hard for a pair of 37's, but they are close and can link. At 53DRK, the axe beak's in meriphataude mountains are easy to farm, but too spread out to go fast. Tabar beaks in sauro are spread out just as bad, and harder...not quite easy to farm fast for me. I've seen higher level people in onzozo farming the cockatrices there, but thats way too much for me to solo, I think I saw a war and a rdm in all af tag-teaming them.

I synthed a stack of Navarin the other day and got 0.1 skill out of it. Had 3 failures I think. Can't make anymore yet because the insane amount of n00bs in yuhtunga have given elshimo lowlands to the beastmen on a silver platter, so I can't buy black pepper any where and all ah's are sold out ><. Tried gardening it, but my server has gone down and by the time I get back I think the plants will be dead....

Thanks for the Info Azz, I'm thinking since we're going to farm those tigers, we might as well do the quest, but I heard hella people are camping there too ; ;. Oh well, I guess i'm gonna have to cough up 13k-15k for stacks, hopefully they sell fast.

We seem to have the same problem in Garuda too about having Elshimo being Beastie controlled, Yutunga is beginning to look like Qufim where everyone is giving it to the Beastmen (in Garuda server, Qufim seems to be always beast controlled ; ; ).

Ikari

Been a while since we had a post ~^. Used all the pepper I had and made it to 74 on Navarin. The stuff sells pretty well, just a pita to get the materials and it takes a lot of inv space. Took a whack at pamama au lait, 9 levels under cap. Not too terribly bad failure rate, and the profit on sales paid for any losses. Just another inv pig so that's slowing me down. 76 and chugging along. Looks potentially pricey after 83.

Well ive taken about a month off leveling cooking. The semester ended and I decided to take the abundance of time i had to level my character and pick up some ranks. But now ive hit 50 and am desperately looking for ways to procrastinate doing genkai 1.

So i found myself at lv72. I wanted to try Blackened Newt because there are so few ingredients for it, but this is completely unfeasible, as Elshimo newts are impossible to come by in the volume you need for leveling. Under purrrrfect's sugestion i took a look at Navarin, but i don't like that either, because of the royal pain in the rear it is to level on something that has 8 different ingredients. I liked the choco milk suggestion better because at least 4 of the ingredients are the same.

well choco milk is expensive as hell(prices approximated due to market fluxuation):

Fire crystal: 150
kukuru beanx4: 600
maple sugar:50
milk:60
water:10
honey:150

total:1020

thats per synth. It does not sell well as has been mentioned, and the npc buy price is 270. That is a loss of 750gil per synth.

but,

After some web research i was pleasantly surprised to discover that kukuru beans are as inexpensive and as fast a grow as you will find.

earth pot + grain seed + ice crystal = 15-20 kukuru beans

The grow takes 3 days, and on my first try out of 3 pots i got 4 stacks of kukuru beans on the money. Grain seeds are 100 gil each. Ice crystals are 100 gil each. So thats 48 kukuru beans for 600 gil, or approx 13 gil per bean.

I don't know about you guys, but it seems like nearly every other synth i do i need honey, and i am so sick of going to buy honey and finding that the cheapest i can get it at is 2000gil a stack. Well as we all know from mystery tour you can synth honey from beehive chips and it is lv12 synth, but i had ruled this out as an option because beehive chips are significantly more expensive than honey. I mean thats like a medevil backasswards alchemist trying to turn platnum into gold.

Well i was farming in rollenberry when i pulled a linked wasp off of a low level. After killing it the wasp dropped 1 honey and 1 beehive chip, and at that moment its like this big halogin light bulb went off in my head. I never even had considered farming for honey past lv10, I mean why waste my time when in lv50 when there is much more profitable things to farm, but in fifteen minutes i had about 5 honeys and 4 beehive chips. I went to my MH grabbed a leftover wind crystal and got HQ2 synth of 9 honeys. The reason I think this is a viable option for getting honey, is because the farming spot is just outside jeuno and you can farm lfg, and not have to waste CP on a warp scroll. For me that is a nice convienience.

So with my new material acquisition method choco milk now costs:

fire crystal: 150
kukuru beanx4:50
maple sugar:50
milk:60
water:10
honey:10

total: 330
npc price:270

loss per synth: 60 gil

which to me is worth not having to sell stuff over the AH.

Oh yeah I didn't mention that part. Farm the honey in Giddeus. Take your /thf, buy some field gear & sickles at the catalyst shop in winwaters, and head on out. You'll get all the honey you'll need. You also get a mountain of the chips, which I had initially tried synthing also, but the value of the honey results was not more than the chips+crystals, so I sell the crystals. On Cerberus they go up to 500 more per stack in bastok. In Giddeus, you run around terrorizing the bees, and tabbing around looking for harvesting spots. Now a lot of harvest items are not worth very much, but there are also quite a few valuable ones. Mugwort is the top dog there 6k each on cerberus, not a fast seller, but not a fast harvest either. I'm waiting for my stack to sell... Other notables to keep are saruta cotton, wijnruit, flax flower. Anything bees drop is good to keep, except insect wings. I generally average ~20-30k of materials a trip, usually 1.5-2 hours I guess. Like everything else, competition can hurt your $/hr rate.

With me slacking off for a few synths in between and trying to haul my butt to 41, after I finally getting 41, I decided to go back and level my cooking. And I finally made it to 38.5 LOL. I am happy in making mithkabobs now and can't wait to get higher. Thanks to this guide :biggrin: and everyone that has contributed towards it.

Ikari

i'v been camping qull the shell buster for about 3 hours and iv got so many elshimo newt...i think if u get ur stuff go there and farm a lil it should be below you're cost..

and how about making orange kuchen ? they sell well on bahamut i dont know about other servers...iv seen a high lv jp making crap load of em to lv i guess..and ingridents are not hard either..

.2 cents

Hmm im at lvl 55 cooking now ( go me~) anyways i was wondering before i started cooking again was should i start making stone cheese at lvl 55? or is that a bit of a stretch? also to save.... maybe earn money, does anyone know a location of a dark element spawn in beacdine glacier or xarcabard? ive been lookin all over the place and havent found a single element yet, also while passing through rangumont pass i noticed dark element weather in there but i cant confirm if theres an actuall element there because i always forget to bring my rng sub instead of my normal thf sub for farming.. thanks =)

Originally posted by Clifford
Hmm im at lvl 55 cooking now ( go me~) anyways i was wondering before i started cooking again was should i start making stone cheese at lvl 55? or is that a bit of a stretch? also to save.... maybe earn money, does anyone know a location of a dark element spawn in beacdine glacier or xarcabard? ive been lookin all over the place and havent found a single element yet, also while passing through rangumont pass i noticed dark element weather in there but i cant confirm if theres an actuall element there because i always forget to bring my rng sub instead of my normal thf sub for farming.. thanks =)

I'm not sure about dark elementals, evertime i have been through rangumont it has been double ice, but i did get several stacks of dark crystals leveling off of antica in quicksand caves. At 53 you might be 1 or 2 levels too high for them though. Wish i could be more help ; ;

Originally posted by Clifford
Hmm im at lvl 55 cooking now ( go me~) anyways i was wondering before i started cooking again was should i start making stone cheese at lvl 55? or is that a bit of a stretch

I started stone cheese at 55 I believe, skilled well, but doesn't sell at all as far as I could tell. Selling to npc resulted in a loss. I had a post about it a page or 2 back. I'd say either do yagudo drink(slow leveling, no loss) or stone cheese(fast leveling, money loss).

Originally posted by AzzHauler


I started stone cheese at 55 I believe, skilled well, but doesn't sell at all as far as I could tell. Selling to npc resulted in a loss. I had a post about it a page or 2 back. I'd say either do yagudo drink(slow leveling, no loss) or stone cheese(fast leveling, money loss).

With high fame you should break even on stone cheese. The synth costs about 300 and the cheese sells for about 70, but what alot of people forget is that each synth gives you 4 cheeses so you sell the full synth back to npcs for 280. losing 20 gil per synth is really not that bad. There were some posts about it on page 6 of this thread.

3rd straight time in a row Elshimo Lowlands in Beastman control ><

Lord almighty do i hate going all the way to khazam for my pamamas.

Well if i can find where a dark element spawns you can actually make money >_< and level fast, but i still cant find one

Interesting concept about stealing meat off the tigers, both in Batallia and in Sauromugue Champaign.

But question: What is it like stealing land crab meat or cockatrice meat off the tigers?

The way I see it, you can only steal once every 5 minutes. There is 60 minutes in an hour, so in essence you can only farm like 12 pieces, which would be 1 stack exactly. What is the stealing rate off tigers in Batt & Saur like? Is it hard? Does one miss quite often?

I've noticed, (however, my thief is only lvl 32), that when the thief gets the hide skill at later levels (can't remember which), he can basically steal or mug a monster then go hide and the monster drops aggro off the thief. If a person was to get their stealing up pretty high or something with equipment and of a sufficient level (something high enough to have hide and mug hehe), you could do some nice little farming of cockatrice meat and land crab meat off the tigers. However, I'm not sure if hiding would really drop the aggro off a monster that cons easy prey or above to you. Can anyone confirm this?

Thus, you can basically make money off farming Land Crab Meat or Cockatrice meat from the Tigers and come out a winner. :)

If anyone can confirm my suspicions on the stealing rate (whether its really good and you can be assured to get good returns, either being a high level or using steal+ equip), then I think some of us have it made :D.

Originally posted by SonikU4ia
Interesting concept about stealing meat off the tigers, both in Batallia and in Sauromugue Champaign.

But question: What is it like stealing land crab meat or cockatrice meat off the tigers?

The way I see it, you can only steal once every 5 minutes. There is 60 minutes in an hour, so in essence you can only farm like 12 pieces, which would be 1 stack exactly. What is the stealing rate off tigers in Batt & Saur like? Is it hard? Does one miss quite often?

I've noticed, (however, my thief is only lvl 32), that when the thief gets the hide skill at later levels (can't remember which), he can basically steal or mug a monster then go hide and the monster drops aggro off the thief. If a person was to get their stealing up pretty high or something with equipment and of a sufficient level (something high enough to have hide and mug hehe), you could do some nice little farming of cockatrice meat and land crab meat off the tigers. However, I'm not sure if hiding would really drop the aggro off a monster that cons easy prey or above to you. Can anyone confirm this?

Thus, you can basically make money off farming Land Crab Meat or Cockatrice meat from the Tigers and come out a winner. :)

If anyone can confirm my suspicions on the stealing rate (whether its really good and you can be assured to get good returns, either being a high level or using steal+ equip), then I think some of us have it made :D.

Yes, I'm pretty sure you can do this once you get your THF up but it is a complete waste of time. If you are going to get your THF up, just go to oztroja with your AF and JSE ring and a rabbit charm and steal a gold beastcoin every 5 minutes, then hide to shake the hate.

stealing 1 stack of cockatrice meat in 1 hour

is less than

stealing 1 stack of gold beastcoins in 1 hour, selling it for 90k, and buying 4 stacks of cockatrice meat, and having 10k leftover.

Is using the Roasted Corn synth for the first early levels a better idea? I heard its easier and costs less.

1x Fire Crystal
1x Millocorn


Can anyone tell me if this is good and what level to stop at? I'm 1 cooking.. Heh ^^ Trying to get started.

follow the guide riv, thats what alot of us have done and it worked well, i belive corn stops about 3-5ish,

also about stealing from bata tigers, while i've never tried it, u could also farm them for fangs for sandorai fame at the same time, i usually do it while waiting for pt's, or before linkshelle vents, i'm sure we've all had those times. an hour till an event, but not enough time to start anything really productive. also stuff in bata will take weaponskills to about 100 if your bored

Originally posted by Zafron


Yes, I'm pretty sure you can do this once you get your THF up but it is a complete waste of time. If you are going to get your THF up, just go to oztroja with your AF and JSE ring and a rabbit charm and steal a gold beastcoin every 5 minutes, then hide to shake the hate.

stealing 1 stack of cockatrice meat in 1 hour

is less than

stealing 1 stack of gold beastcoins in 1 hour, selling it for 90k, and buying 4 stacks of cockatrice meat, and having 10k leftover.

Zafron, I think you are wonderful.

Thank you for the education. :D! I am going to go level THF right now.

Excellent tip!

Just got up to 73 cooking this last weekend, and have been trying Chocomilk for skillups - I believe their cap is around 79.

Anyone have any other viable suggestions? These don't stack, don't sell as often as I would like, and UGH I'll end up with hundreds at the rate my skillups are going ><

im at 68 atm

ive heard a good path was pear au lait to 72, then orange kuchen till 80. from the looks of materials for orange kuchen, it doesnt look too expensive. anyways, at lv80-95 you'll be making all your lost money back. Pumpkin pies + rolanberry pies + tonosama's, need i say more??!!

either way, imo, if u run low on gil, u could just keep above 50k, buy 2 stacks of everything for meats, syn em, im sure your get several HQ's at 70+.

im not rly worried about how much gil i spend, cuz u'll all get it back, by HQ'd food or pies or w/e.

Originally posted by Deedlit
Just got up to 73 cooking this last weekend, and have been trying Chocomilk for skillups - I believe their cap is around 79.

Anyone have any other viable suggestions? These don't stack, don't sell as often as I would like, and UGH I'll end up with hundreds at the rate my skillups are going ><

Originally posted by D0om
ive heard a good path was pear au lait to 72, then orange kuchen till 80. from the looks of materials for orange kuchen, it doesnt look too expensive. anyways, at lv80-95 you'll be making all your lost money back. Pumpkin pies + rolanberry pies + tonosama's, need i say more??!!

Pamama au lait you two. Start when your cooking is 74. Every sucessfull synth sells for 300% profit, and it sells fast.

can u do pamama au lait at 71.4? i cant find anything to skill-up on, everything costs like 10x what it sells for ><

i tried the oranger kuchen, but i fail 75% of the time...

i guess ill try the pamama now lol

oops 2x post ><

Originally posted by Zafron

Pamama au lait you two. Start when your cooking is 74. Every sucessfull synth sells for 300% profit, and it sells fast.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll give it a try tonight. Anyone know offhand what it caps at?

83, i used chocomilk to get to roughly 73.8 or so, im gunna give the pamama au lait a try too, but i did spend ~70k on choco milk, yuck!! ><

I thought the cap for pamama au lait was 83 as well, but i am fairly certain it is 81 now. Once i hit 81, I did 26 consecutive synths with no skill up.

yesterday was full moon firesday and took a shot at chiefkabobs again. My last attempt was at cooking 68 this one was at cooking 80 and here are my results.

12 synths:

7 regular
4 HQ1
1 HQ3

so thats 7 stacks of mithkabobs and 3 stacks of chiefkabobs.

What's the formula for HQ synths anyway?? HQ1 to 3. Just wondering.

Ikari

This is a wonderful listing. ^^ I found it extremely helpful when I decided to (finally!) pick up cooking yesterday. (level 10 already. ^^ V)

The one thing I would comment on is that, with advanced image support, you can take Orange Juice from level 3 clear to level 10. You only need to buy the support from levels 3 to about.. 6.5/7. there were a few more failures than I would have liked, but it's better than making pebble soup, and you can just plant yourself in the guild for a couple hours. ^^

Thanks again for the help! :D

Originally posted by Llowyn
you can take Orange Juice from level 3 clear to level 10.

This is true, however you lose money sticking with orange juice. Xephoid recommends switching to Sliced Sardines asap because you can sell them for a nice profit whereas orange juice is a flat out loss. Both items take you from 6 to 10, but the question is would you rather gain gil from these levels or lose gil. At your level(character level) obviously the loss is negligible, and the time saved from sticking with orange juice might be worth more to you than the gil lost, but for low level players this might not be the case. So for them the best option will be to get off orange juice as soon as possible.

HQ mithkabob synths:

HQ1 6 chiefkabobs
HQ2 9 chiefkabobs
HQ3 12 chiefkabobs

Originally posted by JP_Ikari
What's the formula for HQ synths anyway?? HQ1 to 3. Just wondering.

Ikari

u use same formula as regular syn's, but getting HQ1 to 3 depends on moon phase/day/skill lvl

Great thread but for God's sakes, edit it to be Congratulations lol.

Originally posted by D0oM
u use same formula as regular syn's, but getting HQ1 to 3 depends on moon phase/day/skill lvl

Cool thanks D0oM, i'm at 46 and about to actually be done making Apple Pies without image support, but I wanna make fish kabobs hehe for more defense for me :D.

Ikari

thanks alot for the tips i needed a way to make gil and i making alot now and one thing to help stop the slowing down on things when some people are at high lvls they should just do the most profitable thing at lower lvls and there hindding is lessened and more money is made. I belive that would work because if u do low lvl stuff your skill wont lvl up. Just a thought i should bring up and its my opinin. sry if i spelled that wrong and if it doesnt work could u plz tell me back so i dont do the same mistake! lol

:p

Just a little tid bit. I know mysterytour and alla both say pamama au lait goes to 83, but I hit 81 and didn't get a skill up at all for like 25+ synths. Might have just been bad luck, might be capped at 81...I don't know. Switched up to pumpkin pies and got .5 skill in a stack of ingredients w/ 0 fails (gotta love lightday^^). Anyone have any idea what sells well post-85? I often see rolanberry pies in bazaars, and just the other day saw a person loaded with persikos au lait. Dunno if they sell though ; ;.

pamama capped for me at 81 as well. I don't understand the apeal of rolandberry pies for mages, but they sell well enough. I'm going to try periskos though once i get done with pumpkin. Only having to gather 4 ingredients easily makes up for the fact that it doesn't stack imo.

And does anyone know the cooking skill level of Red Curry? Not that i can afford Dragon meat or anything but i would like to know.

Heh, I don't get the appeal of Rolanberry Pies over Pumpkin Pies, either - the Rolanberry pies don't stack, and they're not THAT much better than the Pumpkin ones.

BTW, what are the HQ2 and HQ3 results on Apple Pies? Is it just 6 and 8 Apple Pie +1s, or are there actual Apple Pie +2/+3s out there? :)

Mysterytour only lists HQ1 for apple pies, so I'd assume there is a single HQ possibility.

I only have 1 Question? About how much money did you need or in fact any one here need to get to the levels that you are all in? I am currently lvl 3 in cooking but haven't really put all my time into it (have mostly been fishing). Please let me know so that I may save up enough to start back up with my cooking.

Thanks, "Daballer" Quatzelcoatl Server :cool: :thumbsup:

Thank you, very good guide.

I was following this last night from 7 to 13 in no time.

Strange thing though. I was doing Sliced Sardines but at 10 I gave up on them and moved to Sliced Cod at 10. Mainly because I figured I should try for the higher skill item since I was breaking so many crystals and losing sardines.

Here the strange part kicks in. Not one broken crystal or failed synth on the Sliced Cod. I skilled super fast on it, from 10 to 13 in no time. 1 stack of wind & cod was 1 skill point. This was all within the same Vana day that I gave up on Sardines due to failures.

Also Sliced Cod was nice, sells on AH for 900 a stack (very slow), sells to Guild for 768 (64each), and at fame 3 sold to NPC for 624 (52each) a stack.

3.1-6 Orange Juice. Water Crystal + 4x Sautura orange. Oranges are cheapest at vendor near northern exit in Win Water. Money loser. But since the material is cheap, just cope with it.


yeah this f*cking sucks. I'm doing this now and all i get is fail, fail, fail, fail, fail, fail WITH image support. Only got .2 skillups now. Yeah, you screwd up there bud this part sucks.

There is nothing wrong with this guide !!!!! I have used it and now I am at lvl 30 in cooking it is a GREAT GUIDE in my opinion !!! Don't know what anyone else is doing wrong for it not to work.


Peace,



Daballer ---- Quatz

I got to 47 with this guide guys, so just stick with it if you are actually going with this craft, it's the truth. Also I didn't start making OJ's til I got to 6, where I don't gain the level's anymore hehe.

Ikari

Well ive capped at tonosama rice balls and i think that is as far as i am taking cooking. I might do Sweet rice cakes after i get haubergeon and ametit+1, but probably not. Fresh mugwarts are rediculous.

In hindsight cooking is not the moneymaker i thought it would be. I knew it wouldn't be nearly as good as other crafts but it is even less profitable than i had hoped. No doubt this is due to the high volume of high level cooks on my server. By diversifying your sales you can do ok, but doing diverse synthing can take hours, because of the insane amounts of ingredients you have to gather for the different items. Even with gobbie bag IV, and 70 inv spaces as well as a mule in all 4 nations it is a real hassle. Other lv60 Freinds in my LS can farm gil about as fast as i can make it from cooking sales.

But dont' get me wrong i am glad i took cooking almost all the way. I get more use out of it for myself and my LS then i would get out of any other craft i think. It is very convienient to be able to consistantly make myself chiefkabobs, and the occasional red curry when i want to go all out so i have no regrets.

Given the relative ease with wich you can level cooking i'd say it is the perfect craft for people who want a craft but don't want to spend alot of time leveling it.

Here is the route i took after 55:

Stone cheese 55-61
colored egg 61-66
SanD tea 66-69
pear au lait 69-72

With no failures and high fame you will break even on stone cheese. Colored eggs and SanD tea is a big loss unless you grow your own ingredients and then it is still a loss. I recomend starting pear au lait at 65. Thats what i would have done except it wasn't in the game until i was already a 69 cook. Pear au lait is super and you will make money leveling off it.

choco milk 72-74
pamama au lait 74-81

Choco milk is a pain but you can come close to breaking even on it if you do it right. I have a big post about it on pg9 of this thread. After choco milk you will be making money on all your synthing right up until you decide not to level anymore. Pamama au lait is a money maker, has few ingredients, and sells fast. Only thing that would make it more perfect is if it stacked.

pumpkin pie 81-85

Pumpkin pie is another nice money maker so long as you gather the ingredients properly(buy ingredients from npcs not AH). At 5k per stack i was almost sad when i capped it.

rolanberry pie/persikos au lait 85-90

Rolanberry pies and persikos au lait will both make you money. As to wich on is better it is a matter of personal preferance. After trying both i like rolanberry pies, because there are a few things about persikos i don't like. For one you can only get persikos from failed attemps at growing dark elemental ore using tree saplings and dark crystals. This grow takes 3-4 weeks. Basically this means that you have to buy them off AH and even then the availiblility is limited. On top of this persikos au lait is a much more expensive synth than rolanberry pies so failures are alot more costly. Also i noticed that rolanberry pies seem to sell a touch faster for me. So my recomendation is rolanberry pies.

Flint caviar/tonosama rice balls 90-94

Probably the most profitable synth ive done that isnt HQ and extremely convenient. I went from 90 to 94 in a single day. For starters Flint caviar is a lv92 synth, tonosamas are a level 94 synth. But what is so nice is that flint caviar is actually the most difficult ingredient to come by for tonosamas. So while you are leveling your craft synthing cavier you are at the same time stocking yourself with the most expensive ingredient for tonosamas. To do this synth you have to start with an emperor fish and split it into 4 emperor roes with a lighting crystal. Then synth flint cavier using a dark crystal, emperor roe and rock salt to get 3 flint caviers for each roe. Then each flint cavier is good for 2 tonosama rice balls. So even though emperor fish are so expensive 1 fish will yield 2 stacks of tonosamas. The rest of the ingredients for tonosamas are super cheap.

So good luck to all future veteran cooks. I hope you can get as much use out of it as i have been able too. ^^

Seeing this thread makes me wanna try the cooking thing now. It could probably help with my fishing if I skill up enough to make the bait. Thanks!

Just my two cents:

As suggested, I've been doing Pear Au Lait from 65, and have just hit 70.

Although it does sell at the AH, it sells very, very, very slowly. Finally, I couldn't stand having all my AH spaces perpetually clogged, I started selling them off to NPCs at a loss.

One of my friends said when he got to 10 cooking, he just kept making Bug Broth, recipe = water crystal, lugwormx2 and shellbugx2. he said after 50 stacks of bug broth he had made 40k profit by selling back to merchant.

Hey guys, I got to 50 the other night and wondering, how much money will it cost me (or do I need) to get from 50-94 (for Tonosama Balls)?? And what route should I take?? I see Zanfron's helps once i get to 55, but before that?? I am currently doing Crayfish balls to get to 52 as Xeph mentioned, but after that I dunno, what's the most cost efficient from 52 onwards???

Ikari

P.S. Loss or money maker, either way I wanna know which one is the best, since I wanna get to 94 :D

Originally posted by JP_Ikari
Hey guys, I got to 50 the other night and wondering, how much money will it cost me (or do I need) to get from 50-94 (for Tonosama Balls)?? And what route should I take?? I see Zanfron's helps once i get to 55, but before that?? I am currently doing Crayfish balls to get to 52 as Xeph mentioned, but after that I dunno, what's the most cost efficient from 52 onwards???

Ikari

P.S. Loss or money maker, either way I wanna know which one is the best, since I wanna get to 94 :D

52-55 make beaugreen sautee, according to Belot who put together an awesome cooking guide. from 55-60 make stone cheese for a profit of 72 gil a stack by selling to merchant.

Originally posted by knox
52-55 make beaugreen sautee, according to Belot who put together an awesome cooking guide. from 55-60 make stone cheese for a profit of 72 gil a stack by selling to merchant.

Thanks a bunch knox. Much appreciated.

Ikari

well im approaching the pumpkin pie cap (84?85?)

and wondering what is good to craft for a level or 2 or if i could go straight to rolanberry pies for a few lvls

any veteran chef's out there wanna give an adept some help? lol

Go straight for Rolanberry Pies when you've reached 85.

when i hit 81 i stopped with pamama au lait...then i started doing maron glace...that was really easy stuff..i dont break much

ingridents are

1 dark crystal
1 grape juice
2 chestnuts
1 maple sugar...

i would recommend doing this in sandoria...go to the shop that gets the stuff from ronfaure...and there's the grape to make the grape juice and chestnuts...
go up to the other store to find the maple sugar...
and u have the AH right next to you to get the crystals..
thats no down time running around windurst waiting for guild to open and that crap...
anyways that will take you up to 86 with really nice skill raise..

now i think i will go on rolanberry pies....its gonna give me a hassle i need to clear up space ; ;

good luck everyone ill give u another update once i lvl more...

im goin all out on this hehe

ok another update...

iv made rolanberry pies all the way until 87...then i started working on flint caviar...that will take u up to 92 but i think if u stop at 90...then u get to make tonosama rice balls to 94...

right now im at 94....i think i will work on rice dumplings...
i have to level my wood work first though ... that needs a skill of 10 in woodworking i think..

Originally posted by Royze
when i hit 81 i stopped with pamama au lait...then i started doing maron glace...that was really easy stuff..i dont break much

ingridents are

1 dark crystal
1 grape juice
2 chestnuts
1 maple sugar...

i would recommend doing this in sandoria...go to the shop that gets the stuff from ronfaure...and there's the grape to make the grape juice and chestnuts...
go up to the other store to find the maple sugar...
and u have the AH right next to you to get the crystals..
thats no down time running around windurst waiting for guild to open and that crap...
anyways that will take you up to 86 with really nice skill raise..

now i think i will go on rolanberry pies....its gonna give me a hassle i need to clear up space ; ;

good luck everyone ill give u another update once i lvl more...

im goin all out on this hehe

was this stuff a huge gil loss? did u sell back to AH or back to NPC?

3rd week in a row where i havent been able to get orge pumpkins due to no1 owning elshimo lowlands

Originally posted by D0oM
was this stuff a huge gil loss? did u sell back to AH or back to NPC?

3rd week in a row where i havent been able to get orge pumpkins due to no1 owning elshimo lowlands

i lost alot cause it never sell, and i soold back to the npc cause i had to rush through lvl..they dont stack thats a pain,,

best of luck

81=start making pumpkin pies to 85. Then you can make Rolanberry pies to 90 if you chose, but they sell kinda slow and don't stack. I'd recommend flint caviar to 90-91, then start tono riceballs to 94. You'll probably have a lot of caviar left over, but it sells fair on ah ~10k stack.

ok so i finally got to the 90s about to finish the tonosama rice balls.

sweet rice cake best next? looks kinda crappy though, 2 of the stuff doesnt stack and the 1 stuff is only gotten from norg O_o

Not to mention mugwort is ~4-6k each.

im on sweet rice cakes right now, and they are quite a pain, first off it takes me about 5 days of AH camping to get 3 stacks of mugwort, then i go off to craft, frist buy the maple sugar from vendor, distilled water from bard store in jeuno, in to the tenshodo shop to buy 40 sticky rice, which dont stack >.> airship to kazham, buy cinnamon from npc in kazam, then run to norg buy the gardina seeds, which also dont stack <.< and craft there in norg. You will need lots of moghouse space and probably gobbiebag V to do this with any kind of efficientcy.

the main problem for me, is the lack of mugwort on the ah's, i think we have mabey 3 pep who actualy harvest on the whole server ; ;


99-100 will be the worst, need to farm the ex royal jelly off bees in crawlers nest, which also dont stack iirc ; ;

Here's a question, do you guys know where I can look for an updated list of how many we get per synth on the MIth and Fishmith kabobs. Since i've been seeing a lot of 6's per synth on every Mithkabob that was synthesized in front of me, I was wondering if Fishmith was also limited to this change.

JP

NQ-6 Mithkabobs
HQ1-12 Mithkabobs
HQ2-6 Chiefkabobs
HQ3-12 Chiefkabobs

I'm back and I made my own way to 53.7 I owe a small thanks to the creator of this thread and I look forward to march on Cooking! :D /salute

I'm level 84 and rising fast, I will have made 500k from levelling from 78 to 85 on yellow curries alone (on diabolos), which took me about two weeks. I will make rolanberry pies till 90, then at 90 I'll make flint caviar and rice balls simultaneously in equal quantities, I think 1 synth caviar will make enough ingredients for 2 riceballs right? So going with that I should have the right amount.

What do I do after Yagudo/Stone Cheese at 61? I'm already at 59.5 getting ready to stop using Yag's and moving to Cheese for a level.

Oops Double Post Sorry. ><

What do I do after Yagudo/Stone Cheese at 61? I'm already at 59.5 getting ready to stop using Yag's and moving to Cheese for a level.

The best thing I found for those levels was raisin bread (sell to npc) although there may be something better.

made a new mini guide with the new item

if you cant do the rice cakes cause the lack of items on ur server go with

Tavanzian tacos (97) and after that you're best bet is to do cursed soups

need help

at 55 right now

need to know an updated version and the easiest path